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    #51  Edited By Azronger

    @noobsnowman: Yes, as a joke. I'm not going to seriously argue it in a thread unless #teamswtor starts the lowballing game.

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    @i_like_swords

    Quite a while ago, yeah. Like I said, things change. That was at a time where Kun was sorely underrated and I thought less of Dooku.

    If you call that "fawning", by all means.

    Of course things change. I am interested to know what caused the change. I have no interest in coming off confrontational on this, but a guy changes his mind for reasons which when expressed in an articulate way( since we don't always recollect arguments off the tip of our fingers), not only helps in debating, but helps shape out perspectives on the matter too.

    Though that would be derailing the thread here, but on the other hand, what kind of discussions would you have here anyway?

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    @azronger said:

    @lordofthelight: He saw the light and accepted Sheev into his heart.

    I don't think you grasp how the darkside works bro

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    Wow Azronger you're bullying Valkorion lol.

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    Awesome post. Lol. Vitiate relies too much on amps.

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    @darthmanhunter: Thanks. And yeah, he has been on a non-nexus environment only once in his entire millenia-long life. Pretty telling.

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    You forgot about Darth Sidious. We all know Valkorion is a Saturday morning cartoon villain.

    Darth Sidious Failings

    1. Sidious got defeated by a pregnant Princess Leia. She was powering Luke with Harmony. Remember Sidious is insanely powerful. Luke should have not been able to defeat sidious even with harmony.

    2. Darth Vader throwing Sidious down a reactor chute. Knowing how powerful Sidious is. This should have not happened.

    3. Death Star being destroyed twice.

    4. Ignoring Thrawn's advice about the Death Star.

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    #62  Edited By Azronger

    @lordzedd: Only the last two are legit fails. The first two have context behind them and can't be used against His Imperial Majesty's eminence. Even so, the fact that you only managed to find so few in contrast to the Shit Emperor's dozens upon dozens might provide a clue as to who was the more successful, intelligent, and brilliant Machiavellian mastermind in the long run >:)

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    @azronger: A Death Star design flaw caused his defeats.

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    @azronger: This video points out a logical flaw in your argument. Even Family Guy (everybody does) makes fun of it.

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    @lordzedd: Dude you're sounding more than a little desperate right now. Come to terms with His Imperial Majesty's supremacy; accept him into your heart and the pain will disappear.

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    @azronger said:

    @lordzedd: Dude you're sounding more than a little desperate right now. Come to terms with His Imperial Majesty's supremacy; accept him into your heart and the pain will disappear.

    Its not my fault the majesty isn't to bright. He got defeated by a pregnant Carrie Fisher. I'm Lord Zedd..I kneel to no one.

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    @azronger:

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    @lordzedd: So be it, Vitidiot.

    I don't like Valkorion. I called him a Saturday morning cartoon villain. Calling me a idiot is rich. Darth Sidious got defeated by a pregnant Carrie Fisher.

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    @lordzedd: For someone who allegedly doesn't like Valkorion, you sure sound butthurt.

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    @azronger:

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    @lordzedd: For someone who allegedly doesn't like Valkorion, you sure sound butthurt.

    I'm not butthurt sweetheart. I just view both Sidious and Valkorion as equal failures. Sidious got defeated by a pregnant woman.

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    @lordzedd: Sheev one-shot said pregnant woman many times. You can't find any genuine flaw in His Imperial Majesty, so you resort to fabricated information. Suuuuure, you aren't butthurt at all... ;)

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    @azronger said:

    @lordzedd: Sheev one-shot said pregnant woman many times. You can't find any genuine flaw in His Imperial Majesty, so you resort to fabricated information. Suuuuure, you aren't butthurt at all... ;)

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    You are delusional my friend, and denial is strong in you.

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    @lordzedd: Yeah, and after Leia pushed a weakened Palpatine, the latter proceeded to one-shot her. Also I don't see Leia doing that alone in the last image, and Palpatine was literally caught off-guard as mentioned in the very next panel. And then he came back stronger anyway.

    Your trolling is so shit, you're gonna need toilet paper.

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    @azronger said:

    @lordzedd: Yeah, and after Leia pushed a weakened Palpatine, the latter proceeded to one-shot her. Also I don't see Leia doing that alone in the last image, and Palpatine was literally caught off-guard as mentioned in the very next panel. And then he came back stronger anyway.

    Your trolling is so shit, you're gonna need toilet paper.

    Calling me a troll that is rich.

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    Better than most respect threads out there.

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    @dark-sith123: Thanks. Will probably update this soon.

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    @wollfmyth209: @saiyatoniansage: @emperordmb: @kbroskywalker: @greysentinel365: @darthfallax: @lordofthelight: @azronger: @i_like_swords: @noobsnowman:

    I'm going to be taking Azronger's argument apart.

    1. Marka Ragnos only lost to Jaden Korr because he was using the skills, powers, and abilities of the Dark Jedi. It wasn't his own body. In his original body Marka casually backhands his pet Terentatak. Darth Sidious didn't die of old age like Marka Ragnos did. Marka Ragnos was successful throughout his life.

    2. Naga Sadow bypassed Ludo Kressh's defenses, because he didn't put up his force defenses. Caught off guard, like when Vader threw Darth Sidious into the reactor. Not to mention Darth Traya's comment about Ancient Sith being masters of combat.

    3. The video is self explanatory.

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    4. Many people in Star War community don't understand Valkorion. The video breaks down his character.

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    5. You nitpick and trying to use logical fallacies in your argument, and posting things out of context. The sith lose because they are the bad guys. it is PIS...Valkorion lost because of the plot just like every sith.

    A. Sidious couldn't defeat harmony amped Dark Emire Luke. Despite Banite powerscaling debunks this notion.

    B. Darth Vader throwing Darth Sidious into the reactor.

    and so on....

    This video is just in case if you are in denial. The sith lose because of the plot.

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    Cheers mates..

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    #81  Edited By Azronger
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    Some people got really mad, lmfao.

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    @dark-sith123: Indeed. Can't handle how their favorite character sucks so bad :)

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    #84  Edited By Necromancer76

    @azronger: I can’t name anyone else who walked into a lightsaber

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    @necromancer76:

    The TFU novel implies that Shaak Ti jumped into Galen's blade.

    They'd probably fall in love

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    #86  Edited By Necromancer76

    @dark-sith123: I thought she fell into a pit or something.

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    #87  Edited By dark-sith123

    @necromancer76:

    An extract from the novel:

    She gasped and staggered backward. Her lightsaber and her gaze dropped. A full half meter of red blade emerged from her stomach, then the rest came free with a hiss.

    He backed away, shocked by how close he had come to death and how lucky he had been to defeat her. He had raised his lightsaber by reflex. She had, in the desperation of her final assault, practically thrown herself on the blade. Perhaps she had meant for the two of them to defeat each other at the same time.

    Her weakening fingers let go of her lightsaber, which deactivated with a click as it spun away into the sarlacc’s mouth. She didn’t look angry, just weary and in pain. Her red skin was suddenly very pale.

    He feinted toward her, but she didn’t react in any way, except to look at him.

    The Force Unleashed

    Relevant tidbit highlighted.

    Yay! I reached 1000 posts!

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    @dark-sith123: Fair enough, but it seems she was a lot closer at killing Starkiller than Vitiate’s maneuvere.

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    #89  Edited By dark-sith123

    @necromancer76:

    Yeah, Vitiate's is still much dumber. Only this could be considered on the same level of stupidity (not exactly walking into a saber):

    Wielding double-bladed lightsabers is incredibly dangerous, and unskilled Sith have ended their own lives -and the lives of those around them - when attempting to use such a weapon before their training is complete.

    Star Wars: The Old Republic Encyclopedia

    Quality saber skills.

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    This is rather juvenile.

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    #91  Edited By AncientDarksider

    We all know Azronger that Star Wars is dead just like your father's sex life.

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    #93  Edited By LordAlarcj1782

    Love it!

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    #94  Edited By S_W_LeGenD

    This thread is FUN to read (made me laugh as well) but it has run its course. Following are important considerations.

    1. BioWare SWTOR official updates depict The Outlander as having the Jedi Knight class background (DEFAULT choice and most logical consideration as well as extrapolation of the original class stories); other classes can be instructive but are subjective choices. The next most logical consideration is the Jedi Consular class based on original class stories.

    2. Lord Dramath was a powerful Sith Lord - having sufficient knowledge and skills to produce a Sith holocron which is by no means an easy accomplishment for a Sith Lord. Sith holocrons were uncommon items throughout history for obvious reasons.

    3. Tenebrae (The Sith Emperor) was multi-tasking on many counts in subtle/unspoken ways such as in the form of preventing recovery of NATHEMA and enabling the Imperial Guard to draw from him in order to fight intruders - all the while confronting Revan and T3-M4 in the throne room. T3-M4 struck when he was subjecting Revan (Reborn) to a massive blast of Sith Lightning with both hands - he still managed to save himself and all but atomized the offending droid (this is not a negative but an accomplishment). Meetra Surik employed Lightsaber Throw technique to disarm the Emperor from AFAR but she was at a tactical disadvantage - she could either save Revan (Reborn) or strike at the Emperor. When Darth Vader betrayed Palpatine on Death Star, the latter did not see it coming. Shit happens and nobody is infallible.

    4. Tenebrae (The Sith Emperor) did not infiltrate the mind of Lord Scourge because this was proving damaging to the Sith Lord. Lord Scourge was doing the Emperor a favor by outting the Dark Council to him and the latter was intrigued.

    5. Theron Shan learned to strengthen his mind under tutelage of Jedi Master Ngani Zho. He was lacking in Force-sensitivity but he inherited meaningful qualities from his parents. It is not unusual for a well-trained living being to have a mind which can withstand Jedi Mind Tricks and the sort - Cade Bane is but one example. Tenebrae (Vitiate) was already expending much energy dominating the minds of countless living beings on Ziost at the time - it is difficult to do this to one strong mind as per D6 sourcebooks let alone countless. Theron was but a footnote to Tenebrae (Vitiate) on Ziost anyways.

    6. The 'walking into the Lightsaber' part is legit pointer. However, this is a one-off and a logical explanation is possible.

    7. Tenebrae (as VOICE named Valkorion) engineered his death by the hand of The Outlander to infiltrate his mind and then manipulate him into liberating The Eternal Empire from tyrants in the form of Arcann and Vaylin respectively. His plan was to hollow out The Outlander from within after liberation of The Eternal Empire and was biding his time for the needful.

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    #95  Edited By killbilly  Moderator

    Nobody's posted here in 3 months. Disrespect threads are just joke threads. No need to take them so seriously Legend.

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    He still walked into a lightsaber.

    Standard Jedi Padawan > Vitiate confirmed

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    Dope Thread

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    This thread is FUN to read (made me laugh as well) but it has run its course. Following are important considerations.

    1. BioWare SWTOR official updates depict The Outlander as having the Jedi Knight class background (DEFAULT choice and most logical consideration as well as extrapolation of the original class stories); other classes can be instructive but are subjective choices. The next most logical consideration is the Jedi Consular class based on original class stories.

    2. Lord Dramath was a powerful Sith Lord - having sufficient knowledge and skills to produce a Sith holocron which is by no means an easy accomplishment for a Sith Lord. Sith holocrons were uncommon items throughout history for obvious reasons.

    3. Tenebrae (The Sith Emperor) was multi-tasking on many counts in subtle/unspoken ways such as in the form of preventing recovery of NATHEMA and enabling the Imperial Guard to draw from him in order to fight intruders - all the while confronting Revan and T3-M4 in the throne room. T3-M4 struck when he was subjecting Revan (Reborn) to a massive blast of Sith Lightning with both hands - he still managed to save himself and all but atomized the offending droid (this is not a negative but an accomplishment). Meetra Surik employed Lightsaber Throw technique to disarm the Emperor from AFAR but she was at a tactical disadvantage - she could either save Revan (Reborn) or strike at the Emperor. When Darth Vader betrayed Palpatine on Death Star, the latter did not see it coming. Shit happens and nobody is infallible.

    4. Tenebrae (The Sith Emperor) did not infiltrate the mind of Lord Scourge because this was proving damaging to the Sith Lord. Lord Scourge was doing the Emperor a favor by outting the Dark Council to him and the latter was intrigued.

    5. Theron Shan learned to strengthen his mind under tutelage of Jedi Master Ngani Zho. He was lacking in Force-sensitivity but he inherited meaningful qualities from his parents. It is not unusual for a well-trained living being to have a mind which can withstand Jedi Mind Tricks and the sort - Cade Bane is but one example. Tenebrae (Vitiate) was already expending much energy dominating the minds of countless living beings on Ziost at the time - it is difficult to do this to one strong mind as per D6 sourcebooks let alone countless. Theron was but a footnote to Tenebrae (Vitiate) on Ziost anyways.

    6. The 'walking into the Lightsaber' part is legit pointer. However, this is a one-off and a logical explanation is possible.

    7. Tenebrae (as VOICE named Valkorion) engineered his death by the hand of The Outlander to infiltrate his mind and then manipulate him into liberating The Eternal Empire from tyrants in the form of Arcann and Vaylin respectively. His plan was to hollow out The Outlander from within after liberation of The Eternal Empire and was biding his time for the needful.

    Oh come on! Posting serious arguments on such a beautiful joke thread?

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    @darthor said:
    @s_w_legend said:

    This thread is FUN to read (made me laugh as well) but it has run its course. Following are important considerations.

    1. BioWare SWTOR official updates depict The Outlander as having the Jedi Knight class background (DEFAULT choice and most logical consideration as well as extrapolation of the original class stories); other classes can be instructive but are subjective choices. The next most logical consideration is the Jedi Consular class based on original class stories.

    2. Lord Dramath was a powerful Sith Lord - having sufficient knowledge and skills to produce a Sith holocron which is by no means an easy accomplishment for a Sith Lord. Sith holocrons were uncommon items throughout history for obvious reasons.

    3. Tenebrae (The Sith Emperor) was multi-tasking on many counts in subtle/unspoken ways such as in the form of preventing recovery of NATHEMA and enabling the Imperial Guard to draw from him in order to fight intruders - all the while confronting Revan and T3-M4 in the throne room. T3-M4 struck when he was subjecting Revan (Reborn) to a massive blast of Sith Lightning with both hands - he still managed to save himself and all but atomized the offending droid (this is not a negative but an accomplishment). Meetra Surik employed Lightsaber Throw technique to disarm the Emperor from AFAR but she was at a tactical disadvantage - she could either save Revan (Reborn) or strike at the Emperor. When Darth Vader betrayed Palpatine on Death Star, the latter did not see it coming. Shit happens and nobody is infallible.

    4. Tenebrae (The Sith Emperor) did not infiltrate the mind of Lord Scourge because this was proving damaging to the Sith Lord. Lord Scourge was doing the Emperor a favor by outting the Dark Council to him and the latter was intrigued.

    5. Theron Shan learned to strengthen his mind under tutelage of Jedi Master Ngani Zho. He was lacking in Force-sensitivity but he inherited meaningful qualities from his parents. It is not unusual for a well-trained living being to have a mind which can withstand Jedi Mind Tricks and the sort - Cade Bane is but one example. Tenebrae (Vitiate) was already expending much energy dominating the minds of countless living beings on Ziost at the time - it is difficult to do this to one strong mind as per D6 sourcebooks let alone countless. Theron was but a footnote to Tenebrae (Vitiate) on Ziost anyways.

    6. The 'walking into the Lightsaber' part is legit pointer. However, this is a one-off and a logical explanation is possible.

    7. Tenebrae (as VOICE named Valkorion) engineered his death by the hand of The Outlander to infiltrate his mind and then manipulate him into liberating The Eternal Empire from tyrants in the form of Arcann and Vaylin respectively. His plan was to hollow out The Outlander from within after liberation of The Eternal Empire and was biding his time for the needful.

    Oh come on! Posting serious arguments on such a beautiful joke thread?

    My apologies, dear.

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    #100  Edited By Darthor

    @darthor said:
    @s_w_legend said:

    This thread is FUN to read (made me laugh as well) but it has run its course. Following are important considerations.

    1. BioWare SWTOR official updates depict The Outlander as having the Jedi Knight class background (DEFAULT choice and most logical consideration as well as extrapolation of the original class stories); other classes can be instructive but are subjective choices. The next most logical consideration is the Jedi Consular class based on original class stories.

    2. Lord Dramath was a powerful Sith Lord - having sufficient knowledge and skills to produce a Sith holocron which is by no means an easy accomplishment for a Sith Lord. Sith holocrons were uncommon items throughout history for obvious reasons.

    3. Tenebrae (The Sith Emperor) was multi-tasking on many counts in subtle/unspoken ways such as in the form of preventing recovery of NATHEMA and enabling the Imperial Guard to draw from him in order to fight intruders - all the while confronting Revan and T3-M4 in the throne room. T3-M4 struck when he was subjecting Revan (Reborn) to a massive blast of Sith Lightning with both hands - he still managed to save himself and all but atomized the offending droid (this is not a negative but an accomplishment). Meetra Surik employed Lightsaber Throw technique to disarm the Emperor from AFAR but she was at a tactical disadvantage - she could either save Revan (Reborn) or strike at the Emperor. When Darth Vader betrayed Palpatine on Death Star, the latter did not see it coming. Shit happens and nobody is infallible.

    4. Tenebrae (The Sith Emperor) did not infiltrate the mind of Lord Scourge because this was proving damaging to the Sith Lord. Lord Scourge was doing the Emperor a favor by outting the Dark Council to him and the latter was intrigued.

    5. Theron Shan learned to strengthen his mind under tutelage of Jedi Master Ngani Zho. He was lacking in Force-sensitivity but he inherited meaningful qualities from his parents. It is not unusual for a well-trained living being to have a mind which can withstand Jedi Mind Tricks and the sort - Cade Bane is but one example. Tenebrae (Vitiate) was already expending much energy dominating the minds of countless living beings on Ziost at the time - it is difficult to do this to one strong mind as per D6 sourcebooks let alone countless. Theron was but a footnote to Tenebrae (Vitiate) on Ziost anyways.

    6. The 'walking into the Lightsaber' part is legit pointer. However, this is a one-off and a logical explanation is possible.

    7. Tenebrae (as VOICE named Valkorion) engineered his death by the hand of The Outlander to infiltrate his mind and then manipulate him into liberating The Eternal Empire from tyrants in the form of Arcann and Vaylin respectively. His plan was to hollow out The Outlander from within after liberation of The Eternal Empire and was biding his time for the needful.

    Oh come on! Posting serious arguments on such a beautiful joke thread?

    My apologies, dear.

    I got a tag 11 month later...

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