Rhodey's new armor

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I for one feel it was about high time he got a new, sleeker, more powerful suit. In issue 3 of Iron Man 2.0 it's finally happened. So, what do y'all think of the new digs?

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#1  Edited By Woodclaw

Personally I don't llike this new armor too much. I know that a change of armor doesn't mean a radical change of the character within (and Jim Rhodes is easily my favouritee Marvel character), but I think that the old armors with the shoulder weapons etc. were more distinct and unique to the character. This one one looks a simple palette swap of Tony Stark.

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#2  Edited By FadeToBlackBolt
@Soldier zero said:
" Personally I don't llike this new armor too much. I know that a change of armor doesn't mean a radical change of the character within (and Jim Rhodes is easily my favouritee Marvel character), but I think that the old armors with the shoulder weapons etc. were more distinct and unique to the character. This one one looks a simple palette swap of Tony Stark. "
Well said; I agree completely.

Now he looks just like what the ignorant would call his character; a Black Iron Man.
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#3  Edited By JonesDeini
@FadeToBlackBolt: 
I see your argument but I disagree. I think this armor is distinct enough not to be confused with Tony's. I also like the functions on this armor more than the former one. I concede that the shoulder mounted weapons served to further differentiate it and I wish this armor had a more instantly recognizable feature like that. Tony's armor is sleeker and looks more organic. Rhodey's new armor still looks like an armor suit and like it has a heavier feel and more heft to it despite being trimmed down. I'm sure casual readers or people who don't know the character will write him off as the black Iron Man, but when haven't they? I can't wait to see how he implements the ghost tech into his missions. 
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#4  Edited By Green Skin

Lame!  War Machine isn't suppose to look sleek, he's suppose to look like he can take on tank battalions and blow sh1t all to hell.!  Unless he's sporting some kind of heavy ordinance, it's just not a true War Machine armor.

Soldier zero got it right, this looks like a palette swap of the Iron Man armor.

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#5  Edited By JonesDeini
@Green Skin: 
Fair enough, I'll concede the good ol' "America, FUCK YEAH!!!" flying tank, intimidation factor is missing from this armor. But it's a new era and war has evolved so too must the machines of warfare. I like the look of the armor, but what I really want to see is how it's going to be put to use in the field. When it comes to costume changes, especially things like armor I'm a function over form kind of guy. I think more than any the features, tech and potential applications of this suit have intrigued me. 
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#6  Edited By Green Skin
@JonesDeini:      I'm normally a form over function kind of guy as well, but with Rhodey it's different.   I think he needs a little more than just different colors to distinguish him from Stark.  Hopefully seeing this suit in action will show otherwise, but it looks like it'll operate just like Stark's suit.  It looks like it's got guns that pop out of compartments, so hopefully there are some good weapon systems streamlined into it.   I just really hope he has more extensive weapon systems than Stark's armor, otherwise what's the point. 
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#7  Edited By Emperormeister734
@Soldier zero:  Hey this is a brand new start with Rhodey, I welcome this armor,but I will miss the soldier weapons
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#8  Edited By FortressoftheMoon

Well if I am taking this right, Isn't Rhodey suppose to be basically the new iron man anyway?  So if that is the case, I think the armor looks just  fine without the shoulder weapons even though it does make him look more like that one robot from the Judge Dredd movie.
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#9  Edited By Woodclaw
@JonesDeini said:
" @Green Skin: 
Fair enough, I'll concede the good ol' "America, FUCK YEAH!!!" flying tank, intimidation factor is missing from this armor. But it's a new era and war has evolved so too must the machines of warfare. I like the look of the armor, but what I really want to see is how it's going to be put to use in the field. When it comes to costume changes, especially things like armor I'm a function over form kind of guy. I think more than any the features, tech and potential applications of this suit have intrigued me. 
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Usually when I explained the difference between Iron Man and War Machine to a non-comic fan I used to compare the armors to combat planes, to me IM looked something close to a F-22, very sleek, fast and manuvrable; while WM was closer to an A-10, sturdier, slower and armored to the teeth.
This new armor seem to blur the line a little too much for my tastes, but I've enough experience regarding comics to know that at least the benefit of the doubt must be allowed. As a general rule I prefer function over form any day of the week and this is what scares me, this suit looks a bit too sleek and stylish.

@FortressoftheMoon said:
" Well if I am taking this right, Isn't Rhodey suppose to be basically the new iron man anyway?  So if that is the case, I think the armor looks just  fine without the shoulder weapons even though it does make him look more like that one robot from the Judge Dredd movie. "
In my eyes, no he isn't the "new Iron Man" I prefer to consider him as a individual character.
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#10  Edited By PrinceIMC

I liked the Avengers Initiative armor. It looked like it was related to Iron Man's armor at the time but still looked like the War Machine

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#11  Edited By JonesDeini
@Soldier zero: 
I've always compared Tony to a jet and Rhodey to a tank. Now Rhodey's evolved into a stealth bomber. I think this armor is appropriate for these days and times and for the new challenges Rhodey will face. To combat modern terrorism and subterfuge a  new approach has had to be employed in the real world, why not in comics as well?

@Green Skin: 
I'm kind of an Iron Man armor geek and I assure that Tony's bleeding edge armor and Rhodey's new armor two entirely different beasts. For starters, the bleeding edge chameleon tech and ghost tech are in a beta stage and unique to Rhodey. Tony's also made Rhodey's suit undetectable by any method other than sight, hence him including the chameleon tech. Rhodey's suit has two settings, infiltration and combat. In combat mode it will make use of traditional munitions so I'm sure it has guns tucked away all over, as Tony hinted in 2.0 #3. Rhodey's new armor must alternate between these two modes and has a finite limit to how much he can use his infiltration features. Each requires a large amount of repulsor energy, and can only be used individually. Tony has no such limit due to his suit and RT hub embedded in his chest serving as a self sustaining perpetual energy source. Tony's armor is a alive and lives in his bones, he is the iron man armor, even more so than when he was using the Extremis armor. Tony's armor is about as thin as the first layer of skin, but ridiculously durable, it also has shape shifting capabilities and various other features we can only dream about. Seeing as Fraction's a dialog over action guy, we've yet to fully see what this armor's fully capable of. I'll say this. The unique relationship between Tony and this armor makes it one of the most powerful  human developed weapons in the Marvel U (it's so advanced that this tech is still used by Iron Lad's people far into the future) and completely unique and incapable of being replicated in this era.  
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#12  Edited By Metatron_Da_Don
@Soldier zero said:
" Personally I don't llike this new armor too much. I know that a change of armor doesn't mean a radical change of the character within (and Jim Rhodes is easily my favouritee Marvel character), but I think that the old armors with the shoulder weapons etc. were more distinct and unique to the character. This one one looks a simple palette swap of Tony Stark. "
I like it. He went from the brute armor to a stealth, use your brain, armor. To me the developed armor reflects a focus on further developing his character, and the writers are treating it that way. "Evolve or Die" right?
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#13  Edited By Doctor Damn
  
Looks lamer in the actual book.
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#14  Edited By Shadowdoggy

doesn't look very War Machiney
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#15  Edited By Kairan1979

I prefer old War Machine armors. This one looks like one of Iron Man's armors.

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#16  Edited By JonesDeini
@Metatron_Da_Don: 
Brains over brute strength any day for me, especially for black characters. 
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#17  Edited By John Valentine

NEEDS BIGGER GUNS.

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#18  Edited By JonesDeini
@John Valentine: 
Fair enough, but I think they're tucked away within the suit right now...I want to see the suit in action both in a stealth and straight up fire fight scenario. Hopefully we'll see what it has going on in this week's issue. 
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#19  Edited By darkcloakx

i think war machine's ultimate armor looks badass.

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#20  Edited By JonesDeini
@darkcloakx said:
" i think war machine's ultimate armor looks badass.

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Armor? That my friend is a frakin' Gundam unit lol
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#21  Edited By darkcloakx

really? lol.

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#22  Edited By JonesDeini
@darkcloakx: 
Word, bro. Just look at him on that cover. 

He's not too far removed from this...
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#23  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

I like where they are taking this, I mean there is more than one way to go to war right? and it makes sense with him having this type of armor when he is on the secret avengers team however I dont like how its drawn they could do a better job of that

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#24  Edited By JonesDeini
@spiderbat87 said:
" I like where they are taking this, I mean there is more than one way to go to war right? and it makes sense with him having this type of armor when he is on the secret avengers team however I dont like how its drawn they could do a better job of that "
Agree, I like the overall design but agree it could be a bit more visually distinct from Tony's. Spec wise they're night and day, but hey, you can see specs in a pic lol
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#25  Edited By TDK_1997

I like his new armor way much

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#26  Edited By Osiris1428

Who is the guy with all the gold chains? And do these comic creator even know any black people personally?

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#27  Edited By JonesDeini
@Osiris1428 said:
Who is the guy with all the gold chains? And do these comic creator even know any black people personally?
That's New Hulk or some bujou like that, folk. And I'm sure they all have that "Black Friend" lol

@TDK_1997 said:
I like his new armor way much
I hope the upcoming Fear Itself tie in issue shows us just what this armor can do. Cuz Rhodey didn't get any action in Secret Avengers 11.5
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#28  Edited By lennyoks

Its no good  as war machine armor(i expect big guns there) but this isn't  a war machine armor this is Iron Man 2.0 as long as they don't call it war machine i actually like it

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#29  Edited By Namor1987

I like it. The new upgrades kick ass. I want to see this 2.0 armor take on the Bleeding Edge armor
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#30  Edited By JonesDeini
@Namor1987 said:
I like it. The new upgrades kick ass. I want to see this 2.0 armor take on the Bleeding Edge armor
I actually stopped reading 2.0 because Fear Itself basically ruined the book for me. So I haven't gotten to see it in action. 
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#31  Edited By frozenedge2

I don't think its the right type of armor for a guy named War Machine. I liked his old armor that was just bristling with weapons because that what he was, a walking arsenal of weapons. But it was time he got a new armor upgrade, i just think this one is too sleeked down for War Machine.

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#32  Edited By CATPANEXE

I liked him under Greg Pak best so far personally, particularly how his tech worked, interfaced, transformed ect.
i think it was too soon for a new armor " look " for him, as well as for Rescue for that matter, and was just promotional
towards Iron Mans redesign that ran with the release of Iron Man 2. Then again it seems recent Rhodey books have
problems staying afloat, so if this helps I'm behind it. I like the story's so far in Iron Man 2.0 despite it, and the arts good
enough to carry it, I'll say that much.

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#33  Edited By JonesDeini
@CATPANEXE said:
I liked him under Greg Pak best so far personally, particularly how his tech worked, interfaced, transformed ect. i think it was too soon for a new armor " look " for him, as well as for Rescue for that matter, and was just promotional towards Iron Mans redesign that ran with the release of Iron Man 2. Then again it seems recent Rhodey books have problems staying afloat, so if this helps I'm behind it. I like the story's so far in Iron Man 2.0 despite it, and the arts good enough to carry it, I'll say that much.
I may pick it up after all this Fear Itself BS ends, but as of now I'm done with this book. Which I hate to say because I absolutely LOVE Nick Spencer, but this title's lost it's focus. The last issue dealing with Palmer Addley was pointless and one of the worst things I've read all year, and the Fear Itself issues felt totally needless to me. 
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#34  Edited By Zachattack1239

I miss the old variable response battle suit. I understand that all the characters in marvel are evolving so i dont mind the upgrade, i just wish they kept some of the things that made war machine distinct. Where is the mini gun at? I feel as if it lost the heavy firepower look, Rhodey is bad ass and his armor went from freaking bad ass to hey, my armor looks alot like tony's armor

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#35  Edited By JonesDeini
@Zachattack1239 said:
I miss the old variable response battle suit. I understand that all the characters in marvel are evolving so i dont mind the upgrade, i just wish they kept some of the things that made war machine distinct. Where is the mini gun at? I feel as if it lost the heavy firepower look, Rhodey is bad ass and his armor went from freaking bad ass to hey, my armor looks alot like tony's armor
I totally see where you're coming from. But tanks aren't fighting wars anymore, hi tech CPUs are. So I get what Spencer was aiming for. It's certainly a change though. 
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#36  Edited By Zachattack1239
@JonesDeini: Maybe the new armor will grow on me, im still having trouble accepting the fact that the bleeding edge will stay for a while with tony
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#37  Edited By JonesDeini
@Zachattack1239:  
Really? Oh man do I LOVE the bleeding edge armor. I'm a armor/tech geek and that thing is a gear head's wet dream. Sooo many capabilities yet untapped with that armor. I hope it stays around for years too come. 
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#38  Edited By VanTesla

Give him nanite-liquid armor and let him have a sleek look and when in battle transform it into a beast version with plasma canons and ion grenades on his shoulders.
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#39  Edited By Sparky_Buzzsaw

While I'm all for an update on War Machine's look, this does seem to be a cash-in on the recent films' War Machine look. It doesn't look awful, mind you, but I do wish it was a bit more distinctive from the Iron Man suit.

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#40  Edited By Ono_Sendai

I have to say the refresh is a nice change of pace.  It may not be perfect, but making such a drastic change now gives the writers/artists more license to make more changes down the line.  War Machine's look was kind of static, he basically looked exactly the same as when I first started reading comics 20 years ago.  I think being able to change the armor will be a good thing in the long run, it will allow the character to grow more.  I'm sure it will change again and probably future versions will incorporate old elements.  Just look at how many permutations of Tony Stark's armor there have been.  Didn't he have cloaking and energy whips at one point?

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