@chimeroid: Only the jobber Strauss Fate and only when they were weakened.
true, but, it was still Desaad
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@chimeroid: Only the jobber Strauss Fate and only when they were weakened.
true, but, it was still Desaad
The list is too long to begin on really, because the only thing that makes Thanos such a threat is his tendency to get his hands on horrendously powerful trinkets left behind by other people. Take that away and you are left with another large purple brick of the Superman category.
You don't know much about Thanos, do you?
@zangetsusama01: Can you point me to where it was stated that most of loses have been avatars
Also Could you point out which ones are Avatars here (http://imgur.com/a/ouWE9)
You don't know much about Thanos, do you?
I know alot of his fans like to talk him up to a level he doesn't actually live on
@batman-13: :i dont have the scans on hand since im on my laptop however desad was moving around pretending to be darkseid and darkseid tell him he knows of desad impersonating him. the other one is a monologue if i aint wrong but gimme a few hours and i'll see if i can find them for you. darkseid sat in the source wall for a long time sending out avatars to represent him. i just dont have the desad one sorry maybe its on his respect thread.
http://comicvine.gamespot.com/darkseid/4005-2349/forums/darkseid-respect-thread-1505684/
also dont forget the true darkseid was never shown until final crisis when he fell to earth which started throwing dc into chaos on a grand scale.
Too many things to reply to so I'll just talk.
Ultron one-shot Superman? Lol kindly turn that the other way.
Yeah, depending on the version of Ultron, I would say he could beat Superman rather easily. Maybe not one shot him, but still pretty easily. And there is no way in hell Superman could one shot Ultron.
He was just fine after this.
Someone here thinks Hulk can beat Wonder Woman? Wow.
Many people believe Hulk can beat Wonder Woman, that is why she lost against him in a battle of the week thread.
As for the question, I'm pretty sure people like The Spectre,The presence,Endless, The Beyond, Anti-Monitor e.t.c would outright stomp Thanos.
The question was not who could beat Thanos, it was who is equal to him in DC.
Thanos's 'celestial' feats come from the powerful artifacts he steals, and with them he is quite the broken character but without them I know a reasonable amount of people in DC that would beat him.
Even without them he has feats like one shotting Silver Surfer(who is far above Superman in every category), tanking a 2 lightyear wide black hole with nothing but minor cuts, taking Silver Surfers best blasts and asking him if he was done....etc.
With the artifacts there's a few, without them though, there are dozens of people who would beat him.
Again, that wasn't the question, it was who is his equal.
About him against Darkseid. While it annoys me that Thanos is a Darkseid rip-off (this is a fact). He is>Darkseid, but it's still just a small margin. ALE Darkseid would make him fight for his life.
I agree for the most part here, but normal Thanos vs normal Darkseid(no amps, artifacts, equations...etc for either of them) is not close at all
Do you really wanna play the strongest versions game? SA Superman, Superman Prime 1million...e.t.c would one-shot ultron easily.
Definitely going to check out that battle of the week b/w Hulk and WW, I enjoy reading a good Hulk wank every once in a while.
About Normal Thanos vs Normal Darkseid you were using Thanos's strongest un-amped feats I presume, so I should be allowed to use un-amped Pre-Crisis Darkseid, in which case this:
"Thanos vs normal Darkseid(no amps, artifacts, equations...etc for either of them) is not close at all"
Is BS.
Surely the obvious answer is Darkseid if considering general power set, power level, appearance and personality. Darkseid's OE means that he can at the minimum compete with Thanos (not to say he would win, but they make for a good 'match'). If you're looking for someone who has the same motivation as Thanos, then Black Hand is probably the most death-obsessed cosmic DC character.
Well, Marvel has put a lot of effort in the cosmic side of things. Thanos does beat the crap out of SS haha
Thanos has a lot of high showings, this means it's difficult to guage him, like surviving a Galactus blast, but getting hurt by Thor's swings later. I am going to say every character around mid-high level skyfather (like Odin obviously). The things is, DC does not have as many energy manipulators as Marvel (Thor, SS, Galactus, Thanos, Odin ETC). That being said, seeing as Thor regularly at least hurts Thanos with hammer swings, a character considerably stronger than Thor could be even, like, as before mentioned, Despero and Superboy Prime (although I consider SPB above Thanos).
Thanos has a lot of high showings, this means it's difficult to guage him, like surviving a Galactus blast, but getting hurt by Thor's swings later. I am going to say every character around mid-high level skyfather (like Odin obviously). The things is, DC does not have as many energy manipulators as Marvel (Thor, SS, Galactus, Thanos, Odin ETC). That being said, seeing as Thor regularly at least hurts Thanos with hammer swings, a character considerably stronger than Thor could be even, like, as before mentioned, Despero and Superboy Prime (although I consider SPB above Thanos).
well put i too consider superboy prime above Thanos.
Thanos has a lot of high showings, this means it's difficult to guage him, like surviving a Galactus blast, but getting hurt by Thor's swings later. I am going to say every character around mid-high level skyfather (like Odin obviously). The things is, DC does not have as many energy manipulators as Marvel (Thor, SS, Galactus, Thanos, Odin ETC). That being said, seeing as Thor regularly at least hurts Thanos with hammer swings, a character considerably stronger than Thor could be even, like, as before mentioned, Despero and Superboy Prime (although I consider SPB above Thanos).
well put i too consider superboy prime above Thanos.
Thanks :).
Darksiede and thanos is still a very close match up no matter how you throw it the battle would literally last hours and the winner would nearly be dead by the end of the fight. So thanos equal in DC is darksiede.
@outside_85 So thanos is as strong as superman right?
When was the last time superman stood up to skyfathers and cosmic being and easily defeated herald level characters?
I doubt anyone can actually "match" Thanos as he is in his own tier, you are either above him or below him.
I doubt anyone can actually "match" Thanos as he is in his own tier, you are either above him or below him.
I would agree with this.
I think the closest would be Despero. Characters beyond that are much more powerful. It's hard to find someone that exactly fits that ballpark.
@chazz85: Thanos was hurt and bleeding when he traveled inside a black hole. Superman wasn't even hurt or in any pain when he was in the middle of it. He's not as powerful as you make him up to be. But no, Superman wouldn't win against Thanos. Just like Darkseid won most of their fights.
@thearchon: He took a direct blast from odin a galaxy buster and resisted galactcus with his standard sheilds he also tanked SS full power blast he is above darksiede and would take Pre 52 supes mid difficulty.
@Jestersmiles: You need the Man version to beat him :P
@Jestersmiles: You need the Man version to beat him :P
There are SuperMen that can take Thanos.
This thread is trying to find a match for thanos. There are 5+ versions of superman that coud take thanos.
@wf_mxyzptlk: Prime debatable, I don't think that a clear cut match. Kal.. yeah that might be to much for Thanos.
I hate Thanos threads because his character is all over the place. He has plot armor thicker than everyone else combined. When he needs to lose they have to come up with ridiculous bull to counter the ridiculous bull that Thanos made.
It's just a never ending battle of macguffins in Marvel once you get to the Thanos.
@dawnone: Partially correct. Darkseid struggles with Superman, not Superman level threats. He's far above Lobo and Goldstar, Supergirl, Ol-Vir (a Daxamite), Malefic (a Martian), etc. if you took away his loss to Superman things would look a lot better for Darkseid. And people act as if he doesn't have good showings.
@fablecounty: You're right. Post-Crisis has one embarrassing loss to Superman tarnishing his record.
Too many things to reply to so I'll just talk.
Ultron one-shot Superman? Lol kindly turn that the other way.
Yeah, depending on the version of Ultron, I would say he could beat Superman rather easily. Maybe not one shot him, but still pretty easily. And there is no way in hell Superman could one shot Ultron.
He was just fine after this.
Someone here thinks Hulk can beat Wonder Woman? Wow.
Many people believe Hulk can beat Wonder Woman, that is why she lost against him in a battle of the week thread.
As for the question, I'm pretty sure people like The Spectre,The presence,Endless, The Beyond, Anti-Monitor e.t.c would outright stomp Thanos.
The question was not who could beat Thanos, it was who is equal to him in DC.
Thanos's 'celestial' feats come from the powerful artifacts he steals, and with them he is quite the broken character but without them I know a reasonable amount of people in DC that would beat him.
Even without them he has feats like one shotting Silver Surfer(who is far above Superman in every category), tanking a 2 lightyear wide black hole with nothing but minor cuts, taking Silver Surfers best blasts and asking him if he was done....etc.
With the artifacts there's a few, without them though, there are dozens of people who would beat him.
Again, that wasn't the question, it was who is his equal.
About him against Darkseid. While it annoys me that Thanos is a Darkseid rip-off (this is a fact). He is>Darkseid, but it's still just a small margin. ALE Darkseid would make him fight for his life.
I agree for the most part here, but normal Thanos vs normal Darkseid(no amps, artifacts, equations...etc for either of them) is not close at all
Do you really wanna play the strongest versions game? SA Superman, Superman Prime 1million...e.t.c would one-shot ultron easily.
First off, Superman Prime One Million is vastly overrated. He has very few feats and the one he does have are blown out of proportion because people make things up to go with it. No, he would NOT one shot that Ultron, period. SA Superman is not the same at all. He could go from being one shot by the weakest version of Ultron to one shotting someone as high as Galactus. Very unreliable and has very dangerous weaknesses as well.
Definitely going to check out that battle of the week b/w Hulk and WW, I enjoy reading a good Hulk wank every once in a while.
You call it wank, but it really isn't. Personally, I believe it would depend on the version of each character and if she has her weapons or not. In any case, even the weakest versions of Hulk can give her a good battle, the stronger ones can beat her.
About Normal Thanos vs Normal Darkseid you were using Thanos's strongest un-amped feats I presume, so I should be allowed to use un-amped Pre-Crisis Darkseid, in which case this:
No, I was using his normal showings without amps, nothing strongest about it.
"Thanos vs normal Darkseid(no amps, artifacts, equations...etc for either of them) is not close at all"
Is BS.
You call it BS, but most people agree.
@dawnone: @ilostthekey: @wavemotioncannon: @randomsid82: @the-seeffiss17: The whole premise of this setup is wrong....Darkseid CAN take Thanos...
Thanos is a Treasure Hunter. Tools are his power. He is no Mastermind.
@dawnone: @ilostthekey: @wavemotioncannon: @randomsid82: @the-seeffiss17: The whole premise of this setup is wrong....Darkseid CAN take Thanos...
Thanos is a Treasure Hunter. Tools are his power. He is no Mastermind.
You don't know much about Thanos if you think he isn't a mastermind.
@persiboss: You think Thanos isn't a mastermind and isn't powerful without artifacts? You need to read up on Thanos my man...
@wf_mxyzptlk: Prime debatable, I don't think that a clear cut match. Kal.. yeah that might be to much for Thanos.
Kal - As you mentioned
Superman Prime
Superman Thought Robot
Superboy prime(Time Trapper)
Silver Age Superman
Late-period bronze-age superman.
5D Superman
Etc... Many others.
SBP regular would prolly go 6/10 against thanos.
@randomsid82: Don't get me wrong, I think Thanos wins, my problem is you said that it's "not close at all" which is wrong, very wrong. WW best showings cream Hulk's, simple.
Even while I disagree with your Superman prime1million statement, I'll let it go, this isn't a supes vs ultron thread, if there ever is one I'll prove you wrong there (unless of-course it's standard Supes).
Anyway, even late bronze age supes would wreck Ultron so..
Thanos beats a group of herald characters... one guy who isn't even decent herald level, does not offer much of a fight... I guess he offers in a sense that it would be difficult for Thanos to outright catch him... but that's like a game of cat and mouse, one is clearly way above the other, the other just proves difficult to catch, but once the cat couches the mouse... One shot.
WW best showings don't even come close to Hulks, if we pit non-amped and amped versions against one another. Diana has never and will never bust a planet just by her mere existence without an outside amp.
@dawnone If this is a non amped, no artifact having, no prep involved Thanos, then Post Crisis Superman, Superboy Prime, Silver Age Superman (without a doubt), a non jobbing, not-an-avatar Darkseid, Doomsday at his most unstoppable and violent, Despero, Validus (from The Fatal Five), and Imperiex are just a few of the individuals than can match Thanos.
@thedailybagel: Both are the same bricks, Thanos is a Purple brick, Darkseid is a gray brick
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