@superiorsgbeast: No. She’s an imposter because I say so. Just like she’s not “Thor” just because you say so.

@thunderingthorfan: Your Logic is amazing you deserve a gold star and a cookie!

@superiorsgbeast: @superiorsgbeast: No. She’s an imposter because I say so. Just like she’s not “Thor” just because you say so.

And the “loud minority” is EXACTLY what you and others like you are. The SJWs that claim to be in the “Majority” have been proven wrong. The steady decline of the alleged “great” sales of Hammerette. The reversal of the forced FalCap. The reversal of CHULK. If y’all were the majority how come the changes that the “enlightened” diversity asinine few wanted didn’t stick? That’s ALL the proof needed and it can’t be argued.

We won and now the SJW writers are making our original characters pay for it in the stories. “They didn’t accept Hammerette? Fine. We’ll humiliate Thor. Make IM an adoptee. Remove Magneto’s offspring” Etc. Its revenge. Plain and simple.

@superiorsgbeast:

“Cool no proof only bragging about a blonde dude no one knew existed until the mcu.

You deserve a gold star for trying”

This statement is all the proof needed to show your nothing but an ignorant hateful troll. No one knew who IM was either. And just because you didn’t get your SJ bs doesn’t mean you have to pretend to be a “fan” band wagoner. It’s clear you’re just here to vent off about things you couldn’t change by attempting to piss off others. It’s clear from your quote that YOU are not a real fan. So there. That was very easily proven now wasn’t it.

PS- the sales of Hammerette were proven lackluster. There is evidence. If you’re good enough to waste time on a board fighting fans of a character you hate and that no one “knew existed” then GOOGLE other boards and you’ll find the proof you want. No one is your servant or friend here. Get out of your Mom’s basement and do something once in a while. Being here so much of the time ...... is just embarrassing.....

EXCELLENT !!! they lost and now Thor is suffering they are pathetic...

@thunderingthorfan: @thunderingthorfan: I’m astonished that you got just as triggered as a “sjw” over my sarcastic post. And then made two long paragraphs over it.

Literally screaming sjw because odinson lost his hammer and then not providing sources to either of your claims. But knowing you you’ll post a geek and gamers video am I right.

https://youtu.be/ZBqK6DgkBjE He literally debunks you with evidence Comicdrake

But hey what do i know I’m a sjw soy boy beta cuckasaurus Marvel needs to keep their heroes straight,white, and men just for you.

Basement cuck out peace!

I just don't care anymore... But i will always hate propaganda... And since its just copy/paste...

Behold... The triumph of Marvel/Wil/Aaron on Thor/Asgard over the last few years...

Still kinda shocked that Loki new comic was cancelled after just after 5 issues...

@asgaard: Well said.

I saw someone had posted sales numbers for the Jane Valkyrie book and noticed it had dropped 16K from issue #4 to #5, but yet had people saying I was nuts to suggest if the downward trend continued the title would be lucky to make it beyond the 8 issues already announced.

they will continue it's basically a vanity project..

Next time I should definitely make a thread to complain about a fictional character.

Yeah that totally is a good use of time

funny but you were all over it tho......ok

That kinds hit me by surprise tho....Jane's book had low sales but they continued anyway

@lazarus4tempest

@thor321

wtf man hahaah

@thor321 said:

@lazarus4tempest

@titing2101: @lazarus4tempest: wank for CM knows no bounds.

@titing2101: Damn, Marvel must really want their sales to plummet.

the desperation of that cover is overwhelming......CM comics are like the Kardashians of the Marvel universe it will do anything for attention and sales.....LMFAO(I AM ANNOYED AF)

That Galactus cover looks pretty sweet.

YUp! I'm also loving the new look. Still think Esad is a champ tho

TELL ME ABOUT IT

Thor amped by the power cosmic ....he is going to be insane can't wait.i wonder if that will lead to this

@lazarus4tempest: yea y heroes stay fighting each other tho

You are correct tho i'm not a fan of this concept either,AVX popularized this notion .Villains are basically redundant at this point which i find to be ludicrous

The advent of the dumb Civil War and subsequent events have rendered villains as a sideshow much of the time. It's one thing for heroes to occasionally disagree or even have a physical confrontation, but it's a very tired trope in the last 15 or so years.

Plus, most of the conflicts can and should be solved with the literal exchange of a few words. It sort of makes the heroes come across as dumb too, when it happens too often with the same characters (because let's be honest, rivalries are a thing.) Like, you can't tell how often you disagree and fight over nothing with the same person?

But those fights sell, so...

@lazarus4tempest: Well, it's interesting.

So, dating back to mythology we can say Thor is pretty uncaring by the complexities of life, for modern standards. Despite being the son of the god of wisdom and related to a trickster god, there has never once been a mug of mead and ale left sitting out that Thor could resist drinking to his displeasure. He's a noble warrior for viking standards, but he's a few vikings short of a raiding party.

So when it came time for Lee and Kirby to introduce Thor to the Marvel universe, this element stayed, either intentionally or by virtue of needing drama and "Tricked by a trickster god" is an easy way to get there. It's why one of Thor's most famous battles is him dive-tackling an illusion of Loki through an open door and into a pit of angry bees, while the real Loki stands off to the side cackling at the fact that his trickery worked again!

But eventually future Marvel writers came around, Thor's importance and powers were expanded (still less popular than Spiderman and the mutants though), and we started getting badass and ominous moments like "Ultron! we would have words with thee" and Thor wrecking Iron Man and astonish the people of Oklahoma in JMS run and that story where he has a philosophical conversation with a catholic priest.

Then the MCU comes around, and we need to re-introduce Thor. If you're going to start a character arc, you need to start somewhere, and Thor started out as a general dumbass blood knight. Not a dope like we're used too, but a cocky, arrogant young warrior who doesn't think things through. We see this in Thor and Thor: Dark World.

But we don't see it in Avengers. In Avengers (and especially in AoU) we see a Thor who is funny, but also the butt of the joke. His comical ineptness is played up, and Thor goes from "Young and arrogant" to "Actually, he's relatively even-headed, just a thundering dumbass"

By phase three, we love Thor for his meme potential. Dumb jokes, Chris Hemsworth's delivery - he's still powerful, but instead of being a wise warrior prince with a olde english accent he's more akin to a falstaffian character who isn't much different from the modern american fratboy.

So what does all this have to do with the comics universe?

Well, the MCU sinergy has completely remolded our image of Marvel Comics, and the Thor we're starting to see is undergoing character regression to more accurately match the MCU Thor. The problem is that the MCU Thor derives it's characterization from a version of Thor who believed garden hoses were snakes, and who hasn't been seen on the printed page since the late sixties

.I feel bad for Thor. Because he is such a fundamentally good character. His mythological background gives him an interesting pool of relevant texts to draw from, and the way he's been positioned in the marvel universe as a protector of humanity and magical hero (with a slight berserker rage tendency - enough to add some flavor to his style of rule, not enough to ruin it) makes for an interesting variety of threats he can face.

There was a comic story that I saw a while back that addressed this perfectly. It was a day in the life of Thor - and it saw him traveling the planet, protecting wild-life, drinking with the common people, experiencing the beauty of nature, and walking among the denizens of earth as Thor - not Thor, the idiot, self-important god of thunder - but as Thor, the noble warrior with a lust for life and an understanding that his role as leader is defined by his ability to help those who need, and not just by his ability to bash giant monsters on the head.

@mar-vell92:WOW! i am speech less, i have no objections... Beautifully laid out

@lazarus4tempest: Thank you. You should check my recent thread ''Do modern Marvel writers hate Thor?''

@mar-vell92: link please

@lazarus4tempest: https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/do-modern-marvel-writers-hate-thor-2073624/

@theacidskull: Avengers vs X-Men put a schreeching halt to the promise of the Heroic Age, heroes going back to their classic selves and stop fighting each other.

At least the Quesada era gave us good stories like Annihilation, Planet Hulk and JMS Thor.

@mar-vell92: true AVX is garbage Thor was totally humiliated in that event.... Jason Aaron made sure of that

@thor321: @phisigmatau: @lazarus4tempest: Friendly reminder of this video by Fernando Comics.

@mar-vell92:yeah i remember it

Cates is giving Thor the things he deserves.

@tonystark6999: I think its still a bit early to say that. I also hate how modern Writers ignore how the Odinforce works. To them, it just gives Thor slightly stronger lightning.

Thor gets a lot of disrespect from Marvel, but that doesn’t validate the rants of the “hurr sjw” morons on this thread. Always funny to see them around. Thor has been put in place by all races and genders.

Also Jane Valkyrie is actually a pretty solid book.

@mar-vell92: you are right the only writers who actually knows the dynamics of the Odin force are Walt and Jurgens, those 2 writers application of the force is the best I have seen thus far..

Hope Cates surprises me, he is hyping the 5&6 issues alot on Twitter hope it is not just dry words

@rabumalal: That's because Aaron turned Jane into his pet character and even in that book he never misses a chance to make her look superior than Thor to spite his detractors.

That Valkyrie book is garbage, Aaron had Thor easily consumed by some trash magic he called Rokkov ,and Jane just brushes off it effect like it nothing.

People can dispute the fact that Aaron is bias when it comes to Jane but i can show multiple scans showing this

@rabumalal: @@mar-vell92:

Solid issue?

Solid for Jane, that makes no sense a Valkyrie bid not superior to the All Father.

But this happened

A Valkyrie who is suspose to be below the All Father ,easily beats this Dark Magic..

But the All Father turn a slave to the same magic his inferior overcome

Right here Aaron make it seem like a Valkyrie could kill an All Father(no form of context can validate this garbage)

Solid ? @Rabumalal Just say you love Thor being undermined and spear us this illusion of you being neutral

@lazarus4tempest: rereading that made my stomach hurt.

holding back Valkyrie > OF Thor (amped on that black stuff)

..............

This thought of that make me sick to my stomach ,Aaron needs to keep Thor out of his trash of a stories.

Sometimes i wonder if he has any sense or his brain is replace with literal shit

And that Valkyrie >OF Thor only applies in Aaron's little world