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I did not know that was the art style, it kinda looks good. 
also it seems I am back to disagreeing with Babs almost all the time.

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Well that extremely split review did not help my decition at all... I suppose split the two an just go look at it.
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LOL ya guys even up here a 23 year old dating a 17 year old is pretty weird

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My question is, will reading this book color your opinion of the movie? Do you think you'll hate the movie because you hated the book?
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@CrimsonInuTears said:
" Well that extremely split review did not help my decition at all... I suppose split the two an just go look at it. "
Borrow the first volume and see what you think. As was pretty much stated, the first volume's not the best. I think the series does get better and, again, as G-Man said it's not really essential reading, just mindless, short-lasting entertainment. 
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wait wait wait....Brasil? WOW. Looks like i disagree with Babs more than ever. WOW.
were going to have some problems. This relationship is over.

ANYHOW... i never really thought of picking this up and i currently feel the same way. 
Im still waiting for something you review that i want to pick up. :/

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i am from Canada, and from what i understand it is not really ok for 23 year olds to date 17 year old high schoolers. i have not had a lot of experience with this, but im pretty sure it's frowned up.
 
but i really like Scott Pilgrim. i love the pseudo-anime style, all the video-game/comic book-iness of it. and G-Man, it is pretty superpowered, with all the subspace stuff and everything that happens later in the series.

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@D34dM4n: Yeah, I've noticed the subspace stuff ('subspace suitcase in vol. 3). I'm about to start reading volume 4.
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I thought it was awesome, but i know people that really didn't. Its the sort of thing that not everyone'll find funny, a bit of a marmite book

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Don't just read this volume I would only suggest "Buy it" if you plan on reading all the books, yes it does get better each volume, no you don't need to read this to enjoy the movie (well at least I don't think so). I think this is going to be an awesome summer Movie reading the book will only give you something to compare it to. If you do feel that you do need to read it just "Borrow it" or do what Tony did and shop for a good price, and when the movie comes out go see it with a group of friends and have a good time.

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i would say buy it if your looking for a funny story as its real funny. i have to say i like the scott pilgrim character as i kinda am a dork like him just without the ultra powered fighting moves. but i really really have enjoyed all five books and they are like £5 in england whhich is like £2 more than a monthly batman comic so i would say it is definitly worth getting

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 I flipped through some of the volumes at the book store after hearing the hype and remember thinking, this is SO NOT my thing for comics. Then i saw the preview for the movie and it looks awesome...actually i can't wait to see it. I don't think i'll read the comic regardless, its still not really my cup of tea art and style wise. Does that make any sense?    

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I'll take Bab's advice. The video game and music references would be entertaining but the overall vibe just seems... weak.

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I love me some Scott Pilgrim, I read books 1 - 5 within just a few days and I almost can't get enough of it.  I love the overall story, I love the writing and some of the characters are just amazing.  But I can totally see why some people wouldn't want to read it or if they do, not like it at all.

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ALRIGHT
 
Scott Pilgrim is my favourite comic-book, as well as my favourite character. When Babs said "Bury It", I had a quick surge of "Oh jesus, I'm gonna have to write a big long post about how she's wrong", or something, but it turns out that she has some pretty legit criticisms.
 
1) Scott isn't exactly a likeable character, that's true, and part of the overall story arc is Scott becoming a functional human being. Also, karma does hit him back for being such a douchebag, by Volume 5, rather heavily.
 
2) The entire art style gets more and more refined as the series goes on. Including Ramona's hair! To quote her she "changes it, like, every three weeks".
 
3) A 23-year old dating a 17 year old is uncommon where I live (CANADA, GASP), but it's not unheard of. Hell, back when I was in middle school, a 13 year old girl I knew was dating a nineteen year old, which is significantly more creepy.
 
4) Volume 1 doesn't really show it but it becomes more clear as the books go on that Scott's world is like our world, but a videogame, basically. Which is why everybody has superpowers when they fight and they have extra men and lifebars. It's not outright said, but when "Money meters" and stuff start popping up it gets obvious. So it's a mix of our world and a videogame (or, at least, I think it is). The giant River City Ransom reference that shows up later sorta helps cement this ("I had to fight, like, 99 guys to rescue her, God!").
 
Looking back, I guess part of the reason why I was so drawn in to Scott Pilgrim back when I first read Volume 1 was that it was unique, it was funny, it catered to my videogame and music tastes, Scott's slacker lifestyle reminds me of me, and it's all Canadian practically (which is something I've yet to see or read again). All of Babs' criticisms are positives for me, so your mileage may vary. I loved Volume 1 (I've read the series about four times over now), but it's probably the weakest of the five that are available, so it does get better! Try out Volume 2, I ended liking it a lot more (although I have a feeling that the entire intro is gonna fly over your guys' heads, no offense).
 
Good video.

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It's legal for a 23 year old to date a 17 high schooler. I know that I think that's weird and that it happens more then you'd think.
 
I think that the movie looks interesting despite the fact that Michael Cera is in it. I'll probably end up going to see it.

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 I'm from Toronto, but I'm pretty sure that a 23 year old dating a 17 year old is weird almost everywhere.
The storytelling gets better throughout the series and the art gets MUCH better throughout the series.
As you can probably tell, I really like this series and I would suggest you borrow the first book if you're interested, just to get a taste of what the series is like, because it's definitely not for everyone.  I feel like for the most part, it's hit or miss.  From my experience, people really enjoy it or they don't care for it at all.

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I thought the movie trailer looked fun and sort of fresh so I read the first two volumes. Babs is right and you can tell G-man is really on the fence about it.
 
The writer preys on nostalgia regarding video games in order to justify the selfish, unlikeable main character. It's pretty hollow overall and kind of took away from a great looking trailer. I liken it to Johnny the Homicidal Maniac. Fun to read when you're a teen but comes off as embarrassing when you read it now.

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When I first read the first volume, the things I complained about was the artwork and the fact that Scott was dating a 17 year old girl. Overall, I found that the first volume was pretty interesting. Basically, the entire series is over the top stuff with a lot of video game reference. After reading the recent volume, I would say the the 5th volume is the weakest somewhat.

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I have read all the volumes and I really liked Scott Pilgrim and am looking forward to the movie. I would not say Scott doesn't care about other people or is self centered but he is just oblivious, to the world around him. His character actually believed the CD he ordered from amazon would be delivered right away by Ramona. As to him dating a 17 year old, its not like that went anywhere and was over when Ramona came into his life. Yes Scott is somewhat disconnected with reality but if you continue on with the series you will see the reason why he has become that way. As for Babs knowing to many people like Scott, I am sorry that her past acquaintances have jaded her to how good this title really is.

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@YOUNGneil: here in england
at least 10 girls the age of 15 and 16 in my school have dated people in thier early twenties so we're kinda used to the idea
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Michael Cera on a movie...Oh no!!!!!! 
Scott Pilgrim is  definitely  a pedafile.

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I love the books, I want to see the movie. And for some reason, I always disagree with babs for some reason.

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I've read some Scott Pilgrim and its not for me either. I've got a son who loves it and several friends who feel the same. I try to give everything a shot, be it superhero, crime, western, horror, fantasy, etc.....and I just couldnt get into this series. I, like Babs have met too many people like this in real life and didnt like them then. I dont want to read about a bunch of whiny, aimless, indie rock kids.
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@longbowhunter said:
"I dont want to read about a bunch of whiny, aimless, indie rock kids. "
Indie and aimless I can go with, but whiny?
 
I don't think any of them whines except for, like, Knives and she doesn't even count, and maybe when Scott gets into a fight but that's justified.
 
Jesus, get your criticisms right! :P
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Books I really don't like: Scott Pilgrim
 
Indie rock meets under-age dating... No thanks.

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I'd have to agree with Babs and inferiorego on this one.

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@CaptainUseless said:
" I'd have to agree with Babs and inferiorego on this one. "
I like my pants baggy so my junk doesn't hurt... this book likes tight tight TIGHT pants
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Hahaha! Nice.

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@Sparda: 

Actually the whiny, aimless, indie rock kids thing I said was in reference to the people I actually know. Not the book. I was saying I dont want to read a story about characters who seem like people I know. Whiny, aimless, indie rock kids. I wasnt trying to belittle the book. I honestly dont care enough about it to try. Now that I've gotten my criticisms right maybe you can follow your own advice.        
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@longbowhunter said:
" @Sparda: Actually the whiny, aimless, indie rock kids thing I said was in reference to the people I actually know. Not the book. I was saying I dont want to read a story about characters who seem like people I know. Whiny, aimless, indie rock kids. I wasnt trying to belittle the book. I honestly dont care enough about it to try. Now that I've gotten my criticisms right maybe you can follow your own advice.         "
Hahaha, I was joking dude. That's what the emoticon meant.
 
There was no "seem" when you said that you didn't want to read about whiny, aimless, indie kids so I took it to say that's what you thought hte characters were like.
 
Eaaaaaaaaasy, I don't care enough about your opinion to belittle it :P
 
(see, emoticon? S'all in good fun)
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Here's what I'm curious about:  how much of Babs' opinion of the book involved her hatred of Michael Cera? 
 
With that said, Scott Pilgrim is an acquired taste.  Unfortunately, I only mildly have that taste, as I don't really care for manga.  However, Edgar Wright is directing the movie...and that guy knows how to make funny happen.

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@jakob187 said:
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With that said, Scott Pilgrim is an acquired taste.

"
The same acquired taste that makes some people eat their own ear wax?
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The 3rd or 4th are my favorites, alot of character development, stuff most likely being cut out, the 5th book has some extra dimensional stuff, fighting robots, but then again it could all be whack.  

The first book is kinda lame but the rest of them are really good, the first book is what it is, a first book
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@inferiorego said:
" @jakob187 said:
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With that said, Scott Pilgrim is an acquired taste.

"
The same acquired taste that makes some people eat their own ear wax? "
Yes!
 
Beautiful, candy-flavoured wax.
 
Finally, someone understands!
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@Sparda said:
" @inferiorego said:
" @jakob187 said:
"

With that said, Scott Pilgrim is an acquired taste.

"
The same acquired taste that makes some people eat their own ear wax? "
Yes!
 
Beautiful, candy-flavoured wax.
 
Finally, someone understands! "
No a book that tastes like bitter pompousness and poop
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@inferiorego said:
" @Sparda said:
" @inferiorego said:
" @jakob187 said:
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With that said, Scott Pilgrim is an acquired taste.

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The same acquired taste that makes some people eat their own ear wax? "
Yes!
 
Beautiful, candy-flavoured wax.
 
Finally, someone understands! "
No a book that tastes like bitter pompousness and poop "
I find your lack of tolerance for those who enjoy wax disturbing, Ego.
 
Also, baggy pants. I dunno about you, fella, but a pair of jeans are baggy enough for me and the members of the cast of Scott Pilgrim that actually wear pants!
 
What have you got against jeans? Hmmm? Any X-Men aftertaste responsible for your irrational hatred?
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@Sparda said:
" @inferiorego said:
" @Sparda said:
" @inferiorego said:
" @jakob187 said:
"

With that said, Scott Pilgrim is an acquired taste.

"
The same acquired taste that makes some people eat their own ear wax? "
Yes!
 
Beautiful, candy-flavoured wax.
 
Finally, someone understands! "
No a book that tastes like bitter pompousness and poop "
I find your lack of tolerance for those who enjoy wax disturbing, Ego.  Also, baggy pants. I dunno about you, fella, but a pair of jeans are baggy enough for me and the members of the cast of Scott Pilgrim that actually wear pants!  What have you got against jeans? Hmmm? Any X-Men aftertaste responsible for your irrational hatred? "
I am very open minded, except for people who wear tight pants and eat ear wax
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@inferiorego said:
"I am very open minded, except for people who wear tight pants and eat ear wax "
You prejudice bastard.
 
I don't think that I can continue this relationship any longer, Ego. You're clearly a bad influence.
 
And all the good times we had, you were secretly hating me? WHAT PART OF YOU IS REAL
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I currently own Vol. 1 - 3 of this. I plan on getting the other 3 before the movie is out. But I'll agree, it's kind of a hard read if your not into the goofiness of anime or if you take your comics very seriously. The comic also seems to be all over place with random flashbacks that come out of nowhere and how fast the plot moves. But it gets better as it goes on and I don't regret reading it and I think that the fact that I want the last 3 volumes says something.

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Well, this is the first time that I've strongly disagreed with you guys! Scott Pilgrim is one of my all time favorite series' and I'm a long time fan of Bryan O'Malley (if you couldn't figure out by all my Pilgrim/O'Malley wiki contributes). These were some of the first books that had me laughing out loud on almost every page.
 
I'd almost think to compare this series to  Quentin Tarantino movies... you either LOVE them, or you hate them... them is very little middle ground on the subject.

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@Sparda said:
" @inferiorego said:
"I am very open minded, except for people who wear tight pants and eat ear wax "
You prejudice bastard.  I don't think that I can continue this relationship any longer, Ego. You're clearly a bad influence.  And all the good times we had, you were secretly hating me? WHAT PART OF YOU IS REAL "
My love is real but I am not... wait.. did I just quote A.I.?
I may need to hit the reset button
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I agree with G-Man on this one. It has a fun quality, and while people often criticize it for kitschy use of pop culture references, it's fun, light reading with an entertaining story and cast. Definitely worth a read especially if you plan to see the movie.

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I read through the first volume until I hated the title character. He's one of those punk jerks I would have hated on in high school.

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@inferiorego said:
" @jakob187 said:
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With that said, Scott Pilgrim is an acquired taste.

"
The same acquired taste that makes some people eat their own ear wax? "
or ya know,  hummus or english muffins
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@Emperor Gonzo Noir said:
" @inferiorego said:
" @jakob187 said:
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With that said, Scott Pilgrim is an acquired taste.

"
The same acquired taste that makes some people eat their own ear wax? "
or ya know,  hummus or english muffins "
i like both of those though
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@inferiorego said:

" @jakob187 said:

"With that said, Scott Pilgrim is an acquired taste."

The same acquired taste that makes some people eat their own ear wax? "
...and listen to bad music?  Yeah.  That's the taste alright. 
 
I don't know.  I liked the art style, but not the manga style of the art style.  I thought the dialogue was stupid and childish, but it's so tongue-in-cheek that it's kind of endearing for it.  I found the characters to be drab and dull, but they are meant to be drab and dull.  They are slackers with no future, no ambition, no reasoning. 
 
Like I said, not my thing, but I understand why there are people that like it.  It's a series that is literally about trying to capture some essence of "cool" rather than being about anything worthwhile in general.
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@inferiorego said:
" @Emperor Gonzo Noir said:
" @inferiorego said:
" @jakob187 said:
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With that said, Scott Pilgrim is an acquired taste.

"
The same acquired taste that makes some people eat their own ear wax? "
or ya know,  hummus or english muffins "
i like both of those though "
well see, there you go
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I have the first three books. and have read them so i don't have the whole story, but I have liked it so far.
 and i'm looking forward to the movie.

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I won't speak for all of Canada but in my junior high there was this one girl who's boyfriend was an adult I believe and no one seemed to care about it...does that count?

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