@thor_parker82:
What do you mean by "drab" ? If the writing is good then reading the books should be a pleasure.
Good writing can be subjective to one's own interpretation or perception. Peter's behavior annoys the hell out of me because of how he's always choosing Aunt May wanting to preserve the life of an old woman who should have disintegrated, always running towards any chance at putting on the costume to delay or escape the responsibilities in front of him, disregarding Mary Jane a lot of times, and just his general naive goodness that demands he be humble and modest even when in serious need himself. That combined with the misfortunes that happen to him and how he reacts instead of thinking things through every single time and not being smart about anything is what makes it such a "drab" read for me.
Edit: I guess in retrospect I am projecting more what I want to see rather than what already is.
No, stop your train right there, you know that is not true, quite the opposite, they overcame that because they were together, that was the sole reason they came on top after all the horrible situations they went through, neither would have came out unscathed from that without their love for each other, it was that very same love that kept them sane and strong even through the most difficult of times, and yes, they were a lot, but I'd argue that the good moments were even more, and if by chance they weren't and the ratio was 1 to 1000000, it was still worth it, because the good moments they had were absolute gold, and they were quite a lot.
If Peter and Mary Jane had been apart they would not have fared better, not even close, they NEED each other because they push each other to being the very best versions of themselves, and that is an enormous help when going through bad situations, and an enormous bliss to have someone to share the great moments.
I know that all the trouble they went through, they overcame it because they loved each other. But if they had not been together they would have also not faced many of those troubles in the first place. I think MJ would have still come across her various stalkers and Peter would continue to be the same old Spidey.
And I hate that thought. As I said its the tiny venom of logic infecting me from Quesada and Slott. At times I shake it, at times it comes back.
Why do you see marriage as the end-all of relationships though ? Are you a devoted catholic ?
Marriage is not necessarily the end of the line or the "maximum expression" of love, I know it's more symbolic than anything, but at the end of the line, marriage is just a piece of paper if we look at it cold headed. They can be together and partners fully commited to each other without that marriage, it's not a "must" for them to show the readers that they are meant to each other or that they are fully commited to their relationship, plenty of people spend their lives together without getting married and live happily.
I did grew up in a God fearing household that values marriage and doth not see it as a mere legal document or status. Not catholic though.
Marriage is exactly the end game and ultimate expression of love. Its the vow and commitment to be true to the other till the end of their days and its only binding because the two partners who want to get married hold those binds to stay together. To say marriage is a piece of paper is to disregard the magnitude of how important it really is. Its like saying its not really that important which it is. Nowadays with the morally dubious society we live in and with the massive rise of divorce, everyone tends to forget the importance and value and purpose of marriage in the first place.
Peter and Mary Jane in the OMIT timeline basically had what you say is being together and partners without being married. Many people live like this but Peter and Mary Jane were married in the first place so that's a part of them. They were together in this "committed" relationship but they ended broken up. They didn't start a life together, they didn't start the family they wanted together, it just ended. Granted its all thanks to OMD and OMIT but still, its what you say above. Its proof that that kind of relationship won't amount to anything for Peter and Mary Jane. They're just drifting aimlessly.
Now don't get me wrong, I DO want them married, but I'm not in a hurry to see that happen nor do I see it as a must, I'd rather have them develop a strong relationship again after all these years apart and have them married at the end of Spencer's run, which hopefully lasts at least 3 years.
Considering all the trouble Marvel went through to eliminate the marriage in the first place, I don't think they would ever make, what they see as a mistake, again.
They're together again and that's good but the clock doesn't reset, everything they went through together before counts.
The only possibility of them being remarried is with the resolution of OMD IMO.
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