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    Character » Thor appears in 8592 issues.

    Thor Odinson is the All-father of Asgard /God of Thunder, offspring of All-Father Odin & Elder-Goddess Gaea. Combining the powers of both realms makes him an elder-god hybrid and a being of no perceivable limits. Armed with his enchanted Uru hammer Mjolnir which helps him to channel his godly energies. The mightiest and the most beloved warrior in all of Asgard, a staunch ally for good and one of the most powerful beings in the multiverse/omniverse. Thor is also a founding member of the Avengers.

    Is Thor really a God?

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    Husk45

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    #1  Edited By Husk45

    Ok this might be a stupid question but is Thor Really a God? Because in order to be a god you have to be omnipotent, omniscient and be omnipresent and even thow Thor has the Odin Force and has the power of the   power of the Asgardia  Runes he is not.    
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    #2  Edited By The Mango
    @Husk45 said:
    " Because in order to be a god you have to be omnipotent, omniscient and be omnipresent    "
    Where did you get that idea?
     
    None of the Norse gods were any of these things.
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    #3  Edited By Emerald

    Gods such as Norse, Greek, and Roman mythology were not omni anything.

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    #4  Edited By agent9149

    yes thor is a *g*od

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    #5  Edited By Tesseract
    @Husk45 said:
    " Ok this might be a stupid question but is Thor Really a God? Because in order to be a god you have to be omnipotent, omniscient and be omnipresent and even thow Thor has the Odin Force and has the power of the   power of the Asgardia  Runes he is not.     "
    That is a definition of a GOD in some religions. In Greek, Roman and Norse religion good where not as someone here put it, omni anything, and also, you are looking for logical answers in comics which you really shouldn't do.
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    #6  Edited By DeathpooltheT1000

    Yes, he is.
    Omnipotence is a paradox also, that could neve happen.

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    #7  Edited By Primmaster64

    Not really. I always considered them like  aliens.

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    yes he is.

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    #9  Edited By Jayso4201

    GOD of thunder, greek and norse gods and such just controlled whatever it was they were supposed to be over or whatever.

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    #10  Edited By Fire-brand

    there is a difference between God and god. this debate is never a fun one.

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    #11  Edited By The New L

    To be honest I don't know. But if you were going buy the omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent thing then that means Beyonder, One Above All and Q from Star trek would be gods to. Heck Kyle Rayner after geting the power of Ion for the first time or Billy Batson when he got the powers of Shazam they would also count because when they got the powers for the first time they also has omnipotent, omniscient and they were omnipresent.  
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    #12  Edited By Theworldbreaker

    the gods from old mythos wer not omni anything like the other guy said where did you get that you have to be compleatly omnipotent? (that includs hte other omni stuff).

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    #13  Edited By Mr. Dead Pool

    Well technichally in some marvel stuff him and the Asgardians and all the other gods are extra-dimensional aliens with tech that is basically magic compared to even the most advanced races, and when they came to earth they were hailed as gods. But in regular Marvel continuity he is a god. They might use the magic-tech stuff in the movie but I don't really care it would still be good.

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    #14  Edited By TOMBSTONE999

    The definitions of god or gods is very subjective.  God is a title that is usually bestowed upon other beings by lesser beings.  Superman matches any of the old mythological gods in terms of power as does a great many other characters.  So yes Thor is a god according to the Norse definition of what a god is.

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    #15  Edited By Thor's hammmer

    the christian God's omniscents and omnipressence are both very questionable using the bible as reference but yes he is a god
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    #16  Edited By Theworldbreaker
    @TOMBSTONE999:
    coming from the guy who's name if flipped upside down woul start with "666"....lol nah jk jk man.
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    #17  Edited By mimic12

    Im probably going to get a lot of hate mail for this but Thor is not a god. He is a Asgardian who was worshiped buy the Nosemen and Vikings Kind of Like Chariots of the Gods.    
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    #18  Edited By roadbuster
    @DeathpooltheT1000 said:
    " Yes, he is. Omnipotence is a paradox also, that could neve happen. "
    That's a common misconception born out of gibberish thought experiments such as creating the unliftable rock and equivocation.
     
    "Omni" means "all" or "every" and "potence" here means "power" or "ability".  The monotheistic vision is of a god who possesses all powers and abilities that exist.  So if there is no power to create an unliftable rock, the monotheistic god would not possess that non-existent gibberish power.  This is completely in line with the meaning of "omniscient" or "omnipresence" which enable all knowledge or all presence... they do not grant presence to non-existent places or knowledge of non-existent knowledge.  Essentially, the monotheists ascribe their god the characteristic of omnipotence- accurately- because that vision possesses all possible powers (consistent with the description "almighty" - having the most or greatest powers not every conceivable power)... but armchair philosophers have equivocated that meaning of omnipotence with a phantom version ("creating the unliftable rock") which has never been applied to a mainstream religious deity.  It's not a particularly clever or novel paradox either on which to base the deconstruction of deity considering theologians have wrestled with such trite problems for over a   millennium without having their doctrine implode. 
     
    But to be concise about it, even if the paradox is true under some weird definition of the word omnipotence, there is no major deity who is described as having gibberish abilities - "to simultaneously exist and not exist" and equally nonsensical challenges.  More extensive, nonetheless concise, deconstruction of the paradox can be found on wikipedia.
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    #19  Edited By The Master X
    @mimic12:
    I totally agree with you dude.
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    #20  Edited By Fire-brand

    hmm, clearly the christian god is not omnipresent or he would have seen Cain murder Able instead of having to ask "where is your brother"

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    #21  Edited By roadbuster
    @Fire-brand said:
    " hmm, clearly the christian god is not omnipresent or he would have seen Cain murder Able instead of having to ask "where is your brother" "
    I don't know whether the biblical god is described as omnipresent to begin with, but either way, a rhetorical or Socratic question wouldn't be proof to the contrary. 
     
    When you see your child spill something and walk away it would not be abnormal to ask, "Did you spill something?" despite knowing they did.  The purpose of the question is not based on your lack of knowledge but in order to remind the child to clean their spill, spur a confession, or evaluate their honesty.
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    #22  Edited By The Master X
    @Fire-brand:
    Maybe God was testing Cain to see if he will tell the truth. From what I here on TBN the Christian God is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent.
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    #23  Edited By roadbuster
    @Husk45 said:
    " Ok this might be a stupid question but is Thor Really a God? Because in order to be a god you have to be omnipotent, omniscient and be omnipresent and even thow Thor has the Odin Force and has the power of the   power of the Asgardia  Runes he is not.     "
    I don't think power is the definition of godhood even by the Judaic standard.  There is the rule "you shall have no other gods before you"... which acknowledges that there are other "gods" which would be impossible if power was what defined a god in that context.  Instead, "god" means an object or being of worship... whether money, Baal,  oneself, or what not... above the one giving the rule.  Paul on Mars Hill talks about "the unknown god" in reference to the tradition of paying tribute to an unmarked alter as a catch all... so the concept of a lesser deity is not unfamiliar even using the omnipotence/Judaic context as your standard (of course, they also use the "one true" and "false god" distinction but that issue is self-resolving).
     
    By that standard, is Thor worshiped in contemporary times?  If he is, it is a small minority and he is a "small" god by that standard.  Of course, by that standard you can't take away the historical fact he was worshiped as a god at some point.
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    #24  Edited By Husk45
    @Primmaster64:
    I think so to.
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    #25  Edited By Lovingdamnation
    @Husk45: You dare question the godliness of a god? /thorvoice
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    #26  Edited By The Master X
    @mimic12:
    I like the Chariots of the Gods respons the best because that makes the most sense and is the most logical.
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    #27  Edited By Thor's hammmer

    Is the mesure of a God the scope of his power or how he chooses to wield that power?  
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    #28  Edited By Crom-Cruach
    @Thor's hammmer said:
    " Is the mesure of a God the scope of his power or how he chooses to wield that power?   "
    neither.
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    #29  Edited By Mike28

    I got to say this is a very interesting topic. But Im also going to say no Thor is not a god. just because he is worshiped as one dose not mean he is one.
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    #30  Edited By Husk45
    @Mike28:
    I dident Thor was a God ether I just wanted to know what different people thought. So thanks for the feed back.
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    #31  Edited By Larkin1388

    Being anything omni has nothing to do with Norse Mythology. He is a God.

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    #32  Edited By ~The Wanderer~

    Thor is not a God, but he may be a god.

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    #33  Edited By The Master X

    Webster's definition of God. 
     
    capitalized: the supreme or ultimate reality: as a: the Being perfect in power, wisdom, and goodness who is worshipped as creator and ruler of the universe bChristian Science: the incorporeal divine Principle ruling over all as eternal Spirit : infinite Mind
    2 : a being or object believed to have more than natural attributes and powers and to require human worship; specifically: one controlling a particular aspect or part of reality
    3 : a person or thing of supreme value
    4 : a powerful ruler
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    #34  Edited By Ry Fryy

    So by definition, he is.

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    #35  Edited By velle37

    No. 
     
    He is a figment of multitudes of imaginations........
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    #36  Edited By mimic12
    @The Master X: 
     If you were going by that logic the Beyonder, Q, Superman, Star Brand and others would be considered to be gods to. So in my point of view Thor is not a god. 
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    #37  Edited By Mike28

    Thor is not a god.
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    #38  Edited By Thor's hammmer

    yes he is
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    #39  Edited By mimic12

    I said it befor and I will say it again Chariots of the Gods.
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    #40  Edited By Husk45

    Whats Chariots of the Gods have to do with Thor?
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    #41  Edited By Adam Michaels

    In Ancient Mythologies, gods were as flawed as the mortals. They were as evil, unjust, jealous, and possessed other imperfect qualities and personalities. This is why they were such popular characters and their stories so compelling (as well as the stories they were involved in).
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    #42  Edited By Valkyrja

    I'm a bit of a Norse mythology nut, and the mythology of Thor and how it's presented in the modern day is what turned me onto comic books in the first place. That being said, Marvel Thor is one of the Aesir. The Aesir were the gods of Norse mythology, and often had powers and strength far greater than those of the children of Midgard. Does this make Thor a god? If you're a viking, then yes, definitely. If you don't worship him, than he counts as a mythological figure who has returned from an ancient, mythic realm to find that the children of Midgard no longer worship him. He still keeps his Asgardian powers, of course, so it could be argued either way. It's entirely based on perspective.
     
    I choose to think of Thor as a god simply because it puts him in his own superior category of badassery, but I can totally see where others come from when they say he's more of an "alien" figure. He comes from a different realm, is no longer worshiped (for the most part), and isn't human. "God" with a lowercase "g" is simply a term that can be applied to such a man.

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    #43  Edited By TOMBSTONE999
    @The Master X:  If this is the case then god didn't know whether he wold tell the truth or not.  After all we test to find out what we don't know.
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    #44  Edited By The Master X
    @Husk45: 

    Chariots of the Gods? Unsolved Mysteries of the Past is a book written in 1968 by Erich von Daniken. It involves the hypothesis that the technologies and religions of many ancient civilizations were given to them by space travelers who were welcomed as gods.
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    #45  Edited By Husk45
    @The Master X:
    So going by the logic of Chariots of the Gods Thor is not a god.
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    #46  Edited By TOMBSTONE999

    As far as I'm concerned all gods are mythical until proven otherwise.  Humans decide what attributes they want to attribute to these gods.  The Norsemen decided that their gods were going have certain jobs and powers and characteristics.  I don't know if anyone here has read Thor Disassembled but after reading that there is no doubt in my mind that the Thor represented in Marvel is intended to be the "god" Thor.  I didn't see anything alien...just supernatural events.  Fenris swallowing the sun, the odinforce personifying in the form of a child, Thor literally chopping at the strings of the Norns loom and Thor ripping out his eyes and literally dying, hanging himself on the tree, going to hel and resurrecting to attain omniscient.   None of this is remotely alien-like  in any way aliens have been presented in the Marvel Universe.
     
    No spaceships.....no advanced tech......just supernatural spells and magic.  Mythical god stuff.

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    #47  Edited By gambit987

    I consider them as inter-demensional beings but Odin created humankind. So technally they are I always considert the OAA the god of the marvel universe

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    #48  Edited By Kid_Omega_Prime

    Thor might be a God are not but we can all agree on one thing Thor rocks.
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    #49  Edited By ~The Wanderer~
    @gambit987 said:
    " I consider them as inter-demensional beings but Odin created humankind. So technally they are I always considert the OAA the god of the marvel universe "
    Is there any on-panel evidence for this or is it just something he claimed to have done?
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    #50  Edited By grimlock
    @Emerald: i agree. all the gods of various pantheons are more or less projections of human characteristics. Only God in monotheistic religions is omnipresent, omnipotent and omniscient

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