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    Character » Wally West appears in 3141 issues.

    Struck by the same lightning bolt that turned his uncle Barry Allen into the Flash, Wallace Rudolph "Wally" West took the name Kid Flash, became Barry's sidekick, and joined the Teen Titans. Eventually, Wally became the Flash to honor his uncle's memory, who died saving the Universe. He also became a member of the Justice League. He married a woman named Linda Park and had two kids, Jai and Iris West II. Currently, Wally is active as the Flash.

    So is Wally West unbeatable?

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    #1  Edited By DeadpoolvIronFist

    I've heard a lot of people say this in the Battle Threads.....
    Is it true?

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    #2  Edited By Valtot

    no...

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    #3  Edited By Mercy_

    Not at all. 

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    #4  Edited By Donnieman v5.1

    No, but he's pretty damn powerful.

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    #5  Edited By iLLituracy

    Better question is why would you believe everything someone tells you in the Battles forum?

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    #6  Edited By DeadpoolvIronFist

    I've just seen people say that he could beat Superman, Wonder Woman, and Martian Manhunter all at once.

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    #7  Edited By DeadpoolvIronFist
    @iLLituracy: 
     
    I've just seen a lot of different people say this....so I was just wondering.
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    #8  Edited By nefarious

    Zoom can beat his butt. 

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    #9  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

    No, but he's extremely fast and pretty much anybody slower than him will lose.

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    #10  Edited By KZR
    @deadpoolvironfist: I'm not taking sides but my estimate is that he probably could.
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    #11  Edited By Primmaster64
    @JediXMan said:
    " No, but he's extremely fast and pretty much anybody slower than him will lose. "

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    #12  Edited By Band Lone

    Hes the fastest Flash but I doubt hes unbeatable

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    #13  Edited By Outside_85

    It's because of the general thought of 'blitz always wins' and the Flash's are practically the embodiments of that.  
    Wally however has an edge with the ability that he can take speed away from other speedsters.
     
    But he is not unbeaterble when he's the 'regular' Flash, but very few are a threat to him if he's running at full speed. Zoom is one that can threaten him, so is Superboy Prime, who he could only defeat with the help of the others Flash's by pulling him into the speedforce, and that was only temporary. Otherwise you need someone who can either negate his speed (by magic or realitywarps) or strike him from a safe distance, like the Sinestro corpsman and John Steward who traded sniper fire across space sectors. And for all the speed he has, Wally cant fly.

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    #14  Edited By Video_Martian

    Wally West is powerful, but he's not unbeatable.

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    #15  Edited By wallywest55

    yeah wally is beatable. The person beating him has to be mighty strong tho and really fast or just straight OP (over powered).

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    #16  Edited By nightcrawler1212

    he might really powerful but not unbeatable

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    #17  Edited By Kallarkz
    @Band Lone said:
    " Hes the fastest Flash but I doubt hes unbeatable "
    is this statement still accurate?

    I thought Barry Allen was the fastest now due to his time with the Speed Force
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    #18  Edited By PrinceIMC

    He moves so quickly that even other speedsters appear to be standing still next to him. That's kinda hard to beat. But there are ways.

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    #19  Edited By HolySerpent
    @Valtot said:
    "

    no...

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    @The Dark Huntress said:
    " Not at all.  "
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    #20  Edited By Mercy_
    @Kallarkz said:
    " @Band Lone said:
    " Hes the fastest Flash but I doubt hes unbeatable "
    is this statement still accurate?

    I thought Barry Allen was the fastest now due to his time with the Speed Force
    "
    To my understanding that's a bunch of WIS brought on by a Geoffcon. It was always understood that Wally was the fastest and he had the feats to back it up. 
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    #21  Edited By Thor's hammmer


    Cosmic levels stomp him

    Black racer beats him

    Runner brobably beats him

    Mkkari maybe beates him

    Hermes and Hermod(marvel) might beat him

    Zoom beats him

    Flash 1,000,000 beats him

    in an alternate reality Captain Marvel uses his speed of mercury and actually outraces him but thats not canon.

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    #22  Edited By Theworldbreaker

    Silver Surfer beats him, in power and speed!

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    #23  Edited By Demas
    @Thor's hammmer said:
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    Black racer beats him

    "

    Uh, both Barry and Wally have outraced Black Racer, and Wally's done it more than three times.

    @Thor's hammmer said: 
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    Zoom beats him

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       As I mentioned in this thread, Zoom II is currently in a wheelchair and isn't outracing anyone.  Even at his peak he beat Wally in ONE story arc (and even in that story- Blitz- Wally ultimately was fast enough to stop Zoom).  EVERY appearance since then he's been beaten by Wally and others.  Using that one story arc to say Zoom II is always faster than Wally is like saying Bane is always a better fighter than Batman or that Doomsday is always stronger than Superman, despite repeated rematches showing to the contrary.

    As for the original topic, Wally's strong for Battles but since when do Battle rules dictate anything besides Battles?

    This thread has a list of feats (with scans) showing why Wally has some of the highest documented speed abilities:

    One thing to note is that Flash's biggest feat- the Chongjin Rescue (which essentially gives Wally infinite time to accomplish practically any task)- has been referenced in Robinson's recent JLA run, meaning it was not just a one-time event to be forgotten, but something canonized into Flash / JLA lore.  By comparison, every time someone mentions Bane or Doomsday, etc. now there's an explanation for why their victory was a special case inapplicable to other conflicts.  Zoom II was hyped- for Blitz- to be the epitome of speed, but just like Bane, Doomsday, etc. in every subsequent battle Wally beat Zoom II.  If you're sticking to Battle rules you need to go by feats not hyperbole and Zoom II doesn't have better feats than Wally.

    @Thor's hammmer said: 
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    Runner brobably beats him

    "

    As a cosmic, maybe, but not as a speedster.  Buried Alien beat Runner in a race.  Buried Alien was Marvel's homage to the recently killed Barry Allen.  Wally has better speed feats than Barry.
       
    @Thor's hammmer said: 
    "Flash 1,000,000
    Nope.  The Flash of the 853rd century is John Fox (from the 27th century) who briefly replaced Wally in the 20th century.  They had their showdown and Wally "won".
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    #24  Edited By batflasharrow96

    It's impossible to be unbeatable even in fiction

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    #25  Edited By TheCheeseStabber

    Just trip him when he runs lol

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    #26  Edited By jobbernos

    no...

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    #27  Edited By Deathstroke02

    No, he can beat him

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    No one is unbeatable in comics except maybe TOAA, but Wally is definitely one of the most powerful Superheroes of DC.

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    @rustyroy said:

    No one is unbeatable in comics except maybe TOAA, but Wally is definitely one of the most powerful Superheroes of DC.

    This. He can be beaten by higher tier characters like cosmics, teambusters, skyfathers etc but put him in comparison to DC or Marvel's heroes and Wally is certainly one of the most powerful out of them.

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    I think Wally is the best (not omnipotent) superhero.

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    @enzy said:

    I think Wally is the best (not omnipotent) superhero.

    I agree. I like him because he is the most powerful (non-omnipotent) superhero, but he down plays his own powers because he is a genuine good guy who checks his ego.

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    With Barry as "the Flash" (as I don't collect book after Wally was set aside for N52) was he given the abilities Wally has accumulated over the years?

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    With Barry as "the Flash" (as I don't collect book after Wally was set aside for N52) was he given the abilities Wally has accumulated over the years?

    No. He doesn't have any powers that Wally had and he didn't from before. He's got new powers that neither of them had in the Pre-52, though.

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    Nah, anybody who can manifest outside body (as projection or spirit) can beat Flash since speed based attacks won't work on her/him. Flash is good against people who rely on physical body

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    Wally is beatable

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    Only BatGod, Doom w/ prep, ComicVine Silver Surfer and a radioactive banana peel could beat the Almighty Deity of Speed himself

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