All right if you didn't understand the title then here is my question. How powerful would Superman be if nobody cared about consistency? Please include striking strength, lifting strength, attack potency, and please support answer with evidence.
Superman
Character » Superman appears in 18942 issues.
Sent to Earth as an infant from the dying planet Krypton, Kal-El was adopted by the loving Kent family and raised in America's heartland as Clark Kent. Using his immense solar-fueled powers, he became Superman to defend mankind against all manner of threats while championing truth, justice, and the American way!
If we ignore consistency the how powerful would Post Crisis Superman be?
Superman:
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Universal durability.
Octillions of time faster than light in travel.
Probably Universal striking.
Infinite lifting.
@thekinfing: Thank you for the answer, but do you have any scans, I only have a couple that give him universal attack potency.
If we ignore consistency and just take characters at their highest level with both feats and statements?
You are going to love Narutoforums and Vsbattles. Both websites full of people who love to pretend that they read comic books.
http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Superman_(Post-Crisis)
@sirneko: But they have Superman labeled as solar system level not universal like Kingfing said.
@thekinfing said:
Universal durability.
Octillions of time faster than light in travel.
Probably Universal striking.
Infinite lifting.
I agree with durability and lifting but where did you get the striking and speed from? His best striking feat statement is shaking our star system, a star system is a system of stars, basically the galaxy. And his best speed feat is blitzing Superboy Prime to Krypton's "remains" which in the Post-Crisis continuity was in the Andromeda Galaxy, his speed can be calculated to around 1.3 trillion times the speed of light.
@thekinfing said:
Universal durability.
Octillions of time faster than light in travel.
Probably Universal striking.
Infinite lifting.
I agree with durability and lifting but where did you get the striking and speed from? His best striking feat statement is shaking our star system, a star system is a system of stars, basically the galaxy. And his best speed feat is blitzing Superboy Prime to Krypton's "remains" which in the Post-Crisis continuity was in the Andromeda Galaxy, his speed can be calculated to around 1.3 trillion times the speed of light.
You've never heard of the "shattering the boundaries of space and time" feat?
@danieldaripper: I have but it has wierd context.
@darkhoudini: The only context I didn't understand was the boundaries part since I've never heard of the boundaries of space and time before.
@danieldaripper: Context like the multiverse and “time and space” being tampered with and warped as the fight was happening. To be honest the feat can be argued both ways since nothing is said concretely.
@danieldaripper: Context like the multiverse and “time and space” being tampered with and warped as the fight was happening. To be honest the feat can be argued both ways since nothing is said concretely.
I know about the multiverse but the boundaries part was confusing since DC states there are infinite universes.
@sirneko: But they have Superman labeled as solar system level not universal like Kingfing said.
You could probably find few outlier feats to make him Universal.
@sirneko: I have some actually but I don't know whats the big deal about vsbattlewikis and why they are unreliable.
There is nothing inherently wrong about the vsbattles wiki. The community takes the context of feats and statements very seriously, especially with popular characters. People with fandom accounts are free to make a revision thread and debate with other members on the validity of your claims and evidence.
In regards to the "shattering the boundaries of space and time" for PC Superman, similar happenings occurred with much weaker characters in other series. The statement of itself and the panels of that comic. (Adventures of Superman Vol 1 #649 April 2006; Infinite Crisis Vol 1 #5 April 2006) Some may attribute this occurrence to Superman's limited time-space manipulation.
Another instance of vague feats is Superman destroying a Destroyer. (Final Crisis: Superman Beyond Vol 1 #2 March 2009) A Destroyer is a ship created by the Monitors meant to sterilize universes and has "reality blitzing" missiles. Just by the description of the feat itself, it is too vague to properly gauge. We can tell that it is not a universe level feat since the ship is meant to destroy life, not the universe itself. The "Reality blitzing" missiles are also vague as it doesn't describe the extent of its reality blitzing abilities. Is it's range and effectiveness the size of a planet, a star, smaller, or larger? It is unclear.
@firestorm808: didn't zillo villa stop time for them to reach the destroyer and fly through the frozen missiles before they were launched??
@nightmarediablo712: Time was stopped in the normal Universe. The higher dimensions weren't affected.
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