Quick FYI
- Methos Words of Wisdom: Spoilers are not necessarily set in stone. The spoiler people can only report what they have heard or seen. Unless something has been filmed, or contracts signed etc, and is a definite, then nothing is really a definite.
- Spoilers are not always gospel.
- Just because design work is done does not mean we will see the results on screen in the short-term - for an example see a post here mentioning that early design thought/work was being done on Davros in the Mill long before production on Season 2 had finished.
2009 SPECIALS AND SERIES 5 SPOILER SUMMARY
- Filming for the 2009 specials will commence on 19th January 2009 (DWM #403, post).
- Filming will continue to May, with editing etc. in June, July and August. RTD expects his last day to be in September
- This tallies with previous information (which also said that S5 filming would resume August 2009).
- Regarding DT, the original position was that DT would start filming after Hamlet (ending 10th January 2009).
- RTD says he is "hopeful" that DT will be able to start filming on the 19th January (and they'll be careful with him!) (BBC News review).
- RTD's hope looks well-founded - as of 3rd January, DT was back rehearsing and performing in Hamlet (Novello Theatre). At present his return will be assessed on a day-to-day basis. (RSC Press Release 3 Jan'09)
DWM #400 has further information - RTD (production notes) says "we've already cast two huge parts, which had us all skipping with glee". RTD also says, "even though pre-production won't officially start for a while, the writing has started, and we're already having detailed conversations with the design department, so you could say that work has begun......"
Elsewhere in DWM #400 it is said that pre-production starts in November with shooting starting mid-January. In DWM #402, RTD confirms preproduction for the specials starts on 24th November.
Format
- It is confirmed (RTD, DWM #378; Steven Moffat interview 24 Jul) that there are, in total, five specials to appear between the end of series 4 and the start of Steven Moffat's reign.
- There is an Easter 2009 Special (Julie Gardner in the Telegraph)
- There is a Christmas 2009 Special (Julie Gardner in the Telegraph)
- There is a special to be shown "in early 2010" (BBC Press Release 29 Oct 2008)
- We have nothing from the production team indicating when the other special will be shown.
- Possible plans - The original plan was Easter 2009, Christmas 2009, Easter 2010. After a Halloween special was briefly considered, this was changed (due to time constraints) to Christmas 2009, New Years Day 2010, Easter 2010 (leading directly into series 5) (RTD, p. 203 of "The Writers Tale").
- The four specials are all an hour in length (SFX #176, RTD interview, reported in this post)
- No plans for HD at present (going HD eventually is inevitable and the Mill are not a problem).
Locations and sets
- RTD says each special is very different and the locations are very different (SFX #176, RTD interview)
- It's reported in July '08 that one of the Specials may be taking place partially or entirely in a location outside the UK.
- One rumour is that all the filming might be outside the UK with studio and pickups in Upper Boat. The first will definitely be shot abroad
- RTD confirms in DWM #403 that passports will be needed for filming 4.15
- The first special will be filmed abroad. RTD says, "It's going to be quite exotic. I can't tell you where, but we've got four days filming abroad, to give it a bit of size and a new feel to it."
STATESIDE?
- The News of the World (Aug '08) reports that two specials will be filmed in America, supposedly to raise DW's profile stateside. The specials will apparently also feature a "big-name" American female assistant.
- SyFy Portal Syfy Portal say they had already been following leads on DW filming in the US and suggest the main motivator is financial.
- It has since confirmed that his source also suggests filming abroad involving at least the Second Unit and going West rather than East (and possibly moves to show DW sooner after UK broadcast in the US).
- The potential SAG strike in the US suggests that any US filming would have to be limited to establishing shots and plates but nothing with actors (which means a major shoot is probably out)
NORTH AFRICA?
- Latest word on location shooting - it's happening (72lf) and it looks like Tunisia (post - the location previously mentioned in this post - see "4.15" section). The location is standing in for an alien planet (post, post). RTD confirms this, that the shooting will be in January - and that the location is standing in for Gallifrey.
- The Daily Star claims that one of the specials will be set in Egypt
CONSOLE ROOM
- A poster reports that as far as he knows the console room is getting a bit of a makeover for the specials, and the console is being rebuilt. "Not changed, but just refreshed. I was also privvy to a conversation about the possibility of "green screening" sections of it to give the illusion of extra rooms and doors off it."
- Rich Johnston, "Lying in the Gutters" suggests that the TARDIS console room will be getting a new desktop theme for 2010.
- Ed Thomas at the 'Wales and the Universe' presentation at Cardiff Millennium centre says that there are no plans to show new TARDIS rooms (though the design department are often to be found doodling little illustrations of what other rooms might look like)
Casting
- Ace (Sophie Aldred)?
- Brian Blessed may make his return to the show
- Agynes Deyn is reported as being in one of the specials. However it's also been reported that Agynes herself "knows nothing about it and doesn't know what they're talking about".
- Rumour on IMDB that Bad Girls star Alicia Eyo has been offered a companion role for one of the specials; a role that may play into full-time companion for series 5
- John Simm as The Master - see "Return of the Master" episode
- Georgia Moffet (Jenny, aka the Doctor's Daughter) is reported to have confirmed her return in a special; The Sun). Note this uses quoting for a script for the 2009 specials:
- Young Teen: Doctor! Where are you going? (Hears the cries of the Doctors Daughter). That said, Georgia was tight-lipped (but hesitant?) at "Bad Wolf".
- Regarding Jenny returning in the specials, RTD says ""I've no plans. But who knows what Steven might do?" (DWM #400)
- On the series 4 Soundtrack, and for what its worth, Murray Gold mentions a possible return for Jenny in the liner notes.
- Jennifer Saunders is reported to be cast in a special, playing the Tenth Doctor after a body-swap
- Albert Finney is reported to be one of the two big names (mentioned by RTD, DWM #400) cast for the 2009 specials
- Patrick Stewart as the "Meddling Monk"
- Noma Dumezweni, who played UNIT Captain Asira Mogambo ('Turn Left') is back! Whether for one/all specials or series 5 is unconfirmed (She is filming for one week in January with Graeme Harper (post) - so a special, but not the Easter one?
- Hugh Laurie is considering an offer for a guest part in one of the later specials.
- Michael Jayston (known to the We as the Valeyard) is in talks to appear in one of the later specials, along with Patrick Stewart, Hugh Laurie and Andy Serkis
Settings, Plots, Heroes and Villains
- RTD on the Specials "They're all very different. They're all very colourful. They hit the ground running. [...] There are at least two alien planets, maybe more.
- [choosing words carefully] I would say...how can I put this? Two new monsters...no, three! Yes, three.
- The Doctor is travelling alone. Each story will have a different companion [...] some great guest casting...and it won't always be a young girl." (DWM #400)
- Characters and storylines from series 4 will not necessarily be picked up for the specials (Julie Gardner, Telegraph)
- A poster reports that the specials for 2009 will feature an older 10th Doc towards the end of his life cycle, which will accommodate a time gap which could allow DT to return for a film or a special once-off
- Winston Churchill (for specials or series 5) - reputedly TV people asked for his removal from "Revenge of the Judoon" so he could be kept in reserve. (Times Online courtesy this post; and hence to the Sun)
- Sea Devils. "The return of The Sea Devils is definitely planned and all preliminary work has long since been concluded."
- Checks are done to ensure that various story-lines on TV and the books do not overlap. So chances are none of the enemies from the books will feature in the specials.
- Doctor Who books to be published in 2009 include "Prisoner of the Daleks", "The Slitheen Excursion" and "Judgement of the Judoon"
- Further books to be released (Sept '09) "The Taking of Chelsea 426" (featuring The Sontarans), "The Krillitane Storm" and "Autonomy" (featuring Autons)
- Donna (Catherine Tate) and Wilf (Bernard Cribbins) over the last three specials, together with the Master). CT says in DWM #399 that she would have done another series if she had been asked and regarding a return "anything is possible". This rumour has also made The Sun (8 Sept'08).
- FWIW, CT in the Radio Times (6 Dec'08) said that she thought it would be very hard to bring Donna back (and she'd rather Donna was alive even if her only interest in life were new Pringle flavours)
- In the series 4 boxset commentaries, DT requests that the written (but not filmed) 'Shadow Proclamation' scene in The Stolen Earth, featuring monsters from throughout the series, appear in one of the specials (DenOfGeek)
- Rumour of the Brig appearing in a special? Suggested to be the same one as the Sea Devils
- Return of Captain Jack? John Barrowman is reported to star in the last two specials and in the first two episodes of series 5. There is also a chance of the Torchwood team also appearing. It's also been suggestsed that most of the familiar characters will be back for the finales, not just Jack and not in a companion type role. Note that this does not necessarily contradict RTD saying no companions accompany the Doctor and that RTD said that Moffat requested the end of the specials to be written in such a way as to lead into series 5.
- RTD: "We’ve got a young female companion at Easter, and then a much older woman next Christmas – someone in her fifties or sixties." (Times)
- The 2009 Christmas special apparently require a lot of snow machines (RTD, TND podcast)
Return of the Master
- The Master to return: Instead of a cameo in series 4, plans were changed to bring the Master in a much bigger way in the specials.
- Reports that the Master will return with an unexpected ally.
- Harriet Jones is not dead (post)
- Harriet Jones is in league with the Master (and was at the time of "The Stolen Earth")
- Someone else was in the room when Harriet spoke to the Children of Time and it was Harriet that picked up the Master's ring
- The above two facts play into the specials along with the Osterhagen key
- Something in the specials fulfils what the Ninth Doctor said about HJ's terms as prime minister heralding a golden age
- In the commentaries for the series 4 box-set, "RTD reveals that Harriet Jones died in The Stolen Earth despite Phil Collinson's protestations that she lived"
- On the other hand, in this Telegraph article, Penelope Wilton doesn't necessarily agree Harriet is dead: 'However, in a recent episode, her character was "exterminated" by the Daleks. "It was fabulous fun," she says. "And I got to sacrifice myself to save the world. Though when you are exterminated on Doctor Who, chances are that you are not dead at all. I could simply have gone to another galaxy. You never know – I might make a return."'
- John Simm in an interview with the Times says, “I'm the Master. Simple as that. I don't want to be Doctor Who. I might be the Master again... I'm not allowed to say.”
- RTD gives information from another forum that there will be two regenerations in the 2009 Specials. Both The Doctor and The Master will regenerate.
- The Doctor and the Master will regenerate at the same time - neither wins, neither loses, but the how and why are a closely guarded secret. John is reported as telling a source, "I'm David's Master... I think if he goes, I should too... the thought of us being inseparable even at the end, when we die, is a great idea. It's how it should be!"
Patrick Stewart
- Patrick Stewart has reportedly been approached to appear in either the specials or Series 5. posts
- Reportedly there will be no facial prosthetics or heavy make up;there's a "killer" costume; Patrick is keen to play someone who is "not the good guy for a change" (although the character is "not all bad"); it's a significant enough character to be either moved, removed or revived later, depending on his availability; and he's keen to work again with David Tennant and "have the relationship evolve"; PS has been officially approached to play a "significant role" in either one of the specials or Series 5. The part is that of a Time Lord. The rumour is that the role could be that of the Meddling Monk.
- This poster has since heard on good authority that Patrick Stewart has been asked to play the Monk.
- Reports that Patrick Stewart is still very interested; nothing is certain yet and his schedule does not fit in with the filming right now, but he is willing to accommodate if possible. If he can't manage it, the character is likely to be dropped from the special and appear in series 5 instead, If PS does appear it will be one of the last specials, possibly the last.
- Story picked up by The Daily Star and The Sun (who combined PS with the potential Dalek two-part opener to series 5). Also the The Sunday Express.
- RTD also suggested he knew the Tenth Doctor's second last line (The Writers Tale).
- In a talk (7 Nov'08) at the National theatre, RTD was asked about DT's regeneration. RTD said that he couldn't really talk about the regeneration without...talking about the regeneration (and hence the end of his final show), but that would be different but similar to previous regenerations.
- As to specifically how... RTD said that the 8 year-old viewer is now used to regenerations standing up (with the implication being that that would be how DT would go)
- Also RTD has Ten's last words tentatively worked out but he hasn't started writing the final special as yet.
SERIES 5 - facts and rumours
- RTD leaving and Moffat taking over for series 5, news broken by the Guardian, also see BBC Press Release.
- The job of producer for series 5 is being advertised by the BBC: contract to run from April 2009 until June 2010.
- Rough ideas were being put together for series 5 "as we speak" (May 2008,)
- SM was writing the first script in July '08 (Comic Con 24 Jul,). Apparently he started in January! (email from RTD to Benjamin Cook, printed in The Times)
- Ed Thomas has read this first script and describes it as "very special"
- According to an interview in Death Ray (Aug '08) with Steven Moffat (summarised here), SM expects to write 5 or 6 episodes. However, given RTD never managed to predict how many he would write, that could easily change (he refused to be drawn in a previous interview (SM interview, 24 Jul)
- SM has completed the first episode of the season, it was "the easy part, as I'd written it in my head many times before."
- SM has a broad overarching plan for the season that he's currently refining.
- He has had emails from would-be DW writers, including some from "a few quite surprising names".
- As of the end of 2008 scripts for episodes 1 and 4 have been written - Matt Smith has read them (Matt Smith's extended interview around 4:00;). They are presumably Moffats - Matt in commenting on them talks about how SM is "a brilliant writer" and adds "a funny writer"
- Mark Gatiss gave a talk on TV and film horror that had influenced him at Nottingham's Broadway Cinema. He confirmed that he has been approached to write for Series 5 (though nothing else - he said in so many words "I know nothing")
- The Scotsman report Mark Gatiss as "busy writing episodes of the next full season of Doctor Who, for an as yet un-cast (or so he says) Doctor"
- Skins writer Jack Thorne is apparently down to write for Series 5
- Gaiman is still on the cards and has been asked to prepare two different ideas. Paul Cornell is likely too...(post) "And I'll confirm the Gaiman and Cornell thing"
- One of the ideas Gaiman is provisionally working on is the Ice Warrior story
- The poster now reports the Gaiman/Ice Warriors/"Faces in the Dust" is not happening.
- This is confirmed by Neil Gaiman in his blog (quoted in this post) which states that he is not writing a Doctor Who episode called "Faces in the Dust". However he is NOT denying anything else about Doctor Who (or confirming anything, other than dinners with Moffat)
- When asked if he'd be writing for Steven Moffat, Paul Cornell said "Way too soon to say" (NewCON convention, Oct'08,)
PLOTS/STORYLINES:
- "THEY'RE BACK"... apparently. We don't yet know what "They" are (assuming SM wasn't just looking for a strong opening line!) (Steven Moffat, DWM 397)
- SM confirms that there will not be a series of "Blink"-type stories, "You couldn't have a whole series like that [...] You can't have that as the first episode. It's just too grim. So it's different contemplating it from this position, very, very different." The series will also continue to embrace a wide range of tones and genres, Moffat said. Rather than adapting the show to his particular writing style, he looks forward to experimenting with different voices to maintain the show's variety. SM also looks forward to "get[ting] to write episodes that I wouldn't normally write, that wouldn't be expected of me." (Moffat interview, ScifiWire)
- SM has said (Death Ray #15, Aug '08, summarised here) he thinks the Doctor works best when solving problems rather than fighting armies, that the Doctor has always been a sexy, flirty character, albeit one who doesn't pursue love interests. Also...
- It makes no sense, especially when you look at what I was praised for...They'd say "It will be great when Moffat takes over, because there won't be so much romance, there won't be all that soapy stuff, there won't be all this comedy..." But I do all those things, even more than Russell does! And I've got the record for gay jokes.
- Don't despair of returning monsters in the Moff's reign; "Steven talked about the future in terms of... well, to the extent that I said 'Don't tell me any more!' I want to find out as a viewer. I was even surprised, because I was half-expecting there to be a No Old Monsters rule under The Moff. But no. So that felt good." (RTD, A Writers Tale)
- "Zygons. Series 5. Apparently." RTD adds that there will be a zygon companion hiding in human form.
- Mark Gatiss has been approached to write for Series 5
Supporting Cast
- Kylie to return? Old rumours from early 2008 : (post 1,post 2, Yahoo Australia Lifestyle News)
- Negotiations in train to get back Alex Kingston (River Song) and Georgina Moffett (Jenny) for series 5?.
- When asked (Oct'08) when she would be coming back, Alex Kingston said there were no plans
- Tom Baker (unknown role)- This has since made the Sky TV website
- Lalla Ward (Unknown Role, though High President Romana has been hinted by RTD)
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