Back in the early years of the 00's I was in love with the Ultimate Universe, I think it was really a good gateway drug to the Marvel Universe Proper in many ways, you learn about Peter Parker and Mary Jane in Ultimate Spider-Man, you go look into their adventures in Amazing. But as the reboot nears the one year mark in a few months I'm beginning to wonder if it's simply that I no longer need a second living timeline in my Marvel comics experience or if the universe as a whole has run it's course.  
 
Believe me, I loved Ultimate Comics Spider-Man #1 and all the new things it brought to the Ultimate Peter Parker character. I'm interested to read about Peter and Gwen as a couple, because even though she was dead for about a decade when I was born, I like the idea of Peter and Gwen more then Peter and MJ. But as the last few issues have passed by, I don't feel that much into what's going on, maybe I just want the High School romance of two characters more then the misadventures of Rick Jones. I still plan to read it for awhile longer, just to give Bendis the benefit of the doubt, but it's becoming a shorter list of things I'm liking every day. 
 
But the real reason I write this blog, the thing that really makes me stand up and shout, "ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!" is New Ultimates, after reading this crap I begin to wonder why the Ultimate office is letting Loeb near these characters after he F%&$ed them over last time. I mean, is it just me? I think this is a waste of paper. I understand that there is the underlining story of the return of Ultimate Thor and some other mess, but this doesn't feel needed, it doesn't feel like it continues the story. And why is Hela disrobing for Thor? I understand sex happens in the Ultimate/Marvel Universe, but this and the crap going on in Ultimates 3 a few years back (also written by Loeb strangely) just seems to be sex for the purpose of getting attention.  
 
I don't know, the more I think about it the more I think maybe Jeph Loeb shouldn't be allowed near the Ultimate Office and that people like Bendis and Millar can handle it. I really liked the Ultimate Universe so many years back and I guess I'd like to know how other feel.

i never really enjoyed them, i read them but wouldn't tell someone else to read them, the one thing that I really really like about it is how main characters die, so theres not a story arc that will come up where you know everyone is going to survive, its a actual surprise which I think comics have no more. Their too predictable. 

Nah.Don't like it

Didn't Ultimatum creatively kill off the Ultimate universe?

I read marvel adventures now...

I think its going really and as much of a mess as it was it will distance it even more from the main Marvel universe which is a good thing but could go wrong if they distance it to much

I liked the ultimate universe at first. Ultimate X-Men and the original Ultimates.....but I just haven't been interested in it in a long long time.
 
I like in an issue of She-Hulk how she explained it. The Living Tribunal asked for her to argue against the Ultimate Universe replacing the 616 universe. She called the Ultimate Universe the universal equivalent of a hot trophy wife. And though the continuity of 616 might be a little convoluted it is legendary. I like this analogy because I think the honeymoon is over with the hot new trophy wife and the Ultimate Universe should just go away.

" I liked the ultimate universe at first. Ultimate X-Men and the original Ultimates.....but I just haven't been interested in it in a long long time.  I like in an issue of She-Hulk how she explained it. The Living Tribunal asked for her to argue against the Ultimate Universe replacing the 616 universe. She called the Ultimate Universe the universal equivalent of a hot trophy wife. And though the continuity of 616 might be a little convoluted it is legendary. I like this analogy because I think the honeymoon is over with the hot new trophy wife and the Ultimate Universe should just go away. "

I like it but I think that overall its not working out so well for Marvel. It could have been great if they put half as much effort into it as they have this whole "Siege" thing.

" @PrinceIMC:   At what point did you lose interest?   The analogy doesn't really work for me because I only lost interest after Loeb took over.   It's more like finding a cast member has been been replaced by a different actress and the ratings subsequently going down the tube. "

I liked Millar's dark interpretation of the Avengers and it was a nice contrast from 616.   I'm not necessarily opposed to a soft-reboot like Ultimatum, but I feel like Jeph Loeb has lost what made Ultimates interesting.   
 
What I'd like to hear from other people is why they liked Ultimatum or didn't like the old Ultimates.   Is it just not your cup of tea or was it Millar's writing or something else?   I have my views and I'd like to understand others'.

I actually like the Ultimate Universe and wish more writers worked on it. It would give the writers more freedom to interpret characters in their own way. Instead of taking already well established and iconic characters, and changing them within the main continuity.

Preach PREACHA!!!! Hallelujah

" I liked Ultimatum simply because it was something that is hard to be undone and brought a more gritty feel to the world. When you think about it it was more realistic in how things would turn out if there really was all these super powered heroes and villains running around on the planet.  Even though i did like Ultimatum tho because of the way it ended i dont think they can really build on it. "