@sethysquare said:
@Durakken said:
Superman is easy to write for. The problem is that the "creative" teams of DC right now is mainly garbage and they all fall into the common trap of "he's too powerful and therefor not understandable" Everyone can relate to Superman, most people in both ways that he is relatable. We have all been Children and we looked up to someone that we thought was great. And Most of us have been put in a place where we had absolute authority over a situation and we had to make a call on whether to do x or y. People for some reason don't realize that they can relate to superman in the second mode and because the writers also don't they don't understand the character and can't right a good story.
You obviously have not read the new 52 superman. please put some thoughts into your posts.
Superman have been depowered so much that he is nothing like "too powerful and therefore not understandable"
Additionally, Action comics has made Superman really relatable and if anything Grant Morrison is the writer who understand Superman the most. Considering he wrote one of the best story - All Star Superman. Even in all star, he was over the top powerful and it was one of the most sold comics for YEARS!
Also please don't pretend you're only talking about the superman title because you mentioned creative teams and its obviously you meant more than one.
#1 Please actually read and comprehend before responding.
#2 New 52 Superman is trash, just like most of the other New 52 versions of characters.
#3 Everyone, including the DC creative teams say that he's too powerful which makes it so he's not understandable. I said that that is bullshit and that thinking is responsible for how bad Superman is written most of the time.
#4 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Action Comics and Superman are just barely readable titles that show a complete lack of understanding how characters develop over time, that a character does not fundamentally change like they want you to believe. But it is also a little bit worse than that because if you read the two side by side the character shown in Action Comics and Superman have different personalities, motivations, and power levels. So radically that they might as well be referred to as two different characters. If you consider either "good" you either have low standards or are way too forgiving.
#5 Nope, I'm not talking about just the current team, because they aren't the only ones involved in the direction that was decided upon. From what I understand there was a large meeting between all the writers, editors, etc and they discussed what they wanted to do and the direction of most if not all the titles to some degree. So while I believe that there is someone on some of the teams that know what they're doing and just got shafted (Gail Simone probably) the majority simply don't get it and I never pretended to talk about anything else.
#6 As to Morrison writing a pretty crap book. Certain people are only good when they are writing in their element. Action Comics Flashpoint is not Morrison's element. Justice League Flashpoint is not Geoff Johns's element. Any Lobdell book he is currently writing, not his element. There is a huge difference between writing the way Morrison wrote All Star Superman and what is required for Action Comics, and the same can be said of Geoff Johns and several others. While I don't have any doubt that these guys are good writers when they write what is in their wheel house (Batman RIP for example) and I love them when they are doing that, but when they are doing these other things it is just painful for me, because they don't understand the characters or are too limited or something. If there is one person I blame all of what I hate about DC on I'd go with Dan Didio most likely based on what I have heard about his views on many things and the fact that he is in charge. If I could have a second person to blame it on I'd go with Jim Lee. Those two are probably the worst things that have happened DC, but that is just my opinion.
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