i dont like him, cause im biased...yep thats my excuse

I like superman, like lots of the stories he's in
 
even if there are a lot of bad superman stories out there too. But that's true of most long running series.

Been a superman fan the most of my life. 
 
Why is it than when other heroes get super powerful they're cool but when Superman gets even a fraction of the power-up he's lame? Look at Odinforce or Rune King Thor. Look at X-man. They receive generally positive reception. But when Supes holds a blackhole in his hands he's so illogical and boring. Some people are just so biased.
 
I agree though, there are pretty lame story arcs of Superman.

superman is a very obvious concept...alien stronger than the average human being. tight red pants on a blue outfit?...please.  serious color clashing right there. the guy looks nowhere near to real. i think superman should be redone its not a cool concept

I don't like Superman.  
 
The best thing about him is the way Bill broke him down in Kill Bill vol. 2.

Kill Bill? I didn't see that second one. 
 
Anywho, I know a few people who hate him...haters.. lol but me personally I love Supes. Without him, you wouldn't have your Justice League, X-Men, Spider-Man and so on and so forth.... 
 
Supes set the template and paved the way for comics, period :) I think everyone has to respect that despite how you personally feel towards the character.

I think he's got a solid concept. If he didn't people would have forgotten about him some time in the last century :P.

" badly written,overrated,overpowered,and has a legion of idiotic fanboys that claim no-one can beat him  also sa superman was the biggest load of sh1te ever written "

i don't like him and i used to hate him, but i don't know if i can properly explain it. i agree with a lot of the other's points. i like characters that i don't know whether or not they will win usually. i don't think its superman's powerset even more, just his iconic status. he can't lost just like he can't change, at least not for long, because he has to meet fans and the public's expectations. he's not allowed to evolve or break character. i almost feel bad for the guy more than anything.

I love Supes and his recent stories have been interesting.

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" badly written,overrated,overpowered,and has a legion of idiotic fanboys that claim no-one can beat him  also sa superman was the biggest load of sh1te ever written "

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I really wish this thread wasn't bumped...

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" @hdorman1 said:

" badly written,overrated,overpowered,and has a legion of idiotic fanboys that claim no-one can beat him  also sa superman was the biggest load of sh1te ever written "

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 and one of the worst reboots in historySuperman Returns sucks "

" This is the most disgusting thread i've ever seen in my time on CV,i feel contaminated by even entering it. "

I only get bugged by people's complaints when they are hypocritical about it or when they don't explain their dislike. Sadly, this is almost always die hard Marvel fans that have either never picked up a Superman or DC comic in their lives, or had only done so a decade or so ago.

For example; "I hate supes he's so lame!" "He's too overpowered!" "He's too goody goody!" See? No reason as to why he's lame. Is it his name? Because frankly, names of popular characters like Doctor Doom and the Thing (really all characters associated with the FF) are way cornier and lame. Is it his costume? Usually people direct this at his undies on the outside, yet Doom, Cap America, Magneto and Wolverine (his costume, like most X-Men, changes constantly, so it may no longer be relevant) all do the same. Those who say he's overpowered can be seen practically groveling at characters like Silver Surfer, Hulk, Thor, Phoenix, and a heck of a lot more powerful characters.

It's usually either ignorance, outright bias, or just ''haters gonna hate'' syndrome. Every once in a while, you'll find someone who genuinely gave the character a chance and still doesn't like him, and those are the only ones I respect in that regard.

" I only get bugged by people's complaints when they are hypocritical about it or when they don't explain their dislike. Sadly, this is almost always die hard Marvel fans that have either never picked up a Superman or DC comic in their lives, or had only done so a decade or so ago.For example; "I hate supes he's so lame!" "He's too overpowered!" "He's too goody goody!" See? No reason as to why he's lame. Is it his name? Because frankly, names of popular characters like Doctor Doom and the Thing (really all characters associated with the FF) are way cornier and lame. Is it his costume? Usually people direct this at his undies on the outside, yet Doom, Cap America, Magneto and Wolverine (his costume, like most X-Men, changes constantly, so it may no longer be relevant) all do the same. Those who say he's overpowered can be seen practically groveling at characters like Silver Surfer, Hulk, Thor, Phoenix, and a heck of a lot more powerful characters.It's usually either ignorance, outright bias, or just ''haters gonna hate'' syndrome. Every once in a while, you'll find someone who genuinely gave the character a chance and still doesn't like him, and those are the only ones I respect in that regard. "

I don't like Superman, I guess you can say I don't have any real feelings toward the character since I haven't read that much.He's a pretty generic superhero.I respect the idea of Superman and what he means to DC and all he as a character represents for this country and for the superhero archetype.When choosing characters I like I am usually drawn to those with a unique ability or background story and since Superman is pretty much the logo for "superhero" there have been a ton of characters that have taken from him.So even though he's the original I just find that other creators have taken traits from Superman and attached them to more interesting characters.That's not to say that Superman isn't or can't be interesting..I just have a hard time really getting into the character.

Vanceeeee

" Vanceeeee "

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" Vanceeeee "

What? "

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" @The Dark Huntress said:

" Vanceeeee "

What? "

I was just surprised lol. I think this is the first time that I've come close to agreeing with everything that you have to say.  "

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Because he's out of style or fashion with a era of more political incorrectness and free moral speech, Super man is just to ideal and straightmanish to be a competitor to heroes of today which consists of killers, avengers, and cynics. Superman however is the lynchpin of these branches of fictional hero variety, he's the god of superheroes and mythos. Plus Super Man represents God in a Mans clothing and people hate perfect symbols of omnipotence and perfection. Not that I'm saying The last son fo kyrpton is god, but he holds himself and the sake of his life higher than anyone in comics based on who he is and has to be. The Perfect Hero.

 

I am neutral to the character, I don't like how he is always better as a person than other heroes and is always a standard for the critque of human beings. It takes a whole lot more to delve deep into a human being true capcity for good and promise, Sometimes a Hero who acts like a human being first should always make himself a better person first than being a person who is already better, that just comes off as condencending. Clark never has to make amends meet for himself because he's already a stand up person with good old fashioned moral values and a rightous heart. I also hate how God Modish and facist he has to come off as according to Jo rel, "people have to capcity to do good but show them how it's done". He comes off as Jesus then, not a person with his own idividuality which makes him unrealatble and boring.

 

But he kinda has the right to be all these things, he's the one who came first. He's Super Man he's the main key to a janitors door of endless possibilty of super heroic adventures. So I;m grateful to him.

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People stop w/ the "overpowered" theory, marvel fanboys use this without looking at Sentry and Gladiator.

Sometimes the writing isn't good. I mean one minute Superman is the man of steel then he's being slapped in the face with a rubber chicken.

" People stop w/ the "overpowered" theory, marvel fanboys use this without looking at Sentry and Gladiator. "

Okay now i'd like to say a few words about the random nonsense which people were throwing around back in the day.

Some said that Batman has villians who overpower him,this has to be the most ridiculous statement i've ever heard,almost every batvillian who can effectively challange Bat's has been written out his rogues,Bane,Deadshot,Ivy etc when was the last time Bat's faced them?Joker has been mostly threatening in Morrisons run,that's about it.Ra's is the only consistent villian.

Now Brainiac,Lex and Zod in the last 3 years have done more to prove themselves as proper menaces as compared to morons like Hush,Penguin,Riddler etc who have done absolutely NOTHING.

Then there's the overpowered argument,sorry but this is just garbage coming from butthurt people.They would prolly love it if their favourite character got sudden powerups.

He's unrelatable sure but who CARES,Batman is'nt relatable,Wolverine is'nt so either.He is'nt supposed to be.

Finally some said that Cap America is the better hero,sorry am a huge Cap fan but this is not true,none of us can count on Cap to save the day but we can all count on Supes.

Long story short GET OVER IT.

I get that people don't like Superman. But at least people should respect the idea. Every single one of your favorite superheroes has something in common with Superman and it's a little hypocritical to bash Superman and speak so highly of a different hero. And if this is about being "not relatable" then just get the heck over it. You have a problem relating to an alien sent here from a dead planet, but you can relate to a billionaire playboy who dresses up as a bat with a teenage sidekick? Grow up. 

Most of the reason why I don't like Superman have been pretty much summed up all ready by people on this discussion. However the main point that nobody seems to ask, but I want to know is. If the radiation from kryptonite is what weakens superman than how come so much exposure from this lethal radiation has not cause him to have develop some kind of cancer or a tumor growth. I am supposed to believe that something that is deadly and can weaken him with such a small amount in close proximity to him and he has not develop any kind of physical damage from such prolong exposure. For the love of god nobody better mention about the other different kinds of kryptonite that had been created and have different effects on him, because really WTF? I mean instead of finding original ways to defeat him you come up with red kryptonite.  I would love to see a story arch were superman has to go through chemo, than again how would they remove the tumor if his skin his so impenetrable would they use kryptonite medical utensils. 

I like him.

Superman is one of the all-time greats (DC's greatest, as a matter of fact)

I don't care who knows.

I'm tired of this. How are we morons? Because we like a character that simply does the right thing cuz he can? Hu isnt an emo, psychotic lunatic hu is far more unrelatable than superman will ever be? fans say "hulk's better, thor's better" but they never say that these guys are overpowered! How are we morons??!!!! Cuz we don't like all fo our heroes to come out of some garth ennis or frank miller cespool? cuz we like a guy hu's generally nice person? y is that so boring? especially nowadays in the flood of batman, deathstroke, punisher, and cable knockoffs?

Superman himself is not bad. But I don't like how DC handles him. Send him to Dark Horse or Marvel. DC just throws powers at people.

Superman and Batman and Spidey and Cap are the pillars and legends within the Comic book world. I love the character. You can't not like him.

I will agree that the recent Superman stories have been quite bad.

So my answer is:

Do I like Superman? YES

Do I like the recent stories? NO

I think Superman's okay. I like people without powers better though, since it's more of a challenge to beat their opponent.

I won't argue that the Hulk is vastly overpower but what makes him compelling is not because he is overpower but mainly because he is a force that no one can control and nobody wants around. you don't call the hulk to help save the day and help save people life, but if you see the hulk you run for you lives and hope you don't get in the middle of what he is facing. I am never expecting him to save somebody from a fire or from falling from a building you have other people for that. I also understand that you are right FF and Bruce should be dead and just like you said I except that they got there super power from that what should have kill them, because, ay the end of the day its just a comic book. I just enjoy good concepts and storyline that are not predictable, not redundant or not rehashed over and over again (unless its a different time line to or starting from scratch from a series)  It just pains to read Superman because he is their  deus ex machina when all else fails you call superman and he will always win. not saying hulk isn't one either, but he is more like we try everything else so lets pray to god the Hulk can do with as little property damage as possible.
 
hey I can except an alien that is vastly superior than humans living on earth and protecting, but when you are that powerful and that much greater than all the other race out there why is earth the only place you give a dam 99 percent of your time. I mean if krypton was such an advance race and superior beings to all other then why the hell are you just protecting earth, because you are raise by earth parent and installed good wholesome earth morals. seem kind of racist if you ask me saying that earth people petty crimes are more important than galactic peace. silver surfer may be a good guy and save the earth, but he also flies around the universe and helps other races and don't get me started on the green lantern.

The thing with Thor and being a mythological god is he is not living with the human for shits and giggles he learning and growing and finding out what it means to be what he is and the humans are the reason for that. It wasn't like he wanted to be on earth in the first place he was banished to the earth realm because of what he was doing in Asgard by his father Odin.