How Thor Loses his Hammer: Major Original Sin #7 SPOILERS

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#1 Edited by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

As the title suggests, there are major Original Sin #7 spoilers. If you don't want to see how Thor loses the ability to wield Mjolnir, don't open this spoiler tab. You've been warned. For those who don't mind the Internet's lack of secret keeping anymore, see below for how Thor becomes unworthy.

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#2 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

So Nick Fury says some stupid freaking words and Thor drops Mjolnir? What is it, some dirty secret, a magic spell, mind control?!! Ugh this is a cheap and tacky way to make Thor unworthy of wielding Mjolnir. Still, at least there's an outside reason for Thor's loss of ability to use Mjolnir now. Not that it makes this cheap PR gimmick stunt any easier to swallow.

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#3 Posted by phisigmatau (2093 posts) - - Show Bio

wow. terrible. wow. just terrible. thanks for the heads up.

This is so stupid, how can Nick Fury weak human self have any influence.

He's the biggest villian in Marvel and Shield is as good as hydra.

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#4 Posted by Squalleon (9994 posts) - - Show Bio

It only solidifies the notion that Fem-Thor is a gimmick. Spawning out from Original Sin is a fact alone.

Anyway I am more angry with what they have done to Nick Fury.

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#5 Posted by phisigmatau (2093 posts) - - Show Bio

but then again this can all be just a front that Thor is going along with

IDK

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#6 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio@New_World_Order@jayc1324@z3ro180@winter_kills

If any of you want an early heads up of why Thor isn't worthy of wielding Mjolnir anymore, the spoilers have already been released. Don't worry if you want to wait and read the issue, the images are in a spoiler block so you can't see them.

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#7 Posted by New_World_Order (14895 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger There is only two things I can get from that scan, either as you said he used some form of telepathy or magic to make Thor think about everything he's done, and make him believe he's not worthy of Mjolnir. Or he just flat out over did the Odin spell, which should be harder to even do seeing how Mjolnir is now imbued with Odin Force energy. Although I'm going to read the issue today, so I'll find out. I agree though extremely tacky, how is Thor going to even Get off the moon now, lol?

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#8 Posted by z3ro180 (8778 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Wait so he doesn't become unworthy in tenth realm ? I'll be back in five minutes with my reaction.

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#9 Posted by z3ro180 (8778 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: F£&k that is stupid, It would have been cool if Thor lost his arm and hammer in tenth realm for freeing the god looked away in that prison, or because he started a war. Anything would have been better than ''Hay Thor remember that time I wore your helmet in nouthing but a thong''.

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#10 Edited by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@New_World_Order: I'm inclined to believe it's the former myself. Making Thor forget about everything he's done is at least a slightly plausible, if not ridiculous, way of removing Thor's ability to wield Mjolnir. I don't think The Watcher would be able to overdo Odin's spell on the hammer myself though The Watcher does know secrets I guess.

@z3ro180 said:

@lvenger: F£&k that is stupid, It would have been cool if Thor lost his arm and hammer in tenth realm for freeing the god looked away in that prison, or because he started a war. Anything would have been better than ''Hay Thor remember that time I wore your helmet in nouthing but a thong''.

I thought Thor would lose the ability to lose Mjolnir after his actions in The Tenth Realm too but nope, it's Aaron's deus ex machina FTW. It's such a shame to see a great writer reduced to a measly parlour trick as a segway into his next Thor storyline.

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#11 Edited by HaveAtThee (1223 posts) - - Show Bio

Stay classy, Marvel. Man talk about butchering a character coming off his best solo title run in years. I really would like to attend their "creator summits" and see how much pot these guys smoke.

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#12 Posted by z3ro180 (8778 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Don't get me wrong I'm looking forward to seeing thor kick all kinds of ass with his bitching robot arm and jarnbjorn it's just like you said a cheap Segway into his next seris.

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#13 Edited by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@haveatthee said:

Stay classy, Marvel. Man talk about butchering a character coming off his best solo title run in years. I really would like to attend their "creator summits" and see how much pot these guys smoke.

Tell me about it, Thor: God of Thunder was one of Marvel's best series and my personal favourite Marvel title. Now, they've shot themselves in the foot by having this ridiculous loss of Thor's ability to wield Mjolnir and a stupidly dumb PR stunt to try and appeal to female readers when all they're doing is putting a female in the role of a definitive male superhero. It's just absurd that Marvel think this is what the fans want. Not to mention that the treatment of Thor is disrespectful on a huge scale.

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#14 Posted by Omega Ray Jay (8418 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh, that kinda sucks :/

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#15 Edited by jayc1324 (26432 posts) - - Show Bio

That's BS. Cmon Aaron, you can do better than that. What words could make Thor unworthy?? Thor god of thunder was am absolutely amazing series, its done for this crap? This whole unworthy Thor thing is already off to a horrible start. The fact that there isn't a good reason for him losing his hammer makes the whole thing seem wrong, and not worth my time.

Thor is just having a crappy time recently. He gets his ass kicked by his sister, loses his hammer over nothing, his awesome series is canceled.. What about this does marvel think is good??

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#16 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@jayc1324 said:

That's BS. Cmon Aaron, you can do better than that. What words could make Thor unworthy?? Thor god of thunder was am absolutely amazing series, its done for this crap? This whole unworthy Thor thing is already off to a horrible start. The fact that there isn't a good reason for him losing his hammer makes the whole thing seem wrong, and not worth my time.

I did call it you know. This really is a contrived reason for Thor to lose the ability to use his hammer. Something that Aaron's series has done an exceptionally good job showing why Thor is worthy of Mjolnir and this is a setback for everything Aaron has worked for.

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#17 Posted by Spidey_Jackson (6359 posts) - - Show Bio

How anti climatic.

Beata

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#18 Posted by jayc1324 (26432 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: I'm speechless right now, what could Nick have possibly said? Is Thor really that mentally sensitive that he loses thousands of years of being worthy over this? Everything just looks like it was set up for this to happen to Thor now.

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#20 Posted by BullPR (6113 posts) - - Show Bio

The quality of some Marvel movies made read more comics these last years.

Well, I guess I'll come back (again) in 4-5 years.

What a shame.

However, luckily, I found this website now, so if things get better I will know it sooner this time.

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#21 Posted by SOG7dc (11368 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger:

Man o man that is poorly done. I thought for sure it would have been some giant moral conflict (Thor's lack of faith from the Gorr arc would have been perfect) to. Make him lose mjolnir, but having nick whisper something and then not even having the confidence to allow the reader to know just what was said? That's bad form. I'm totally disappointed by this. Also, the "what didst thou say?" Line was almost comical.

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#22 Edited by Experio (18215 posts) - - Show Bio

From having one of the best titles, to providing poor reasoning on why he can't wield a hammer he has been worthy of carrying for years, and to soon be replaced by a female.

Massive steps taken to the wrong direction.

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#23 Posted by deactivated-5c9535a734784 (2578 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh man this looks frigging terrible. I can't even entertain the thought of Thor being unworthy but they could of done it in a better way. I really need to pick up the Thor series and at least have some good memories of the true god of thunder.

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#24 Posted by coolcat4 (852 posts) - - Show Bio

what if fury is revealing something to thor from his time in the tenth realm that thor wasnt aware of making him feel so bad thats why he says what didst thou say

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#25 Edited by drgnx (3973 posts) - - Show Bio

"Odin put a spell on you to make you blonde"

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#26 Posted by phisigmatau (2093 posts) - - Show Bio

@drgnx said:

"Odin put a spell on you to make you blonde"

HAHAHAH

another one i read somewhere was

"Your daddy never loved you"

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#27 Edited by jayc1324 (26432 posts) - - Show Bio

@sog7dc: Yeah I also found Thor screaming WHAT DIDST THOU SAY to be hilarious. It didn't seem like a serious moment at all and kind of made Thor just look stupid

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#28 Posted by jayc1324 (26432 posts) - - Show Bio

I just got done reading original son #7, and it just made it even worse. Its quite dumb how the whole thing was done so nonchalantly. Like its everyday that nick fury says the magic words to freak Thor out and make him lose him hammer. Not only did this not happen in Thor's series, but it happened by nick fury, a character vastly unimportant to Thor and his world. I expected the moment when Thor lost his worthiness to be big and special, this didn't do it justice at all.

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#29 Edited by Winter_Kills (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

Stay classy, Marvel. Man talk about butchering a character coming off his best solo title run in years. I really would like to attend their "creator summits" and see how much pot these guys smoke.

For real. Whatever they're smoking, I don't want any. Taking not only one- but two of their iconic, legendary characters- Thor, & Cap- & replacing them? It's worse with Thor though, & the explanation for it is complete BS & feels TOTALLY forced. What could be possibly shown to Thor to make him feel so unworthy? Everything that Thor has been through, over the decades, the centuries- all the hardships, everything that proved him worthy, time & time again- every challenge he faced- they're underplaying Thor's immeasurable will & courage! Shame on you for that, Marvel. After an amazing, fantastic run, when Thor is finally getting respect in film & comics- when he's become a household name(even my grandma knows who Thor is!) when we're in the middle of a Thor renaissance that hasn't been since Simonson- & then they pull this? Smart move, Marvel. Way to go, Luther!! They should call the new book "All-New Thor: Goddess of Identity Theft". Words can't describe the displeasure I have at Marvel right now. Call me when it's over & the REAL, ONE TRUE Thor comes back. It just sucks that it looks like they're gonna drag this "Femme-Thor"' farce out...

(BTW, cool avatar & screen name.)

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I just got done reading original son #7, and it just made it even worse. Its quite dumb how the whole thing was done so nonchalantly. Like its everyday that nick fury says the magic words to freak Thor out and make him lose him hammer. Not only did this not happen in Thor's series, but it happened by nick fury, a character vastly unimportant to Thor and his world. I expected the moment when Thor lost his worthiness to be big and special, this didn't do it justice at all.

I agree; it couldn't be more forced. I'm like, "FU Old Nick"!(& when I say that, I'm a fan of Ol' Nick from way back, I just hate what they've done to his character.) And not happening in the main series, but in an event, is always a jarring move. I hate the whole idea completely, but they could have at least tried to make a moving, interesting story out of it, a lil' bit of effort & creativity. I feel that once the sales go down from the pr controversy boost, they'll have to restore the ONE & ONLY Thor to his former glory.

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#30 Edited by arthurkerr (2207 posts) - - Show Bio

Well on a good note the story I been waiting a life time on is going on in the new 52 sweet that rocks.

I have some back issues to get so lots of catch up reading this rocks some kewl mojo. So oh and that is to funny Thor loses his worth to some whisper. I bet he said. Psst I love you Thor.... He was so shocked he just dropped the hammer and walked away lmao.

oh well on good news we still have dc new 52.

I mean wow but poor Thor i mean that is pretty bad and so bad its kind of funny.

The clone saga all over again but only this time it is Thor.

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#31 Posted by God_Spawn (43377 posts) - - Show Bio
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#32 Posted by Saren (27938 posts) - - Show Bio

Calling it: the secret is that Thor has unwittingly been a Skrull since his return.

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#33 Posted by Dernman (26221 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: Original Sin has been stupid from top to bottom I wouldn't even know where to begin to start.

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#34 Posted by iaconpoint (1491 posts) - - Show Bio

I didn't feel at all bad about dropping Thor, which was my last marvelnow! title. Now I triple don't feel bad about it. What an idiotic piece of crap. Every time one marvelnow! character whispers to another, a kitten dies somewhere.

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#35 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@winter_kills: Couldn't have said it better myself mate.

@dernman said:

@lvenger: Original Sin has been stupid from top to bottom I wouldn't even know where to begin to start.

Aaron is so much better when he's focusing on single characters for the most part.

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#36 Posted by Dernman (26221 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:
@dernman said:

@lvenger: Original Sin has been stupid from top to bottom I wouldn't even know where to begin to start.

Aaron is so much better when he's focusing on single characters for the most part.

I could be wrong but I think many of these ideas are just not his. He's just putting it together for them.

The thing with Fury, Winter Soldier, Thor, the freaking eye.

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#37 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman said:

@lvenger said:
@dernman said:

@lvenger: Original Sin has been stupid from top to bottom I wouldn't even know where to begin to start.

Aaron is so much better when he's focusing on single characters for the most part.

I could be wrong but I think many of these ideas are just not his. He's just putting it together for them.

The thing with Fury, Winter Soldier, Thor, the freaking eye.

I think you're right. The original concept came from Brubaker and other Marvel writers have added their ideas to it too. This is like a bad cooking pot of story ideas where different writers contribute to the broth. And the final product is not a good one. Pardon the metaphor but it felt appropriate at the time.

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#38 Posted by RisingBean (9837 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@New_World_Order: I'm inclined to believe it's the former myself. Making Thor forget about everything he's done is at least a slightly plausible, if not ridiculous, way of removing Thor's ability to wield Mjolnir. I don't think The Watcher would be able to overdo Odin's spell on the hammer myself though The Watcher does know secrets I guess.

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@lvenger: F£&k that is stupid, It would have been cool if Thor lost his arm and hammer in tenth realm for freeing the god looked away in that prison, or because he started a war. Anything would have been better than ''Hay Thor remember that time I wore your helmet in nouthing but a thong''.

I thought Thor would lose the ability to lose Mjolnir after his actions in The Tenth Realm too but nope, it's Aaron's deus ex machina FTW. It's such a shame to see a great writer reduced to a measly parlour trick as a segway into his next Thor storyline.

Money says Marvel mandated it. As it is Marvel has screwed up Thor, Fury, Steve Rogers, Wolverine. Yeah, think I'm gonna take a few years off.

As far as I'm concerned Marvel as a whole can take a long walk off a short pier.

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#39 Edited by Squalleon (9994 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: @lvenger Out of curiosity, have you read Bleeding Cool's "the great Cyclops conspiracy" although it is full-blown speculation, it reminded me that Cyclops has TWO evil entities in his mind, Apocalypse and The Void. So that could be why he is so morally ambiguous lately. And if thats the reason, I have to admit, his mind is as strong as f??k.

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#40 Edited by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@god_spawn: @lvenger Out of curiosity, have you read Bleeding Cool's "the great Cyclops conspiracy" although it is full-blown speculation, it reminded me that Cyclops has TWO evil entities in his mind, Apocalypse and The Void. So that could be why he is so morally ambiguous lately. And if thats the reason, I have to admit, his mind is as strong as f??k.

I have not but even if that were to be the case, I still don't see why that absolves Cyclops of all the blame for his actions.

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#41 Edited by Winter_Kills (1373 posts) - - Show Bio

@dernman said:

@lvenger said:
@dernman said:

@lvenger: Original Sin has been stupid from top to bottom I wouldn't even know where to begin to start.

Aaron is so much better when he's focusing on single characters for the most part.

I could be wrong but I think many of these ideas are just not his. He's just putting it together for them.

The thing with Fury, Winter Soldier, Thor, the freaking eye.

I agree. Aaron had been freakin' slaying it on Thor up until this point- then they do this move, & it isn't even in Thor's own book? A major event to him, that doesn't occur within the pages of his own book, done by a character he's had very little to do with over the years.(The main thing I can think of is Nick setting up the Sigurd Jarlson id for him.) I feel some editorial mandate is involved, could be wrong on that- but its all done to make way for "The All-New Thor: Goddess of ID Theft". And the way Bucky & Fury have been handled has been very disjointed & weird also.

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@winter_kills: Couldn't have said it better myself mate.

@dernman said:

@lvenger: Original Sin has been stupid from top to bottom I wouldn't even know where to begin to start.

Aaron is so much better when he's focusing on single characters for the most part.

Yeah, this event book just shows that. Characters like Bucky, & their interactions with other characters, like I mentioned above, are just weird, inconsistent & jarring. I feel like its an event that's just made to pave the way for the whole "Avengers NOW!" initiative. And they do this to Thor like it's merely an aside? It's all BS. Aaron's gonna have a lot of work cut out for him to make things right. ALOT of work. I've been with Thor through the good & bad(pre-Onslaught years were pretty rough, before Jurgens/Romita relaunched after Heroes Reborn & saved Thor again), & this is BAD. I mean freakin' Clone Saga bad. One More Day bad. I can't help but feel they're throwing out the baby with the bathwater on this one. One minute they're doing great things with Thor, achieving the greatness he should have, the next they slap him down, & slap all of us in the face as well. All so they can pander to the media with a controversial PR move to make themselves look so progressive & pc, when jokes are being made about it everywhere, & fans are getting pissed, with good reason. Like I said in another post, shame on you Marvel, for doing this to one of your most iconic, culturally important & legendary characters at the cusp of greatness. And shame on you Marvel, for doing this to the fans. This is garbage.

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#42 Edited by Allaric (75 posts) - - Show Bio
@lvenger said:

@dernman said:

@lvenger said:
@dernman said:

@lvenger: Original Sin has been stupid from top to bottom I wouldn't even know where to begin to start.

Aaron is so much better when he's focusing on single characters for the most part.

I could be wrong but I think many of these ideas are just not his. He's just putting it together for them.

The thing with Fury, Winter Soldier, Thor, the freaking eye.

I think you're right. The original concept came from Brubaker and other Marvel writers have added their ideas to it too. This is like a bad cooking pot of story ideas where different writers contribute to the broth. And the final product is not a good one. Pardon the metaphor but it felt appropriate at the time.

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Meet "Ghor the Barbarian" .... slower , dumber , bloodier than you have ever seen him !!

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Follow the "Mighty Ghor" , no longer burdened by armor or hammer , Midgards mightiest hero will defend the ... errr fight for the ... errr just fight actually ... but don't worry your hero is in good hands !! What !? I promise ... no really !!

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#43 Posted by Squalleon (9994 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger said:

@squalleon said:

@god_spawn: @lvenger Out of curiosity, have you read Bleeding Cool's "the great Cyclops conspiracy" although it is full-blown speculation, it reminded me that Cyclops has TWO evil entities in his mind, Apocalypse and The Void. So that could be why he is so morally ambiguous lately. And if thats the reason, I have to admit, his mind is as strong as f??k.

I have not but even if that were to be the case, I still don't see why that absolves Cyclops of all the blame for his actions.

Well, I guess it depends how you look at it, its like if Superman was influenced by Red K to became "evil", he was "evil" but he did it unwillingly because something was messing with his brain but managing to maintain his sanity and be kind of an ambiguous hero is an achievement considering how strong are both the entities in his mind. And he also needed the power of the phoenix to actually go full blown crazy, that makes three entities influencing his actions.

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#44 Posted by Lvenger (36338 posts) - - Show Bio

@winter_kills: Ugh tell me about it, it's one of the fakest ways to create a so called prominent female superhero by piggybacking off the legacy of one of Marvel's premier male heroes. Not to mention that it makes no sense whatsoever and pi$$es off fans of the original character unnecessarily, thus alienating old fans in a vain attempt to bring in new temporary ones. What thought processes were going through Marvel's executives at the time that made them think this PR stunt was a good idea? It spits in the face of Aaron's good work during God Butcher and Godbomb, which I was reading last night, and makes all that development, characterisation and understanding of Thor amount to much less now. I still don't know whether this was Aaron's idea or a higher up's pot brained scheme.

@allaric said:

@lvenger said:

@dernman said:

@lvenger said:
@dernman said:

@lvenger: Original Sin has been stupid from top to bottom I wouldn't even know where to begin to start.

Aaron is so much better when he's focusing on single characters for the most part.

I could be wrong but I think many of these ideas are just not his. He's just putting it together for them.

The thing with Fury, Winter Soldier, Thor, the freaking eye.

I think you're right. The original concept came from Brubaker and other Marvel writers have added their ideas to it too. This is like a bad cooking pot of story ideas where different writers contribute to the broth. And the final product is not a good one. Pardon the metaphor but it felt appropriate at the time.

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And it's going to get even worse

Oh yeah that aptly demonstrates what ****y hot water Thor is in now -_-

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#45 Edited by arthurkerr (2207 posts) - - Show Bio

True it is like they gave up trying and let Lisa the four year old have a try at it.

Look Daddy Thor is a princes.

Oh very nice what happened to the real Thor.

Oh daddy he was told he would look good in a dress and he just did not feel worthy.

Well is that not just cute and priceless lets just roll with that shall we gang anything for my princess Thor.

http://warren-peace.blogspot.com/2012/06/neverending-fray-and-so-mulching-begins.html

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#47 Posted by Spiderman1997 (2353 posts) - - Show Bio

@lvenger: What are you stupid ? This is not shooting yourself in the foot. This is shooting yourself straight in thr goddamn face.

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#48 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm, why don't we all wait and see what it was Fury told him before freaking out.

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#49 Edited by Spiderman1997 (2353 posts) - - Show Bio

@theacidskull: "And the next episode of how to make yourself look like pot-smoking idiots, we're going to see Marvel making Hulk pink and get his power from love in his brand new Disney show, Hulking Out Hearts!"

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