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My answer: A good fight with a character on his level. The Orion fight was cool but I thought it would be much bigger than it was. Superman needs something to show off his power. Thor fought Gorr and it showed us how strong he is. Superman needs to fight someone like H'el or Zod so he can get some good feats that display striking power and fight skill and ingenuity and combat speed

Mongul or Darkseid would be nice. I love the the Supes Darkseid battle in the DCAU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoJ2Bd41zsw

I would like to see him taken by Mongul onto War World. He could be captured and place into a tournament. They could take Martian Manhunter also. It would be a great way to introduce Mongul as a beast and on Superman's level while showing Superman cut loose. They could have Lobo and (Big Barda or Kalibak) in the tournament as well. Dasaad could be in the stands watching for prospects to add to Darkseid's army

More depth. Superman's books should be about more than big fights. They need to show how his actions and his very existance affects the world.

Superman lacks a rich universe since John Byrne's MOS reboot.

Except of four supporting characters and the FoS Superman lacks a universe that his stories can be expanded on. In the Silver Age Superman had the Legion of Superheroes, Kandor, he traveled through time and space, an army of robots. As good as a base metropolis is it can't contain Superman as a character.

As for the supporting cast, well I actually think it is too small and one-sided considering Superman's impact to the world. Perry White, Jimmy Olsen we get to see them in every issue without actually adding anything new to their personalities or the readers enjoyment.

I agree his supporting cast should be flushed out more. But I want to see a good superman fight. That's just me though

Id like to see a better creative team

@sog7dc: From New Krypton to new 52 all i see is literally fights! What i don't see is a superman story that moves me.
You are a new reader so it's understandable that you wanna see Supes kick some serious a$$ but the fights aren't gonna make the books better, Superman v2 1-11 are an excellent example full of fights with a script that could be written on a napkin.

As much as rediculous the Silver age was the people actually new how to sell Superman.

Sorry if I came out somewhat offensive but i haven't seen a good Superman story since Morrison's AC. Superman Unchained is too early to tell.

@queencorp15 said:

A new writer... I hope Greg Pak can bring something new to the table. I'm liking what Snyder is doing with him but for some reason I think Superman is too childish. Granted, he IS young in the New 52, I just don't see him ever saying "Oh man!" like he did in H'el on earth (the only Lobdell issue I ever read).

There needs to be more characterization, sometimes I think Superman is fighting just for the sake of fighting. I don't see determination or drive in anything he does. It's like... he's doing it to save the earth, I just don't see the desperation and need to succeed. it's like I haven't seen Superman with a fear of failing.

If there's examples of that in the New 52, please do point me that way, I'd like to see it.

@squalleon: No offense taken. And I hate to get on this tangent but this is the reason why I want to write comics one day. I have so many ideas for characters to give them expanded mythos' an bada$$ fights. But back on topic maybe that is it. And as far as superman stories that have moved me I would suggest "For tomorrow" I know alot of people didn't like it but I absolutely love it...and "birthright" and what is superman v2?

@sog7dc: Superman v2 is the new 52 Superman title. I don't know if you have read it but it is awful especially pre-Lobdell. As for the stories you suggested I already read them and thats the problem I have already read almost any "great" superman story out there :-P I am currently reading classic Silver age stories because I run out of material.

@hawkguy: yea i hope greg pak does good il give it a try

@squalleon: true, I want a more expanded supporting cast.

@squalleon: Aw yeah I hav read all the new 52 superman title. And it has been pretty bad. Lobdell ha great ideas but very poor execution.

I want a more down to earth Superman.

@sog7dc: A better costume. Preferably one that isn't armor. Maybe something like this

@smart_dork_dude:

you don't like the costume?

How about a consistent identity? We haven't had that since Morrison's earlier run on Action Comics.

@sog7dc: No. No I don't. It's armor. SUPERMAN DOESN'T WEAR ARMOR!!!!!!!!! Only time I accept that is if it's an Anti-Kryptonite armor, nothing more!!!!

And before you say that pic I posted is the same old costume, it isn't! The S-shield is black instead of yellow!!

A) A character flaw or two.

B) An upper limit to what he can physically do.

If you want these things then you shouldn't read Superman......

@squalleon: Which is why I am not, and stopped being interested when Lobdell added the planet-benching BS.

A richer, fleshed out supporting cast, more villains that can give him physical challenges whilst acting as compelling foils for him along with a consistent feel and tone to the Superman world as a whole. It's stuck between Morrison's Golden Age social crusader and something a bit more Pre Flashpoint.

Really? You're being a tad picky mate I'm afraid. Superman wore armour loads of times Pre Flashpoint and the Kryptonians are an incredibly advanced race with technology light years ahead of Earth. I fail to see how wearing armour as a ceremonial respect for his home is any different from him wearing the Pre Flashpoint costume. Your logic is flawed for disliking the armour. Now if you complain about the way it looks, that's understandable. But I like it. It could be improved sure and there are other costumes I prefer but it's not bad and gets rid of the embarrassing underpants from his costume. They had to go I'm afraid.

@smart_dork_dude: Chillsx brah lol. I actually agree that I do not like the fact that dc made it armor. I'm ok with the new look (I hated the underpants) but I don't like that it's Arne because it takes away from supermans invulnerability.

@lvenger: I dislike the armor when it's DRAWN like armor. I mean, look at the Man of Steel costume. That was armor!! It was like a kind of chain/scalemale, which is in fact armor, but it wasn't as overly complicated as the New 52 armor!!!! With all those little armor creases and lines!!! IT'S TOO COMPLICATED!! Superman's costume should be one of the easiest to draw!! Look at this!!

Unnecessarily complicated! I SO Would have preferred something like the Titans Tomorrow Superboy costume!

It accomplishes the SAME THING as the New 52 armor, but keeps the design simple. THIS next one is a fan design and it works on SO many levels!!!

Again. SIMPLE! And it works even better as there is more yellow in the costume!!!

@smart_dork_dude said:

@lvenger: I dislike the armor when it's DRAWN like armor. I mean, look at the Man of Steel costume. That was armor!! It was like a kind of chain/scalemale, which is in fact armor, but it wasn't as overly complicated as the New 52 armor!!!! With all those little armor creases and lines!!! IT'S TOO COMPLICATED!! Superman's costume should be one of the easiest to draw!! Look at this!!

Unnecessarily complicated! I SO Would have preferred something like the Titans Tomorrow Superboy costume!

It accomplishes the SAME THING as the New 52 armor, but keeps the design simple. THIS next one is a fan design and it works on SO many levels!!!

Again. SIMPLE! And it works even better as there is more yellow in the costume!!!

I would have preferred this tbh

a personality

What exactly makes you say that, Morrison's Superman had a personality, Snyder's Superman has one, Pak is expanding upon Morrison's work and he gave Superman a unique voice in B/S you can really see the difference between him and the other characters in terms of thinking and acting.
I don't see how he lacks a personality.

@smart_dork_dude: See now you're talking about the way it looks. That's understandable and justified. Before it sounded like "Superman doesn't wear armour ragh!" The fan design doesn't jump out as being particularly good IMO though the others do. One of my favourite alternate Superman costumes is the one from Smallville Season 11. It looks good, is in keeping with the traditional costume, is practical (the thing on his belt) and is simple in design.

new EARTHLY villains that can match Superman Strength (ex. Atlas). and more supporting flesh out Supporting characters that arent from the Daily Planet

@lvenger said:

Yeah, I admit I was a touch undefined in my rage. Really the fan made one is pretty much the Smallville costume, minus the two-tone blue thing. Actually as far as I'm concerned the Earth 2 Superman costume should have been the default one

Also like the S-design a bit better. Like Man of Steel they make it look a touch more alien, while still making it look like an S.

I do not want that lol but I do want a more fleshed out supporting cast

@smart_dork_dude: I take it you prefer the Earth 2 Superman as well? He reminds me of a more Pre Flashpoint Superman in personality.

Better villians.

@consolemaster001:

actually Superman's villans are awesome. Darkseid,Doomsday, Cyborg-Superman,Parasite,Zod, Braniac,Bizzarro,Mongul and now we have even new entries like H'el and (above all) Helspont.

And you are absolutely right. I don't know why but it is hard to find an awesome fight in the superheroes's books, or, when they happen, they usually last for 2 or 3 pages.

One of the most beautiful fights superman has had was against doomsday and the elite i am afraid.

Plus together with some big fights he also needs to have more depth into his stories. DC should explore a little more his values and its moral code, which is what makes him one of the most relevant super heroes.

Me writing him.

@lvenger: From what little I read of him yeah. It's kinda funny. Earth 2 Superman is Kal-L, the Superman that wasn't a boy-scout, but acts like Kal-El the boyscout Superman. They got them all screwed up really.

Kal-L is one of my favorite versions of Superman because there's just something about a Superman that breaks into criminals homes and forcing them to confess what they did, beating up wife-beaters, etc, that I love. That's why I LOVE Morrison's first arc on Action Comics, it brought Superman back to that era of him being a social crusader. However, it does come at a cost as Kal-L loses his identity as that kind of Superman.

I always saw the two like this. Kal-L is the vigilante Superman, he takes a major stand against crime in Metropolis and only in later stories did he broaden his scope and began to be a protector of Earth at large. Kal-El on the other hand always protected Earth at large and simply lives in Metropolis. He fights crime in Metropolis like bank robberies or muggings if he comes across them, and of course the occasional supervillain, but he's different than Kal-L who actively sought these things out.

Kal-El should be the Superman that's very much a fireman, a rescuer, someone to look to in a crisis. Kal-L should be looked to as a policeman, someone who's main goal is to make sure the guilty are punished.

@sog7dc: Why?

@fadetoblackbolt: we hope so

I would love to see a Mongul fight, as he is one of my favourite characters, but is the current Mongul a proper match for Superman. I'm a bit out of touch with current events, but was led to believe the original Mongul was far more powerful?

Anyway, I think Unchained is gonna give us a battle soon enough with the scarily powerful Wraith, so it won't be long before Superman has his hands full.

@smart_dork_dude:

The artist just over dones it, its really doesnt have to look like that.

Heres an another version of it, from a different artist

Turn it from armor into a suit, lower the collar, and stop the sleeves at the wrists and the costume is good.

@toptom: I haven't been able to read either if those stories :(. And if I'm being honest after I watched Thor planet bust without even being in the planet it made me even more impatient for dc to give superman an off-planet fight against someone like h'el or helspont so superman can show of his fighting skill and power.

@holyserpent: I personally think that noone on earth (save Wonderwoman) shoal be able to do anything with superman. He shook be FAR out of their league. Kinda like what KC superman did to Hercules. That's just my opinion though

@bezza: GL took Mongul away from Superman. funny since Mongul was created for the very reason to have someone who can physically fight Superman that ain't Darkseid.

@holyserpent: Personally I think superman should be the physically most powerful being on earth.

his Pre52 personality and build back

For Lobdell’s Superman run I wish better writing – Lobdell can produce intriguing storyline, but his execution … somewhat lacking.

Otherwise, Morrison and Snyder portrayal of New-52 Superman perfect for me, right mix of legendary and modern, character and action, so nothing to change here, please (well, maybe some stability in power level wouldn’t hurt).

a little more Sun.....