If marvel and dc were the same universe would the man of steel support the governments setinel program knowing that it targeted not just villains but an entire race of people or would he be against it. I know many of marvel's heros turned a blind eye on the mutant hunting machines but superman being a guy who sees the world as more black and white than the grey areas that marvel's heros see would he be ok with this?

Superman
Character » Superman appears in 17891 issues.
Sent to Earth as an infant from the dying planet Krypton, Kal-El was adopted by the loving Kent family and raised in America's heartland as Clark Kent. Using his immense solar-fueled powers, he became Superman to defend mankind against all manner of threats while championing truth, justice, and the American way!
would superman tolerate the sentinel program
it's hard to say because we dont' know how Superman would feel if there were mutants
he might be okay with it, if he felt they were a threat
I'd also be curious to see batman's veiws on it tho im almost certain green arrow would be against it
If Superman and the Justice League existed in the Marvel U, there would probably never have been a Sentinel program to begin with. I can't think of a group that is persecuted in the DCU like mutants are in the Marvel U. There would probably be mutant members of the JLA, which would put an end to the sentinels if they did exist, since they inevitably end up targeting innocent people/causing collateral damage.
" @joshmightbe: I doubt it. They'd be around for about fifteen minutes after their activation, then Superman would have just knocked them flat. "yep
" I'd also be curious to see batman's veiws on it tho im almost certain green arrow would be against it "If the government was going to make the beings then most likely the products to make these machines would come from Queen and Wayne industries and almost certainly Lexcorp. Superman wouldn't do anything to them until they got out of hand. If they started hurting the JLA for no reason then Kal would say something about it. It would be okay with it till something like that happens, IMO.
Superman wouldn't stand for it at all. This is where Superman's leadership and diplomatic nature comes into effect. People who don't know Superman keep saying he wouldn't go against the government, but they are wrong. Superman stands for the American people, not the American government--Frank Miller gave Superman that douchebaggy persona in his TDKR and Supes has never shaken that off.
The sentinel program goes against a few of his core beliefs. He stands for truth, justice and the American way (Life, liberty and the pursuit of property). Superman tries to diffuse the situation by trying to talk to Congress, but as soon as the program starts he'll put an end to it.
" If Superman and the Justice League existed in the Marvel U, there would probably never have been a Sentinel program to begin with. I can't think of a group that is persecuted in the DCU like mutants are in the Marvel U. There would probably be mutant members of the JLA, which would put an end to the sentinels if they did exist, since they inevitably end up targeting innocent people/causing collateral damage. "this.
No way would the sentinel program even get of the ground in DC. But that's because the average person in DC isn't a total idiot like in marvel.
@GreenLantern555 said:
" @joshmightbe said:" I'd also be curious to see batman's veiws on it tho im almost certain green arrow would be against it "If the government was going to make the beings then most likely the products to make these machines would come from Queen and Wayne industries and almost certainly Lexcorp. Superman wouldn't do anything to them until they got out of hand. If they started hurting the JLA for no reason then Kal would say something about it. It would be okay with it till something like that happens, IMO. "
Batman would never participate in anything like the sentinel program it goes against everything he believes in.
Of course he wouldn't, but if they were going to do it, they would need Wayne Industries was what my point was.
" @Crom-Cruach: Of course he wouldn't, but if they were going to do it, they would need Wayne Industries was what my point was. "true enough.
" @Telcalipoca: do you think he'd atleast speak against it? "yeah he wont break the law but he wouldnt let this go on in his home without saying a word as superman and clark kent(newspaper articles)
bruce has alll control on what wayne industries does and whom they associate with and if bruce doesnt want their company taking on a project then they wont.The sentinel project may need wayne industries but bruce wont accept that gov. contract no matter how much they pay.Not only would he not help make sentinels but he would have all the plans on how they work and make devices to shut them down when ever those sentinels are active in his city." @Crom-Cruach: Of course he wouldn't, but if they were going to do it, they would need Wayne Industries was what my point was. "
" @GreenLantern555 said:qft." @Crom-Cruach: Of course he wouldn't, but if they were going to do it, they would need Wayne Industries was what my point was. "bruce has alll control on what waybe industries does and whom they accosiate with and bruce doesnt want their company taking on a project then they wont.The sentinel may need wayne industries but bruce wont accept any gov. contracts no matter how much they pay.Not only would he not help make sentinels but he would have all the plans on how they work and make devices to shut them down when ever those sentinels are active in his city. "
Says the guy with the superman pic,Prime a.k.a Superman prime and star a.k.a allstar superman
or am i just jumping to conclusions? lol
They already tried something kinda like this in DC, where LexCorp got an assassin/mercenary team (all who hated Superman already) trained and equipped with Kryptonite weapons, as well as a world-scale Kryptonite Bomb. If it weren't for Toyman and his hormonal craving for Power Girl, which drove him to release some kind of nanomachines that subdued the Kryptonite particles, Supes would be forced to be living on Mars or something.
If they tried something, they would probably push Supes outta the way first (along with any other threats), and then make their move.
" @joshmightbe: Superman could never justify genocide, especially since he's one of the last remaining of his own species. "this
"Or even close to them in personality and power for that matter. And the population in the DC universe are is not made of idiots like in the Marvel verse.
"The Avengers are not the JLA. "
" @Korg said:Yeah, they actually admire their heroes and not want them hunted down like animals in marvel!"Or even close to them in personality and power for that matter. And the population in the DC universe are is not made of idiots like in the Marvel verse. "
"The Avengers are not the JLA. "
No way would the sentinel program even get of the ground in DC. But that's because the average person in DC isn't a total idiot like in marvel.
This.
The people in marvel are functional douches. And Superman wouldn't stand for it.
America is not its government, its its people. Superman stands up for the average Joe.
@GreenLantern555: And they don't neccesarily need Wayne Industries, theirs always LexCorp which is more into weapons then Wayne Industries.
@Telcalipoca said:
" @GreenLantern555 said:I didn't say he would... But the sentinals are basically what Bruce made in Kingdom Come but who knows..bruce has alll control on what wayne industries does and whom they associate with and if bruce doesnt want their company taking on a project then they wont.The sentinel project may need wayne industries but bruce wont accept that gov. contract no matter how much they pay.Not only would he not help make sentinels but he would have all the plans on how they work and make devices to shut them down when ever those sentinels are active in his city. "" @Crom-Cruach: Of course he wouldn't, but if they were going to do it, they would need Wayne Industries was what my point was. "
" I'd also be curious to see batman's veiws on it tho im almost certain green arrow would be against it "Dude Superman protects even aliens. Do you think there's a chance that goody-two-shoes would shun mutants?
" @GreenLantern555: Omacs are different then sentinels in there purpose, Omacs were a measure in case the world's metahumans turned uncontrollable, Sentinels only purpose are machines programed to hunt down and kill mutants just cause they are different. Omacs were batman's answer to what if, the worst happened sentinels are racists answer's to someone different then them. "That's exactly what Sentinels are now. They watch over the Mutants, just incase they do something bad. Exactly like the Omacs.
@Gylan Thomas: Thats all frank milalr image supes stands with the people not necessarily the goverment.
" @joshmightbe: Great question. Superman wouldn't stand for it at all. This is where Superman's leadership and diplomatic nature comes into effect. People who don't know Superman keep saying he wouldn't go against the government, but they are wrong. Superman stands for the American people, not the American government--Frank Miller gave Superman that douchebaggy persona in his TDKR and Supes has never shaken that off. The sentinel program goes against a few of his core beliefs. He stands for truth, justice and the American way (Life, liberty and the pursuit of property). Superman tries to diffuse the situation by trying to talk to Congress, but as soon as the program starts he'll put an end to it. "Wait....
what?
That all sounded pretty sincere untill the "pursuit of property" part. Shouldn't it be happiness?
Can't remember a story where Supe's went against the government.
I might be wrong though.
@Gylan Thomas: And Superman who lost his planet and most of his entire race, would not stand by watching as his goverment turned on its own people and people of the world for just being different. He would not sit around and watch that kind of death happen even if that put him against his government, his duty is to his country not his government.
" @GreenLantern555: I don't hate them i just think marvel isn't as good as dc is.Any examples of him not bending to the law?
@Gylan Thomas: And Superman who lost his planet and most of his entire race, would not stand by watching as his goverment turned on its own people and people of the world for just being different. He would not sit around and watch that kind of death happen even if that put him against his government, his duty is to his country not his government. "
Even while luthor was prez?
Hmm off the top of my head none that i can think of but the image of superman being the goverments puppet seems to be imprinted in peoples mind from the TDKR, Superman stands for Truth, Justice and the American way. Well whats happens if say a shapeshifter took over for the president and launched a missile at china. your telling me Superman wouldn't stop it? If he did that would put him against the government, but yet standing up for what America believes in.
But hats jut hypothetical, I'll look for a concrete example
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