@batmanary: Tim is a way better detective and better at prep than Dick is. The only advantage Dick has over Tim is fighting skills, Dick is the better fighter.

You're all forgetting to factor in the fact that Tim can make a girl like me weak at the knees.

Unlike that fuddy duddy Bruce Wayne!

Before the new 52 I understand where the OP is coming from. Tim Drake seemed like he was getting alot more character development than Bruce got. The Red Robin comics were better than most of the other Batman comics at the time. But on a side note I hate Damien Wayne. If anything he is a copy of Jason Todd to me.

I like Tim really much but Bruce is just the best character in the Bat Universe and that will never change.He is even the second best character of DC

To simplify things...Dick Grayson is the cheerful acrobat, Jason Todd is the street-smart punk, Tim Drake is the nerdy kid from a well-off background, and Damian Wayne is the kid that's now struggling to change himself from what he was originally raised to be.

@Shotgun: That's a pretty good summary tbh.

Except I still think it's hard to not refer to Damian as a brat. ;D

i agree completely

and with that my sanity is thrown away

with any reputation i have

this happened so long ago but im still laughing my ass of at this statement

@War Killer said:

If you comparing him to that Bruce Wayne persona then of course you're going to find Tim Drake more interesting or better; the whole point of the Bruce Wayne identity is to make people believe he's some selfish, arrogant, spoiled playboy that in no way on earth could every possible be The Batman. That's the point, so if you're comparing Tim Drake and all of his character development to THAT side of Bruce Wayne, then yes he's better.

But, if you're comparing him to the Bruce Wayne who sat alone in the dark while his parents lied there in front of him dead, who vowed on their graves that he would avenge their deaths, who has trained his body and mind to human perfection and uses every ounce of his knowledge, skills, ingenuity, and wealth to wage a war on crime. If you're comparing Tim Drake to THAT Bruce Wayne, then no he's nowhere close to being better because that is the man who became Batman.

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