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    A constantly changing black ops group composed primarily of incarcerated super-villains who perform black ops missions with a low chance of survival in exchange for the possibility of a shortened sentence. This "squad" was organized and put together by Amanda Waller. The official name is "Task Force X", it's nickname is the "Suicide Squad".

    Analyzing David Ayer's Suicide Squad Movie

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    Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

    Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is going to be huge for the DC Cinematic Universe. Whether it's any good has obviously yet to be seen, but from everything we're hearing, it seems like it's going to take big steps to expand this universe and build the hype for the Justice League movies and hero spin-offs. When the dust settles from Batman v Superman, it's not going to be Wonder Woman or Flash stepping into the spotlight. Instead, director-writer David Ayer's Suicide Squad is the movie that'll follow the big screen debut of Batman fighting Superman. Tha probably won't be an easy act to follow, will it?

    David Ayer's commonly known for Fury, Sabotage, End of Watch, and writing Training Day. (I can't be the only one kind of hoping Captain Boomerang says, "Deadshot ain't got **** on me!") Those aren't exactly about cheerful characters skipping around in a beautiful field on a gorgeous and uplifting day. Those movies immerse us in dark, ugly, and violent worlds -- worlds where the main characters don't feel safe at all. Hey, that kind of describes Suicide Squad's world, doesn't it? Okay, I can see why Warner Bros. and DC selected this guy for the task (force x). Sure, the quality between those movies fluctuates -- Fury and End of Watch received a lot of love and Sabotage received a whole lot of "meh" -- but his history shows he has the potential to be a great fit for expanding the grittier part of the DC Cinematic Universe.

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    Fury focuses on a small cast and takes several steps to pull us into their world and help us understand why they're the way the are. Why have these people grown so cold? Is there any heart left in them? Will this kind of life impact everyone the same way? Only rarely does it go into talking about their past and instead focuses on justifying who they currently are. When you're dealing with several new characters on the Suicide Squad, that approach is very beneficial. Let their personalities and a intimate few scenes tell the audiences who these characters are. There's no need to show us a detailed origin story for all of them (the movie would need to be absurdly long and it would kill the pacing) and there's no need to have them spew totally forced exposition. To me, Fury showed he can help us understand and establish a connection to characters without the need for an infodump. When they do wish to open up and discuss who they are, it's presented in a more emotional and fitting way instead of feeling like a random way to present the viewer with some facts. That approach would work so well with this cast and the several dynamics it can produce.

    Ayer's work is rated R and it seems pretty unlikely Suicide Squad will be R. Maybe they'll surprise us, but aiming for PG-13 opens the film to a wider audience and honestly, you can still get away with a ton of harsher material. Any creative director can still offer a dark, shocking, and violent atmosphere with that rating. You don't need to excessive gore or constant swearing to establish the tone this movie needs and, with this rating, you can reserve those more stunning moments for when they'll make the strongest impact. I really don't think a PG-13 rating would hinder it. Maybe Ayer won't get to go as graphic as he wants to, but he can still get away with a whole lot. As violent as a Suicide Squad movie could be, it's really about the characters, their relationships, some twists, and the commentary it can offer. Can villains be trusted, even if you place an explosive in their head? How far will the government go to address more elaborate and powerful threats? Can you root for a villain?

    Suicide Squad is an interesting choice to follow-up a movie that possibly ends with the forming of the Justice League. You'd think we'd immediately see exploration of those iconic characters and that's what many fans would want, but Suicide Squad gives this universe the chance to offer something that's hopefully different. As these super powered beings emerge across the planet and begin to take bigger matters into their own ridiculously capable hands, this would be a huge concern for the government. I mean, how many times have we seen this topic addressed in the various animated shows or comic book titles? Answer: a lot. There's no reason why it wouldn't be an important issue here, so Suicide Squad has the opportunity to flesh out humanity's more twisted response to this new stage while also offering a ton of fan service and worldbuilding. This is a storyline where a darker and grittier approach feels natural and it gives the studio a chance to make us fall in love with some of DC's villains without making them feel secondary.

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    Some may view Suicide Squad as a risk and understandably so. "How can you follow a Batman and Superman movie with a team that a good amount of casual moviegoers have never even heard of before? With so many comic book movies out there, why would they want to give this their money?" Some may cite Guardians of the Galaxy as an example of lesser-known characters being able to earn a crazy amount of money at the box office, but Marvel Studios spent years building a following and, of course, a more than fair amount of credit goes to just how much personality James Gunn put into the movie. Sci-fi may not be for everyone, but that movie was simply fun and hilarious -- it's something that almost anyone can enjoy. Suicide Squad doesn't have the same advantages going for it. Not everyone has faith in DC's direction; not everyone wants a gritty and intense action movie. They're bringing in big names to help compensate for that -- this movie needs some star power to create more appeal and interest -- but a few of these people are absolutely qualified for the roles, too.

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    I've seen people say they're against Will Smith because of After Earth. Really? You're going to look at the dude's resume and judge him based on that -- a script that called for him to be totally emotionless, bland and boring? That doesn't seem like a fair thing to cite, especially when he's given so many charismatic performances and more emotional performances (The Pursuit of Happyness). It's not like he's unfamiliar with action movies, too. As long as he gets some epic facial hair, I'm confident Will Smith can become a somewhat cold and quick-witted badass. As for Jared Leto, the guy won an Oscar not too long ago, people. You may not like his personality and becoming the next Clown Prince of Crime brings huge expectations, but the actor has certainly proven he can transform himself and dedicate himself to a role quite well. The potential is there. As for whether Joker's needed, I think Batman: Assault on Arkham showed he can be incorporated in an entertaining way, so as long as he doesn't totally steal the spotlight, I'm all for it. It'll add a little more weight to Batman's mythos, plus his interactions with the others could be twisted and fun. We still don't have many official details about the role he plays, after all. As for Margot Robbie, she was terrific in The Wolf of Wall Street and proved she has no problem holding onto an accent, so she definitely has potential to become a standout version of Harley Quinn. Aside from Viola Davis as Amanda Waller, the rest of the cast don't instill as much confidence, but we'll just have to wait and see how that turns out. At the very least, we know there's at least four impressive leads.

    Just like every other upcoming comic book movie out there, this one has roughly a gazillion rumors floating around and I'm sure we haven't seen the last of them. The ones that are worth talking about are whether Batman and Deathstroke will play a role. With so many new characters to establish in this universe, the idea of forcing even more characters into the narrative isn't exactly appealing. However, they can definitely make it work if they play it smart. The big rumor abut the Dark Knight is just that he's discussed and there's some security footage. It seems like his role is beyond minimal and he's instead talked about instead of playing a pivotal role. As for Deathstroke, they simply need to establish him as this world's amazingly efficient mercenary. Blow us away with a fight scene, offer just a hint of depth, and leave us wanting more. That way we're getting plenty of fan service and it doesn't get in the way of the Suicide Squad's spotlight. You know, that's assuming these rumors even pan out. It sounds like they would be pretty cool, so here's hoping they do.

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    The DC Cinematic Universe is off to a very polarizing start. Some of us love the new take on Superman while others think it wasn't an appropriate direction for the Man of Steel. I mean, people are still arguing about it (even though everyone's mind is pretty much made up at this point). However, the debate a darker tone won't be an issue in Suicide Squad. This is the kind of movie that needs that kind of direction and can thrive because of it. If it does wind up being polarizing, I'm guessing it'll probably be because of any drastic changes to the Joker. But we'll just have to wait and see about that, won't we?

    As of right now, I think David Ayer's Suicide Squad has the potential to be a pretty awesome and clever action movie. His work shows he can present the kind of visceral chaos you'd expect from the Suicide Squad while also offering audiences a clear picture of what makes each of these villains unique. Plus, this movie has the opportunity to unleash a tidal wave of fan service (Harley Quinn and Joker together on the big screen; possibly the Squad vs. Deathstroke) and a satisfying amount of worldbuilding. If Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice is building the Justice League and getting us invested in the heroes, this can show us the other corner of the planet and get us emotionally connected to the not-so-nice characters. This can show us the DC Cinematic Universe has villains with depth and leave us wanting to see even more of them. Well, more of the ones that survive, of course. Fingers crossed Suicide Squad is every bit as smart, cheerworthy, and intense as we hope it'll be.

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    #1 the_stegman  Moderator

    2016 needs to hurry the hell up!!

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    " Those aren't exactly about cheerful characters skipping around in a beautiful field on a gorgeous and uplifting day."

    I demand a Dead shot/Captain Boomerang spin off where they do just this.

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    Not with Will Smith as Lawton.

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    #4  Edited By Saren

    There's a rumor that Joe Manganiello is going to be Deathstroke, and those rumors have intensified since he recently dropped out of a TV commitment that would have clashed with Suicide Squad filming. Can you imagine if that happens? He's 6' 6'', same as Dwayne Johnson. Momoa is 6' 5'', Affleck is 6' 4''. RDJ has to wear heels when he's standing around Hemsworth. DC is truly the company of larger-than-life characters.

    I have started the console wars, you may now proceed

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    I'm gonna wait for the trailers before I do any judging but, here's to a awesome and well-done 'Suicide Squad' adaptation.

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    #6 the_stegman  Moderator

    @saren: This DCCU will be a very intimidating place to live.

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    I still think that Will is not what I could consider my personal choice for Deadshot. That he has charisma? Of course he has, tons! You just have to watch MiB, Independece day, Bad Boys, Hitch, I am legend, Pursuit of Happiness, even Hancock; but then something changed and he kinda lost the thing that made him the superstar that he was, it was as almost doing a part for the check. And after seeing the animated film Batman Arkaham Assault, I hope that Will can find his awesomeness that he had before.

    Jared Leto the moment they anounced him as the Joker I couln't be more happy, the guy really give his best to the movies he's part of, Margot Robbie I still haven't found anyone that disagrees with this cansting choice, she is perfect. Viola Davis is a good choice.

    Let's hope for the best, it has the potencial to be amazing

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    Great Article.

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    I cant believe people are complaining about will smith ....yes after earth wasn't the best movie he made but it wasn't as bad as people said ...also he carried a lot of films ...he'll shine in this movie especially because he doesn't have to carry the whole film....did anyone see his movie "focus" with Margret Robbie they had a lot of chemistry .....he got nominated for an Oscar for ALI and did anybody see pursuit of happiness? he can act ...I think having him in suicide squad shows warner brothers is really committed to this movie and that's good ...yes they could have gotten an actor more in line with deadshot's look in the comic books but they got one of their top actors into the dc movie universe ...its a win win

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    DCCU sounds amazing to be honest

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    I think it's brilliant that DC is going with this movie. I REALLY hope it works.

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    2016 needs to hurry the hell up!!

    Exactly. Sometimes I wish I could just build a Tardis or something and time travel to +2016 but 2016 is coming up pretty quick though

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    #13  Edited By The Impersonator

    Looking forward to see the return of Suicide Squad in Arrow Season 3...for now.

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    #14  Edited By mickey-mouse

    If they are gonna put Deathstroke in this film he better have his super powers. Please DC don't make him a whimp.

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    Honestly the only thing I'm not looking forward to about this movie is that it might force me to watch Harley and Deadshot screw again

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    #16  Edited By Mrfuzzynutz

    I am thinking will be the GOTG 'surprise hit' for DC

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    I hope they do that deadshot and harley quinn moment like they did in the New 52 comics and animation,really thought it was pretty cute and wouldn't mind seeing it again!

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    Agree almost completely. Points I feel are worth noting however:

    • It seems DC is set on differentiating itself from Marvel by being dark and gritty. This is such a shame, and doesn't match the tone of the source material at all, for the most part. Still, it's the direction they are going in, so I look forward to being able to enjoy what comes.
    • The fact that Snyder is not behind this makes me think it will be the first good entry in the DCCU. MoS was polarizing at best. BvS may be immensely enjoyable, but I don't expect it to be a good film.
    • I'm sure Jared Leto will play a fine Joker, although I think his winning an Oscar is nonsense. He won an Oscar for playing a transgender woman which was not at all accurate, and quite upsetting to the trans community.
    • Joe Managellio is rumored to be playing DeathStroke which is awesome, although I think he was a missed opportunity to play Batman.
    • I don't think unknown characters are EVER an issue. People see films because of what they hear, trailers, and because for the type of movie it is. People don't have to know these characters to know they want to see a violent action film, just as people didn't know John Wick or The Losers.
    • Absolutely no one seems to care that Deadshot had his race changed. Either do I, but I'm used to it being an issue.
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    I actually like that they are following up BvS with Suicide Squad. If BvS is about the heores, and the beginnings of the Justice League (supposedly) then Suicide Squad can provide the flip side to that coin and show us what the villians are up to in this new DCCU.

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    @muyjingo: I see your point.. Nobody really cares about the fact that they changed his race they are calling about the fact that Will Smith is playing the part.. In fact I could care less too that his race is changed and that Will is playing him he's a great actor and it will draw people who are fans of his into theaters more likely than not.. I'm glad DC nabbed him!! That means it has some much potential going in than anything else right now! And yes he needs to have an epic beard to pull it off... Now as far as Deathstroke being in the movie... That is awesome!! Just don't know the actor rumored to play him but he would definitely have to be a Bad Ass for the movie

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    I think Will Smith's ego will jeopardize the whole thing.

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    After watching Fury I have no doubt Ayer can pull this off.

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    @muyjingo: dude zack snyder is a producer in suicide squad film,and will be a producer in wonder woman too problably will be producing more standalone movies like aquaman its normal because the story how dc universe movies is created is from him so its only normal...and i like the idea he can inject some badass action squences in all movies coming there is nobody better than him well maybe michael bay is at same level

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    This is and X-Men: Apocalypse are the two comic movies that I am actually looking forward to. I hope they give good screen time to some of the lesser known characters. What makes this such a great movie is that we're getting to see villains/characters that we typically do not see on the big screen such as Deadshot, Harley and Boomerang. I hope they do a good job introducing and developing the characters.

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    @darksuper: Sure, he will be a producer, but that's a hell of a lot better than having as much control as a director does. I don't deny he has a great visual flair, but he isn't at all suited to the character development and world building crucial to the success of the DCCU.

    BvS will be a much talked about film, it will be entertaining and it may even be as good CA2. It will also be completely overshadow by by subsequent films made by better directors.

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    @muyjingo: well i know he is not a story wise thats why they got chris terrio a Oscar winner and ben affleck is on top of is game for sure he would not risk if the screenplay is not amazing só zack directing Oscar winners storys it Cant never get bad or wrong and he knows comics...he is only doing what he is best doing...visuals and faithfull to comics the story is his what is good the guy is a geek he know about the stuff but iam with you the screenplay Cant be from him but we have chris terrio for that

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    @darksuper: I don't mean story wise and I never mentioned screenplay. I mean in his capacity as a director. He's terrible. His only strength is CGI fueled visual spectacles, and while he has a knack for that kind of thing, that isn't enough to support a film.

    His peak should have been as a music video director or commercials.

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    @lifepool said:

    Not with Will Smith as Lawton.

    Agreed.

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    #33  Edited By Dr_Cheesesteak

    @ostyo said:

    I think Will Smith's ego will jeopardize the whole thing.

    I hope not. And actually think it won't. Granted, his ego is quite huge. But I think w/ a pseudo-ensemble cast, he may check his ego at the door. I'm kinda hoping he's one of the casualties. =D

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    @muyjingo: well you Cant expect a comic book adaptation about godlike heroes not be fueled with CGI thats why i like him he stays true to the comics level powers of the characters i want a batman like the comics and i will have with him,superman check thats power like the comics i dont want a powerless thor like thor in marvel movies a punny god..só bring on the CGI SPECTACLE in comics is all about it

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    @darksuper: Dude! Stop with the strawmen. I'm not against CGI and I have no problem with it being used.

    If all you care about is CGI battles then yeah, I can see why you love him. If you care about ANYTHING else that contributes to the quality of a film, I'm less able to understand that.

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    #36  Edited By 2cool4fun

    > I've seen people say they're against Will Smith because of After Earth. Really?

    Damn I didn't even know people actually did this, like ffs people...

    But anyway, I am putting all of my faith into this, this movie being good is just as important as JL, not as much as BvS tho, cause after the mixed reactions of MoS, BvS needs to blow people away.

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    Have to say I am pretty excited about this movie.

    Ayer has a very good track record in terms of his past films. I think his style will really suit the Suicide Squad.

    I also think for the most part the casting is great. I really believe Leto, Robbie and Smith are great casting choices if they can all bring their A game. I've only see Jai Courtney in Divergent so I really don't have too much of an opinion on his acting.

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    @saren said:

    There's a rumor that Joe Manganiello is going to be Deathstroke, and those rumors have intensified since he recently dropped out of a TV commitment that would have clashed with Suicide Squad filming. Can you imagine if that happens? He's 6' 6'', same as Dwayne Johnson. Momoa is 6' 5'', Affleck is 6' 4''. RDJ has to wear heels when he's standing around Hemsworth. DC is truly the company of larger-than-life characters.

    I have started the console wars, you may now proceed

    This has interested me a lot. I really like him and he would be a wonderful fit for the role, if you ask me.

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    I only fear some national outcry is going to occur over something suicide related in the next year and the they'll be forced to changed the name of the film.

    In vvhich case i am very much looking forvvard to "Task Force X" in 2016

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    After watching Assault on Arkham and hearing the casting of Smith and Robbie, I am very interested in the upcoming Suicide Squad film. Also hoping that the rumor of Joe Manganiello as Deathstroke is true!

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    I think Smith is the most concrete actor involved. Robbie is great in Wolf On Wallstreet, I've yet to see Focus. But she could totally pull a Gerard Butler, and never do anything worth watching again.

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    Two things!

    1. I am still looking forward to the Suicide Squad! Really the only movie I keep getting excited about when it comes to superheroes (Flash might the next. I liked Ezra is Perks of Being a Wallflower. Its one of my favorite movies actually. MIGHT!).
    2. I don't get why Suicide Squad would be a risk. I mean yes the next obvious thing to do after introducing Batman to the movie universe would introduce us more to either the Batman characters or Wonder Woman though Suicide Squad seems good. I mean whats so risky about? Two of the characters starring on it is Joker and Harley Quinn. The two have a pretty huge fanbase. More than Wonder Woman's or any of the other heroes really. They are pretty damn popular. And Suicide Squad can help establish the government of the DCCU.
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    #45  Edited By SinnTek1

    After watching Assault on Arkham and hearing the casting of Smith and Robbie, I am very interested in the upcoming Suicide Squad film. Also hoping that the rumor of Joe Manganiello as Deathstroke is true!

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    Super excited for this. Have they found a replacement for Tom Hardy/Rick Flagg yet?

    Will Smith is fine, as long as his kid's not involved.

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    Nice article, Greg.

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