Interview: Charles Soule and Tony Daniel Talk SUPERMAN/WONDER WOMAN

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In the New 52, we're seeing many changes. It's a time to explore new possibilities and new legends are forged. One new possibility is seeing Superman and Wonder Woman together. So far in the pages of JUSTICE LEAGUE, we've seen them make a connection as they both feel separated from others due to their powers and abilities. They've also shown that they make a great team in defeating the bad guys.

Next month DC is prepared to unleash a brand new series starring the two iconic heroes. Charles Soule will be writing while Tony Daniel will provide the art. We had the chance to speak with both of them to get an idea what exactly we can expect from the series and if it's just going to be about the two going on dates (spoiler: it's not just about dating).

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Comic Vine: What will be the tone of the series?

Charles Soule: It's a great mix. It's not just one thing. I would say that it's really a mix of being really gigantic scale superhero action, which is appropriate when you have Superman and Wonder Woman playing on the same playing field. Beyond that, there are some really fantastic character moments, not just between the two of them but between their expanded casts, both respectively from their individual books. You also have the main characters in the book in a relationship with one another. So that enables us to play some deeper emotional beats that maybe not every other types would be able to access in the same way. When Superman and Wonder Woman, the icons, are together, it has sort of a spark, an electricity to it. That's just really really fun to write. There's something interesting on every single page, obviously with Tony's art on the book. There's a lot of ways we'll try to keep the readers interested it's a gigantic superhero punching or it is a really beautiful character moment between them.

Tony Daniel: I'd say it's a combination of badass meets sexy meets character drama. From the artist talking, that's what I'm envisioning in my head.

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CV: The cover displays many of supporting characters and villains of both, is that something we can expect in the series?

TD: I drew that cover to basically show both worlds coming together, Superman's world and Wonder Woman's world. We may see some of those guys or we may not, during the course of our run. Those characters embody each of their worlds. They're not really making a new world together. These are two established icons bringing their deep rich histories together. That's what I wanted to try to get across on that very first piece of art. It was huge, larger than life and something that spans both worlds.

CV: What will be the balance between romance and action?

CS: Every issue is different. It's not a…I think you're focusing too much on it. The book is everything. In Empire Strikes Back, I use this comparison all the time, in that film you had a fantastic actor story, you had the great story with Luke learning from Yoda, you had the father/son stuff with Luke and Darth Vader (I guess that's a spoiler if no one's seen it) and you also happened to have a romance between Han and Leia. The movie would have probably still been great without that romance but adding the romance made it just a little bit better. As far as balance, there is no balance. We'll just play it as it makes sense in the story. You make a good story, that's all there is. There's no sort of percentage allocation to one or the other.

CV: Will we see much of the two in their civilian identities?

CS: When it makes sense. There are certainly scenes with Clark and Diana. There are also plenty of scenes with Superman and Wonder Woman. It's all about what makes sense in the story.

CV: Will this series be tied to the main series or have more of a separate feel focusing on the Superman and Wonder Woman and their adventures together?

CS: My feeling is that, well first of all, it's absolutely locked into the DC New 52. The things that happen in this series will have a dramatic and significant effect on the rest of the DCU. In terms of how those affects spreads out, it'll happen over time. We'll see things that start to resonate in other titles as they develop. But that's really true for any issue or any book in the DCU. Everything sort of affects everything else given enough time.

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CV: Will we see more reaction from people like Amanda Waller and the government or Lois and Steve Trevor?

CS: There will be the entire sort of supporting cast of both titles that will be available for us to use. As far as which ones we'll use and when we'll use them, I think it'll be more fun to find out when reading the story, personally. They're all there. We're aware of all of them. We're using them as it makes sense.

CV: Will we see any follow up from events in Trinity War or build up to what we saw will eventually happen in FOREVER EVIL?

CS: Those stories are absolutely something were taking into account with our story. It sort of ties back to the answer I gave earlier, which is that the things that happen in SUPERMAN/WONDER WOMAN are tied into the larger DCU. As for how they tie in, that's going to be one of those things you'll have to wait and see when you read the book.

CV: Besides the two of you together, how will this series be different from other Superman or WW titles?

CS: Well obviously you have Superman and Wonder Woman together, which is not something we see often. We see the Justice League but Wonder Woman doesn't really pop up in the Superman titles and Superman doesn't really pop up in Wonder Woman's book. The idea that you can see them having adventures together is one of the things that absolutely makes it unique. There just isn't much else around like it.

As far as our work together, this is the largest scale superhero stuff I've ever done. I've never been able to work on Superman or Wonder Woman to this level. If you know my work from, say, SWAMP THING or RED LANTERNS, this is an entirely different type of storytelling for me. Which I'm having a really good time with. I think Tony can speak a little with the way he's approaching his art on this story a little bit differently than he might have done previously.

TD: Definitely. It's much bigger in scope and larger in scale. This is like drawing…gods, for the most part. And we do in issue #2. [laughs] The whole feel of the book is just so big and larger than life. I think that's what really great superhero comic books should read and look like.

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CV: Tony, what are you most excited about in working on this title?

TD: I'm most excited about seeing the characters develop and grow as two individuals who are romantically involved in each other's lives. Watching what happens to them, as a fan of Superman and Wonder Woman, I care what happens with them. I care how everything is going to affect them and the people around them. It gives kind of a more real life scope to what is otherwise very fantasy-oriented. That's one of the things I look forward to the most. Aside from that, just drawing the world's mightiest heroes is inspiration enough for me to wake up everyday and try to do my best work.

SUPERMAN/WONDER WOMAN #1 is on sale October 9.

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I'm buying it just to look at Wonder Woman be sexy.

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Out of all the artists I've seen in the New 52, I like how Tony Daniel draws Superman the most. I'll probably buy one of the first issue variants just to have as a collector but I probably won't continue with it after that.

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#4  Edited By LCazT1996

I am considering getting this. My younger sister really wants me to. I'm just wondering why it's gonna be $3.99..?

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I'm really interested in this book. I'm at least gonna try it out.

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I'm really interested in this book. I'm at least gonna try it out.

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I can't wait for this title, as soon as it was announced I was excited for it. And I agree, Tony Daniel's artwork is incredible and the way he draws Superman (and Wonder Woman for that matter) is fantastic. At first I didn't like the idea of Wonder Woman and Superman as a couple, but the more I think about it the more I love it. I may be the only person who doesn't want Lois and Steve Trevor to come into their lives....

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My goodness that art is gorgeous.

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I'm so glad that you guys are making this series!

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Looks beautiful.

"As far as balance, there is no balance. We'll just play it as it makes sense in the story. You make a good story, that's all there is".

I could agree more with this. Just make a great SM/WW story and everything will be fine.

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I'm really interested in this book. I'm at least gonna try it out.

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What I've read of Soule's work has been good. He is a pretty versatile writer so I'm sure this series is in good hands. As far as Tony Daniels is concerned. Well just look the preview pages, they speak for themselves.

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#13 SanoHibiki  Online

Soule, Daniel...

Take my money.

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Why does that splash page have a movie version of Faora?

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Don't know much about Charles Soule's work to be honest, but I'm sold on Tony Daniel's artwork alone. I mean just look at those pages... They're beautiful!! :D

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#18  Edited By z3ro180

Ok people can cry about Supes and Diana till the cows come home but come on look at pictures and try to tell me that this book won't be epic.

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Superman/Batman is my favorite of the trinity books right now i never got a chance to see earth 2 batman and superman and i hope this series is just a good

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#21  Edited By johnqestion

I can't wait for this title, as soon as it was announced I was excited for it. And I agree, Tony Daniel's artwork is incredible and the way he draws Superman (and Wonder Woman for that matter) is fantastic. At first I didn't like the idea of Wonder Woman and Superman as a couple, but the more I think about it the more I love it. I may be the only person who doesn't want Lois and Steve Trevor to come into their lives....

I'm the next person. I couldn't care less about them. I am loving the art! It's clean. it's crisp. It's very larger than life...accessible and seems to represent comics epic story telling. I never get why some fans fuss about beautifully drawn characters with some evidence of sexuality. Can't wait to read it!

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#22  Edited By johnqestion

@jointron33 said:

DIE AND BURN IN HELL!!!!

And what civilian identitieS? WW DOESN'T HAVE ONE!!!!!

BRING BACK DIANA PRINCE AND I'LL EAT YOUR URETHRA!!!

Actually she DOES. Marston her f***king creator GAVE her one. She had it for decades AND she has it outside of the WW comic which likes to pretend she can gore centaurs on bridges and strut around London and not be noticed because she wears a coat worn by Princess Kate. WW does not begin and end with Azzarello.

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I will give the first issue a go.

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@johnqestion: Of she doesn't end and begin with Azzarello, which is why Perez MOST INTELLIGENTLY GOT RID OF THAT STUPID ALTER EGO!!!!!!!

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@manofshazam: No you're not the only one, I don't want them either and I think I know some more readers who think the same.

I'm getting this book too and can't wait for it besides the superman's tittles, justice league and wonder woman's this one has moved to the top priority along with Justice League.

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@manofshazam: I may be the only person who doesn't want Lois and Steve Trevor to come into their lives....

You are CERTANLEY not only one.

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Ugh why is such a good creative team wasted on a nonsensical title? They could be renovating other areas of the New 52 and it's a shame to see their talents wasted on a fundamentally flawed series.

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Daniel's art looks amazing

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@johnqestion: Of she doesn't end and begin with Azzarello, which is why Perez MOST INTELLIGENTLY GOT RID OF THAT STUPID ALTER EGO!!!!!!!

She had it in Heinberg's run. Gail Simone's run, Picoult's run...in the classic TV show, the DTV movie, it was as much apart of her history as anything else. A good writer does not throw out the baby with the bathwater. WW can have an ID if the writers wants it and makes it work. It's about the writing. WW is doing what apart from playing with Gods in her book? At least Perez had her doing something with real people and a life outside of that involved interacting with regular folks as an Ambassador. So while he did not use the ID ...he respected her background and showed a positive spin on the Amazons. You can't talk Perez and Azz's take as one at all.

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Don't care if it's Tony D, I'm not interested even a little. Now Wonder Woman and Batman! Baby you've got a stew going!

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@lvenger said:

Ugh why is such a good creative team wasted on a nonsensical title? They could be renovating other areas of the New 52 and it's a shame to see their talents wasted on a fundamentally flawed series.

A shame for you, maybe. I don't buy other comics but certainly don't come making statements like this. You might not want it and what you think good I might think fundamentally flawed or not give a hoot to waste my money. But i sincerely doubt I'll waste time chasing down articles on those books to just spew hate at something other people might like.

Yes, I shall be buying this! I too have zero interest in Lois or Steve. Lois seems happy with her life and Steve...where is Etta? They need to develop her because she and Steve in the old verse had a nice thing. Fact it was the only time I liked Steve.

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I can't wait for this title, as soon as it was announced I was excited for it. And I agree, Tony Daniel's artwork is incredible and the way he draws Superman (and Wonder Woman for that matter) is fantastic. At first I didn't like the idea of Wonder Woman and Superman as a couple, but the more I think about it the more I love it. I may be the only person who doesn't want Lois and Steve Trevor to come into their lives....

Agreed

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A shame for you, maybe. I don't buy other comics but certainly don't come making statements like this. You might not want it and what you think good I might think fundamentally flawed or not give a hoot to waste my money. But i sincerely doubt I'll waste time chasing down articles on those books to just spew hate at something other people might like.

Yes, I shall be buying this! I too have zero interest in Lois or Steve. Lois seems happy with her life and Steve...where is Etta? They need to develop her because she and Steve in the old verse had a nice thing. Fact it was the only time I liked Steve.

I only make these statements when I have serious problems with the comic or the story in question. Putting together Superman and Wonder Woman in a relationship is not a good idea. They go together as well as chalk and cheese. That is to say that they do not work romantically at all. I wanted Clark to have a new love interest in the New 52, not a rehased inferior take on something that Elseworlds stories always do which is what we have here. Buy it if you want but don't come to me about the problems I have with the series. I can assure you that my grounds for disliking it are more than sound enough.

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I'm buying it just to look at Wonder Woman be sexy.

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Now when is Batman/Wonder woman? That's a team-up that'd be fun to see!

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@wolverine08 said:

I'm buying it just to look at Wonder Woman be sexy.

weirdo

Not weird. Just male tendencies.

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Comic book fans are hilarious. Up till now, everyone's been crying bloody murder and going on about how this series will suck and how nobody wants this and crap like that. Now suddenly everyone has open arms. Not pointing at anyone here, just strange seeing the overall atmosphere around a Superman/Wonder Woman article be positive for a change.

That said, this is on my pull list. And proud to say, it always has been.

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My favorite artist. I'm so picking this up even if it is $4. They're all going to be $4 soon enough anyways.

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I'll have to get this now. Tony's art always blows my mind.

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#43  Edited By sora_thekey

Is it wrong that I find myself more interested in this book than Superman/Batman?

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#44  Edited By CrashBang

Out of all the artists I've seen in the New 52, I like how Tony Daniel draws Superman the most. I'll probably buy one of the first issue variants just to have as a collector but I probably won't continue with it after that.

I feel the same; Daniel draws Superman beautifully. But I gave Soule's Swamp Thing a chance and it was so dull and his dialogue is very awkward. I don't know how the guy has suddenly been given three(?) titles by DC.

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#45  Edited By Sovereign91001

Amped up beyond belief for this title.

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#46  Edited By Johnni_Kun

@lvenger said:

Ugh why is such a good creative team wasted on a nonsensical title? They could be renovating other areas of the New 52 and it's a shame to see their talents wasted on a fundamentally flawed series.

I'm going to have agree. I already have wrote before(in other threads) why this "relationship" is a big problem for Wonder Woman's character.( and even Supes.) So, I'll focus on this book, since it's suppose to be more than "just about their relationship."

CS: Well obviously you have Superman and Wonder Woman together, which is not something we see often. We see the Justice League but Wonder Woman doesn't really pop up in the Superman titles and Superman doesn't really pop up in Wonder Woman's book. The idea that you can see them having adventures together is one of the things that absolutely makes it unique. There just isn't much else around like it.

This quote alone is more than enough to sum up what is so wrong about the "concept of this book." Mr. Soule can't even give a good reason of why this book is even here. Of course other than "It's Superman and Wonder Woman!" "They can have super sex." A team book need a great dynamic relationship, to keep the story interesting and worth the read. Taking characters like Superman and Wonder Woman, who are so much alike, means that this book is doomed to disappoint. The reason why books like Superman/Batman work, is because they are so different in their personally, and world. You can also tell in this interview of how the twist their answers to make sure not hurt the already bad opinion of this book.

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I'm buying it just to look at Wonder Woman be sexy.

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@johnni_kun: Exactly my problem with the Wonder Woman/Superman romance. They're too alike personality and thematically wise. The Pre Flashpoint universe showed why they would be good friends but never romantic partners. The Superman/Wonder Woman date issue laughed off any notion of them being romantically linked.

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