Strongest character Spider-Man has/can beat?

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#1 Posted by deactivated-5bb6a6f86dc65 (4972 posts) - - Show Bio

So, who is the strongest character Spider-Man has beaten, or can beat in this setting:

New York City at daytime, with no citizens around that need saving.

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#2 Posted by NotJeffrey (27 posts) - - Show Bio

There was that time in AvX where he turned 2 of the Phoenix Five members against each other. I don't know if you consider that "beating" them though

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#3 Posted by The_Waffle (690 posts) - - Show Bio

Uncle Ben

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#4 Posted by Mexicutioner (950 posts) - - Show Bio

Firelord

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#5 Posted by HighAccuser (9696 posts) - - Show Bio

He beat Firelord with the symbiote. I'd say outside of that idk.

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#6 Posted by blackspidey2099 (6734 posts) - - Show Bio

@nerevarine_11: That wasn't the symbiote, it was a cloth replica of the suit made by Black Cat since she found it "sexier" IIRC.

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#7 Posted by Jimishim12 (1554 posts) - - Show Bio

probably ironman or storm.

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#8 Posted by The_Valeyard (736 posts) - - Show Bio

Firelord

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#9 Edited by chuckwolf (925 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_valeyard said:

Firelord

Firelord is nowhere near the strongest... powerful in an over all way, with the flames and durability sure but he's only a 50 tonner. But you have to remember Spidey is one of the few people to have actually knocked out the Hulk, he's also taken down Titania who is an 85 tonner, Rhino an 80 tonner, regularly.

He beat Firelord with the symbiote. I'd say outside of that idk.

The symbiote didn't increase Spidey's strength or abilities any, it simply changed his attitude making him a bit more confident.

In fact it copied Spiderman's strength and some of his agility to give to eddie brock which is why brock... was only slightly stronger than Parker while using the symbiote, Brock as a normal human was a powerhouse.

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#10 Posted by deactivated-5ba89dccd4593 (353 posts) - - Show Bio

Superboy, though that wasn't canon.

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#11 Posted by deactivated-5bb6a6f86dc65 (4972 posts) - - Show Bio

Okay, who is the strongest character Peter can beat without PIS? (So no Firelord or Juggernaut answers please.)

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#12 Posted by The_Valeyard (736 posts) - - Show Bio
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#13 Posted by blackspidey2099 (6734 posts) - - Show Bio

@dirtytree333: without prep probably someone slightly stronger than Rhino (who lifts 85 tons IIRC).

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#15 Posted by KrleAvenger (26208 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably Rhino without prep or using weaknesses.

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#18 Posted by deactivated-59848080e4380 (225 posts) - - Show Bio

Definitely Firelord.

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#19 Edited by chuckwolf (925 posts) - - Show Bio

On a side note, I never saw why everyone considers the fight vs Firelord to be PIS.

I know Firelord has the ability to survive in space, survive the temperature at the core of stars etc. but that doesn't make him totally invulnerable to impact, just temperature.

When it comes down to a physical fight Spidey just has Firelord outclassed. OK I admit Firelord is slighly stronger than 50 tons vs 40 tons for spidey, But what spider-man has in his advantage is he is massively faster when it comes to combat speed. for every attempted blow Firelord (or any opponent without superspeed) makes, Spidey can make 40 or more.

And none of this "but Firelord is faster than light" stuff... yes he is faster than light... but only while flying through space, not while in combat, that's the Flash's gig. Firelord is no faster in combat that most humans.

Meaning To Spider-man he's standing completely still and attempting to attack in slow motion.

There are those who say, but Firelord is too durable none of Spider-man's punches would have had any effect. Umm you do know that Spider-man can hit hard enough to stun the Hulk if he tries, and has on more than one occasion. Firelord is nowhere near as durable as the Hulk, so by association... that point is moot.

Now Firelord could have beaten Spider-man fairly easily, by simply using an AoE fire attack that Spidey could not move out of the range of fast enough. His mistake was letting Spider-man get in close, in close Spider-man is one of the most powerful overall fighters in the MU.

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#20 Posted by izamanaick (228 posts) - - Show Bio

@chuckwolf: Spidey is a 40 tonner? I thought he was only at 20 after The Other which may or may not still be canon.

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#21 Posted by christianrapper (6406 posts) - - Show Bio

spidey has beaten almost everyone.

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#22 Edited by chuckwolf (925 posts) - - Show Bio

@izamanaick said:

@chuckwolf: Spidey is a 40 tonner? I thought he was only at 20 after The Other which may or may not still be canon.

Well Bios of his state he can lift about 20 tons without effort meaning with the same ease a normal human would lift a 10 or 20 lb bag of potatoes, compare that to how much weight you can lift overhead while straining. Spider-man has been shown to lift 40 tons and more numerous times.

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#23 Posted by izamanaick (228 posts) - - Show Bio

@chuckwolf: Yeah that part I know, but I just thought his limit was 20.

Anyway, I don't suppose you have any panels showing off the >40 tons stuff.

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#24 Edited by chuckwolf (925 posts) - - Show Bio

@izamanaick:

Just a few: Lifting a 42.5 ton Train Car overhead with ease.

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Supporting 80+ tons of Daily Bugle building while injured.

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Landing a jet weighing at least 52.5 to 57.5 tons on his back and that does not include the added g-force from the thrust of the engines.

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#26 Posted by spider11211 (1428 posts) - - Show Bio

His biggest show of power will be getting a good writer.

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#27 Posted by magnetic_eye (1739 posts) - - Show Bio

@spider11211: said

"His biggest show of power will be getting a good writer."

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^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^. Hahaha!

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#28 Posted by deactivated-5bb6a6f86dc65 (4972 posts) - - Show Bio

spidey has beaten almost everyone.

And he has been beaten by almost everyone.

Also to the people saying that the Spider-Man vs Firelord battle wasn't PIS - Why? In the end Spider-Man's tactics did nothing to Firelord, who was unfazed by an exploding building and earlier in the comic took no injury when Peter punched him, but suddenly in the last few panels Spider-Man can beat him up easily? It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

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#29 Edited by Avatar_of_Green (3214 posts) - - Show Bio

Guy who thinks Spider-Man is better in combat than Firelord???

Wtf?? Firelord has taken out entire space armadas by flying through battleships. He can fly near or faster than lightspeed. Saying he is "only a 50 tonner"... so? That is irrelevant. Franklin Richards is a 0 tonner and he would wreck almost anyone.

Are you joking?

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#30 Posted by Avatar_of_Green (3214 posts) - - Show Bio
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#31 Posted by christianrapper (6406 posts) - - Show Bio

@christianrapper said:

spidey has beaten almost everyone.

And he has been beaten by almost everyone.

Also to the people saying that the Spider-Man vs Firelord battle wasn't PIS - Why? In the end Spider-Man's tactics did nothing to Firelord, who was unfazed by an exploding building and earlier in the comic took no injury when Peter punched him, but suddenly in the last few panels Spider-Man can beat him up easily? It just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

i don't' know about all that. i was just answering the question. spiderman has beaten just about everyone from street levelers to guys like dr. doom.

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#32 Posted by Jueix (2567 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#33 Edited by BoredCrew (5 posts) - - Show Bio

If we are talking about 616 Spiderman, he punched Hulk into orbit, and destroyed the Tri-Sentinel that was sent by Loki, if that counts, he also blitzed and defeated part of the Thunderbolts on Civil War

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#34 Posted by Thiagl156 (164 posts) - - Show Bio

@boredcrew: That's Cosmic Spidey you're talking about though.

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#35 Posted by BoredCrew (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@thiagl156: Cosmic Spider still appeared on 616 universe and he didn't specified if which version of spiderman.

But iirc, spiderman ( the non-augmented one) had defeated the x-men , fantastic four, and blitzed the thunderbolts ( This was on Civil War)

I know this doesn't count, but in the novel of Civil War, he killed Thor's clone.

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#36 Edited by Thiagl156 (164 posts) - - Show Bio

@boredcrew: Yeah, but the general consensus is that he's talking about regular Spidey. And the X-Men and FF held back against him in all of their fights, otherwise, Peter would have been toast. He was also amped during Civil War. But I agree with you on the rest.

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#37 Posted by BoredCrew (5 posts) - - Show Bio

@thiagl156: I am talking about when Spiderman first encountered both of these teams.

During Civil War he wasn't amped, unless you mean the iron spider, then that would be amped, but he wasn't using said armor

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#38 Edited by Thiagl156 (164 posts) - - Show Bio

@boredcrew: Oh, got it.

Anyways, he WAS amped in Civil War. He had "The Other" boost when Civil War was happening. I'm not saying he couldn't replicate that feat without a boost, tho.

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