How would YOU write Superman?

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#1 Posted by OrangeBat (961 posts) - - Show Bio

Since I'm on a Superman binge, and we had a thread like this on the Batman forum, why the hell not. Pretend DC had a clean slate reboot, and you're called upon to write Superman for the modern age:

1) How would you write the Man of Steel himself? Personality? True identity? Civilian life? Powers? Intellect? Skills? Technology? Pets? Base?

2) How would you write Krypton? Life on it? Flora and fauna? History? Relevance to Superman's adventures? Would you Superman more of a space-faring adventurer, like Silver Age Superman or the Fantastic Four?

3) How would you write Metropolis? Smallville? Other locations where Superman goes to? Would you make him limited to Metropolis, or go global and be to the whole planet what Batman is to Gotham?

4) His supporting cast? His friendships? His romantic relationships? His allies? What would you alter?

5) His rogues' gallery? What would you change? What would you add? What would you remove?

And do be creative. Let's not stick to the same old tried and true (or perhaps do). Expand your horizons (or perhaps not).

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#2 Posted by TheIncredibleSuperHulk8642 (4587 posts) - - Show Bio

@orangebat: I think I'd opt more for a short 6-12 issue story focusing on an in depth character arc for Superman. Taking inspiration from rich and beautiful stories like All Star, Birthright, Red Son, For All Seasons, Secret Identity, Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow etc.

Really diving into the core of who the character is and why he matters. Idk if it'd be at the start of his career, the end or just the present.

For sure I'd love to tackle villains like Lex, Zod, Brainiac, Darkseid, Mongul, Mxy as well as give relevance to guys like metallo and parasite. Also the fanboy in me wants to write a Superman vs Black Adam story very badly aha.

Not much to go off of but I'd have to think much more about it. Good thread idea though!

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#3 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (16603 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't be asked to go into details but it would be great.

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  1. Superman would be a relaxed, observant, somewhat cocky person. His true identity only comes out whenever he is surrounded only by people he fully trusts, otherwise he amps up the confidence and super-heroic-ness when he's Superman, and the insecurity whenever he is Clark, and, as Elliot S! Maggin put it, never changing the volume of his voice or his posture (though I'd make Clark a very proud person). His main conflict would be trying to figure out what the "good" thing to do really is. I'd put him in situations where, yes, his powers can instantly defuse the conflict, but won't solve it long-term. His powers are the standard ones, with his true strength and speed being vague (though while on Earth he'd refrain from going too fast due to the shockwave), and perhaps including minor shapeshifting/muscle control to better justify the Clark Kent facade. He'd be constantly exercising and practicing kryptonian martial arts (and boxing), specifically ones that allow him to fight completely on "instinct" (since he would be fighting way to rely on sound or light). As for skills, I'd emphasize his interest in science, and make him a particularly subtle interviewer. His technology would include the robots, the phantom zone proyector, a suit that can protect him from radiation and store sunlight, etc. I'm undecided on pets, but the Fortress of Solitude would be outside regular space and accessed through boomtubes in Metropolis, Smallville and the Arctic, with other smaller fortresses around the world in conventional space.
  2. Krypton would be a highly advanced scientific society. A misterious being has been destroying their colonies around the universe and they are strengthening their military to be able to better face this seemingly apocaliptic threat. Jor-El finds out about the impending explosion, but while the Council believes him, they find the time frame he has given questionable (and have reasons to do so). It wouldn't have much to do with Superman save his connections to Zod, Brainiac, Xa Du, and maybe this mysterious being. Superman would have regular space adventures. The idea of the "S" symbol (though not the "S" symbol itself) would come from Krypton.
  3. Metropolis would be the City of Tomorrow, full of sci-fi craziness that seems normal to them, constantly being lost in the time-stream, colliding with alternate universes, swapping bodies with each other, etc. Basically as much of Silver Age craziness as you could, except the citizens would be beyond being amazed by it. Smallville... would basically remain what it's always been, though Metropolis would be the closest "big city". The stories in the Superman book would be focused in Metropolis, while the ones in Action Comics would be global or space-based.
  4. Among them:
    • Lois Lane would start the book on an assignment in another country. She'd have her own book, and wouldn't return to Metropolis and meet Clark until she is fully established on her own.
    • The Daily Planet would be a small news agency, the last one of a series of failed news agencies by Perry White, who has fought corruption all his life and accomplished nothing. Still, Clark is attracted to the Daily Planet due to Perry's perseverance.
    • Jimmy would be, as Grant Morrison puts it, someone who Superman would want to hang out with: constantly doing outlandish things (either because he wants to or by freak-accident) while not realising they are anything out of the ordinary. Though he'd be a but cynical on the idea of Superman truly being able to fix Metropolis.
    • Cat Grant would remain as she is, and I'd have her briefly date Clark. Steve Lombard and Ron Troupe would remain part of the supporting cast.
    • Lana Lang would have moved on from Clark long ago, eventually dating and marrying John Henry Irons.
    • John Henry would first be the guy Superman goes to when he needs to discuss science, developing into a more heroic figure over time until finally donning the Steel suit to help Clark fight Luthor.
    • I'm not sure if I'd include Supergirl in the mix, and I'd make Clark's interaction's wit the larger DCU very limited, except perhaps with the GLs.
    • I'd take out the Legion. They are great characters with great stories, but it cheapens Superman's whole deal if he knows since adolescence that he'll be such a great hero he'll inspire people a thousand years from now.
  1. Oh boy:
    • Lex Luthor would be a mix between Millar's and Azzarello's, an almost absurdly smart man who KNOWS he can't possibly beat Superman (until he creates the warsuit with Brainiac technology, at least), so he does his best to destroy who he is as a symbol. His motivation is mostly envy, but he constantly lies to himself that it's truly because of humanitarian reasons. Deep down, though, he knows he doesn't really care about other people. He'd also be definitely defeated in Steel's debut as a superhero, and not seen again for a long while, to symbolize that Superman has defeated his usual point (that he is dragging humanity down) by inspiring a human to do what he does.
    • I'm still figuring Brainiac out, but I'd emphasize his desire to acquire knowledge ove his desire to collect planets. He'd have sleeper agents on various planets that are constantly collecting data on how its inhabitants live (Milton Fine would be one of these).
    • Zod would be the mutual friend through whom Jor-El and Lara met. He'd also be Kal-El's godfather. The son of a couple of criminals, he'd have learned to boast of his last name as a defense mechanism from the constant insults it brought him growing up, and even resurrected an old Kryptonian custom of wearing the family shield on his chest. Jor-El befriends him over their ambition to carve their way to the top, and even jokingly imitates him by using the El family crest, though he eventually changes it to the sun symbol. The loss of Kandor has a huge effect on him, and when Jor-El tells him of Krypton's inminent destruction, he tries to stage a coup to do something. Jor-El hesitates to help him, and Zod's rebellion fails due to the lack of support. Zod screams at Jor-El and Lara that they are both cowards, that they knew what had to be done but refused to do it, and now the entire planet, their infant son included, would die becuase of it. Once outside of the Phantom Zone and on Earth, he'd try to guide Clark into a more "proactive" (read: dictatorial) approach to help humankind, but Clark would refuse. Once new Phantom Zone criminals get released, Zod would make it his priority to help them, while Clark would be wary of them. After fighting over it a few times, including an occassion where Zod takes over a country wrecked by civil wars, they'd eventually reconcile... just in time for Zod to be killed by Metallo.
    • Metallo would be a proffesional hitman whose brother dies due to Superman's actions (or inactions). He'd spend some time hunting kryptonite upon learning it can hurt him, to finally try to use it to kill Superman but failing, and almost dying as a result. He forces proffessor Emmet Vale into doing anything to save him, and Vale transforms him into the cyborg. After a series of failed attempts to kill Superman (none of which are simply waltzing into Metropolis and picking a fight), he'd form an organization which would include analogues of every previous version of Metallo, to kill Superman, and he'd infiltrate the military and convince a New52 Metallo analogue that Superman must be destroyed. He eventually kills most of the Pahntom Zone criminals and Zod before being stopped by Superman.
    • Xa-Du would replace Zod in the "space tyrant" category, because wackyness.
    • Parasite would be this: https://davidmann95.tumblr.com/post/153116354046/also-while-luthor-is-able-to-thrive-as-ceo-or-mad. I'd also include another Parasite-like enemy who would take advantage of the tragic aspects of the character.
    • Atomic Skull would team up with a female supervillain (maybe Livewire?) and be the supervillain version of Bonnie and Clyde (the movie, not the actual criminals). Because comedy.
    • Mongul would be more "ruler of a gladiator planet" than "random space tyrant". He'd also worship Darkseid, who wouldn't be a Superman villain.
    • I'd replace Toyman for someone like the Monkey King (https://comicvine.gamespot.com/monkey-king/4005-27821/): a supernatural entity who would prey on children's fears. It'd be there whenever we need a horror story, and since it is not a physical being Superman can't simply punch/heat-vision it.
    • Prankster would be as he was in Kurt Busiek's run: a supervillain who is there as a distraction for other supervillains.
    • Mr. Mxyzptlk would have the role he's usually had, except he'd also ocassionally dump Superman into alternate universes to challenge him. This way we have a reason to include Elseworld stories in the main comics with an in-character Superman.
    • I haven't given Bizarro enough thought to include him.
    • An idea I had would be an arc where several Superman villains would be the seven deadly sins: Zod would be Pride, Luthor would be Envy, Metallo would be Wrath, Mxyzptlk would be Sloth, Parasite would be Gluttony and Brainiac would be Lust (for knowledge). I'm undecided on who would be Greed, though preferably a female supervillain.
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#5 Posted by SaintWildcard (21844 posts) - - Show Bio

Already wrote a huge map laying out how I would do an animated series

Link-https://comicvine.gamespot.com/superman/4005-1807/forums/my-superman-tas-map-thoughts-1862717/

The gist of it is

I'm taking the structure of Avatar TLA, and applying it to Grant Morrison's origin. But also fixing sometthings that I think he didn't do that I thought he should of. It's taking him from Farmboy to Icon. Each Season has a theme and most characters have an arc to them.

Season 1- Man of Steel: Deals with Clark barely getting to the city and how he becomes a public hero. The season deals with the man and his human upbringing. His threats and problems are all earth based. He's the social crusader that Grant started him off as.

Season 2- Last Son of Krypton: It mostly deals with his alien heritage, since now he knows he's a Kryptonian, and all the baggage that comes with it since Kryptonian's have a rough history. This season is all about the Sci Fi aspect to the character.

Season 3- Man of Tomorow: The God season. This season deals with Clark finally fully accepting his role as an icon and becoming a leader. The forming of the JL and the Superman Family. As well as the epic conclusion.

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#6 Edited by SaintWildcard (21844 posts) - - Show Bio

@quinlan58: Giving your post a read later. *tagged*

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Personality:

His personality would be an anagram of all the great iterations of the character. He'd be a relaxed, caring, confident/cocky person, full of patience and empathy for any creature or person he meets. He has fun being Superman, saving people, and while he was raised to be a good person, he dons the cape because he wants to, not because he feels he has to. When you see Superman, as powerful as he is, he still seems easily approachable, like the best friend you've never met. He's like that guy who remembers your name and one cool thing about you, or how y'all met, even if you guys only met once years ago. However, as cool and approachable he may be, there's a power inside him that anyone can sense. He carries himself with full knowledge of this power, always in a relaxed, casually confident way. He knows he can come off as cocky but he doesn't mind though, because what's wrong with confidence? He believes in second chances, third even, but he's not afraid to get serious. And, even though he was raised to value all life, when it comes down to it, he'll take a life if he has to. (Think OWaW level of necessity).

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True Identity:

This is something that a lot of fans clash on. Usually the clash is Superman vs Clark Kent, which is his real side. The problem is they're forgetting about Kal-El. That is his true identity. Even in todays comics, Superman understands that he's not human. He may live among humans, protect humans, love humans, and give his life for humans, but he is still an Alien. So, in my interpretation, Kal-El is his "true identity". He still refers to himself as Clark Kent, he still lives by the values instilled in him by his human parents, but in his heart he's Kal-El, last son of Krypton, and adopted son of Earth.

Civilian Life:

He works for the Daily Planet (online/print/whatever) as a reporter/writer on the disenfranchised. He's not as clumsy or corny as the traditional "Clark Kent" persona. For the most part, he's himself, albeit a lot more reserved. He really just blends in, nothing particularly special about him or anything. He's still super likable, but nothing about him screams "hero". In fact, the most interesting thing about Clark Kent (to people who don't know his secret) is wondering how the hell he pulled Lois Lane?!

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Powers:

He's a planetary character. Strong enough to move large planets, bust them through striking power, withstand the heat of the sun with ease, fly and fight FTL, withstand extreme damage equal to or above his own damage output and more. His Heat Vision is as hot as the sun and his cold breath reaches absolute zero. He has super memory, and thanks to his reaction/processing speed, he can calculate large equations faster than any computer. He's smart, but only as smart as your typical college graduate who majored in Journalism and reads an array of subjects/fiction for fun. He's no super genius. He's a pretty good fighter as well though. When he met the league he had no fighting skill at all due to never having anyone on his level to train with. But, after training with Wonder Woman and Batman (under a red sun amplifying lamp), he's more than proficient in boxing and wrestling. He also still keeps the alien tech in his Fortress of Solitude. As far as weaknesses go, the magic vulnerability is gone completely. Red Sun exposure saps his powers, and green, the only color, kryptonite can prove fatal if left unchecked.

Also, no solar flare, but he has full control of his bodily temperature.

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Krypton/Earth

Krypton is a mixture of MoS and the Silver Age. While it isn't a Utopia, Krypton was at the height of it's society. It's people were thriving, Krypton was in a golden age. Children were born naturally, but given aptitude test in their youth. One could possibly exceed the expectations of the initial test, but it was rare.

Earth is....Earth. Metropolis is the city of Tomorrow, mostly due to the scientific advances and business ventures of it's richest citizen -- Lex Luthor. Smallville is a medium sized town, with a large focus on farming. Everybody knows everybody, and it's citizens give off that typical, friendly farmer vibe.

Herorics:

Superman would be a pretty universal hero, with a focus on Earth/his own solar system. Universally though, his heroic motivation is to stick up for people who can't stick up for themselves and to support people when they need help. He's just as likely to divert a flood, or fly to the next system to stop an asteroid from destroying a planet as he is to fight against some super villain. As Clark Kent he fights for the disenfranchised using his journalism. He doesn't go for the big stories of corruption like Lois, but he advocates for funding to inner cities, reports on crimes that may be overlooked, stuff like that.

Supporting Cast:

Lois Lane

Superman meets Lois Lane interning for the daily planet in College. They immediately hit it off, but only as friends, since both are dating other people. They keep in touch, and after college, they're reunited at the Daily Planet. Unlike the Byrne reboot, Superman isn't obsessed with Lois from the jump. His love for her grows over the years and he makes the ultimate leap of faith when he willingly reveals his secret. They begin a relationship, get married, and have a son named Jon. But i'm also cool extending the will/they won't they for a while. Personality wise, Lois is pretty close to her normal characterization. She's a brazen, self-confident, wired pulitzer prize winning journalist. Unlike Clark she's not approachable, not because she's rude or anything, she just has a huge personality.

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Pete Ross and Loss Lang

His best childhood friends are Pete Ross and Lana Lang. They all grew up living close to each other, and both discovered his secret, happening upon Clark as he...does something cool IDK. They decide to keep his secret and it only brings the three of them closer. After High School and College, they all keep in touch, but their relationship reflects a more realistic, lifelong friendship. They don't see Clark everyday, they don't gain super powers, or become villains, they're just normal -- normal humans who keep a secret for their childhood best friend. They both end up as an extra-terrestial scientist, Lana focusing on tech, and Pete on cultures/biology and sometimes assist Clark when needed. Also,they frequently joined Clark on his teenage adventures with the LoS.

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Jimmy Olsen

Supermans "best friend" is Jimmy Olsen, a young kid interning for the Daily Planet who always seems to find himself in trouble, usually mutated or kidnapped somehow. The "best friend" angle is Lois teasing Clark since Clark finds the kid cool but annoying. The kid gets in so much trouble, Superman found it necessary to give him a watch that goes off whenever his life is in danger.

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Supergirl

Kidnapped by Brainiac and kept in stasis as a 16 year old girl, Supergirl is Supermans older, younger cousin. After her rescue she has a hard time adjusting to the planet, due to her power and difference in culture, so she's put under the care of Wonder Woman, and watched over by Superman and Batman. After a time she becomes comfortable enough to live among humans so Batman forges some papers for her, and Superman adopts his cousin. Supergirl is still a 16 year old girl despite her actually nearing 50 years old, so she's a little immature. She's anxious, sarcastic, erratic, funny and easily annoyed. She sees her super heroics as an extra curricular activity, inspired by her cousin to help people when she can. Superman has problems getting her to listen, but Lois is able to vibe with her.

Powers wise, compared to Superman she's the equivalent of an athletic teenage girl compared to an athletic, naturally strong grown man.

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Ma and Pa Kent

Not much is going to change about the Kents. They're inherently good people who instilled a want for heroism in Superman. If anything does change, I guess, it's that they're a lot more modern and less *perfect*. They were against Supermans heroics as a child, but only because they wanted to protect him. When he finally becomes Superman, they're ecstatic and supportive. Superman loves his parents and was particularly close with his father, who dies from a heart attack during an attack on Metropolis. At this time in his career, Superman was pretty cocksure, but his inability to save his father from a simple heart attack instills the humility in him his parents were never really able to. After his fathers death, he makes sure to keep up with his mom on a daily basis,

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Jor-El and Lara

While he never knew them personally, Superman still loves and draws inspiration from his real parents. He's proud of the fact that they were also good people, heroes and extraordinary in their own right. Jor-El was was born to be a laborer in Kryptons society, but he had dreams of being a scientist. It's very rare for one to exceed the level of ones placement on Krypton, but Jor-El was able to do so through sheer tenacity. When he finally made it to the Kryptonian equivalent of University to be a scientist, he meets Lara who is studying to enter Kryptons political sphere in an effort to get rid of Kryptonian aptitude placements and they fall in love. Jor-El also meets Zod and the two form a friendship that last until his death. 15 years before the destruction of Krypton, while Jor, Zod, and Lara were still in school, Brainiac attacks. The whole planet engages in war against him, and Jor-El and Zod distinguish themselves, Zod on the battlefield and Jor-El by figuring out how to repel him. After the war Jor-El notices problems with the core, but the only ones who believe him are Zod and Lara. After Zods failed coup, Jor-El realizes the planet is doomed, and with Laras help, he sends his newborn son to Earth.

The only contact Superman has with his parents are videos they took before they sent him off, where they introduce themselves, talks about their lives, and so forth.

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Extra Support:

Supermans best friends are Batman and Wonder Woman. He had a small fling with Wonder Woman when they first met, but they soon realized they were better off as friends. He and Batman clashed initially, but their relationship grew into a friendly rivalry as they got to know each other. He's great friends with the rest of the league as well.

Villains:

I'm just going to go over his main villains. Besides the one listed here, his rogue gallery also includes villains like the Atomic Skull, Parasite (whose characterization i'm gonna model from the one @quinlan58 included), Xa-Du, and more.

Lex Luthor

His arch-nemesis is obviously, and clearly, Lex Luthor. I like the idea of Lex and Clark growing up together, but never being friends, nor directly associating often. The years of indirect association though, support Clarks mistrust of Lex. He knows Lex Luthor is a villain despite the facade he puts on for the public. Lex is a self-made man, always knowing he was meant for great things. He's extremely smart, petty, selfish, obsessed with recognition, narcissistic, and prone to jealously/envy. By the time Superman appears on the scene Lex is already running an extremely successful company. He's completely fine with Superman until he notices the support and love he garners exceeds the level he's ever received. From there, jealousy fosters, and Lex convinces himself that Superman is a threat to human ingenuity. And honestly, he really does believe this...but he doesn't really care. He's driven by jealousy, so blinded that he actually thinks he's the hero. To put it simply, this is the Lex that cures cancer, then holds it ransom because people like Superman more than him for some reason he just can't get.

While he isn't a physical threat towards Superman, even in his armor, his intellect makes him extremely dangerous. He's able to easily outsmart Superman yet always underestimates his willpower and perceptiveness. He also created a lot of Supermans most dangerous villains like Doomsday and Metallo.

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Zod

Zod is close to his MoS iteration. He's a Kryptonian general and loyalist, willing to do anything to preserve his people. He was best friends with Jor-El and was actually expected to be the godfather of baby Kal. He supported Jor-Els theory that Krypton was doomed, but felt the council needed to be strong armed and forced to listen. His rebellion fails and Zod, along with his two surviving followers, Non and Faora, are sentenced to prison on one of Kryptons moons. After a year or so, they witness the destruction of their planet, and the A.I that ran the facility shuts down, allowing them to escape. Zod recalls Jor mentioning a planet called Earth during one of his visits so they set out to find it. They arrive 30 years later, expecting to see a flourishing Kryptonian society. Instead, they find humans, and a Kryptonian named Kal-El protecting them. Zod is initially ecstatic that his best friends son survived. He tries to convince Superman to help him take over and create a new Krypton, but Superman refuses. Zod is motivated by a desire to create a new Krypton, yet haunted by the possibility that he may have to kill his godson to do so. He's even had the chance to kill Superman multiple times, but he can't quite get himself to pull the trigger. Superman respects him a lot, and usually their fights end with Zod and crew being banished. Eventually Zod will set out on a personal vendetta against Brainiac, and further along the line maybe create a New Krypton. I don't see him being a permanent villain.

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Brainiac

Brainiac is one of Supermans most powerful enemies. He's a world conquering, universal menace hellbent on collecting civilizations and people. He truly believes he's doing the right thing since he preserves these cultures long after their natural lifespan, gifting them with immortality as he calls it, in a way his people never had. He kidnapped the Kryptonian city of Kandor, and Supergirl along with it. The war he fought against Krypton is what led to the destabilization of the core, and it's eventual destruction years later. This only bolstered Brainiacs views, and when discovers another living Kryptonian as well as a new civilization, he makes a move to add them to his collection. Superman defeats him, saves his cousin, but is unable to save the rest of the Kandorians who Brainiac executes in anger. After this, Brainiacs motivation to get the last two remaining Kryptonians increases tenfold.

As far as powers go, Brainiac has super physicals (speed, durability, strength), yet not truly comparable to a Kryptonian. He's super smart yet not as smart as Lex Luthor. However, he's in possession of a universe worths of weapons, many of which can bring the Man of Steel to his knees.

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DOOMSDAY

DOOMSDAY...the mutated abomination of a Kandorian Kryptonian that Lex Luthor stole from Brainiac. Physically, he's the most powerful opponent Superman has ever faced. The monster has no empathy, no emotion, and no thought besides destruction. The monster doesn't evolve after death, but after surviving things that don't kill him. Lex realized this, and instead of setting him on Superman decides to banish the monster to the voids of space. Doomsday makes it back to earth and battles Superman in a fight that spans the solar system, and ends in both their deaths. After it's death, there are many attempts to create another Doomsday but none are as powerful as the original.

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Mr. Myx

Mr. Myx...Supermans friend....Supermans (fr)enemy....?? Who knows?! It's all up to how he feels! From Supermans perspective, he's more of an annoyance that causes trouble for him in the name of entertainment. And, entertainment is literally all it is to Myx, very close to his n52 iteration. He's also responsible for resurrecting Superman after his battle with Doomsday.

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Manchester Black

A British ex superhero who becomes jaded by his inability to make a difference as a hero. So, he becomes an anti-hero and kills villains instead. He thinks Superman is going about everything wrong, and tries his best to turn him to his way of doing things. Overall he's pretty similar to his canon iteration. Look at the included picture to get a taste for his personality (hint: Tool)

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Bizzaro merged with Ultraman

Kyl-El from an alternate universe who contrast with the main Superman in various ways. Krypton was still destroyed, but it was an accident courtesy of the worst scientist the planet has ever seen, Jor-El. Right before it's destruction he's able to send his son to earth, and he lands in the hands of 2 bit, petty criminals John and Martha Kent. They raise him as their own, using his powers to get rich and live a life of luxury. Clark Kent grew up a major brat. He also has no respect for authority, choosing instead to become the authority on his planet. He pretty much creates a dictatorship, ruling earth as Ultraman, the most loved hero of all....from his perspective. One day he suddenly finds himself on the main earth and discovers that the main universes kryptonite gives him a major high, something he was never able to experience before. But...it kind of makes him crazy as well...sort of like acid...or just a mean drunk, and he slurs his words, doesn't make sense, and just acts extremely bizarre. He chases this high every few months, causing destruction on his earth and main earth. Superman is just really disappointed in his junkie, douchebag doppleganger.

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#8 Posted by OrangeBat (961 posts) - - Show Bio

@quinlan58: That's what I'm talking about. Out of the box thinking. I especially like what you're doing with Zod, except killing him off.

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#9 Posted by Quinlan58 (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

@orangebat: the problem with my version of Zod is that there is no way I can keep him a villain for long, he'd either end up fully reformed and an ally or die. So I took the more dramatic choice.

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#10 Posted by Costy21 (1032 posts) - - Show Bio

Just the way he is now. I would give him a power boost so that he can be the best from the Justice League .

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I'd probably take a radically traditional yet different direction with my take on Superman. First of all, I'd have him be allot older than he actually looks like say over a century, complete with the grey hair around the sides like Kal-L once had. In other words like the image below.

Old Kal-L.
Old Kal-L.

Of course I'd have him debut in 1939 at the age of 24, as well as entertain the idea that Kryptonians grow more powerful as they get older under a yellow sun. Kyrpton in this case would be a combination of the versions found in the Golden Age, the 2003 series Superman: Secret Origins, the novel The Last Days of Krypton and the Smallville series/1978 Movie in terms of How Jor-L would kinda look as well as how Clark got the fortress. Clark would be more of a vigilante in his early years as was in the Golden Age, taking on social problems and evils as well as lawful ones with words, kidnapping, and aggression and sometimes putting others at risk with a tendency to take a softer approach when it came to children. Eventually, he'd end up toning himself down during the war out of shame towards his more ''illegal'' actions, becoming more of a public servant and model citizen with a somewhat smug attitude yet a non nonsense approach to crime and evil. Although he'd still have moments of relapse.

Christmas 1940: Superman teaching rich youth James Daniels a lesson about gratitude and privilege.
Christmas 1940: Superman teaching rich youth James Daniels a lesson about gratitude and privilege.

Jon Kent (born in 1953) from Rebirth would be his son and Clark himself would be semi retired, the main focus being on his son and grandson (who in my take would be Conner born in 1990,) and their supporting casts, except for the stories that take place from 1939 to 1983. Metropolis itself would start off as more of a cleaner and ever so slightly smaller version of New York, before becoming a lot more futuristic thanks to the actions of Brainiac, literally becoming a ''City of the Future'' with science fiction-esc aspects such as robots, sliding doors with key cards, flying cars and a very futuristic monorail system and designs like oddly shaped buildings, similar to the Metropolis seen in the Animated Series. (to the point where even Suicide Slums looks like something out of Radford's 1984 mixed with the 1st RoboCop.) In other words, it'd be more of a tribute to Fritz Lang's and Rintaro's Metropolis', (minus the more dystopian aspects) as well as taking cues from the DCAU version.

The Ultra-Humanite would still be the Superman Family's greatest foe, (along with Mxyzptlk and Zod) with Luthor and his descendants taking up a sort of Baron Zemo type role in events. The original Luthor, Lex, (the fat, bald mad scientist version with the purple jumpsuit,) would have died in combat with Superman in 1969 during a plot by Luthor to sabotage the moon landing in order to turn the Moon into a death star-esc satellite in order to take over the world. His current descendant would be an enemy of Conner's, be a female and probably be running a LexCorp type business as a cover. Supposedly wanting to ''Cleanse herself of her family's past.'' She would also be a puppet for the Humanite.

Young Superman
Young Superman

Most of the original Superman's foes would be ones from the Golden Age and Early Silver Age with the more recent additions going to Jon and HIS son, although all three would have their own Bizarro. Most of these villains would mostly be unchanged from what we know them as today with some minor alterations such as Metallo being pretty much immortal, changing cosmetically over time as he was upgraded. The editors of the Daily Planet would be George Taylor, then Perry White, then Clark Kent, then James Olson (who would Marry Lana Lang once she moved on from Clark.) and finally Morgan Edge who would, in time, completely change the Planet's format from paper to digital. Lois would be long dead and seen only in stories in the 53 year time scale previously mentioned.

Jimmy would also be dead, but would have died a few years after Lois. Jon and Martha Kent would not have died before Clark moved to Metropolis, but via an alien attack on the Kent farm 13 years into their son's tenure.

Supergirl would be the same character of course, only she would come to Earth as a pre-teen rather than a teen in the 1950s, and would grow up in time to become Super Woman. Her origins would be a combo of the original Silver Age ones as well as the version from 2003. Power Girl would be slightly different in that she would be Kara's daughter. The rest of the other Superman esc characters like Cyborg Superman, Steel and Eradicator would appear during the Jon Era. (and it would subsequently be Jon's Superman who would be involved in the ''Death of Superman'' story line.) The Superboy Mythos would be that Clark would have been the original Superboy in the late 1920s, with Jon and later Conner taking up the mantle before becoming Superman as adults. All three Superboys would protect Smallville as ordained by family tradition.

In terms of Hideouts, Superman would have two. His original Secret Citadel up in the Mountains above Metropolis, which would become Jon's and then Conner's HQ and the Fortress of Solitude up in the arctic which would be where Clark would set up shop at 1st as a Trophy room/intergalactic zoo and finally as a place of residence/Base of Operations once his loved ones started to die off from old age. Kara would live there too following the death of her husband and both would take care of each other during their Autumnal years.

Outwardly it would have the design of the New 52 Fortress, but would have all the trappings of the original Silver Age Version with holograms and memory crystals like the Smallville take and robots like the ones seen in Superman:Earth One. (I'm sure Conner and Jon would find a way to link it up to the internet somehow as well.) It would also be a retirement home for the original Super-pets, who would also keep the two company. Krypto in particular, since he'd been Kal's companion since his days as Superboy.

The Secret Citadel
The Secret Citadel
The Fortress of Solitude
The Fortress of Solitude

As for Clark Kent, I.E. the Clark everyone knew as a slightly bumbling reporter and later a firm, wise but fair and kind editor for the planet, he would be believed by most of the world to be dead from old age as, after the Death of Lois, Kal-L would have decided to retire that identity for good. As a result, his personality would be allot different. He'd be a pleasant old gentleman to be sure. No nonsense, gentle, polite, wise, optimistic for a large part and have remnants of his socialist ''Champion of the Oppressed'' personality which would make him very openly critical of the actions and attitudes of the rich and corrupt given his own history of dealing with them, and would be more sympathetic to the little guy. However he'd also be more...tired, sad and bitter due to his old age and loss of loved ones over the years, as well as slightly apathetic. He'd still want to do good and help people of course, but it'd be more scaled back to simpler things like rescuing kittens from trees and stopping organised crime, all of which would be done in the shadows, while leaving the major problems like protecting and saving lives, disasters, major crime, super villainy, putting out fires, assisting over seas, general public services and world threatening events such as alien invasions and attacks from Apokolips (as well as the majority of kitten saving and crime busting.) to Jon, Conner and Power Girl.

As superman Jon would be more of the idealist boy scout we know from post crisis and rebirth, whereas Conner, both as Superboy and Superman, would take up more after his grandfather circa 1939, acting as a champion of the oppressed. His main target of interest being the ills of society (among the rest of his duties) and not being unwilling to bend or go above/against the law in order to fight corruption and evil as Kal-L had done early into his own tenure. He'd be allot more aggressive towards criminals than his father and in some cases grandfather. He wouldn't kill, mind, plus he'd be a generally kind and realistically nice guy to those who he felt deserved it, but would drop that attitude towards those he felt deserved nothing less than his worst.

In terms of power, I'd let him retain his minor telekinetic abilities as well. In universe, Conner would be considered the most powerful Superman of all because of it, making him him loved by many, but distrusted and feared by a lot. This in turn would act as a comedic bit of embarrassment and humility for his grandfather, who would by no means remember his more ''vigilante'' style days with much pride as well as acting as a more serious concern for Jon "Pa" Kent, both of whom would try to cool down their angry descendant. Also, both Jon and Conner would have their own costumes as Superman. Both fitting their respective time periods very well all things considered.

Jon's Costume circa 1986
Jon's Costume circa 1986
Conner's Costume circa 2015.
Conner's Costume circa 2015.

Also in terms of Power, the 3 would be mostly the same, except for Conner's telekinesis, However, they would all start off with limited powers before they matured fully at the age of 27. Clark for example when he 1st started his career, would be able to lift steel beams over his head, leap one eighth of a mile at a time, have a strong lung capacity, outrun a speeding train and as Action Comics #1 put it. ''Nothing short of a bursting shell could pierce his skin.'' Plus he'd also have x-ray vision. By the time they hit 27 however, they would transform from citywide heroes to planetary ones, complete with heat vision, flight, nigh invulnerability to all but magic and kryptonite, ice breath, super hearing, telescopic vision, even better super speed, the ability to breath in the vacuum of space and advanced Super Strength. Finally, the younger Supermen would carry on the ''catchphrase habit'' traditions of ''Grandpa'' Kent. "This looks like a job for Superman." Up, Up, and away!" and of course "Great Scott!" Why? Because why not? It's fun. :)

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#12 Posted by SaintWildcard (21844 posts) - - Show Bio

@quinlan58: We have many things that are similar in our pitches. Mainly how Zod is handled (MoS Zod is best Zod) and kinda why Clark is a boyscoutt Alpha male hero. I align myself with how John Byrne viewed it, that Clark is the Main personality for the most part. He is CLark Kent and always has been, why should he change that? Taking out Legion, agreed on reasons why. The Lana/Henry relationship was a great change up by Pak, and I loved their dynamic even though I never bothered putting it in my pitch.

I had a similar idea (the Deadly sins thing), except as a huge event deal. Golden Age Lex is wanting to destroy all creation, and enlists Darkseid (War), Mandrakk (Famine), Silver Age Mxy from Whatever Happened to the man of Tomorrow (pestilence) and Nekron (death).

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#13 Posted by SaintWildcard (21844 posts) - - Show Bio

Gonna post a shortned up version of some of the major change ups/overall gist of how I would do it.

1) How would you write the Man of Steel himself? Personality? True identity? Civilian life? Powers? Intellect? Skills? Technology? Pets? Base?

Personality- He's just a farmboy from Kansas trying to do the right thing, and over time of being a superhero he matures and becomes more like his traditional self (to some extent).He's a down to earth dude, and a country mouse before Jimmy meets him. Parents are dead and he's spent time traveling and saving people on his journies. One thing I would do is, much like MoS Clark isn't trying to be a public hero. He jsut saves people because he likes helping, it is in no way his desire to be an icon or a symbol. If he could have, he would rather have not let anyone know about him, but due to a picture taken by Jimmy, he is forced out into the public eye. The whole point of Clark being at the DP, IMO, is becuase he loves being a reporter and loves his friends. YOu can be friends with someone and have a secret, but you can't be a totally different/fake person and the friendship be real.

A change that I'd like to see is explain the clutzy CLark Kent thing. Instead of having it be an act, it's just Clark trying to pay attention to dangers happening far away, and not to what's in front of him. So he'll spill hot coffee on himself while trying to hear something. People think he's daydreaming and a clutz, but it's not really an act.

2) How would you write Krypton? Life on it? Flora and fauna? History? Relevance to Superman's adventures? Would you Superman more of a space-faring adventurer, like Silver Age Superman or the Fantastic Four?

Kryptonians in general were a pretty arrogant race. They were both respected and hated by many. This history is going to lead to shockwaves throughout the cosmos when the find out that their is still a Kryptonian in the universe.

3) How would you write Metropolis? Smallville? Other locations where Superman goes to? Would you make him limited to Metropolis, or go global and be to the whole planet what Batman is to Gotham?

Since I would be pretty close to the Morrision origin, he'd start out as a myth around the world (MoS guardian angel concept), then be mainly in Metropolis, and once he can fly he would be a more global hero.

4) His supporting cast? His friendships? His romantic relationships? His allies? What would you alter?

JImmy would be my biggest change. He would be way more integral to Clark's story and would eventually build up to the moment where jimmy finds out (and do it right where JOhns failed). He is the city mouse to Clark's Country Mouse, the guy who shows Clark the ropes of getting by in Metropolis and his in to a job at the Daily Star. At the point where they first meet, Clark isn't a public hero, but a myth. Jimmy is one of the few people who believe in this myth and snaps the picture of CLark, cementing him as a real thing. Thereby making CLark have to be a public hero.

Lois would be the rival reporter from the DP, to then rival coworker, to friend, to best friend/in on CLark's secret (yes, she'll find out via being a smart reporter) and then building up to the romance. I'd also have her have a history with Lex (they dated a bit, stayed friends). Their friendship eventually turns sour as their views on Superman differ and the grow appart as Lex's envy/hatred of Superman change him.

Cat Grant has a frenemy relationship with Lois. Lois is a more gruff "one of the guys" type chick, while Cat is the more feminine out of the two. Cat's relationship with Lois is why she dates Clark, to piss her off (by dating the reporter who is beating her). She falls for Clark's humble ways, but it doesn't last long since Clark keeps bailing on her to go save people. A common joke by her is that she makes fun of how Lois keeps losing men and how no mortal man can keep up with her.

I would definitely do the SM/WW relationship. Date for a while, try to keep it secret, and the play out the "kiss photo" story from Soule, in which a guy who didn't even want to be a public icon, is now featured on celebrity gossip shows. It would end after Clark dies at the hands of Doomsday, after which Diana moves on. I'd really try and highligh how they complete each other and bring out the best in each other.

Krypto gets a new origin in this series. In one episode, Star Lab or Lex Corp or the Government were testing trying to see if they could create a formula to give someone Superman's powers from an acquired blood sample. The tested out the formula on different animals , and it sorta worked. The animals broke free and started running amok. The animals will be a reference to the Superman pets of yesteryear. While having a few new ones thrown in. The powers of the animals go away, but Clark finds out that a female wolf had puppies and the puppy kept it's powers. So instead of letting them have it, he kept it. This happens post Jimmy finding out Clark's powers, so him and Clark have to deal with this Super Powered puppy. Each season, he will grow, in the third him being a fully adult wolf dog. IMO, I believe that these early tests will set the stage for things like Bizarro and Superboy. Since it shows trial and error taking place.

5) His rogues' gallery? What would you change? What would you add? What would you remove?

Can't say I'd change much. Zod would be inspired heavily by MoS Zod (since that's how the character should be done from now on). Outside of that, it's just how I'd handle certain story arcs. Their are certain origins that I changed, but can't talk about for certain reasons. Lex has his own character journey in which he goes from Billionaire, to losing his company and helping Cadmus, to taking over Cadmus and taking back his company, to becoming a total Package Lex. His journey would mirror CLark's. WHile Clark doesn't want to be an icon or famous, ends up being it. WHile Lex who wants to be an icon and loved, ends up being the villain.

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#14 Edited by Quinlan58 (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

@2099man: That's an excellent pitch for a Mythical Superman take.

One thing I forgot to add is that I'd make Krhptonite deadly to anything. It'd break the Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy by emitting absurd amounts of energy (ergo, radiation) without ever changjng its mass and it'd kill any living being in close proximity, with only Kryptonians surviving for a short while. I'd take the Little Chunks of Death idea as far as I could.

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#15 Edited by 2099man (220 posts) - - Show Bio

@quinlan58 said:

@2099man: That's an excellent pitch for a Mythical Superman take.

One thing I forgot to add is that I'd make Krhptonite deadly to anything. It'd break the Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy by emitting absurd amounts of energy (ergo, radiation) without ever changjng its mass and it'd kill any living being in close proximity, with only Kryptonians surviving for a short while. I'd take the Little Chunks of Death idea as far as I could.

Thanks for the kind words. If you've got any other comments you'd like to make, be they criticisms or otherwise, I'd love to hear them. :) I've made some minor edits as well if you'd care to look. Just to tidy things up.

Also, just as an add on. Here are the many faces of my take on Superman's original greatest foe, as I would have him appear.

Delores Winters: 1939 - 1966
Delores Winters: 1939 - 1966

The Original Body
The Original Body

Giant Ant: 1966 - 1981
Giant Ant: 1966 - 1981

White Ape: 1981 - 2010
White Ape: 1981 - 2010

Cyber Form: 2010 - Present Time
Cyber Form: 2010 - Present Time

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#16 Edited by RDClip (2792 posts) - - Show Bio
  1. He would be hopeful and kind. He would kind of seem like an anomaly in a cynical and distrustful world. Clark would still be a nice guy, but Superman would be like his idealized version of himself that he thinks the world needs. While Clark feels doubts about himself, he never allows Superman to show flaws. Clark wouldn't be a meek wiener in his civilian life; he would be a reporter that is seeking the truth with integrity and even has to change his view when the story leads somewhere he wasn't expecting. All the same powers, fortress of solitude, Kryptonian archives, etc.
  2. I'd make Krypton a very advanced, but flawed society. It would not be a utopia and its people would have grown disinterested and decadent. It is an old civilization that is living off the past glory and accomplishments of their people. We would still feel bad when it is destroyed, but we can see why the people ignored all the warning signs. (there is also some kind of natural energy field around the planet/local area of space that has prevented them from space exploration)
  3. Metropolis would truly be the city of tomorrow with bright colours and glass skyscrapers (think Superman the animated series) Smallville would be a throwback to a earlier time (think the first Donner film) Superman would be able, at a moment's notice, go to crisis' all over the world, but he would still be based in Metropolis.
  4. Lana, Jimmy, and the Daily Planet crew. Ma Kent (Pa died of a heart attack like in the movie to show Clark that he isn't all powerful). Slow burn romance with Lois. Clark's first real girlfriend would be Diana and, although they learned a lot being together and enjoyed it, they decided that it wouldn't work out. Superman would be an inspiration to all the other heroes and they would look up to him.
  5. Lex Luthor would be a younger, more charismatic business leader. Not Jesse Eisenberg. More like a younger, more handsome and bald Richard Branson. He's the type of billionaire adventurer that would scale mount Everest and be on the cover of Men's magazine with supermodels draped over him. It's all obviously an act to cover his amoral sinister goals.

Yeah, so I really wouldn't try to reinvent the wheel since I think the Superman story/mythos is great already.

Update: Just came up with another idea. Clark's rocket and the Fortress of Solitude are the same sentient computer. It has shape shifting/matter transmutation tech and contains the entire archive of Krypton's history. It will also act kind of like Superman's version of Alfred i.e. a confidant and connection to his parents.

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#17 Posted by Quinlan58 (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

@saintwildcard: Part of the reason I'd bring back the manufactured Clark Kent facade (besides greatly enjoying how Maggin wrote it in his novels) is that I'd give Superman a "flaw" that he is incapable of letting anyone get too close to him, so he'd almost never show his true self to anyone (of course I'd develop him out of this as the series goes on, making the Clark Kent identity more and more genuine). I'd justified this with him having been terrified of the government back when he was a kid who just found found out he is an alien, so he'd believe he must make people not notice him, and by the time he realises he doesn't need to do that, it'd already come too naturally to him.

Of course my platonic Superman story would end up with him publicly revealing himself as Clark Kent and entering politics, but no way would DC ever allow that.

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#18 Posted by SaintWildcard (21844 posts) - - Show Bio

@saintwildcard: Part of the reason I'd bring back the manufactured Clark Kent facade (besides greatly enjoying how Maggin wrote it in his novels) is that I'd give Superman a "flaw" that he is incapable of letting anyone get too close to him, so he'd almost never show his true self to anyone (of course I'd develop him out of this as the series goes on, making the Clark Kent identity more and more genuine). I'd justified this with him having been terrified of the government back when he was a kid who just found found out he is an alien, so he'd believe he must make people not notice him, and by the time he realises he doesn't need to do that, it'd already come too naturally to him.

Of course my platonic Superman story would end up with him publicly revealing himself as Clark Kent and entering politics, but no way would DC ever allow that.

Much like my view on American Alien, while not my preferred way of doing it, I can respect the reasoning behind it. Superman is a balancing act of different aspects of him, so everyone has their own take. Even though I loved MoS and Grant's run, I still have issues with them that bar them from being perfect.

Alien vs Man

Icon vs Just a Guy doing the right thing

Superman vs Clark Kent

everyone has their own measurements for how they'd write him which is why he has so many origins.

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#19 Posted by buttersdaman000 (22862 posts) - - Show Bio

I think i'm done with my outline for the most part. I might edit it a bit and add some more stuff, but I think it's cool as is.

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#20 Posted by arthurkerr (2186 posts) - - Show Bio

How I would write Superman.

I think I like him down to earth but yet powerful and smart at the same time.

He believes in himself and it shows.

No matter if he is Clark or Superman he just has that air about him.

As a writer he gets the story as a hero he saves the day.

He can turn bad guys good.

He has a future and even when Lois dies of old age.

He finds faith in the world around him.

He dates and one days marries Wonder Women.

The adventure would continue.

I would give him a zest for life and all things he came in contact with would wish to have what he has.

How to write that is simple.

You just do.

Then when all is said and done and people remember what makes a great character a super one.

Then you get back to telling stories that just make you say wow again.

Not stories that make you yawn and wonder why you ever got the book because it took the same path every single other story has taken in the past.

Just to do what people see a million times before.

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#21 Edited by OrangeBat (961 posts) - - Show Bio

A lot of great ideas here! Guess it's time for me to throw my hat into the ring:

1) Personality.

Superman is the true identity, in that it is an amalgamation of both Kal-El and Clark Kent. Superman is a Kryptonian-Earthling, he's an immigrant of sorts, even a refugee. He starts wearing glasses at a very early age (like 9 or 10) after his developing powers start to screw with his senses. Initially, the Kents think that something's wrong with him and take him to a doctor, who is mystified, but prescribes Clark glasses anyway. Clark begins to play with and learns to control his powers on his own, but initially keeps it a secret from Jonathan and Martha having the usual child fear of being thrown out if he's seen as a weirdo (Jonathan and Martha know that he's an alien, but they don't know that he has special powers). He does grow to trust them fully eventually, but at first he's fearful because he's not like the other kids. He stands out, he's too good at things. He feels the pressure of too much competence. The Kents, especially Jonathan, even start trying to pressure him at some point to excel at everything, especially Jonathan who's almost vicariously living through Clark, but Clark hates it because it makes others even more jealous of him. This is one of the initial conflicts between Clark and the Kents. Martha acts as the mediator between Clark and Jonathan and is a bit more compassionate towards Clark's plight. Of course, Clark still loves the Kents and they love him, but a bit of family drama never hurt. Also, as a kid, Clark has many adventures saving people, defeating bad guys, and outsmarting evil plots, but no Legion of Superheroes. Not yet.

His best friend is Lana Lang, who lives next door to him, and who has a crush on him that Clark is initially largely unaware of. She does eventually learn his secret, and they date for a bit as teenagers. They continue being good friends into adulthood. He's also largely a nerd and while he's physically adept (and secretly trains to see how far he can push himself as his powers develop) and very smart, quickly able to figure out stuff on his own without help, he keeps to himself. He's basically the weird guy at the back of the class that gets straight A's, alternating with B's and C's to avoid giving himself away, who prefers being a loner. This will set the stage for his future persona as Clark Kent. He also learns fine muscle control to subtly change aspects of his face and body, designs special glasses that filter light to change his eye color to green, speaks higher and faster as Clark, and later on I'm even considering on giving him a slight stutter to further disguise himself. He also misses Krypton. A lot. It's a home, a people he's never known, and now they're gone forever. The first time he sees Jor and Lara's message to him, sees holograms of Krypton and it's life, he's emotional. And then he cries. Why? Because he lost his goddamn home planet, you bastards, that's why. I always found it odd that Superman never reacts more strongly to the destruction of Krypton. You'd think it would tear him up inside.

As Superman, he's very confident but not boastful (instead he's the type of guy you meet, and you know his level just from the way he walks, talks and holds himself - he doesn't need to boast, he knows he's awesome and by his actions, so does everyone else). He's also very compassionate, and while he's quite capable of kicking ass and saving the day, he also doesn't do the Batman route of scaring the crap out of people, although he will intimidate and make savage comeback comments if you piss him off. Instead he prefers to reason out things, and if a villain/criminal still continues, then he will take them down. I sort of envision Superman fight scenes going like this - Superman casually dodging, blocking or just tanking blows like it's nothing at first as well as saving people and stopping property destruction while trying to reason with the bad guy. Bad guy doesn't listen, continues to do bad guy things. Superman sighs and proceeds to take them down in style. He's also fairly charming and quick-witted. I have this kind of image of Superman casually sitting in a tree in some big city park and eating an apple in his down time, and occasionally giving a wink and a smile to passing people. He has suffered a lot, but he remains the eternal optimist, and a fighter for a better future. Additionally, Superman never stops trying to help. He's almost fanatically dedicated to the ideal of helping everyone and unlike most other versions of Superman, who tries to keep within the law, this version will happily spit on conventional laws to do the right thing. This makes him hated by almost all authority figures on the planet and beyond, whom he doesn't care for and beloved by almost all common people, who are what truly matter to him.

2) True Identity.

Like I said, Superman is the real him. The only time he ever truly feels free. The only time he doesn't feel like he has to hide one part or the other of himself. As Clark, he must pretend to always be ordinary. As Kal-El, he must always pretend to know and be everything alien. As Superman, he can do whatever the hell he likes and be whatever he wants to be.

3) Civilian Life.

Lives in a rented apartment by himself at first, later buys a proper house. Eventually works at The Daily Planet as a reporter, later on after becoming disillusioned with the media and news reporting in general, he leaves and becomes a school teacher (or maybe a university professor) who tries to educate the next generation to make a difference, and is considered very unorthodox with unusual methods by the other staff. Even later on, in the future, he becomes a doctor or a scientist, developing radical new technologies and making major breakthroughs to directly improve lives. This takes place in the far future of Superman's career, at this point he has revealed his true identity and openly lives as Clark Kent the alien who is also a superhero, at this point Earth is in contact with alien civilizations and has developed further beyond our current status, and he's basically living in a Mass Effect sci-fi universe now. No need to conceal himself, he's now fairly ordinary as far as unusual occurrences go. Additionally, early on he takes various manual labor jobs such as fisherman, carpenter, metalworker, etc. This gives him ample opportunity to sneak way when the time demands it to help out and save the day. During this period, Clark has a bit of a "cool kid" vibe about him and dresses accordingly but tones it down over time.

Going back a bit in time, he mostly wears hoodies and tries not to dress too flashy or impressive to avoid drawing attention to himself and give the impression of a somewhat who-cares individual when it comes to personal grooming. He has several friends, such as Lana, obviously, Cat Grant who becomes his flirty, overly sexual coworker with a good heart, and Lois Lane who is the hot but bitchy coworker with whom he has a friendly rivalry, and Jim Olsen, who is a seasoned photographer, and older than he's usually depicted, and takes to Clark because "You remind me a bit of myself, Clark. Back in the day, I mean." and he sees him as a bit of an unorthodox fellow, and a bunch of others who I'll describe in more detail a bit further on down as we go through these. And finally, I would change it up a bit in that Martha is the one that dies (of cancer). Jonathan initially blames Clark ("All that power, all those brains, and you couldn't even be bothered to save her, huh kid?"), but they reconcile eventually. Clark mostly lives on his own, but keeps in touch with his old man from time to time. Not because of helpful advice (in fact, Clark is much wiser than Jonathan in many respects, but I'll get back to that when I expand on the supporting cast), but because he's family. I envision them meeting up, drinking a few beers, Clark helps Jonathan with his papers and some manual labor and then flies off. Jonathan will also be part of Superman's adventures as an unwitting civilian, along with others.

4) Powers.

Sunlight activates his powers, basically. The way I would write it, kryptonian physiology actually mutates in a way, under different types of solar radiation thus giving them different powers. Under a red sun, kryptonians are ordinary, maybe somewhat physically superior to humans because of Krypton's higher gravity (though in Superman, this advantage would be largely negated because he grew up exposed to Earth's gravity). Yellow-white, which is the color of our sun, gives him the standard kryptonian powers, super physical attributes, super senses, EM spectrum vision, infrared vision, X-ray vision (which is not actually X-rays, but just called so by Clark because it's the closest approximation he has as a child. He gives them a different name as he grows and further studies his powers and physiology), heat vision, super/freeze breath, flight, accelerated healing and so on. Under yellow and orange suns, he would lose a few powers. Under white and blue suns, he would gain extra ones such as telepathy, telekinesis, electrical manipulation, body-part stretching, partial shape-shifting and so on. His body mutating as a result of solar radiation would be made apparent by subtle visual cues.

This is just a personal idea that I liked, but I would make it so that Kal-El was born with a debilitating physiological disorder that actively cripples him under anything that makes him normal. We're talking extreme pain, coughing up blood, blurred vision, ringing in his ears and even death if it is allowed to persist long enough. As an infant, the disorder was still in its early stages, and did not really affect him much. As an adult, being exposed to red sunlight only, with absence of other types of solar radiation, will cripple him. He works on various ways to resolve or negate this weakness over time. Other, evil kryptonians such as Jax-Ur even mock him for it, regarding him as an inferior specimen of the kryptonian race only kept alive by a twist of fate. Also, Kal-El was sent off into space at the very last moments of Krypton's destruction - Jor did not have time to find a proper home for him and sent him into space hoping for the best. By luck, Kal-El lands on Earth, safe and sound. I just like it, the whole "will of fate" aspect of it. It truly lends it a mythological quality, like Kal-El was destined to come to Earth, be raised as Clark Kent, and become Superman, rather than the somewhat sterile and unsexy plot of him being sent to Earth by his parents programming it into his ship.

Kryptonite will be rare and will come in various forms. Like before, it is irradiated pieces of Krypton that crashed on Earth. Green kryptonite causes immense, crippling agony to kryptonians, but does not take away their powers. It will kill them, given enough time and exposure. Blue kryptonite takes away a kryptonian's powers while within its proximity, but nothing else. It does so by preventing kryptonian physiology's mutation by exposure to solar radiation. Red kryptonite affects the mind, and causes a loss of inhibitions and general sense, almost like an overriding addiction. It's not that easy to overcome the effects, because red kryptonite radiation fundamentally mutates kryptonian brain biology. The same is true of yellow kryptonite, except it plays havoc with kryptonian senses causing various visual, auditory and sensory hallucinations. Kryptonite works even on depowered kryptonians, and so is pretty damn deadly. With green kryptonite, Superman is initially very strongly crippled by it, but eventually learns to ignore the pain and will his way through it. This will be expanded upon further down. Finally, I would have Superman start out weaker, without flight or EM spectrum vision for example, and gradually become stronger as his body grows further. He would still be pretty competent, but he can't just charge head on into danger.

OK, that was a lot to write. Gimme some time to breathe and I'll continue.

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#22 Edited by OrangeBat (961 posts) - - Show Bio

5) Intellect.

Superman is highly intelligent. And I don't mean in a "his brain is hundreds of times faster and more efficient at processing and storing information", which is something that I would have happen to different degrees only under the effects of any sunlight that is not red. I mean that even when normal, he is very smart, inquisitive, creative and good at improvising and thinking on his feet. In short, even among kryptonians, he's a genius. Science-wise, he's Reed Richards, and has interests in many and various disciplines, from physics, to music, to history, etc. The ship that brought him would contain boat-loads of kryptonian knowledge, and Superman would learn even more from his adventures throughout the cosmos and beyond. Basically, the guy is smart. Even as a kid, when he would purposely hold back to make himself seem more ordinary. I envision him as always observing, always thinking, in any situation. You don't know what he's planning, but rest assured he's got a plan, and a back-up plan. He's also good at designing and creating his own tech and other things such as serums, special suits and so on. When fighting or saving people, he's always considering different ways to take out his opponents and minimize or eliminate casualties and mass destruction entirely, instead of charging head on. For instance, when first meeting an opponent, he would do a quick study of them, scan them for weak points, observe their behavior. Not just fly towards them and then predictably get knocked back because "I'm invulnerable, suckers".

6) Skills.

Many skills. From a wide knowledge of scientific disciplines, designing and inventing new technology, tactics and strategy, disguise, investigation, survival, medicine, combat arts, etc. I would have Clark study martial arts as a teenager, including kryptonian ones, as well as develop his own unique fighting style that incorporates all he has learned and synthesizes it to work well with his powers. He's no longer just a blind brawler. He's a pretty skilled fighter, having been developing himself since childhood and with every battle that he's ever been in, and uses both his intellect and his skills to take down enemies, although at times he's content to just relax and let his durability take care of things for him, like casually walking through a room full of armed henchmen and watch in amusement as they try and stop him while he doesn't lift a finger. He's also a pretty gifted actor, and early in his childhood into his young adult years he would've been part of an acting troupe. He eventually leaves because he realizes he has more to offer, but has many friends in that area as a result of it. He's also good with animals of all kinds, and is a good negotiator, which ties in to his persona as someone who prefers to defuse a conflict before it escalates.

7) Technology.

Superman's suit, which he makes himself (and has his family crest on it, though I'd ditch the "hope" part. Just make it mean "El" or something) and constantly updates throughout his life. Not armor, more like a really fine, soft material reinforced with nanotech with things such as vital sign sensors, a cloaking device, and later on kryptonite-shielding (which his enemies find a way to bypass because escalation), solar radiation retainers, etc, built-in over time. He also has his old sword, his phantom zone projector (which he builds after scrambling together a rough schematic from Jor and Lara's holograms), a space-ship to allow him to travel with others in tow (and bring things on his long journeys into the cosmos), his robot assistants, his zoo, and of course a whole bunch of other cool stuff that I forget right now.

8) Pets.

Krypto, his loyal dog, who is not actually from Krypton, but a genetically-engineered and abused ordinary dog whom Clark finds and adopts. I'm OK with kryptonians looking like humans, I draw the line at other flora and fauna on Krypton being just like on Earth. His pet Sun-Eater. Alien kitty. A space squid. Anything you can think of. I like the idea that Superman is just an animal person that takes in any neglected-looking animal he can find, and treats them all exceptionally well, as a way of compensating for his occasional loneliness.

9) Base.

The Fortress of Solitude, which is now on the Moon, and was built there by Superman in the heart of particularly deep crater, which he constantly expands over a period of several years. He could have bases set up in Antarctica, in the jungles of the Amazon, in the deserts of Sahara, in the center of the Earth, and even on other planets and in other dimensions, but his main one is on the Moon. A home away from home.

OK, a bit tired now, gonna go to sleep and continue later.

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#23 Edited by OrangeBat (961 posts) - - Show Bio

And I'm back. Let's continue, shall we:

10) Life On Krypton.

Krypton's cities are mostly high-tech metropolises (think Coruscant from Star Wars) as well as a few smaller, less-developed villages, with the planet's surface being a mix of Krypton from Man of Steel, gigantic, colorful jungles (think Felucia, again from Star Wars) and magnificent caverns on the inside of the planet (think Inner Earth concept) which have been colonized over the course of many years and are the source of the special crystals which form the foundation of kryptonian technology. Kryptonian society is non-spacefaring, due to unfavorable conditions within their solar system such as violent cosmic storms that make it almost impossible to get a ship outside of it without having it be utterly destroyed in the process (the only exception to this is Brainiac, who manages to get in close enough to steal Kandor). By the time Krypton is destroyed, Jor-El and several others seem to have worked out a way to bypass this, but it's obviously too late for them by that point. They are also a fairly friendly race, eager to encounter other civilizations and share and trade with them, but are unable to. This overly trusting nature will bite them in the ass on several occasions, especially after Superman starts trying to rebuild his race. They are also sometimes blind to the consequences of their actions, such as excessive mining of Krypton's core causing the eventual destruction of the planet. Unlike other versions, where other kryptonians are too stubborn to trust Jor-El's judgement, I would make it so that Jor-El is unable to acquire sufficient evidence that Krypton is about to explode, and is brushed off as a fearmonger (additionally, Jor-El has a history of being extreme and a bit of a dreamer, which makes other scientists somewhat skeptical of him). In addition, kryptonians feel emotions much more intensely than ordinary humans. A girl merely liking a boy could easily inflate into full-blown love without really realizing it. Pacifism is encouraged, because the kryptonian propensity towards feeling intense emotions, including ones such as anger, resulted in some truly horrific outbreaks of violence in the past. This enforcement of state-sanctioned "coldness" is frequently protested against, and has led to numerous heated debates among kryptonian society as to how much restraining of natural impulses is healthy, and how much is merely unproductive repression that makes everyone miserable. AI is commonly used in households, and at one point actively starts fighting for its own "human" rights, leading to even more debates. Kryptonians have their own divine pantheon, based off the Egyptian one, with Rao as the supreme god.

11) Flora And Fauna.

Nothing like on Earth. No super-dogs, but domesticated giant centipedes instead. Many of Krypton's animals and plants are even sentient in nature, leading to some conflict as to the morality of hunting them. In general, all out crazy stuff. Additionally, to differentiate kryptonians from humans, they have different-looking organs (their heart is actually split in two and looks more like a pair of lungs, for example), additionally their pupils will actually dilate when exposed to moonlight to the extent of taking up the whole eye and turning it black, kryptonians do not have green eyes, instead having mutated to have either red or purple eyes, some of them are born with white hair and their blood (or whatever you would like to call the liquid flowing through their bodies) is dark green, as well as some other minor differences. Clark will use different methods, either through technology or training, to counter this and make him appear more normal.

12) History.

Kryptonian society as it stands at the time of the planet's destruction, has only been around for roughly two million years. Before that, it was a wild planet. It has gone through multiple wars over the course of its existence, several of them nearly leading to the extinction of the kryptonian race. Up until around 10000 years before the planet blows up, kryptonian society was split into multiple large city-nations, each revolving around a major kryptonian city, but this was abandoned after the Twelfth Global War Of Krypton in favor of a more unified, globalized society as the only way to keep peace, as non-ideal of a solution as it may be. Kandor was one of Krypton's capitals in the past, before being snatched by Brainiac. Argo City is Krypton's new capital at the time of its destruction, but managed to survive, and remains as an isolated city moving through space for many years until it is captured by Mongul and sold to an alien empire who wishes to study kryptonian physiology to create super-soldiers. This is from where you get Daxamites and other Kryptonian hybrids with other alien species, as a result of this empire's breeding experiments.

13) Relevance To Superman's Adventures.

Highly relevant. Whether it's saving Kandor from Brainiac, and recovering Argo City, its inhabitants and the hybrids from the alien empire, and then attempting to find a new home for them, or going back in time, or traveling with his new kryptonian buddies, Krypton will be pretty important to some of Superman's adventures, though not all of them, obviously.

14) Superman As A Space-Faring Adventurer.

Hell. Freaking. Yes. Exploring other planets, exploring other dimensions, whatever, but Superman won't be just confined to Earth.

Continued further below. Also edited to add some more stuff.

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#24 Posted by bee14ish (524 posts) - - Show Bio

And I'm back. Let's continue, shall we:

10) Life On Krypton.

Krypton's cities are mostly high-tech metropolises (think Coruscant from Star Wars) as well as a few smaller, less-developed villages, with the planet's surface being a mix of Krypton from Man of Steel, gigantic, colorful jungles (think Felucia, again from Star Wars) and magnificent caverns on the inside of the planet (think Inner Earth concept) which have been colonized over the course of many years and are the source of the special crystals which form the foundation of kryptonian technology. Kryptonian society is non-spacefaring, due to unfavorable conditions within their solar system such as violent cosmic storms that make it almost impossible to get a ship outside of it without having it be utterly destroyed in the process (the only exception to this is Brainiac, who manages to get in close enough to steal Kandor). By the time Krypton is destroyed, Jor-El and several others seem to have worked out a way to bypass this, but it's obviously too late for them by that point. They are also a fairly friendly race, eager to encounter other civilizations and share and trade with them, but are unable to. This overly trusting nature will bite them in the ass on several occasions, especially after Superman starts trying to rebuild his race. They are also sometimes blind to the consequences of their actions, such as excessive mining of Krypton's core causing the eventual destruction of the planet. Unlike other versions, where other kryptonians are too stubborn to trust Jor-El's judgement, I would make it so that Jor-El is unable to acquire sufficient evidence that Krypton is about to explode, and is brushed off as a fearmonger (additionally, Jor-El has a history of being extreme and a bit of a dreamer, which makes other scientists somewhat skeptical of him). In addition, kryptonians feel emotions much more intensely than ordinary humans. A girl merely liking a boy could easily inflate into full-blown love without really realizing it. Pacifism is encouraged, because the kryptonian propensity towards feeling intense emotions, including ones such as anger, resulted in some truly horrific outbreaks of violence in the past. This enforcement of state-sanctioned "coldness" is frequently protested against, and has led to numerous heated debates among kryptonian society as to how much restraining of natural impulses is healthy, and how much is merely unproductive repression that makes everyone miserable. AI is commonly used in households, and at one point actively starts fighting for its own "human" rights, leading to even more debates. Kryptonians have their own divine pantheon, based off the Egyptian one, with Rao as the supreme god.

11) Flora And Fauna.

Nothing like on Earth. No super-dogs, but domesticated giant centipedes instead. Many of Krypton's animals and plants are even sentient in nature, leading to some conflict as to the morality of hunting them. In general, all out crazy stuff.

12) History.

Kryptonian society as it stands at the time of the planet's destruction, has only been around for roughly two million years. Before that, it was a wild planet. It has gone through multiple wars over the course of its existence, several of them nearly leading to the extinction of the kryptonian race. Up until around 10000 years before the planet blows up, kryptonian society was split into multiple large city-nations, each revolving around a major kryptonian city, but this was abandoned after the Twelfth Global War Of Krypton in favor of a more unified, globalized society as the only way to keep peace, as non-ideal of a solution as it may be. Kandor was one of Krypton's capitals in the past, before being snatched by Brainiac. Argo City is Krypton's new capital at the time of its destruction, but managed to survive, and remains as an isolated city moving through space for many years until it is captured by Mongul and sold to an alien empire who wishes to study kryptonian physiology to create super-soldiers. This is from where you get Daxamites and other Kryptonian hybrids with other alien species, as a result of this empire's breeding experiments.

13) Relevance To Superman's Adventures.

Highly relevant. Whether it's saving Kandor from Brainiac, and recovering Argo City, its inhabitants and the hybrids from the alien empire, and then attempting to find a new home for them, or going back in time, or traveling with his new kryptonian buddies, Krypton will be pretty important to some of Superman's adventures, though not all of them, obviously.

14) Superman As A Space-Faring Adventurer.

Hell. Freaking. Yes. Exploring other planets, exploring other dimensions, whatever, but Superman won't be just confined to Earth.

Continued further below.

Are you going to continue? I would love to read more of this.

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#25 Posted by OrangeBat (961 posts) - - Show Bio

@bee14ish: Ask and ye shall receive (really though, I was just a bit lazy and forgot about this):

15) Metropolis.

I would initially start off with Metropolis as a very ordinary, standard big American city like New York or Los Angeles. I feel it detracts a bit from the charm of it to have it be this futuristic town on the forefront of innovation. Superman should be the most unique thing about it, at first. Of course, as outlined above, it becomes progressively more sci-fi along with the rest of the world as Superman goes through life. Every day life in Metropolis is hectic and tense, with people not really caring to relax or to wonder at the marvels of the world before them. Superman brings about a fundamental paradigm change, with people excitedly gossiping about him at first. The police don't really trust him at first and neither does the army. Lex Luthor would be at the forefront of smearing Superman's name, a fusion of J. Jonah Jameson with General Sam "Thunderbolt" Ross (I'd get rid of Sam Lane. He's just a less interesting, discount Ross anyway) with traditional mad scientist underpinnings and of course, being a billionaire CEO. Not truly evil (expanded upon later), but mostly in an antagonistic role. That being said, Metropolis is not the center of Superman's Earth-based adventures. He'd be more of a global hero, with Metropolis just being where he lives as Clark Kent and has some of his friends, family and coworkers.

16) Smallville.

Just your average small town where almost everyone knows one another. I'd have it so that towards the end of his teenage years, almost everyone in Smallville knows who Clark really is and what he can do, but they don't sell him out. He's helped them out so much, he is one of their own, like a brother. There would several storylines where government agents come snooping around, but no one says anything to them because they respect Clark that much. Superman eventually comes to retire here in his older age as he craves a more peaceful life by that point. Also, one thing I forgot to mention in the powers section, I would write Superman as getting weaker as he grows older. Sure, he would be long lived (approximately eight centuries under our sun, varies under other suns) but his body would start to break down eventually and become less efficient at processing solar radiation. He would find other ways to compensate for it when he gets called back into action one last time to save the world (I have a rough idea of a "The Dark Knight Returns"-style story for Superman, but that's not really relevant for discussion here). Basically, Superman starts out at basic power levels, reaches his peak of processing solar radiation and biological mutation efficiency around three to four centuries into his life, and then his body slowly weakens from there. Just like any other organism. I never liked Superman being immortal or just getting more powerful with age, it takes away some of the potential in an "Old Man Clark" story.

17) Other Locations.

All around the world. Like I mentioned earlier, Superman would be a global hero in my take, and you'd see him all over the place - one issue he'd be fighting kaijus or something down in Australia, the next he's investigating a mythical monster from another dimension up in the desolate woods of Siberia and so on. He'd also have friends and allies all over the place, from Kansas to Hong Kong.

18) Limited To Metropolis Or Global?

As mentioned above, global. Superman's powerset and general personality is just too big for Metropolis at this point.

Next up, his supporting cast. This might take some time to write up.

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#26 Posted by TheNomadicOne (25 posts) - - Show Bio

@orangebat I want to make a post myself, however do you want to finish yours first?

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#27 Posted by GreatKirbysGhost (321 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd likely write him after the fashion of Superman's original, highly political stories by Shuster and Siegel, at which point my scripts would get dumped in the garbage and DC Comics' editors would "lose" my phone number.

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#28 Posted by GreatKirbysGhost (321 posts) - - Show Bio

To be a little clearer about what I meant, there would be no supervillains and Superman would assume his original role at his creation and during his earliest stories: an anarchic fantasy of one good soul correcting the world's injustices while laughing at the rigged laws and bought-and-sold power structures that failed to do the same. Those are still probably the best Superman stories both in tone and in sheer execution, and their wild success is the main reason superhero comics or this forum exist, after all.

DC couldn't put up with that sort of Superman even back in the populist 1930s and eventually made the guys who invented Superman tone it down, then shoved them out the door entirely into lives of poverty. I doubt they could stomach it now... a lot of Superman readers would have conniptions if they read the first year or so of Superman strips and books and saw what he was really up to back then.

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#29 Posted by bee14ish (524 posts) - - Show Bio

@bee14ish: Ask and ye shall receive (really though, I was just a bit lazy and forgot about this):

15) Metropolis.

I would initially start off with Metropolis as a very ordinary, standard big American city like New York or Los Angeles. I feel it detracts a bit from the charm of it to have it be this futuristic town on the forefront of innovation. Superman should be the most unique thing about it, at first. Of course, as outlined above, it becomes progressively more sci-fi along with the rest of the world as Superman goes through life. Every day life in Metropolis is hectic and tense, with people not really caring to relax or to wonder at the marvels of the world before them. Superman brings about a fundamental paradigm change, with people excitedly gossiping about him at first. The police don't really trust him at first and neither does the army. Lex Luthor would be at the forefront of smearing Superman's name, a fusion of J. Jonah Jameson with General Sam "Thunderbolt" Ross (I'd get rid of Sam Lane. He's just a less interesting, discount Ross anyway) with traditional mad scientist underpinnings and of course, being a billionaire CEO. Not truly evil (expanded upon later), but mostly in an antagonistic role. That being said, Metropolis is not the center of Superman's Earth-based adventures. He'd be more of a global hero, with Metropolis just being where he lives as Clark Kent and has some of his friends, family and coworkers.

16) Smallville.

Just your average small town where almost everyone knows one another. I'd have it so that towards the end of his teenage years, almost everyone in Smallville knows who Clark really is and what he can do, but they don't sell him out. He's helped them out so much, he is one of their own, like a brother. There would several storylines where government agents come snooping around, but no one says anything to them because they respect Clark that much. Superman eventually comes to retire here in his older age as he craves a more peaceful life by that point. Also, one thing I forgot to mention in the powers section, I would write Superman as getting weaker as he grows older. Sure, he would be long lived (approximately eight centuries under our sun, varies under other suns) but his body would start to break down eventually and become less efficient at processing solar radiation. He would find other ways to compensate for it when he gets called back into action one last time to save the world (I have a rough idea of a "The Dark Knight Returns"-style story for Superman, but that's not really relevant for discussion here). Basically, Superman starts out at basic power levels, reaches his peak of processing solar radiation and biological mutation efficiency around three to four centuries into his life, and then his body slowly weakens from there. Just like any other organism. I never liked Superman being immortal or just getting more powerful with age, it takes away some of the potential in an "Old Man Clark" story.

17) Other Locations.

All around the world. Like I mentioned earlier, Superman would be a global hero in my take, and you'd see him all over the place - one issue he'd be fighting kaijus or something down in Australia, the next he's investigating a mythical monster from another dimension up in the desolate woods of Siberia and so on. He'd also have friends and allies all over the place, from Kansas to Hong Kong.

18) Limited To Metropolis Or Global?

As mentioned above, global. Superman's powerset and general personality is just too big for Metropolis at this point.

Next up, his supporting cast. This might take some time to write up.

Take your time man. Yours might just be my favorite so far.

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#30 Edited by nova1972x (3 posts) - - Show Bio

Interesting thread! I would like to offer some ideas of my own, if I may.

Krypton:

My favorite depictions of Krypton are that of the 1977 movie and the post crisis 1986 Man of Steel versions. I like the idea of Krypton being an alien planet that was sterile and largely devoid of animal and plant life. I would depict Krypton as a dying planet, as the Kryptonians had tapped the natural resources of the planet and also their red sun, Rao. Rao is actually red due to both its age and the fact its power has been depleted further by the Kryptonian civilization, thus explaining why its power output is so low compared to a yellow sun. In the far distant past, Krypton was not unlike Earth, but towards the end, much of its flora and fauna had been destroyed by radiation emitted by Krypton's core. This created a harsh environment on Krypton, which forced the Kryptonians to genetically engineer and modify their genetic code, in order to adapt to their harsh environment.

Kryptonians:

One of the things that has always bothered me about Superman, is that he is essentially an alien humanoid that receives powers from sunlight, and is able to fight gods to a standstill. Divine beings like Darkeid, Zeus, or even Wonder Woman (a demigod), should be able to out ant out kill Superman with ease. Also, since it seems magic is commonplace int he DC, any magical or supernatural being should also be able to kill superman. By all rights, superman should be a mid level hero, but for his long history, and favored status in DC. I would not try to re-adjust superman to be more mid level, but rather, try to present explanations why Superman can hang with such beings, and why he is so powerful.

I would first start with changing the background of the Kryptonians, somewhat. I would introduce something very similar to the Kardashev Scale (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale), as an explanation. All gods and demigods in the DCU would actually be classified under this scale.

Members of Type 1 (ranging from 1.0, the low end to 1.9, the high end) civilizations in this context would be highly evolved humanoid beings that posses powers and technology that to humans, appear divine, but compared to more highly evolved beings, like Type 2 or higher, are not. A Type 1 civilization would be one that has complete mastery of their planet, can manipulate nature, possess near immortality (though they can be killed), great intellect, and possess highly advanced technology and powers. An example of a Type 1 civilization is that of Earth's original civilization, which are what humans know as gods, which includes the Olympian gods and Titans. Regardless of pantheon, they are all actually part of the same civilization, however, they can be considered a failing civilization as they no longer are able to reproduce, except for "Sky Father" level gods, like Zeus, Darkseid, or High Father. Type 1 level civilizations are able to travel space, but are either limited to their own solar system, or have the capability of going beyond it, but have no interest in doing so. In some cases, some Type 1 beings who are of supernatural origin, such as demons, spirits, and some gods, are tied to their native planet and cannot travel beyond it. Type 1 beings on the higher end include most gods, demons, devils, angels and can manipulate life, and cause it to evolve faster (IE manipulate DNA of primates-like creatures to evolve into humanoids far faster than if it had occurred naturally) but do not have the ability to actually create it from nothing (similar to Lorian from Babylon 5). Most superheroes and villains would be either on the cusp of Type 1 level of power and intellect.

Modern day humans, by comparison, would barely be a Type 0.25 civilization based on this scale. Type 2 civilizations would be capable of mastery of an entire solar system, interstellar flight

Type 2 civilizations (similarly ranging from 2.0 to 2.9, low and high ends of the spectrum), are capable of all that type 1 can do, but at levels that are orders of magnitude greater, on the higher end of the spectrum. On the low end of the spectrum, a Type 2 being is comparable to a Skyfather level god, on the high end, much greater. Oans might be considered on the higher end of Type 2. Unlike some Type 1 beings, Type 2 beings are not tied to their native planet, and have complete mastery of their solar system. They can travel across the galaxy, possess powers greater than Type 1 beings, can manipulate the laws of physics and time. Superman Prime 1 million, for example, could be considered Type 2. Type 2 is able to be killed, but it is very difficult to do, and generally speaking, only another Type 2 can do it, with few exceptions, like a very high level type 1 being.

Type 3 beings are the highest order. They are capable of all that Types 1& 2 beings are capable of, and more. They have complete mastery over the universe, can travel to other dimensions or realities, and some of the highest levels of Type 3 beings are said to be capable of creating universes, manipulate time, etc. These beings are pure energy, and rarely encountered or bother themselves with the affairs of Type 2 or lower. A being at the highest level of Type 3 would be what humans know as the biblical GOD, lower levels being on part with avatars or saints.

Kryptonian civilization would be one of the oldest civilizations in the known galaxy, and it would be revealed that at one point, Kryptonians were space faring, and had a number of colonies throughout its solar system, and in other close by star systems in its distant past tens of thousands of years before Krypton was destroyed, which formed an empire. Most Kryptonians were at that time militaristic and believed they were a superior race. During this period of expansion, it was discovered that Kryptonians exhibited greater power levels under yellow suns. Widespread hubris caused by their pride in their technology and new found powers, led Kryptonians to take it upon themselves to conquer other planets and spread their civilization. This empire took place before Kryptonians started modifying their genetic code further, so at that time, Kryptonians were not as powerful under the yellow sun as they became, but powerful enough to exhibit powers that caused an even older, Type 3 civilization to take note of Kryptonian expansion.

When the Kryptonians started using even more brutal methods of conquest, this Type 3 civilization intervened and fought a war that wiped out most of the Kryptonian colonies. Survivors who surrendered were relocated back to Krypton, where this unknown Type 3 civilization forced the Kryptonians to remain only on Krypton or its moons to inhibit their powers under the red sun, until that civilization was satisfied Kryptonians had changed their ways and desires for conquest. This confinement was imposed by setting up satellites around Krypton and its colony moons to destroy any Kryptonian ship attempting to leave Krypton or its moons, with travel only permitted between the planet and moons.

The Type 3 civilization was largely successful in relocating Kryptonian colonists back to Krypton, except for one case. During the sterilization of one Kryptonian colony under a yellow sun, Nova Argos (named in honor of Argo City), a small group of Kryptonians escaped in a colony ship prior to the destruction of the colony, unbeknownst to the type 3 civilization. This group of Kryptonians traveled a great distance to another planet, Daxam, under a red sun. The planet was livable but harsh, and had flora and fauna, and a small, primitive humanoid civilization. Seeing this as a second chance and assuming all other colonies and Krypton itself was destroyed, this group of Kryptonians made a home of their new found planet and intermarried with the native culture (creating a new, hybrid race, the Daxamites), adopted a xenophobic attitude, and imposed policies preventing Daxamites from leaving Daxam. Over time, the Daxamites lost records of their Kryptonian heritage, but Kryptonian DNA survived through the new hybrid Daxamite race. Daxamites, as a result, still retained similar powers as Kryptonians, and over time due to the harsh Daxam environment, evolved naturally to nearly the same level Kryptonians had evolved to through genetic engineering thousands of years later.

Kryptonian genetics:

In the case of Kryptonians, as a civilization, and people, they would be a Type 1.9999 people, on the verge of evolving to Type 2. Kryptonian technology was one of the most advanced technologies in the known galaxy, on par with Oans. Also, as with classic Superman mythos, Kryptonian physiology had evolved naturally under a red sun that allowed their cells to supercharge under a yellow sun. This evolution was further enhanced by Kryptonian genetic engineering and incorporation of birthing matrices, to survive the increasingly harsher Kryptonian environment. This directly resulted in Kryptonians speeding up their evolution process, in order to survive Krypton's harsh environment, instead of leaving Krypton becase Kryptonians were prohibited from leaving the Rao system. The byproduct of this artificially induced evolution resulted in all Kryptonians, being able to receive power from yellow suns at even greater levels. One important difference is that after they started manipulating their DNA, Kryptonians did have limited powers under red suns, making them naturally more powerful than humans (IE they have abilities that equate to about 5 times that of a human of similar build) granting the average Kryptonian a minor superhero level of power, under the red sun. In other words, Kryptonians were powerful, but not nearly at their full potential, while under a red sun. This is because like in the Man of Steel movie, however, because Krypton's sun, Rao, was a dying red giant, its radiation did not "supercharge" a Kryptonian cells, like a yellow sun does. However, counter-intuitively blue and white stars, though younger than yellow stars, do not provide an even greater level of power to Kryptonians, as those stars have not matured enough to create the necessary radiation to supercharge a Kryptonian's cells. At best, a Kryptonian can expect the same power level as if under a red sun, which is to say they lose their Superman level of power, but still remain more powerful than a human.

When exposed to a yellow sun, Kryptonians are at their full potential, and receive a power that is on par with Earth gods. However, Superman is no ordinary Kryptonian, but one that was genetically modified further by his father, Jor El. This explains why not only Superman, as most Kryptonians, are at a power level of an Earth god, but why Superman is the most powerful of all known Kryptonians (that is unless there are other Kryptonians that also exist, that were also modified, like Hel, Doomsday, or Kryptonian clones). This also explains why Superman is more powerful than most other superheroes, or at least on par with them when those beings should actually be more powerful than Superman (IE Wonder Woman, Shazam, Martian Manhunter, etc). The way Superman's genetics are modified is by the maturation chamber within the birthing matrix, within the rocket that brings him to Earth. Realizing that Kal El was going to need to be able to survive on his own, that Earth was similar to ancient Krypton and needed someone to help prevent Earth from making the same mistakes Krpton made, Jor El programmed the birthing matrix to further enhance Kal El's DNA. This gives Superman roughly 3 times the power level of a typical Kryptonian under a yellow sun, making Superman super not only among humans, but also other Kryptonians.

Superman's Powers:

Superman, and other Kryptonians, under yellow suns would exhibit all of the classic powers: super strength, flight, super speed, invulnerability, xray vision, heat vision,etc. His power levels would basically be about that of the modern era, so no planet juggling. That said, Superman would be the strongest, most invulnerable hero on Earth, bar none. More powerful than Wonder Woman, Martian Manhunter, Shazam, Black Adam, etc, though each of them would be able to hold their own. Superman could hold his own against Skyfather level gods, like Zeus, Dark Side, Orion, and High Father, with the ultimate outcome uncertain and dependent on the actual circumstances of the fight..

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#31 Edited by TheGamemasterShaun (370 posts) - - Show Bio

How would I write Superhuman if there was a reboot and I was given the choice of writing Superman? Well this will be a pretty long answer but whatever.

1.

Appearance

His appearance will be a lot more different. Superman would have short black hair and dark blue eyes. He would have a beard also. His superhero costume will consist of a white top with the "S" symbol in front of his shirt and jeans with black shoes. When not fighting bad guys, he would just wear normal clothes such as a hoodie, jackets, jerseys and jeans. His most common attire would be a black jacket with a white top underneath and black pants with red sneakers. He also wears a red cap.

Personality

Superman is a friendly and laid back man. He is also lazy and sometimes relaxes on his couch and watch TV.

When fighting crime, he is very flippant and quite cocky. He is mostly relaxed when fighting crime and rarely becomes serious. He enjoys laughing at his defeated opponents and mocking them but has on multiple occassions shown some respect and admiration towards the opponent as seen during his fight with Zod.

Superman hates killing his enemies and prefers to knock them out or cripple them but not kill them. Though Superman only kills his opponent if he is enraged, when he is under control or when the situations matters.

When angered, Superman becomes very aggressive and brutal as shown when he brutally beat up Captain Marvel and would have killed him had it not been for Batman to calm him down and when he repeatedly bashed The Flash on the head with a crowbar.

Superman has a powerful will and never gives up as seen during his battle with Zod when Zod, greatly empowered by the red sun, overwhelmed Superman and dominated him but Superman refused to surrender thus angering Zod and making Zod use his kryponite beam which strained Zod's body and caused his body to weaken.

Despite his laid back and lazy attitude, Superman is very intelligent and is immune to the seduction power of Power Girl.

Superman craves chocolate and burgers and becomes very happy when he eats one.

Powers and Abilities

As a Kryptonian, Superman has a wide range of abilities:

  • Flight-As a Kryptonian, Superman has the ability to fly

  • Superhuman Strength-Superman possess incredible strength. He is able to easily destroy houses, cars and buildings with only few punches.

  • Superhuman speed-Superman is a very fast man

  • Superhuman reflexes-Superman has very high reflexes as he is able to catch a bullet and fight The Flash and overpower him despite The Flash being much faster than Superman but only because Superman was enraged and Flash had to calm him down

  • Superhuman Durability-Superman has incredible durability

  • Superhuman Endurance-Superman has incredible endurance as he is able to survive powerful energy attacks and others

  • Heat Vision-Superman is able to heat up and fire red beams from his eyes. These beams are strong enough to destroy large buildings

  • Ice Breath-Superman is able to freeze things and people with his breath.

  • Lighting Manipulation-Superman is ableto use lighting based powers but this only works if there is rain and thunder.

Weaknesses

  • Green Kryptonite-Superman is greatly weakened when he is in the presence of Green Kypronite and if he continues to be in the presence of GK, he can be unconscious. If touched by kryponite, he immediately bleeds and some of his power is temporally lost

  • Red Kryptonite-Red Kryptonite enrages Superman and causes him to attack anything and anyone on site

  • Black Kryptonite-Black Kryptonite causes Superman to go insane

  • Blue Kryptonite-This is the most dangerous kryptonite as it makes Superman lose all his powers permanently and actually kills him. The only villain to use Blue Kryptonite against Superman is Doomsday

Pets

Superman owns a white dog named Carl who is able to talk and understand speech and commands. Carl also has superpowers like Superman due to being born in Krypton.

Base

Superman's base of operation is located in a small place in Los Angeles Carlifornia. It can only be accessed by Superman or his allies if they have Superman's permission.

Skill

  • Master driver
  • Professional Gamer
  • High swimming skill
  • Master Martial Artist

Civillian Life

Superman's name is Johnny Kent and is the adopted son of Michael Kent and Sarah Kent. He is also the cousin of Anna Kent who is known as Supergirl. Superman is currently unemployed and lives with Supergirl at a mansion in New Jersey. Common places that Superman loves to go are the mall, the park or the gym.

Technology

Superman has created ten things using a very rare material known as Uranium and other powerful material:

  • Supercar
  • Superbike
  • Super skateboard
  • A sword made of uranium
  • A golden knuckle duster
  • A hard ball
  • A unbreakable white cup
  • A large controller for gaming
  • A console cover made of aluminium
  • A fiery van

True Identity and Family

Superman's real name is Kal-El and he was born in Krypton. He was sent to earth by his biological parents.

Family

  • Zod-Zod is Superman's older brother
  • Kara/Supergirl-Is Superman's older cousin

3.

Allies and Enemies

Superman has a lot of allies and enemies

Allies:

  • Batman-Batman is Superman's best friend and former classmate

  • The Flash

  • Wonder Woman
  • Green Arrow
  • Green Arrow
  • Aqua Man
  • Green Lantern

Enemies:

  • Doomsday-Is superman's arch enemy
  • Zod
  • Lex Luthor
  • Cyborg
  • Darkseid

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#32 Edited by OrangeBat (961 posts) - - Show Bio

Alright, time to finish this sucker. Not enough space here for everyone, so I'll just get a few key people in here first:

19) Supporting Cast.

Jor-El - The eccentric and unorthodox member of Krypton's Science Guild who is considered positively insane by his colleagues due to his seemingly farfetched theories and experiments. He appears a bit weird and likes to occasionally speak in puzzles to mystify others when they annoy him. Despite this, he is very much a kind-hearted and altruistic individual who truly wants what is best for his people and his family and in his final moments, he curses himself for his inability to prove the impending catastrophe that will befall Krypton and considers it his greatest failure, despite his guilt being relatively short-lived, for obvious reasons. He is also a very gifted inventor and is responsible for restarting the development of Krypton's space program after Brainiac's invasion, however he is prone to outlandish thought experiments which have led to the Guild debating his expulsion on more than one occasion. His chief rival in the Guild was Jax-Ur, who hated him partially out of jealousy and partially because Jor-El kept on interfering with Jax-Ur's attempts to influence Krypton's government in a more unethical direction and, y'know, stuff like destroying a moon because he wanted to test a gravity-warping missile prototype on it as future protection against Brainiac. He is also a vocal opponent of the head of the military guild, General Dru-Zod, and the man's attempts to reformulate Krypton's government along more aggressive lines, including attempts to legalize slavery of certain sentient Kryptonian lifeforms and the creation of a cosmic Kryptonian empire.

Lara Lor-Van - The somewhat more quiet and thoughtful wife of Jor-El. A former member of Krypton's Art Guild who later went into politics, she spends half her time battling General Zod's ridiculous proposals for the alteration of the Kryptonian Constitution and the other half battling somewhat less ridiculous complaints against her husband by her political opponents and numerous attempts to smear her name. Her marriage to Jor-El was highly unpopular with her family, who viewed him as an utter kook and had little understanding of why a talented, beautiful girl would fall in love with a seemingly insane lunatic who nonetheless somehow managed to get into Krypton's prestigious Science Guild and even earned a spot on the Science Council. Potentially have both Jax-Ur and Dru-Zod as failed suitors at some point in her past.

Jonathan Kent - A down-to-earth Kansas farmer who wanted to become an astronaut but failed to achieve that life, instead settling for becoming a farmer just like his father. Despite a seemingly optimistic attitude, deep down he is bitter over his lot in life and believes that he is a failure which has caused some major tension with his wife Martha and which pushed his marriage to the point where he considers divorcing Martha, until they find and adopt Clark. This causes him to push Clark harder towards becoming an overachiever, because he wants Clark to live the life that he was denied, being almost blind to Clark's own desires at times. Despite his tough relationship with Clark, Jonathan loves his son and is quite proud of him and his strong morals and tries his best to raise him on the right path, despite being imperfect himself. As he admits at one point, "You're a better man than me, Clark. Always were, if I'm honest.", but Clark still looks up to him as a man who did the best with what he was given. After Martha's death from cancer, Jonathan attempts to build his own farming business along with Clark, but is forced to fight the ruthless business practices of the Luthors in the process. He also participates in several of Superman's more weird adventures, and is one of the few people with whom Clark can simply relax and shoot the s**t after a long day.

Martha Kent - Loving mother and loyal wife, she feels some tension in her marriage with Jonathan, mainly due to Jonathan's numerous failed attempts to improve his family's lot in life. Working as a teacher at Clark's high school, she is often covering up for Clark when SHTF, although in matters otherwise academic or athletic she keeps neutral ground. She often acts as peace keeper between Jonathan and Clark when they come into conflict, and unlike her husband, does not crave a life of greatness, preferring to teach Clark the virtues of humility and letting things go at times – a lesson which will serve Clark well especially when she passes away. She spends the latter half of Clark's childhood battling cancer, but will keep an optimistic attitude about life all through it.

Alexander Luthor – Wealthy industrialist, Metropolis' media darling, popular culture science figurehead (think Elon Musk) involved pretty heavily with military projects, particularly ones concerned with interstellar travel. He simultaneously loathes Superman out of a narcissistic sense of envy and out of fear of him being a threat and is also fascinated by him due to the possibilities he represents. He mostly tries to smear Superman's reputation among the public and occasionally even goes as far as creating super-weapons, super-villains and working on plans with the military and spy agencies in order to take Superman down, to little success. He is not truly evil and mellows out as Superman continues his noble crusade, but he'll still be regarded as the not-so-benevolent industrialist who occasionally gets in over his head with malevolent plans and has to be bailed out by Superman. He is also the owner of The Daily Planet and continually butts heads with Perry White over what and what not to publish. He is also much older than Clark – think Lionel Luthor from Smallville. Despite this, he is also deep down a good man, who tries his best to maintain good relations with his underlings and is often regretful of the awful things that happened under his watch. He also at one point creates a Dollar Heroes Division, which is based on various small-time superheroes working and doing hero stuff for money, as well as earning Lex a nice, fat check. Superman operates undercover as part of this group for a brief duration.

Alexandra Luthor – Lex's somewhat younger wife, she is early-on viewed as merely an attractive trophy wife in a business suit. Having met Lex as a college student studying theoretical physics, she's possibly even more ruthless and vicious than Lex, and is equally as clever, although she lacks Lex's calmer demeanor. She usually tries to go behind Lex's back in order to partake in some illegal dealings, and at one point even frames Lex for financial fraud and takes over his company (though Clark proves Lex's innocence eventually). She is also secretly a lover of John Corben and volunteered him for Lex's Metal Patriot cyber-enhancement program. She also hates Superman for his unintentional involvement in the accident which permanently cripples Corben and forces his constant reliance on kryptonite in order to be able to survive (more on that later). She also attempts to assassinate Lex at least twice and frame Lois Lane for it.

Phineas Potter – Lana Lang's maternal uncle and a bona-fide kook, or at least considered as such by the residents of Smallville. While Lana adores him for the most part and tries to help him with his numerous weird experiments, including an attempt to build a warp-powered catapult to launch a greeting stone into Neptune, she still occasionally frets over his seemingly eccentric nature (it is implied that he may be autistic or at least partially on the spectrum). Despite this, Phineas is quite intelligent and is one of the first people to deduce Clark's true power and becomes his ally and fellow adventurer, as well as a Shipper-On-Deck (God, how I hate invoking TV Tropes here) for Clark and Lana. He eventually comes to a gruesome end after Morgan Edge and his criminal gang discover his role in helping the mysterious vigilante who has been getting in their way and proceed to murder him after torturing him, but failing to extract the true identity of the “vigilante” from him. His death briefly creates a rift between Clark and Lana, who blames Clark for Edge going after Phineas, and becomes a catalyst for Clark to permanently take Morgan Edge and his group down (no, he doesn't kill him, just puts him in prison for life). This occurs towards the end of Clark's teenage years, when he has graduated and is getting ready to leave Metropolis.

Perry White – Clark's boss at The Daily Planet and a real hardcase. A former war veteran, he dislikes corporate interference in all its forms and spends a lot of time arguing with Lex Luthor over how to run the enterprise. By the time Clark comes on-board, print is a dying medium and Perry is doing his best to keep The Daily Planet afloat, despite most of his other employees mostly resigning themselves to the possibility of being stuck as Luthor's lapdogs or in the case of Lois, attempting to broaden their horizons beyond newspapers and into other media. He eventually resigns and appoints Clark as the new editor-in-chief of the Planet but Clark decides to hand the role over to Cat Grant instead who turns the Planet into a surprisingly successful political and entertainment satire publication.

Dan Turpin – Tough-as-nails police officer with Metropolis' Special Crimes Unit and a good friend of Maggie Sawyer, his partner. He is initially somewhat distrustful of Superman, due to his suspicious and cynical nature but eventually comes around and becomes one of Superman's biggest champions. He also dislikes the Luthors due to having been screwed out of a promotion by Alexandra Luthor after he ended up wrecking one of her illegal sabotage schemes to take over a competitor's firm (though he never found out that she was responsible for said scheme). He is also bold to the point of being almost suicidal, often confronting metahuman foes head-on before being saved by Superman. He eventually becomes chief of police and after that, successfully runs for mayor.

Dr. Shay Veritas – Superman's Oracle/Alfred. Saved by Superman after a catastrophic science experiment, she resides in a lab at the Earth's core, and provides Superman with valuable information when he is out and about, as well as occasionally join him on his adventures into outer space in order to gather more scientific knowledge (after Superman helps her with her problem...y'know, why she can't leave The Block). She also assists Superman with some of his tech and was responsible for enhancing the Fortress of Solitude's security systems after an attack by Mongul. She is deeply grateful to Superman for saving her and her assistants and sometimes flirts with him just for fun, which Superman bemusedly reciprocates. She does ask him if he's single at one point, though.

Kelex – Superman's A.I. assistant who maintains the Fortress in Superman's absence, who came on-board Kal-El's spaceship. He also controls Superman's robot assistants/bodyguards, which is to say, he is Superman's robot assistants. All of them. He does turn evil at one point when infected by Brainiac, but thankfully, Superman cures him of it.

Zor-El – Co-Leader of New Krypton alongside General Zod and a staunch ally of Superman and proponent of living peacefully among the other residents of the Solar System. He tries his best to be a leader to his people, but still admits that he's not made for the burdens of leadership and that he does not like lording over others. This, however, makes Superman's belief in his right to be a leader even stronger, as Zor-El does not crave power, unlike Zod, who wants to rule a vast empire. He is missing his left hand, which has been replaced with a robotic one, due to the brutal experiments conducted on him by the alien empire which enslaved Argo City and its residents. His wife, Alura, is the leader of the Diplomacy & Trade League, but cannot speak, only communicate via sign language, due to said experiments removing her vocal chords.

Asha Del-Nar – A former member of the Artist's Guild, later a member of the Anti-Brainiac Resistance, and after Kandor is rescued by Superman, a member of the Red Shard division on New Krypton under Superman's leadership. After Superman leaves, he promotes her to leader of the division. She later later forms the Rescue Division in order to save Superman from imprisonment by Dominus. She is also a constant ally of the Man of Steel, frequently accompanying him on interstellar adventures and even assisting him on Earth. She is also unflinchingly loyal to Superman at the cost of her own freedom at times and possibly might have feelings for him.

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#33 Posted by bee14ish (524 posts) - - Show Bio

@orangebat: Again, yours is probably my favorite so far. I really enjoy the thought put into your version of Superman and his supporting characters. Your version would be a joy to read with a quality writer.

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#34 Posted by ScouterV (7764 posts) - - Show Bio

@orangebat:

Character-wise, I think I'd approach Superman as someone who wants to live up to his title, but is confident he can. A mixture of his early New 52 attitude, with the self-assuredness of post-Crises Clark, though lacking the experience to fully back it up--instead owing to potential he knows he has and wants to unlock. His true identity would be his birth-name. Kal-El. It would be his preference, but he'd have no issues with Clark. It'd be the name he gives most people, as only his closest friends and allies would call him Kal-El. I'd retain the idea of him as wanting to do some good in the world without his powers, but instead of newspaper, I'd have him become a bit of a Social Media Star with a highly successful podcast and blog, but under the umbrella of a Daily Planet Network. (The Social System?) Clark would be a pretty outspoken guy on issues he is passionate about, but open to different viewpoints and sought-after to guest on other such platforms. I'd honestly have writing be a passion for him, and what he does when he needs to escape. I'd also bring back the idea he's a descendant of Rao.

In regards to his powers and intellect, I'd give him his base powers, but give him back the Solar Flare and make a point to emphasize his super-intellect under the banner of the ability to understand advanced concepts in a short amount of time, similar to The Flash. Though in that regard, retention would be limited to about 24 hours. I'd also make him an expert Boxer, which he attributes to his idolization of Muhammad Ali. Technology, I wouldn't put much in his hands, though Kal-Ex would maintain an armory in the Fortress of Solitude and offer suggestions when viable, and in that regard, I think I'd have Superman have three Fortresses. His Satellite which was formerly the Collector of Worlds, the Kryptonian shelter in The Antarctic, and a Moonbase where he goes to write. The Satellite would be public, the moonbase private, and the antarctic known to the heroic community. Talking about pets, he's obviously gonna keep Krypto, but also Baka as a partner. He lives in the satellite and guards it for Superman.

Krypton, I would place more in line with the New 52. Part of it being a hellish jungle, populated by dangerous beasts. Krypton would have society in domed cityscapes, but it would be very advanced world. It wouldn't really effect Kal though, but he would often be seen learning about it from Kal-Ex and Eradicator, (Rad). I'd often have him jumping back and forth with breaks between adventures, on Earth and in space.

I'd write Metropolis as a city with two faces. Where Superman is the Defender of the shining, bright city of the day, he is less active at night, but aware of heroes and vigilantes that crusade at night when he isn't working. It'd be a city that changes from feeling like Central City during the day to Star City at night, but it would be seen as a highly advanced--even "smart" city thanks to the efforts of people like Lex Luthor and Ted Kord. Smallville, would essentially remain unchanged. A small, farmtown where Clark often goes to relax if he doesn't feel like going to write on the moon.

His supporting cast, I would make his supporting cast a bit different.

  • Lois Lane and Jimmy would be other big internet sensations. Lois for her outspokenness on women in entertainment, and Jimmy for his endeavors to spread his own wealth to the people and advocacy for people to do the same where they can. The three are friendly rivals and colleagues, and often email and message each other. Clark wouldn't see them much in person because they'd travel a lot, but it would be a big thing to see them all together. Might also have Jimmy and Lois in a romantic relationship.
  • I'd have him struggle with relationships, but primary romantic interests would be Lisa Lasalle (from the Earth-One books), Diana, and Lana. Lisa is basically his first friend he makes in Metropolis, while his roommate and co-host is Lana, and of course Diana is his Super Friend, but that would be more a "In another life/universe," feeling they both have, but something that would be tried out.
  • Other members of his cast would be Perry White and Mrs. Myx who makes sure her husband doesn't go TOO wild when "playing" with Clark, and I would also bring his parents back (Martha and John.) He'd also have holographic messages/recordings of his birth parents that he listens to sometimes hidden throughout his Kryptonian fortress. I'd also make Manchester Black sort of a devil in his ear sort of character. They disagree with each other, and Clark often stops him and his Elite when he thinks they're going to far, and Black tries to tone it down because of that mutual respect. They tend to kind of balance each other. Think Goku and Vegeta in their character interactions.

In regards to whom Superman would call in a fight, I would make the Superman Family consist of:

  • Supergirl (Zor-El/Kara): His cousin, and also a bit of a tutor in Kryptonian history and martial-arts. Jokingly calls him Superboy.
  • Krypto: His best-friend since childhood, that came back to him. I'd go with the ability to switch between the pre-Flashpoint and post-Flashpoint forms depending on his anger.
  • Steel (John Henry Irons): I'd give him the original backstory he had, of being saved and inspired by Superman, and when Superman realized this, he had Kal-Ex help work with him on an armor of their own design.
  • Eradicator (Rad): A computer that now serves Kal-El. It originally wanted to recreate Krypton, but now wants to experience what Earth and the Universe have to offer outside of it's programming.
  • Livewire (Leslie): The first villain Superman tried to rehabilitate. Rough around the edges, but looks up to Superman as a bit of a mentor.
  • Guardian (Harper): Protector of Metropolis before Superman (a clone).
  • Phantom Lady and Dollman (Post-Flashpoint): Protectors of Metropolis after dark. Fans of Superman as well.
  • (Son of) Vulcan: An alien trying to get back home. Friends with Superman, but doesn't quite get that he has to defend people and not destroy stuff at the same time.
  • Stargirl (Courtney): Is inspired by Superman, and wants to be a hero like him and live up to her own legacy. Recently moved to Metropolis.

His other allies would include:

  • Baka (Seen above)
  • Harrow and the Ghost Army
  • Legion of Superheroes
  • Toymaster (Hiro)
  • Manchester Black and The Elites
  • Powergirl (Earth-2 Zor-El)

In regards to his Rogues, I like a lot of them, so I'd probably keep it pretty similar to how it is. I'd probably make Lobo more a threat, by using the Post-Flashpoint version who was more a prep-weapons expert. I'd make Doomsday more intelligent. At least capable of speech, like his DCaU counterpart. Zod would constantly try to get Superman to join him, preferring not to kill him. Basically, he'd be like Vader when he tried to convince Luke to join him. I'd have Conduit also make a return though, with his original origin, but newer armors in appearances. Sort of like Iron Man.

I'd probably have more magic in his foes arsenal. Briar Blackthorn would be more prominent, I'd say.

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#35 Posted by IndomitableRegal (16246 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd write him so I don't find him bland and boring.

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#36 Edited by DogSoldier88 (774 posts) - - Show Bio

1) How would you write the Man of Steel himself? Personality? True identity? Civilian life? Powers? Intellect? Skills? Technology? Pets? Base?

  • I would write him as a human being struggling with the realization that he was not human at all. I wouldn't make him embrace his Kryptonian heritage so readily, because he was raised by loving parents from birth, not knowing anything about his old home, or why they sent him off into outer space alone. I would keep his identity as Clark Kent, and I would have Superman call himself that - not Kal-El. The Kal-El name would just be an alien name, that he's never actually heard spoken throughout his entire life. I would make Clark distinctly American, with mid-western values.
  • His powers-set can remain the same, but his costume would change. I would have him wear a mask or a helmet that completely obscures his face and head. The symbolism fro the mask is that he wants to represent all mankind, and let's people imagine what he really looks like. When they ask him what he looks like under the mask, he replies - exactly like you. The backstory for the mask is that his parents helped him develop something similar when he was younger so he could deal with the outer world as his super-senses threatened to overwhelm him as a child.
  • I would make Jonathan Kent an ex-military, Special Forces veteran, who returned home after serving and became a rural farmer - like many in his community. This would factor into Superman's upbringing, to serve his country and fellow man. Jonathan would also teach his son how to stay off the grid, develop safe-houses in every state, and use all of his powers to his advantage. Superman would think that he is exactly that - a human man with incredible powers of an unknown origin. Jonathan and Martha Kent don't even believe that he is an alien, but likely a military experiment.
  • As far as a "base", I'd have him be a drifter, a wanderer. Imagine, the most powerful being on Earth is an indigent, transient, with safe-houses all across the country - and possibly the world. He'd basically have a comms set up in each locale, and get his information in the same way all people do - through the media and internet. The safe-houses would be in places that only someone with superpowers could locate, and reach.
  • Clark would often change his name, based on where he found himself. Effectively, he'd have multiple secret identities, so as to protect his real identity, that of his Mom and Dad, his family doctor (who would know of his uniqueness), and everyone he'd ever loved and grew up with. They would all be made to believe that he had a job that had him travelling, only coming home for holidays and such, until the natural deaths of both his parents.

2) How would you write Krypton? Life on it? Flora and fauna? History? Relevance to Superman's adventures? Would you Superman more of a space-faring adventurer, like Silver Age Superman or the Fantastic Four?

  • Clark would only discover about Krypton as an adult. John Kent would show him the vessel in which they discovered him. With his Kryptonian senses, he was able to see symbols and instructions on it, that humans could not. THIS is how he found out his true heritage, and his mission - which would be to scout out the plant for colonization, and report back to Krypton. He would learn that he was part of a program to seek out new worlds, because Krypton's star was dying and, with it, their entire solar system.
  • The pod was supposed to allow him to develop into an adult while in Cryo-sleep, but it malfunctioned, and he remained in stasis as an infant. Clark would learn from the recovered Kryptonian pod, that Krypton or other Kryptonians, might eventually make it to Earth.
  • Superman would be an Earth-based hero, not a space adventurer. In this version of Superman, we wouldn't know much about Krypton, except what little was in his Cryo-pod. We would learn about Krypton from other Kryptonian refugees, scouts, and agents who made it to Earth, and would form the greatest villains of this story - Zod, Faroa, Nom, Kara Zor-El, etc.
  • We'd find out that Krypton didn't survive, and that the scout program was a last gasp that failed. We'd also know that there may be colony ships in outer space, looking to make contact with any of the scouted worlds.
  • Kryptonians would be militaristic worshipers of Science and genetic purity, which would put them at odds with Clark at every turn.

3) How would you write Metropolis? Smallville? Other locations where Superman goes to? Would you make him limited to Metropolis, or go global and be to the whole planet what Batman is to Gotham?

  • Metropolis, Gotham, Smallville, etc, would still be the same, but they wouldn't serve as Superman's home base. Clark would not be reporter, live a regular life, with a 9-5 job. He would take on jobs where he could work alone and relied on physical labor, like fisherman, loggers, agricultural work, or a construction laborer. He would use his superpowers to perform these tasks easily, allowing him to slip away to perform heroic deeds. He also would move around alot, and wouldn't stay in any one location for long.

4) His supporting cast? His friendships? His romantic relationships? His allies? What would you alter?

  • His supporting cast would be the people he meets along the way in his many travels.
  • Lois Lane would be a central figure, as she would be trying to unmask the legendary Superman, but she wouldn't know him personally at first. They could still develop a relationship later, but that would be much, MUCH later, as their paths cross over and over, and she starts supplying him with intel on trouble-spots across the globe. She would effectively become one of Clark's inner-circle, along with Bruce Wayne, and eventually other heroes.
  • However, his secret identity would remain just that - a secret.

5) His rogues' gallery? What would you change? What would you add? What would you remove?

  • I kind of already covered this. I would still keep Lex Luthor, as a corrupt corporate tycoon who has machinations of ruling the world. In fact, this version of Lex might know more about Krypton than Superman, st first. This Lex might also have an alliance with a Kryptonian neo-fascist scout or two, who share his views on genetic/racial purity. Yes, my Lex would be a fascist, racist, whatever-ist, who believes that only the chosen few should rule - not too far from some real life people.
  • Kryptonians will be the main enemies, because they share in Superman's physical attributes. However, I would make the Kryptonians have different power-sets due to how their cells mutated and reacted to our sun's radiation. I wouldn't make it simply a factor of our star being "yellow". It would be a complex radiation-based mutation, that actually killed many other Kryptonian scouts and agents. These few, surviving Krytonian mutatnts would serve to become some of Superman's most lethal foes.
  • The rest of Superman's rogue gallery can remain intact - Darkseid, Braniac (another Kryptonian threat), et al.
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#37 Edited by RelloMan (262 posts) - - Show Bio

1.) I would have Kryptonians be the peak of natural evolution... Perfect, non-cosmic beings... Which would explain why they are so unique that just a little bit of yellow sun makes them into some of the most powerful beings in the universe. I would also explain that Human Beings are the closest species in the universe capable of reaching Kryptonian levels of perfection after a few hundred million more years of evolution. They're basically on the same exact path.

This would explain a lot:

  • Why Jor'El chose Earth to send his son.
  • Why Kryptonians and human look so much alike.
  • Why Humans are so readily capable of receiving super powers (explaining the other heroes).
  • Why aliens like Darkseid and Brainiac give a crap about Earth so much.

Among other things.

2.) I would also emphasize his bioelectric aura more often... I feel like they don't talk about it enough, which is why people are still confused by how his powers work. It explains his tremendous strength, invulnerability, flight, super speed, heat vision, and everything else.

3.) Clark Kent and Superman will not have the same friends... No Jimmy Olsen is Superman's Pal, but also Clark Kent's Pal, and no Lois Lane is both Superman's Girlfriend, and Clark Kents partner... Superman would interact with these people in the same way the Flash does in the CW, which is moving really fast, distorting his voice, and never letting them get a good look at him. I mean, at this point, Lois either knows who Superman is which takes away the classic dynamic, or is an idiot. I find this to be the solution. He saves Lois, but it doesn't mean he has to stand their and pose with her afterward.

4.) Kryptonite would be dangerous to everybody. Not a cancer causing long period of exposure, like it is now, but an almost instant feeling of sickness... It just effects Superman worse because of his body's natural dry-sponge-like absorption of radiation, and also it having a way of turning his bioelectric aura against him.

5.) Red Sun radiation does not hurt him, it just eliminates his bioelectric aura, which doesn't make him human, but instead simply means he has to use his own natural strength and durability without a means to fly or any other fantastic powers. He's still, however, significantly stronger than the average person (a little less than Golden Age levels).

6.) I would stop using the term "weak to magic" and replace it much more prominently with "vulnerable to magic" as in his bioelectric aura does not protect him from being turned into a duck or something... Doesn't mean he can't punch Harry Potter in the head faster than Harry can figure out whether it's Levi-OH-sa or Levi-o-SAH...

7.) HE WOULD HAVE POTENTIALLY LIMITLESS STRENGTH, and his bioelectric aura would explain it. He doesn't physically get stronger, but his aura does.

9.) At least one of his parents are alive, preferably both. Doesn't really matter, though.

This is just part 1... I would imagine all of these are already somewhere within the Superman cannon, I just would emphasize them more readily to simplify him for people that don't read comics.

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#38 Edited by walter5james (72 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok. First, Krypton:

1) the destruction of Krypton would be consequence of a civil war against Zod, but right before the planet explodes, Brainiac manages to steal two cities: Argo and Kandor. One of which lived Kara and her parents.

2) Kal's biological parents would try to escape the planet as well so that they could raise their son, but due to a massive screw up by the kryptonian council, they have to activate the contingency plan which boils down to them placing one of those headbands that most kryptonians use (that in my version, would be a psychic remote/smartphone for their technology) inside Kal's ship, wrapping him in blue and red blankets and shooting him to the nearest planet with the highest level of survivability, and since kryptonians would have a reputation for being highly advanced xenophobic assholes, the ship choose a planet that was scientifically backwards and had a yellow sun.

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#39 Posted by Quinlan58 (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

Finally have a take on Brainiac: He'd be a reflection of the side of Superman that thinks he doesn't really understand humans and thus hides himself as Clark Kent to know. By this I mean he'd have spend however long he's been alive abducting cities, destroying civilizations and such, and in all that time he's noticed champions of every species always tell him he'll never really win because he will never break their spirit. After a while, he's grown curious about why all of those "heroes" insist on considering life sacred. So, in between collecting knowledge, commiting genocide and everything Brainiac does on a daily basis, he'd constantly try to understand life. Mostly by putting the people on the bottled cities in even more horrible circumstances and seeing how they react, but also (as I said on my previous post) by planting agents on several planets to understand them. Basically, sociopathic all powerful guy tries to understand the meaning of life (and other people) using sociopathic methods, contrasting with the fundamentally decent all powerful guy trying to understand other people using more empathic methods. And both are utterly stumped.

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#40 Edited by OrangeBat (961 posts) - - Show Bio

@orangebat: I left this a while back and completely forgot about it, so let's finish up.

Lobo - Intergalactic bounty hunter, lovable badass and the Main Man. Mostly out for himself and will switch allegiances at a moment's notice. While he has come into conflict with the Man of Steel on numerous occasions, he harbors a certain liking for the hero, with Superman possibly being the closest thing to a friend he has - by which, Lobo means that he would think twice before selling Superman out to the highest bidder. His role in stories varies - sometimes he's a friend and sometimes he's a foe. His background is shrouded in mystery and despite being a generally easygoing bro, he does not like to speak about his past and does not take well to Superman's occasional inquiries into finding out more behind Lobo's back. More of a comic relief character but with serious underpinnings.

Jimmy Olsen - Seasoned photographer who is about the same age as Clark, maybe a little older. Lois Lane's long-time friend and photographer partner. Instead of Lois treating him like a little kid, Olsen is now much wittier and somewhat sarcastic, often arguing a lot with Lois and having frequent shouting matches over their philosophical differences - Jimmy believes that Lois is too absorbed with getting the story and climbing the corporate ladder while Lois accuses him of not taking the job seriously enough and letting his heart get in the way of objective reporting. They have a bit of belligerent sexual tension going on and eventually hook up for a brief while to get it out of their system. Jimmy is fundamentally disillusioned with news reporting after having started out as an optimistic young man but Superman sparks new hope for a brighter future in his mind. He also instantly takes to Clark and tries to take him out to do man things every now and then, partially because he likes the guy and partially to get away from the office. He does get somewhat jealous when Lois shows interest in Clark but it doesn't wreck their friendship...too badly, anyway. After Clark leaves The Daily Planet, he also retires and becomes a wildlife and nature photographer instead.

Linda Danvers - A rebellious young woman living by herself in Boston and attending university there who is mortally injured in a fight between Superman, Atomic Skull, Parasite and Metallo. Realizing that she would die unless he administered kryptonian medicine to her, Superman takes her to the Fortress of Solitude where he synthesizes an injection combining kryptonian blood with exotic alien chemicals in order to heal her wounds and then drops her off home with no memory of what happened. However, Linda begins developing unique powers soon after the event and after first attempting to use her newfound abilities for mischievous purposes, Superman takes her under his wing and she becomes his sidekick and the first Supergirl. After Kara Zor-El's appearance, she adopts the code-name of Matrix.

Bibbo Bibbowski - Superman's number one fan and wannabe hero with a heart of gold who frequently tries to help out Superman and do good. He attempts to gain super-powers, courtesy of an offer by Lex and Alexandra Luthor, in order to help his role model but ends up going murderously insane as a result of the nano-machine enhancements given to him which caused intense hallucinations. He is restrained and held by Superman in Shay Veritas' lab, until she manages to partially rehabilitate him at which point he is released back into the world. He is, however, never the same, occasionally suffering psychotic breakdowns in his attempts to help people which repeatedly put him back in conflict with Superman. He eventually sacrifices himself to protect an alien colony from Mongul's Warworld, after sneaking along on the journey aboard Superman's spaceship.

Loretta York - Superman's go-to source in all things concerning the arcane, Loretta York was raised by her grandmother and a witch in Smallville, who taught her everything there was to know about magic. While her mother harbored intense hatred for ordinary people and tried to instill her with a superiority complex regarding those with no magic, Loretta was a kind hearted girl who tried to use her gifts to help those in need while concealing her identity. However, her secret was figured out by Clark and the two quickly became allies in the fight against evil after he revealed his secret to her. She was often the target of jealous accusations by Lana, who believed that Loretta was intentionally making Clark spend more time with her than his friends and Lana. She eventually moves to Metropolis and moves in with Clark after a while of him living alone. Most people assume she is Clark's girlfriend, a misconception which Clark and Loretta frequently have to correct...or do they?

Kara Zor-El - Superman's bratty but good-natured teenage cousin. During the explosion of Krypton, she is cut off from her family on Argo City and floats through space in a cryo-chamber inside an escape pod, which crashes on a jungle planet, which is later visited by Superman during his adventures. He discovers Kara and thaws her out, upon which he discovers that she was his older (now younger) cousin. She becomes the second Supergirl and later briefly transfers to New Krypton in order to live with her family there once Superman starts attempting to rebuild their race. She also accompanies her cousin on his numerous adventures into the unknown and has a strong friendship with Shay Veritas as well as a brief, girly crush on Jimmy Olsen.

Lois Lane - The Daily Planet's star journalist, crusader for social justice and bitch supreme at the beginning of the story. She only really trusts Jimmy early on and is focused on becoming the best reporter ever, sometimes at the expense of her humanity and her soul. Part of it is due to her mother's upbringing, who was a third-wave feminist and a father who was tragically killed when Lois was a toddler, leading to lifelong obsession to becoming the best and getting one over the boys. She does, however, have a softer side and is not as much of a horrible, selfish woman as one would initially think. She and Clark have an unspoken attraction as they continue working together, Clark being one of the few besides Jimmy who does not tolerate her nonsense and can keep up with her on an intellectual level. When Perry retires, she becomes a well-known TV reporter and her and Clark go their separate ways.

Maxima - The Queen of Almerac and Superman's occasional (mostly unwanted) ally. They first meet when Maxima is overthrown in a coup and encounters Superman while in exile. While he initially find her annoying, he does help her get back her throne. Maxima, who has become enamored of Superman during this time, blatantly offers him the opportunity to become her king and rule Almerac alongside her but Superman refuses, which doesn't deter her from being confident that he will come around. She is later temporarily roped by General Zod into an alliance to create a new intergalactic empire combining Almerac and New Krypton but eventually wises to his deception. She is also one of Superman's staunchest supporters in the known universe and even helps him liberate Argo City from its oppressors via military support as well as other engagements and adventures.

Lana Lang - Clark's childhood friend and love interest. She had a crush on Clark since they first began school and eventually learns his secret. She also one of the few truly close friends Clark has, with other kids mostly considering him a weirdo. She also the object of affection of Kenny Braverman, Clark's next-door-neighbor, who attempts to befriend both of them in order to get closer to Lana - unsuccessfully so and who later becomes a naval admiral with an intense hatred of Superman. Lana is a fairly intelligent girl and later becomes a geologist working in Hong Kong but still keeping in touch with Clark. Along with Pete Ross, she is one of Clark's core trio of friends when they first arrive in Metropolis and are always, in some way, somehow, in the thick of the action which often causes Dan Turpin to become suspicious of them early on. Think of her and Pete as the Ron and Hermione to Clark's Harry in a way.

Pete Ross - I neglected mentioning the guy earlier because I honestly forgot. In my version, Pete is mostly a background character during Clark's Smallville years and is actually originally a bit antagonistic towards Clark. He is very much a jock-ish archetype (think Flash Thompson) but with an ultimately good heart underneath it all. He befriends Clark on a train ride to Metropolis and, funnily enough, discovers his secret the very same day when said train is attacked by mecha-piloting terrorists. He becomes a police officer in Metropolis and is early on covering for Clark, before the latter becomes Superman but still jumps into the fray during catastrophes to help people as a mysterious hero. Even further on, he becomes a CIA agent who tries to foil any and all inquiries into Superman's true identity and origin, which puts him in the crossfire more than once. Unlike other versions of Pete, he is not interested in Lana...or women, for that matter.

Cat Grant - The Daily Planet's gossip columnist and a seeming airhead, which conceals a surprisingly perceptive woman underneath. She appears to be somewhat obsessed with her appearance, which is due to her extreme insecurities regarding it caused by her husband leaving her and their infant son a few years before (she got married very young) and also explains her deliberately dumb personality as an attempt to appeal to men, whose validation she craves. She is constantly at odds with Lois, who considers her an insult to her sex and is one of the few people who immediately befriends Clark upon his appearance at The Daily Planet, mainly due to the fact that he is one of the few people at work who appears to truly like hanging out with her and does not insult her, instead trying to help her get back on her feet and tutoring her son in mathematics. She eventually develops very strong feelings for Clark, which are not reciprocated due to Clark suspecting that she was mostly just trying to use him to fill a void in her life. Despite this, it's never really explained - so perhaps, Cat really did fall in love with the man and it was Clark's insecurities that, ironically, stopped something happening.

Legion of Superheroes - Teenage heroes from the future. Mostly the same as before, except Superman first encounters them (and they him) as an adult instead of a teenager when they attempt to get his help to stop Solaris from wrecking the timeline and the existence of time altogether. Superman acts as a mentor to many of them, tutoring them in how to become better heroes as well as general knowledge as they need it and eventually, when he is older, I'm thinking of Superman's "Old Man Clark" story which has him permanently move to the Legion's future. Almost everyone he cares about in his timeline is dead, the universe is safer than ever and humanity is reaching new frontiers so fast that he is no longer a special case. His old man stories then have him as a slightly more witty version (he's old in body but young at heart) of Uncle Iroh to the Legion's Zuko, helping them on their many adventures as Mission Control or even in the thick of the action.

This is about it for the supporting cast. I could keep going with Kenny Braverman, Professor Hamilton, Vartox and so on, but I think this is enough to get the general idea. I'll stop there, write up the villains and that should wrap it up. Also, edited this to add a few ideas I had earlier.

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#41 Edited by Ilikecoffee (37 posts) - - Show Bio

Earth name: Clark Kent

Kryptonian name: Kal-El

Pets: None, because they’re lame.

Powers: Super strength, super speed, flight, super senses, invulnerability, and heat vision. That being said, I’d make one small change to Superman’s powers; namely, how they’re produced. Instead of Superman’s power being fueled by a yellow sun, it would instead be triggered by it. And what I mean by that is the yellow sun would cause a genetic mutation in Kal-El resulting in a permanent manifestation of his powers. This means that if all the yellow suns in the universe were to cease to exist, Superman would still have his powers.

Skills: Training in mixed martial arts (i.e. Boxing, Wrestling, Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, Muay Thai). A good understanding of scientific analysis, research, and experimentation.

Base: Fortress in Antarctica housing salvaged Kryptonian technology and knowledge as well as experiments and scientific research.

Personality: Friendly and warm demeanor. Humble yet assertive. Able to understand and feel emotions yet will not let these emotions control his actions. Feels that his power is a great gift and responsibility and wants to use it for good. Enjoys building up other people, motivating them, and inspiring them to do good things. However, there’s a side underneath all of this that can be summed up in one word: guilt. It’s a side that is always present yet always under his control. He realizes that he cannot help everyone and has to constantly choose to save one person over another because he isn’t omnipotent and omnipresent. He sometimes wonders if it would be more moral not to do anything at all. He sometimes wonders if his actions are stunting the moral development of mankind. He also wonders if he is treating and seeing human beings in a way similar to how an owner treats his dog. Because of his super senses, he’s used to hearing the groans of the world. People constantly fighting and dying. And he feels embarrassed when he accidentally hears the private conversations of others. Sometimes he has nightmares of people who futilely screamed for his help.

Intellect: Slightly below genius level. I was never too fond of the idea of Superman being both physically and intellectually unmatched. I don’t like the idea of him being a moron either though. I’d like for him to be gifted, but not at genius-level.

Clark Kent’s civilian job would be garbage man. Why? Because nobody would expect the most powerful being on Earth to be a garbage man. People don’t even look at garbage men, do they? I don’t. They all blur together in those brown/grey uniforms that they wear, and so it would be a good disguise. In a certain sense garbage man isn’t much different from what super man does, right? He’s always cleaning up the messes of our broken world. And I believe Kal-El being a garbage man would have a better chance of keeping him humble and down-to-earth than journalist.

Krypton would have been very much like how Earth looks. The main difference being that Krypton was produced earlier in the universe’s timeline and so the planet had a head start on evolving humanoids. The technology level of Krypton would be type two on the Kardashev scale (ours isn’t even type one). This means Kryptonians had the ability to fully harness the power of their sun. Unfortunately, the machine that encapsulated and channeled the energies of their sun malfunctioned, destroying Krypton in a super nova. The government of krypton was authoritarian and for unknown reasons banned any sort of planetary travel, probably to prevent a colonized planet from breaking away from their regime. The government of Krypton used propaganda, false religious doctrine, and violence to stop people from leaving Krypton. Fortunately, Superman’s father Jor-El, an engineer, had built a ship with plans to travel to another planet with his family to escape the authoritarian regime of Krypton.

Romantic relationships: In the beginning, Superman would be afraid to start any sort of romantic relationship for fear of having to watch a loved one age and then eventually die, long before he receives a single grey hair.

Technology: Superman would have access to very little Kryptonian technology and knowledge; namely, he’d only have access to what was on board his father’s ship. This technology and knowledge is heavily secured in his base in Antarctica and he has no plans to release any of it. The reason being is he believes that mankind isn’t psychologically sophisticated enough to wield such power and is afraid the new technology and knowledge may cause more harm than good, especially if it’s used by a military power. What’s more, some of the knowledge and technology is incomprehensible to even him because he is mostly using human-made technology and knowledge to analyze it.

Superman cares about all human beings and animals no matter where they come from. However, he has a small preference for the United States since that’s where he was raised and that’s where he conducts his civilian life. Superman believes there is a lot of good in the United States, but recognizes the evil it does as well. Superman tries to stay politically neutral in world affairs unless lives are at stake. This will sometimes make him the enemy of entire governments, and the target of fake news and power-hungry politicians.

Main enemy: In short, a politician. A man who controls much of the media in the US and is trying to manipulate the US and other world governments into thinking Superman is a global threat. His main goal is to unite all of the world’s governments under one banner and government, and to destroy Superman. In essence, he wants to establish an authoritarian regime much like the one that Krypton had.

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#42 Edited by TheNomadicOne (25 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman: Earthbound Angel

Superman himself

1. Personality

Raised in Smallville, Kansas, I see Clark as being a very happy child, willing to help his parents whenever they needed help and in turn helping others with his new abilities. Because the majority of Smallville considers him family, as they grew to know and love him as he grew up. As a result, a lot of his personality stems from not just his parents but all of Smallville, it taught him that there's good in people and that even someone like him can be accepted among society. That way Superman doesn't need to travel around the world to know his place because in a way he already found it while he was growing up. I mean Superman will obviously question who he is but it won't be that much of a bother to him.
Anyways to the meat of this section, my Superman will be an amalgamation of all of the main versions of the character: From Golden age to Rebirth. When the story starts, he is already in Metropolis for a few weeks. His persona as Clark Kent is somewhat clumsy (attribute that to being new in the city) but not stupid. He is kind to everyone but can be somewhat irritated if something gets a little too annoying. When he dons the mantle of Superman, his personality is kind but stern, being somewhat naive but also incredibly relaxed and somewhat sarcastic. When he starts out as Superman, he is similar to the original Golden Age Superman, violent but not nearly as brutal, slowly turning into the Rebirth version of the character.
As the story moves along over the next few years, we get to see more signs of this Superman, learning that he is the last of his kind will give out his depression side, but rather than dwell on it, he eventually creates a Fortress of Solitude as both a tribute to his two homeworlds and a safe haven to himself and his eventual Super-family. To summarize this Superman is the best aspects of the character all molded into one individual while having a lot of Character Development.

2. True Identity

I'm of the belief that all of the identities of my Superman will all be the true identity. Superman represents his venting frustrations and also his stress reliever, Clark Kent is representative of the son of Jonathan and Martha Kent as well as an ace reporter of the Daily Planet, and Kal-El is his hidden insecurities and inner loneliness. These three represents the character and all of them are his true identity.

3. Civilian life

I'm an up and coming journalist myself so I know that a lot of journalists will not come in with a suit and tie. Unless you are in broadcasting, most journalists kind of wear somewhat nice but casual clothes. I honestly want my Superman to have a normal life. He lives in a nice apartment in "Shuster & Siegel's" and when he relaxes during after hours, he and his two best friends, Jimmy Olsen and Lois Lane hang out every now and then in "Swan's Tavern". When he is out being a journalist, I would want a lot of depth with the people of Metropolis and Metropolis itself. Unless you're a Gothamite, I feel like Metropolis life is grossly underdeveloped so I hope that developing Superman and his civilian life to be more central with Metropolis, that we can see a ton of development, let us see Superman go to the Suicide Slums and interview the life there. Have Superman's Smallville like mentality be a stark contrast to Metropolis's citizens. Define why Metropolis is so great, why the citizens deserve to be heard.
4. Powers
This is the part where I am going to have to split his powers into years/seasons because I want this Superman to grow and develop his powers the same way everything else develops.
Season 1: The Golden Age of Superheroes.
-Superman's abilities will be a combination of the film Man of Steel and the Fleischer cartoons. This Superman has the titanic strength (can lift tanks and small houses), run approximately 500 mph, and can leap over the tallest building in Metropolis (frame of reference is the Burj Khalifa). However, he can also fly but he needs a running start and he can fly up to Mach 1. What's more, he has heat and x-ray vision, which at the moment are in there most basic form. He also has Super breath which can blow away about 5 people by about a block. In terms of his durability, he is completely bulletproof however a piercing shell can bruise him.
Season 2: Intergalactic Miracle
-Superman's abilities improved considerably as the years go by, he trains during his spare time and his initial abilities have doubled. But the moment he learns his true heritage does he unlock all of his abilities. By that time his powers go from double to 15 times. He can now lift large battleships, run at the speed of sound and the strongest thing that he can survive is the Tsar Nuclear Bomb. He can fly up to about Mach 5 and his heat vision can now literally melt 5 ft of steel. His senses also increase dramatically, able to hear from the other side of Metropolis and unlocking the power of freeze breath. Essentially his power set is similar to Byrne's level of power.
Season 3: Rebirth
-When Superman comes back from the dead, his powers get enhanced even further, now being around the level of Rebirth Superman. He can now breath in space, travel faster than the speed of light, survives being blown away by a supernova, and can destroy planets and stars with his fists alone. This Superman gets such a power boost that only more intergalactic threats can seriously harm him.
Season 4: Family
-When his son is around 15 years old (most likely gonna do a time skip here), Superman not only has much more experience now, but he has now reached the zenith of his abilities. Being the happy middle ground of Kingdom Come Superman and Silver Age Superman, this Superman can carry around several planets with one arm, powerful enough to survive a literal erasure of a universe, look out from the other side of the solar system, and is now resistant to all of his weaknesses.

5. Intellect
My Superman will be considered a genius in the same way Okabe Rintarou is a genius in Steins;Gate. While he isn't a polymath like Bruce Wayne or a sheer genius like Lex Luthor, he is intelligent enough that he can keep up with them. As a strategist, I would argue that my Superman is even better than Batman. Because he is more varied with his enemies, he knows and can find ways to fight them better. He may not be the best in terms of prep time, but this Superman can definitely make Batman think twice about using Kryptonite.
6. Skills
-Expert Reporter: This Superman is one of the best in his field, rivaling that of Lois Lane and the Question. What stands Lois and Clark apart is their connection with their respective communities. Superman as a reporter has better connections with his sources as individuals, but Lois should be better at finding amazing stories. Superman is the better writer, but Lois is better at expressing emotions.
-Expert Combatant: This Superman should be a master of his craft. While he is very much a brawler, he isn't afraid of using kicks, in fact, I want Superman to take what he has learned from fighting individuals like Batman, Wonder Woman, and Darkseid, and develop his own fighting style. This Superman fights with his powers, yes, but with enough experience under his belt, Superman as a fighter won't have to use them.
-Basic skills in cooking: Superman in the kitchen he is not. He is getting better though.

-Expert Mechanic: Probably a talent inherited from his family, Superman is an amazing mechanic, building Kelex and the Fortress of Solitude with nothing but Kryptonese notes and creative intuition.

7. Technology
Definitely a combination of Krypton and Earth technology. I want this Superman to be a son of two worlds. So his Fortress of Solitude should totally reflect that. In terms of his journalism equipment, it should be standard earth stuff but personally customized to suit his needs.

8. Pets
In terms of pets, I think it would be awesome if this Superman gets all of them as the story goes on. Krypto, Streaky the Cat, the Supermonkey, and even the Superhorse should make an appearance. However, I want only Krypto to be the only Kryptonian animal, while the rest are genetically engineered similarly to Superboy.

9. Base
I want Superman to have three bases. One is his home which eventually expands once the Super-family comes along, his first fortress the Mountain Fortress from the Golden Age which gets destroyed during the time he dies. Finally his current base, the fortress of Solitude in the South pole. But not in Crystals, as I said before, I want these fortresses to be a literal fusion of Earth and Krypton.

I'll finish the rest later

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#43 Posted by buttersdaman000 (22862 posts) - - Show Bio

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#44 Posted by bee14ish (524 posts) - - Show Bio

@orangebat: I left this a while back and completely forgot about it, so let's finish up.

Lobo - Intergalactic bounty hunter, lovable badass and the Main Man. Mostly out for himself and will switch allegiances at a moment's notice. While he has come into conflict with the Man of Steel on numerous occasions, he harbors a certain liking for the hero, with Superman possibly being the closest thing to a friend he has - by which, Lobo means that he would think twice before selling Superman out to the highest bidder. His role in stories varies - sometimes he's a friend and sometimes he's a foe. His background is shrouded in mystery and despite being a generally easygoing bro, he does not like to speak about his past and does not take well to Superman's occasional inquiries into finding out more behind Lobo's back. More of a comic relief character but with serious underpinnings.

Jimmy Olsen - Seasoned photographer who is about the same age as Clark, maybe a little older. Lois Lane's long-time friend and photographer partner. Instead of Lois treating him like a little kid, Olsen is now much wittier and somewhat sarcastic, often arguing a lot with Lois and having frequent shouting matches over their philosophical differences - Jimmy believes that Lois is too absorbed with getting the story and climbing the corporate ladder while Lois accuses him of not taking the job seriously enough and letting his heart get in the way of objective reporting. They have a bit of belligerent sexual tension going on and eventually hook up for a brief while to get it out of their system. Jimmy is fundamentally disillusioned with news reporting after having started out as an optimistic young man but Superman sparks new hope for a brighter future in his mind. He also instantly takes to Clark and tries to take him out to do man things every now and then, partially because he likes the guy and partially to get away from the office. He does get somewhat jealous when Lois shows interest in Clark but it doesn't wreck their friendship...too badly, anyway. After Clark leaves The Daily Planet, he also retires and becomes a wildlife and nature photographer instead.

Linda Danvers - A rebellious young woman living by herself in Boston and attending university there who is mortally injured in a fight between Superman, Atomic Skull, Parasite and Metallo. Realizing that she would die unless he administered kryptonian medicine to her, Superman takes her to the Fortress of Solitude where he synthesizes an injection combining kryptonian blood with exotic alien chemicals in order to heal her wounds and then drops her off home with no memory of what happened. However, Linda begins developing unique powers soon after the event and after first attempting to use her newfound abilities for mischievous purposes, Superman takes her under his wing and she becomes his sidekick and the first Supergirl. After Kara Zor-El's appearance, she adopts the code-name of Matrix.

Bibbo Bibbowski - Superman's number one fan and wannabe hero with a heart of gold who frequently tries to help out Superman and do good. He attempts to gain super-powers, courtesy of an offer by Lex and Alexandra Luthor, in order to help his role model but ends up going murderously insane as a result of the nano-machine enhancements given to him which caused intense hallucinations. He is restrained and held by Superman in Shay Veritas' lab, until she manages to partially rehabilitate him at which point he is released back into the world. He is, however, never the same, occasionally suffering psychotic breakdowns in his attempts to help people which repeatedly put him back in conflict with Superman. He eventually sacrifices himself to protect an alien colony from Mongul's Warworld, after sneaking along on the journey aboard Superman's spaceship.

Loretta York - Superman's go-to source in all things concerning the arcane, Loretta York was raised by her grandmother and a witch in Smallville, who taught her everything there was to know about magic. While her mother harbored intense hatred for ordinary people and tried to instill her with a superiority complex regarding those with no magic, Loretta was a kind hearted girl who tried to use her gifts to help those in need while concealing her identity. However, her secret was figured out by Clark and the two quickly became allies in the fight against evil after he revealed his secret to her. She was often the target of jealous accusations by Lana, who believed that Loretta was intentionally making Clark spend more time with her than his friends and Lana. She eventually moves to Metropolis and moves in with Clark after a while of him living alone. Most people assume she is Clark's girlfriend, a misconception which Clark and Loretta frequently have to correct...or do they?

Kara Zor-El - Superman's bratty but good-natured teenage cousin. During the explosion of Krypton, she is cut off from her family on Argo City and floats through space in a cryo-chamber inside an escape pod, which crashes on a jungle planet, which is later visited by Superman during his adventures. He discovers Kara and thaws her out, upon which he discovers that she was his older (now younger) cousin. She becomes the second Supergirl and later briefly transfers to New Krypton in order to live with her family there once Superman starts attempting to rebuild their race. She also accompanies her cousin on his numerous adventures into the unknown and has a strong friendship with Shay Veritas as well as a brief, girly crush on Jimmy Olsen.

Lois Lane - The Daily Planet's star journalist, crusader for social justice and bitch supreme at the beginning of the story. She only really trusts Jimmy early on and is focused on becoming the best reporter ever, sometimes at the expense of her humanity and her soul. Part of it is due to her mother's upbringing, who was a third-wave feminist and a father who was tragically killed when Lois was a toddler, leading to lifelong obsession to becoming the best and getting one over the boys. She does, however, have a softer side and is not as much of a horrible, selfish woman as one would initially think. She and Clark have an unspoken attraction as they continue working together, Clark being one of the few besides Jimmy who does not tolerate her nonsense and can keep up with her on an intellectual level. When Perry retires, she becomes a well-known TV reporter and her and Clark go their separate ways.

Maxima - The Queen of Almerac and Superman's occasional (mostly unwanted) ally. They first meet when Maxima is overthrown in a coup and encounters Superman while in exile. While he initially find her annoying, he does help her get back her throne. Maxima, who has become enamored of Superman during this time, blatantly offers him the opportunity to become her king and rule Almerac alongside her but Superman refuses, which doesn't deter her from being confident that he will come around. She is later temporarily roped by General Zod into an alliance to create a new intergalactic empire combining Almerac and New Krypton but eventually wises to his deception. She is also one of Superman's staunchest supporters in the known universe and even helps him liberate Argo City from its oppressors via military support as well as other engagements and adventures.

Lana Lang - Clark's childhood friend and love interest. She had a crush on Clark since they first began school and eventually learns his secret. She also one of the few truly close friends Clark has, with other kids mostly considering him a weirdo. She also the object of affection of Kenny Braverman, Clark's next-door-neighbor, who attempts to befriend both of them in order to get closer to Lana - unsuccessfully so and who later becomes a naval admiral with an intense hatred of Superman. Lana is a fairly intelligent girl and later becomes a geologist working in Hong Kong but still keeping in touch with Clark.

Cat Grant - The Daily Planet's gossip columnist and a seeming airhead, which conceals a surprisingly perceptive woman underneath. She appears to be somewhat obsessed with her appearance, which is due to her extreme insecurities regarding it caused by her husband leaving her and their infant son a few years before (she got married very young) and also explains her deliberately dumb personality as an attempt to appeal to men, whose validation she craves. She is constantly at odds with Lois, who considers her an insult to her sex and is one of the few people who immediately befriends Clark upon his appearance at The Daily Planet, mainly due to the fact that he is one of the few people at work who appears to truly like hanging out with her and does not insult her, instead trying to help her get back on her feet and tutoring her son in mathematics. She eventually develops very strong feelings for Clark, which are not reciprocated due to Clark suspecting that she was mostly just trying to use him to fill a void in her life. Despite this, it's never really explained - so perhaps, Cat really did fall in love with the man and it was Clark's insecurities that, ironically, stopped something happening.

Legion of Superheroes - Teenage heroes from the future. Mostly the same as before, except Superman first encounters them (and they him) as an adult instead of a teenager when they attempt to get his help to stop Solaris from wrecking the timeline and the existence of time altogether. Superman acts as a mentor to many of them, tutoring them in how to become better heroes as well as general knowledge as they need it and eventually, when he is older, I'm thinking of Superman's "Old Man Clark" story which has him permanently move to the Legion's future. Almost everyone he cares about in his timeline is dead, the universe is safer than ever and humanity is reaching new frontiers so fast that he is no longer a special case. His old man stories then have him as a slightly more witty version (he's old in body but young at heart) of Uncle Iroh to the Legion's Zuko, helping them on their many adventures as Mission Control or even in the thick of the action.

This is about it for the supporting cast. I could keep going with Kenny Braverman, Professor Hamilton, Vartox and so on, but I think this is enough to get the general idea. I'll stop there, write up the villains and that should wrap it up.

Awesome! Really interested in seeing your take on Supes' villains.

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