Transformers: Age of Extinction

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#52 Posted by Wolverine008 (51027 posts) - - Show Bio

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@granitesoldier:

Biggest gripe of the entire franchise: in the first movie Tyrese Gibson (the Air Force Combat Controller with the Army guys) is a Tech Sergeant, an E-6. In the second...taking place only a year or two or a few years at most later...he's a Chief Master Sergeant, an E-9 and the highest enlisted rank in the USAF. That drove me insane. Basically they looked at a high rank that sounded cool and gave it to him hoping the audience had no idea what it meant. I suppose it works for the average moviegoer, but it bothers the hell out of me. Nitpicky I guess.

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Yeah big problem lol. But I hate when Hollywood does zero research on something (usually military related) and translates it onto the screen. It's not hard!

Explosions take precedence over accuracy damnit!

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#53 Posted by GraniteSoldier (12746 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: In a Michael Bay film? Yeah, they do. The only one of his movies I actually enjoy, for some reason, is Bad Boys II.

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#54 Posted by micah007123 (10836 posts) - - Show Bio

@micah: Because they insist on having way too many human characters. Reduce the number of humans down to a core group of ancillary characters and focus more on the bots and their war and you instantly have a great sci-fi movie. The humans are the worst part of this franchise.

We never get to fully enjoy the movie versions of the characters we grew up loving because they focus too much on the humans and their reactions to the bots.

Amem

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#55 Posted by Twix_Right_Side (2406 posts) - - Show Bio

What kind of stereotypes?

Like Mudflap and Skids (ugh!)?

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#56 Posted by Winter_Kills (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

The only one I saw in theaters was the first back when I was in college. I was disappointed then. Felt jumbled and incoherent. I saw the other two on tv...made even less sense. The entire thing was structured around these awesome robots but without reason or purpose so...it was a mess. I expected more of the same with this one, and now unfortunately they dragged my favorite childhood transformer into the fray (Grimlock)! I may watch this on Netflix or something when it makes it to there. Biggest gripe of the entire franchise: in the first movie Tyrese Gibson (the Air Force Combat Controller with the Army guys) is a Tech Sergeant, an E-6. In the second...taking place only a year or two or a few years at most later...he's a Chief Master Sergeant, an E-9 and the highest enlisted rank in the USAF. That drove me insane. Basically they looked at a high rank that sounded cool and gave it to him hoping the audience had no idea what it meant. I suppose it works for the average moviegoer, but it bothers the hell out of me. Nitpicky I guess.

I want to like the Transformers movies, I really do. But I feel like they insult my intelligence with how random and how little sense the plots make. Plus the dialogue is always, always, awful.

Agreed on all points. This movie sounds pretty much like what I expected, which isn't much, and I'm the same way about Bay's TMNT film(funny that he has two movies coming out at this time- money money money!! That's what it's all about. We're all walking dollar signs to him, but I don't play well into that.) I knew that both these movies were going be train-wrecks(very expensive train-wrecks with Bay explosions), just like their predecessors- but let's face it, these train-wrecks will make lots of money. I once asked my dad, "How can people be lining up around the block to see these mediocre movies?" And I'll never forget his reply: "Because everybody wants to see a train-wreck, son." Nuff said.

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#57 Posted by Darkmount1 (1535 posts) - - Show Bio

Can someone confirm for me whether or not the Dinobots speak other than just the usual growls and snarls?

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#58 Posted by GraniteSoldier (12746 posts) - - Show Bio

@winter_kills: Ironically I am actually interested in TMNT, but Bay didn't have a hand in any of the writing/direction for that one so I'm hopeful haha.

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#59 Posted by HumanRocket (11234 posts) - - Show Bio

Not getting any of my money. Saw the first one, which was good, but I knew from watching the trailers from the 2nd and 3rd films that they were going to be bad so didn't bother paying to watch them. And I can say the same for this one. Saving my money for GOTG.

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#60 Edited by Chibi_cute (5157 posts) - - Show Bio

Transformers is a product commercial and a military recruitment ad rolled into one.. pretty sure a sequel is on the works TRANSFORMERS 5 AGE OF THE FALLEN..

AND STILL WAITING FOR A PACIFIC RIM SEQUEL..

thats why we can't have nice things.

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#61 Posted by micah007123 (10836 posts) - - Show Bio

Transformers is a product commercial and a military recruitment ad rolled into one.. pretty sure a sequel is on the works TRANSFORMERS 5 AGE OF THE FALLEN..

AND STILL WAITING FOR A PACIFIC RIM SEQUEL..

thats why we can't have nice things.

April 7, 2017

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#62 Posted by judasnixon (12663 posts) - - Show Bio
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#63 Posted by Fallschirmjager (23432 posts) - - Show Bio

All I care about is Dinobots and they were sweet so I'm happy.

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#64 Posted by patrat18 (11738 posts) - - Show Bio
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#66 Posted by lynxbearaus (112 posts) - - Show Bio

Why not give someone else the permission to direct?

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#67 Posted by Winter_Kills (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

@winter_kills: Ironically I am actually interested in TMNT, but Bay didn't have a hand in any of the writing/direction for that one so I'm hopeful haha.

There may be some good nuggets in there if Bay didn't have anything to do with the writing..but the Turtles still look weird to me, though. They're the biggest ninjas I've ever seen. Isn't there a weight limit on ninjas? Seriously though, I might look into TMNT far faster than I would this film. I swore I wasn't going to spend any more money on any other TF films under Bay's direction after the second train-wreck..I mean, movie.

Not getting any of my money. Saw the first one, which was good, but I knew from watching the trailers from the 2nd and 3rd films that they were going to be bad so didn't bother paying to watch them. And I can say the same for this one. Saving my money for GOTG.

I hear ya, bro! My hard-earned sheckels is going to see GOTG! The only other film I've physically gone out to the movies to see this "movie season" was Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which was worth every freakin' penny. Can't wait 'til Sept. for its release. I know GOTG is gonna rock as well! If it doesn't, I'll pull a Werner Herzog and cook and eat my shoe. But I'm willing to take that bet since it's Marvel Studios.

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#68 Posted by ARMIV2 (10074 posts) - - Show Bio

Make a trilogy based on the entire war for Cybertron. C'mon now.

Not with Bay, though.

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#69 Posted by roguejedi74 (19 posts) - - Show Bio

Glad to see so many people voicing their disgust for this film. I grew up on the cartoon and I want this to be good but it just isn't. Maybe one day they can reboot this and make it worth my while.

Here are my reasons for disliking the films and the changes that need to be made:

  • Director - Michael Bay = New director
  • Lead Actor - Shia Labeouf = Good move bringing in Walburg
  • Lead Actress - Megan Fox = Brought in a new chick doing the same annoying crap as the last films
  • Non-robot combatants = I just don't see how we would be able to fight robots like that from another planet
  • Optimums Prime = Should be the lead in this film. He should be the smartest and play an emotional heartfelt character. I feel like he is written and acted better in the cartoon

I could go on but what is the point. People will flock to this film. Maybe I could go watch a GI Joe movie. Of wait, that is terrible too :)

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#70 Edited by MAZAHS117 (12537 posts) - - Show Bio

This review reads more like a 2star but was given 3 out of 4 stars

........Seems that even tho the plot and acting is horrible (as expected -_-), the action and visuals over-compensate for that.

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#71 Posted by Crimsonlord53 (1546 posts) - - Show Bio

Only one problem with less humans in this movies the studios would never go for it.

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#72 Posted by The_Scourge (5341 posts) - - Show Bio

So not worth the cash. I couldn't wait for the movie to end lol.

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#73 Edited by k4tzm4n (41737 posts) - - Show Bio

@shazam117 said:

This review reads more like a 2star but was given 3 out of 4 stars

........Seems that even tho the plot and acting is horrible (as expected -_-), the action and visuals over-compensate for that.

3 out of 5. ;) If I could give half-stars, I'd go with a 2.5. I wouldn't say the acting is "horrible" as opposed to there's some pretty cringeworthy dialogue at times and, as expected, the plot's a mess and they could have trimmed at least 15 minutes. That said, it's shot well, the visuals are great, some of the humor is enjoyable, it gives us a ton of action and brings a couple of neat developments to the mythos. If you go into a movie theater and ask for a ticket to Transformers 4, I imagine that's exactly what most people are expecting (big, dumb fun) and, for the most part, it does deliver on those and then some.

.@twix_right_side said:

What kind of stereotypes?

Like Mudflap and Skids (ugh!)?

I will say it's VERY toned down in this regard compared to the other movies.

@fresh_prince said:

So not worth the cash. I couldn't wait for the movie to end lol.

Yeah, the runtime is unnecessarily long.

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#74 Posted by w0nd (6803 posts) - - Show Bio

Clearly this will have spoilers

People complained the old ones were too focused on the humans. I don't see how this was any different, except at least in the last one, even though people HATED shia, he had some sort of emotional bond with bumble bee. This movie the humans and the bots have no attachment what so ever. The auto bots don't let them forget that, and personally I would have the same mindset as them. The only difference now is that the movie was 3 hours long which means more time to see Mark try to be a dad and learn how to get along with his daughters boyfriend. Not actually sure the moral of the story here? the lesson to be learned is mistakes, but no one seemed to learn from theirs, they were just forced to stay alive.

And the precious dino bots everyone was so excited to see because the bad ass grimlock is back in action. he has no lines and he had 10 -15 mins of actual screen time. Im being generous. He was this bad ass leader from what I have seen ( i don't know too much about him to be honest) in the games he was pretty bad ass, and seeing people online go on and on how no one messes with him....come movie time

optimus basically tells him to help him or they would die and then punches him in the face LOL. Grimlock was treated pretty much like a dog, a pet that optimus had to show who was boss.


The autobots literally had no reason to help anyone, they announced over and over how they didn't want to but they went along with it anyway.

and then there is the cliche bad guy plot. "We hate transformers, so we will make a deal with ones we have never seen before, who clearly tell us over and over deals go south, and people can't be trusted...to use technology we don't understand, to make more! NAILED IT"

"the robot I am building keeps automatically making itself look like Megatron....well this is a problem but better keep going!"

the humans i this movie were just the absolute worst, I actually wanted to see them enslaved, ungrateful. you would think after the last movie where they were duped and sent the autobots off world and then the autobots STILL came back to save them they would have some sort of respect/gratefulness, but nope!


I went in with low expectations, should have went in with lower, BUT the action scenes were amazing, I will give it props for that.

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#75 Posted by laflux (24723 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08 said:

@granitesoldier:

Biggest gripe of the entire franchise: in the first movie Tyrese Gibson (the Air Force Combat Controller with the Army guys) is a Tech Sergeant, an E-6. In the second...taking place only a year or two or a few years at most later...he's a Chief Master Sergeant, an E-9 and the highest enlisted rank in the USAF. That drove me insane. Basically they looked at a high rank that sounded cool and gave it to him hoping the audience had no idea what it meant. I suppose it works for the average moviegoer, but it bothers the hell out of me. Nitpicky I guess.

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Yeah big problem lol. But I hate when Hollywood does zero research on something (usually military related) and translates it onto the screen. It's not hard!

Eh all military personnel are glorified gun monkeys anyway. What is there to research >:) ?

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#76 Posted by GraniteSoldier (12746 posts) - - Show Bio
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#78 Posted by Wolverine008 (51027 posts) - - Show Bio
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#79 Posted by laflux (24723 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: You seeing this?

As a Transformers fan, I feel obliged to, but I don't have any high hopes T_T

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#80 Edited by Wolverine008 (51027 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: Watch it for the daughter!

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#83 Posted by danhimself (21433 posts) - - Show Bio

I was very meh over this movie....it seemed like everything the Transformers said was designed as a soundbite and not actual dialogue and I really didn't care about the characters at all

this is mostly my love of the original designs speaking but the biggest problem that I've had with the films has been the generic designs of their robot forms...the G1 designs are nothing short of iconic for most people you could take G1 Optimus Prime's body and switch his head with any other character and you would be able to identify that it was Prime's body and 99% of the time you could even identify the head of the character...with these films it seems that they've changed the designs just so they could change them without really keeping anything iconic about them....I mean where has Megatron's Fusion Cannon been? that's arguably the most iconic visual aspect of the character and not once has it been present in the films

to me it just seems like Michael Bay doesn't really care about the source material at all and is just using character names and that's it

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#84 Posted by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (6868 posts) - - Show Bio

Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh. They didn't show the Quintessons!!! The closest thing to them was a muscle hand.

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#85 Posted by Ultra_Magnus (39 posts) - - Show Bio

I was very meh over this movie....it seemed like everything the Transformers said was designed as a soundbite and not actual dialogue and I really didn't care about the characters at all

this is mostly my love of the original designs speaking but the biggest problem that I've had with the films has been the generic designs of their robot forms...the G1 designs are nothing short of iconic for most people you could take G1 Optimus Prime's body and switch his head with any other character and you would be able to identify that it was Prime's body and 99% of the time you could even identify the head of the character...with these films it seems that they've changed the designs just so they could change them without really keeping anything iconic about them....I mean where has Megatron's Fusion Cannon been? that's arguably the most iconic visual aspect of the character and not once has it been present in the films

to me it just seems like Michael Bay doesn't really care about the source material at all and is just using character names and that's it

Thats why I'm happy I have yet to be forced to appear in the films. I'm pretty sure that wasn't the Hound I know, Hound was a scout and very kind. This new Hound was the exact opposite, he was a trigger happy warrior who has no resemblance to Hound. And thats just the start for the characters that have suffered in the movies.

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#86 Posted by 2chimcha3 (2303 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm tired of Michael Bay's Transformers. Won't be seeing it in theaters.

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#87 Edited by ULTRAstarkiller (9130 posts) - - Show Bio

So are we seeing Primus and Unicron next time around? Also i kinda felt it was less serious this time around. I liked it though not as much as 1 &3 but better than 2. I'm probably the worst Transformers fan ever. Lol :P

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#88 Posted by The Mast (793 posts) - - Show Bio

People need to stop saying you have to turn your brain off for movies. It's not our job to dumb ourselves down so the bad seems good, or passable.

It's the film-maker's job to make it legitimately good. If they don't, let's call it.

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#89 Posted by jayc1324 (26422 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually liked this movie very much.

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#90 Posted by Sebast_Allen (2729 posts) - - Show Bio

Enjoyed this movie, sort of:

The sort of isn't because of the movie, it's because of the cinema.

First, when we should have been in the cinema, we were held back for 20 minutes for no reason at all, when we finally got in, things went really south.

The movie began playing from the end, so we saw all of the main villains being killed off, saw the ending basically before the start.

At this point, i asked for my money back, it didn't happen obviously, so we sat back down and started the movie from the beginning, and gosh dangit, it was amazing, right until the sound went all english translated chinese movie.

Whenever yeager spoke, you heard Grimlock roaring or Optimus shouting, when Optimus spoke, all you heard was "DAAAAAAD'', it really ruined my experience, especially since the Dinobots had just been introduced when it happened...

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#91 Posted by EPYON8675 (78 posts) - - Show Bio

I enjoyed the film thought it was way better than Dark of the Moon. The new characters were neat and we finally get the Dinobots after they were suppose to appear in the second film. Either way you got to be a fan of the series and known the mythology of the franchise to understand. Also the focus of humans is what were going to get until the day they make a full on animated or CGI film. Oh wait they already made a film like that to end Prime last year and my opinion was not a fine way to end the series. So you either enjoy it the story or the action, but I'll say this Michael Bay may not be the best director for the future of the films but at least he made or childhood heroes come to life on the big screen.

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