How would you write Spider-Man's confrontation with Mephisto over the deal?

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#1 Posted by Green_Tea (10583 posts) - - Show Bio

Let's just say Marvel has decided to give us what fans really wanted, for 616 Peter and MJ to finally get back together. The first part to this would be Peter confronting Mephisto about the shit deal they made together. This is where you come in, how would you write it? What artist would you want to draw your story?

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#3 Posted by Thatlyn Yoaeg'ill'rymmin (4238 posts) - - Show Bio

"Mephisto, I'm here to bargain"

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@solid_snake97:

SINS CLEANSED

May and the Picture: The story starts off with Aunt May in her house. She's a little sad because she's alone and decides to look through some old family photos. Aunt May smiles as she sees pictures of Peter as a baby and as a teenager along with Uncle Ben. How he was a good boy with a great mind. She's so proud of him. She continues to look and sees Peter's graduation pictures, pictures with the gang with Harry, Flash, Gwen and MJ. Then her look turns sadder as she nears the photos of what should have been Peter and MJ's wedding (f*ck OMIT). When she turns the page, she is surprised to see a page size picture of Peter and MJ kissing in their wedding ceremony. "It doesn't make sense" she said "they never got married. Peter never showed up". May takes the picture in her hand and upon closer examination, she is struck with images of another life, a life when Peter and MJ did marry and she also sees her multiple brushes with death. What May just experienced were flashbacks from before the deal with Mephisto, the altered past, the true past. Aunt May is confused and doesn't know what to do. She calls Peter but he doesn't answer so she leaves him a message. May packs the picture in an envelope along with a written letter and mails it to Peter. Those flashbacks have struck May with fear and she refuses to leave her home. After she mails the picture to Peter, May continually gets flashbacks of that past she has forgotten.

Peter and the Picture: After finishing his patrol of NY, Spider Man returns to his home and finds the envelope in his doorstep. After changing from his tights, Peter sits down in his couch and opens the envelope. He reads Aunt May's letter and becomes nervous after reading it. Peter takes the contents of the envelope and sees the picture of him and MJ at the wedding. Peter, much like May, is surprised to say the least, because to him that's not what happened. He looks back at the event and how he messed up and missed the wedding. At the same time, Peter is struck by another set of memories that tell another story. Peter remembers being afraid of marriage because of the dangers of Spider Man but then shows up late to the wedding and says his vows. Peter is in a state of confusion. He calls Aunt May and asks where this picture came from and if someone strange delivered it. May explains that she found it in the old photo albums, that no one has come by, that it was just there. Peter takes the picture again and upon closer examination he gets another set of flashbacks. These brief flashbacks were of his honeymoon, his early marriage and of hard times. Peter's confusion escalates and he analyzes the picture in his home lab but only finds out that it’s just a picture, nothing constructed or fake. It's real.

MJ's Involvement: Peter decides to call MJ and asks her about their wedding day. The conversation turns sour when MJ reminds Peter that he missed it because of Spider Man. Peter tells MJ that Aunt May found a photo of the wedding, one where both of them were kissing as the pastor pronounced them man and wife. MJ is taken off by this and asks for an explanation. Sadly, there isn't one to give as Peter explains that May found it in old photo albums. A page size authentic photograph of a successful wedding day. It wasn't a fake, it wasn't constructed and it isn't from an alternate dimension. Peter knows pictures and he assures her that its authentic and that's why it bothers him. He tells MJ that received flashbacks, images of the wedding and their supposed married life. Aunt May also received this sudden blast of memories. MJ is disturbed by this and asks what Peter wants. Peter asks her to meet him at the Coffee Bean to see the picture herself and to see if it has the same effect on her.

The Reunion: Two days later, MJ meets Peter in the Coffee Bean. They exchange "hellos" and "how are yous" and then Peter shows her the picture. MJ is stunned to say the least because that's not what happened though its what she wanted to happen. Peter tells her to examine the picture closely and when she does she is struck by images and flashbacks of that day. Her visions go even further as she remembers their early years together, the struggle and the perseverance. MJ gets a headache afterwards and Peter asks the cashier for pain relievers. MJ is confused at this and continues to question Peter about its authenticity and if this is just some trick to get back together. Peter is slighted by that comment but doesn't dwell on it and instead assures MJ that its real. MJ says that it was in Aunt May's house and that they need to go there and get to the bottom of this.

The Revelation: Peter and MJ travel to Aunt May's house and find her unconscious in the attic with a lot of photo albums and pictures of Peter and MJ married. Peter and MJ wake her up and May says "Something's not right". Peter and MJ help May retrieve the pictures but as they collect them they see both of them together and happy. In the presence of so many pictures that shouldn't be, Peter, MJ and May are overwhelmingly struck by many images, flashbacks and memories. They collapse under the weight of such a strain of their minds. The three then go on to wake up in a distinct setting, an abstract time where their surrounding is both strange and familiar. They are surrounded by thousands of pictures and a single massive book. These pictures descend into a whirlwind as they're collected by the great book. From the shadows Mephisto appears and takes the book and telling them "This is mine. All of it.". Mephisto then shifts his gaze to a silhouette and says "This belongs to me, they surrendered it themselves of their own free will". The silhouette reveals itself to be the One Above All (in the same form as his Sensational Spider Man appearance) who rebuffs Mephisto by saying "They are victims of trickery and your sinister manipulation. Because of this I will be their advocate in this trial".

The Trial Begins: Peter demands to know what's going on and what's happening. The One Above All tells him that he and MJ have sinned, but their sin is a result of desperation and sinister trickery, which is why there will be a trial. That picture with Peter and MJ kissing in their wedding and that great book in Mephisto's grasp is a part of Peter and MJ's soul, their unconditional love they had for each other before they sold it to the devil in exchange for the life of Aunt May. The Living Tribunal appears as it was asked by the One Above All to be the overseer of this trial. The Tribunal dictates that the Trial of the Spider is now in session. Peter and MJ are guilty of acting against God by accepting the Devil's bargain BUT the One Above All has spoken in their defense. The purpose of the trial is to decide whether Peter and MJ's "unconditional love" serves the greater good or if the greater good benefits from their break up (if you think about it this way, TOAA is the will of the fans and Mephisto is the will of Quesada and the marriage haters). These are the facts: Mephisto has tricked two children of God into committing sin by surrendering part of their souls in exchange for life for Aunt May. Regardless of intention, a sin is a sin. Because of this Mephisto has ascertained control over these souls but the One Above All has spoken in their defense because their love is a shining example of the One Above All's power. For the truth of worth to come to light, the Living Tribunal has Peter and MJ go through separate experiences that will show them the truth and determine whether they themselves believe that their union benefits the greater goof or not.

Peter's Experience: in Peter's experience, he is taken through the defining moments of his life (spider bite, Ben and Gwen's death). In here the One Above All states that everything Peter has gone through has served to shape Peter into the greatest champion of good, a beacon of light and example for others to follow. Mephisto on the other hand states that if there was no Spider Man, that Ben and Gwen wouldn't have died. Spider Man's mere existence has caused chaos and turmoil in innocent lives. Peter is affected by this but the One Above All shows all the lives that have been saved because of it. Peter then goes on to experience the beginning of the past that was forgotten when he goes on to marry MJ. In here Mephisto advocates that Peter and MJ's union has hampered the greater goof by serving as a distraction for Peter whereas the One Above All advocates that Peter and MJ's union is proof of the power of love and perseverance. Mephisto preys on Peter's guilt while the One Above All amplifies Peter's heart. Peter comes to the realization that despite the pain and death, the love of him and MJ has served to save him from his despair and as an example to all that wish to be good.

MJ's Experience: in MJ's experience, she is taken back to her time with her family and all the struggles she faced before meeting Peter. Mephisto preys on MJ's selfishness throughout that experience. MJ then experiences other defining moments of her life such as discovering Peter is Spider Man, meeting Peter and her constant interaction with Peter. Mephisto accuses her that if she hadn't pushed Gwen into Peter's heart that she would have been spared from her fate. A constant in her experience was how she always tended to run away from her problems. Mephisto states that if she'd continued to be selfish and kept running then the world would have been spared from the negative effects of her union with Peter. The One Above All interferes and brings MJ to her wedding day. MJ experiences her boundless joy in that moment when she tied the knot with Peter and then goes through the happy moments in their marriage. Mephisto emphasized MJ' struggles by being Spider Man's wife such as when she started smoking, when she was a target of Peter's enemies and the neglect she felt from Peter because of Spider Man. If she had not been with Peter, then Spider Man would've operated without impediment and serve the greater good. When MJ prepares to admit this the One Above All lets MJ know that her union to Peter has served as his primary motivation and his greatest pillar of support which has made Spider Man into the greatest hero he could possibly be. Like Peter, MJ also realizes that despite the pain and struggle, being with Peter has changed her into the very best version of herself and that together they are both the greatest versions of themselves.

May's Experience: after Peter and MJ were taken to their separate experiences, Mephisto accuses May of being the cause of sin and brings her into the trial (Mephisto in desperation brings a new element to the trial after his failures with Peter and MJ). May is shown all the instances where her life has become an obstacle and infringement to Peter's growth and ultimate destiny. While she is a victim she is also a "causality". Because of her Peter has been cursed by the burden of debt as well as the power and responsibility dilemma that drove Peter to commit a heinous sin. Because of her Peter and MJ made a deal with Mephisto. The truth is that May should have died long ago. May finds clarity in this and admits to Mephisto's accusation. Peter has a great destiny and is an invaluable part of the greater good and May clearly sees that she's holding Peter back. That she is an anchor that keeps Peter adrift and unfulfilled. Her role in Peter's life has already been fulfilled. She has shaped Peter into the greatest hero in the world.

Interlude: Peter and MJ return to the distinct setting, let’s call it the Fate Court, no longer being plagued by Mephisto's influence. However, they return to see that May has been brought into the fold and May confesses that it is indeed true that she is an obstacle for Peter and MJ. Whereas Peter and MJ persevered May did not. Both Peter and MJ speak in her defense stating that her existence and her wisdom has benefited both Peter and MJ and thus the greater good. May however is certain in her guilt especially since she was the reason why Peter and MJ sold their souls, because of her. Because of her, Peter developed an obsessive-compulsive desire to keep her alive and planted in him the willingness to sacrifice everything for her including his wife and his future. May requests that Peter and MJ be shown their future, all their futures where she dies and the two see each other together, happy and with a family (RYV and MC2 among others). The thing they all have in common is that May is dead.

The Final Experience: Peter, MJ and May are taken to the moment where it all went wrong, they are taken to One More Day. The three of them experience everything that led up to that moment, the Civil War, Peter's unmasking, the assassination attempts and finally the deal itself. It’s clearly shown that Peter was hesitant to reveal his identity but because May convinced him to do so, it led to the events of One More Day. If May hadn't convinced Peter to reveal his identity, then none of it would have happened. If May had died when the bullet hit her or if Peter had decided to let her go then the deal would never have been struck. Finally, it is revealed that May's existence is an obstacle for the birth of Peter and MJ's daughter. May needs to die for Peter's daughter to be born. May and Annie share the same places in existence and if May doesn't go then Annie will never come to be. Peter, MJ and May assume control of themselves in the OMD experience and are asked by May to refuse the deal and let her die. When they do so, they are taken to their bright future and their wonderful family. Peter and MJ then go back and decide to go forth with the deal to experience what happened and see that their future is turned to ashes. They witness the events they remembered (OMIT) prior to this whole trial and accept the fact that because of their unwillingness to let May rest has caused all of this.

The Conclusion: The Living Tribunal singles out May Parker as the determinant factor that hampers the greater good. Mephisto's control over the book that embodies Peter and MJ's love is taken from him and Peter and MJ recover their souls. However, Peter and MJ beg the One Above All and the Living Tribunal for May's soul. Mephisto puts up a near flawless defense over his claim on May's soul but the One Above All interferes on her behalf and claims her soul instead to rest along her dead husband in peace for eternity. Mephisto then realizes that he's been tricked by this sham trial and the One Above All rebuffs him by stating "Commit trickery and you shall be tricked in return". Mephisto is banished to his domain after the Trial of the Spider concludes. Peter and MJ bid May farewell as her soul is reunited with that of Uncle Ben and move forth to the afterlife. The One Above All meets with Peter and MJ and reminds Peter of his promise to him about a happily ever after. He tells the couple that he is proud of them and that they are shining examples of the One Above All's love and power. TOAA says "And now you shall have it all" as the screen is engulfed in white.

Renew Your Vows: Peter and MJ's history is restored as it is supplanted by RYV. Peter and MJ meet their daughter Annie and together they go on home. At home Peter and MJ tell Annie the story of her birth and the events that followed the "Omission of OMD". They tell her that after Aunt May died, Peter and MJ went on the run for the next couple of months but in that time, they found out MJ was pregnant. In their journey, they came across Teresa Parker, Annie's favorite relative in this new timeline, and that she helped them through their hard times ensuring that Annie would be born without complications thanks to her government resources and contacts. After being on the run for so long, Peter, MJ, Teresa and baby Annie are encountered the New Avengers (Wolverine, Luke Cage, Ronin (Hawkeye), Spider Woman, Iron Fist and Doctor Strange). They joined up with them and with Doctor Strange's help they managed to restore Peter's secret identity and begin the process of rebuilding their lives which led to RYV2.

The End

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#5 Posted by oldwasher (1735 posts) - - Show Bio

If I had to i'd probably have it done via some kind of crossover between spiderman and ghost rider and/or Dr. Strange. After Peter finds out about the deal he tries to gather some mystical allies to help him confront Mephisto. This confrontation would likely lead to a fight between them that ends with Peter and Mary Jane undoing their original deal.

Alternate ending: Mephisto agrees to undo the deal but only if one of the heroes agrees to give up his soul in exchange for the marriage. The marriage is restored but one of the heroes stays behind in his realm (maybe ghost rider but I'm not sure). This would lead to a somewhat more bittersweet ending

Alternate alternate ending: same as the first alternate ending but they end up tricking Mephisto with some sort of fake soul which leads to a happier ending In reality I think there is endless possibilities but these are my favorites I came up with.

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#6 Posted by IceDemonKing (10009 posts) - - Show Bio

Miles morales shows up venom shocks gg

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#7 Posted by oldwasher (1735 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaycool2: .lol given how OP the venom sting has been that may be a plausible idea.

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#8 Posted by amazingfantasy (2497 posts) - - Show Bio

@jaycool2 said:

Miles morales shows up venom shocks gg

10/10. LMAO

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#9 Posted by GunsNRoses23 (237 posts) - - Show Bio

make it so it didn't happen

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#10 Posted by magnetic_eye (1739 posts) - - Show Bio

Lots of great ideas so far especially from ursaber. Not too sure about supplanting ASM with an already established RYV scenario. I would prefer to see ASM restored to before the deal with Mephisto was done. Maybe just go back to Pete and MJ married with a baby on the way. Would love to come up with an alternate solution but time forbids me from giving it serious consideration.

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#11 Posted by ursaber (10375 posts) - - Show Bio

Lots of great ideas so far especially from ursaber. Not too sure about supplanting ASM with an already established RYV scenario. I would prefer to see ASM restored to before the deal with Mephisto was done. Maybe just go back to Pete and MJ married with a baby on the way. Would love to come up with an alternate solution but time forbids me from giving it serious consideration.

I disagree. Its better to make RYV the new canon and release a satellite series that fixes the continuity and explains everything rather than just returning to ASM 543 and have them start the family that's already begun. Instead of addressing OMD I'd rather give it a greater insult, to be ignored, to never be referenced or recognized and have its effects destroyed regardless.

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#12 Posted by magnetic_eye (1739 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber said:
@magnetic_eye said:

Lots of great ideas so far especially from ursaber. Not too sure about supplanting ASM with an already established RYV scenario. I would prefer to see ASM restored to before the deal with Mephisto was done. Maybe just go back to Pete and MJ married with a baby on the way. Would love to come up with an alternate solution but time forbids me from giving it serious consideration.

I disagree. Its better to make RYV the new canon and release a satellite series that fixes the continuity and explains everything rather than just returning to ASM 543 and have them start the family that's already begun. Instead of addressing OMD I'd rather give it a greater insult, to be ignored, to never be referenced or recognized and have its effects destroyed regardless.

Doesn't going back to before the deal was done ignore OMD anyway? With all due respect how is it better making RYV the new cannon? Wouldn't you rather see ASM restored to prior the Mephisto / OMD fiasco? It's a huge task but could they go back to before Civil War?

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#13 Posted by ursaber (10375 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber said:
@magnetic_eye said:

Lots of great ideas so far especially from ursaber. Not too sure about supplanting ASM with an already established RYV scenario. I would prefer to see ASM restored to before the deal with Mephisto was done. Maybe just go back to Pete and MJ married with a baby on the way. Would love to come up with an alternate solution but time forbids me from giving it serious consideration.

I disagree. Its better to make RYV the new canon and release a satellite series that fixes the continuity and explains everything rather than just returning to ASM 543 and have them start the family that's already begun. Instead of addressing OMD I'd rather give it a greater insult, to be ignored, to never be referenced or recognized and have its effects destroyed regardless.

Doesn't going back to before the deal was done ignore OMD anyway? With all due respect how is it better making RYV the new cannon? Wouldn't you rather see ASM restored to prior the Mephisto / OMD fiasco? It's a huge task but could they go back to before Civil War?

What would be better is to have two Spider Man series. The main ASM book would be of RYV and then a satellite series that explains everything that happened between the Refusal of OMD and the beginning of RYV. This satellite series would deal with Peter and MJ on the run from Iron Man, MJ being pregnant and them getting Peter's secret identity back.

However the entire Marvel Universe will not turn back the wheels of time just for Spider Man. Case in point within the MU (Mephistoverse) Civil War and OMD happened many years ago and it would be weird and disorienting to have the main ASM book be about the past while all the others are set in the future. Perhaps go back for a 40 page first issue and then the rest in the current present.

My solution:

-OMD Retcon Story

-New Volume of Spider Man sett Post OMD Destruction story, title Amazing Spider Man Vol 5: RYV or Renewed Interest (LOL) and can be written by Gerry himself or a new writer. This series would combine the primary pivotal elements of RYV and transfer them over into Earth 616, that being the marriage, Annie, Regent and their outings as the Spider Family.

-A satellite title that can be called Sensational, Magnificent, Fantastic, Spectacular and so on. This series is a limited one and will be dedicated to organizing Spider Man's timeline after the destruction of OMD dealing with Peter and MJ after Civil War, them having Annie and how Peter got his identity back and how everything led up to RYV.

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#14 Posted by ItsaWorld (2376 posts) - - Show Bio

@solid_snake97: Ohhhhhh there is a hundread ways to do this and so many ways to emit the aroma of cashflow to the corporate heads within Marvel Comics.

@ursaber has such a great episodic tale that would entice readers to return back to the fold as they finally feel they can read spiderman again after all this time.

I myself, I have several versions this could go down, and in fact you can just enact RYV. Many suspect it's meant to be our Superman Rebirth, let it be so but flare it up so it's different. It's okay if Spidey takes elements from Supes because the two have done so for many years. Spidey got married so Supes got married, Supes died and came back and then so did Spidey, Spidey had a kid and thus supes had a kid and lets not forget how the two implement clones (but Supes seems to be done better). It just shows the two play off eachother so often and thus strikes a chord in both fanbases. This is probably why a few spidey fans have moved to the superman books in some fashion.

There's several ways to do this.

1 If you wanted to do a heavily similarity of Superman rebirth, you start off the story at the end of one of Marvel's ever popular and going too far events with MJ and Peter dying. Give them a sorrowful lovers tale as they die and reveal that they weren't even the 616 counterparts anyway. Reveal its RYV Peter and MJ. Reveal that their counterparts did a deal with Mephisto and thus Mephisto swapped the universe's peter and MJ with the 616 version. 616 Peter and MJ just went back to living a happy life where they managed to have a family. You can then say that the fantastic 4 in RYV are secretly the 616 versions but made their home in this ever expanding world because of the Parkers. They know Peter and MJ are from 616 but if Reed and Sue tell the Parkers this, it could mess with this world since the world seems to revolve around Peter and his family. They stay there to keep an eye on things and to grant their kids some social interaction with others, but when the world starts breaking and Mephisto makes an appearance, they come clean to Peter what is happening. An epic battle occurs where the spider-family manages to beat mephisto and gains an explination to everything before returning to the 616.

There Peter learns he actually now has a real choice. He can actually start a new life and never need to be spider-man. He can actually be someone else completely and let the Avengers announce he died. MJ is kinda open to this as she learns how bad her counterpart was. They recall the life they once had in the 616, filled with fear and turmoil but with joy and friends. They can cast this aside and choose to be the family they could never be. Annie on the other hand thinks its wrong to not be spider-man since so many people count on him, yet Peter is still afraid what this world would do to his daughter if they are discovered. He learned what this Carol did to the last future seeing kid she got her hands on, and worries if Annie will suffer a fate like that if not careful. Also, he does feel the urge to be spider-man yet knows there is another spider-man here, not to mention his two clones run around...couldn't they be okay without him?

Word spreads through the hero community fast as Reed returns and tells the Avengers he had brought home the real Spider-Man. Though many want Peter to dawn the suit again, others realize that they may not have the right to force such a thing on him. Some can recall how awful life had been to him and he saw his own share of hardships. Though they come to concensus that Peter had to decide for himself if he is to take back the Spider-Man mantle. After some time talking to fellow heroes, looking at the life he had in 616 and discussing with his family, Peter takes back his Spider-Man position.

2 If you don't like something so heavily influenced by SuperMan Rebirth but wanting RYV to be main Parkers, you go a different route. State that RYV is like a mirrored or dream version of 616.

Peter Parker wakes up and heads to work where he runs his own sucessful company Parker Industries, gallivants as spider-man and goes to bed...where he immediately wakes up next to the love of his life, gets breakfast ready for them and their daughter, goes to work as a fairly paid photographer before swinging through the city as Spider-Man. Every night when Peter sleeps, he wakes up in the other world and continues his life. Family Parker cannot brush off his CEO dream as just a figment and nor can CEO Peter think his dream of a family is just a fantasy...the two will quickly learn that they are not two people but one, a person who has been severed into a dreamscape. And what does that mean for the world around them? For it's not only him who has this situation, and some will use this to their advantage and their own personal gain. His wife, BlackCat and even Augustus Roman know about these wierd dreams and have come to find them more like realities. Realising they maybe severed peices of a whole, the two worlds have to learn to make ammends with one another, learn the origin of this mistake and fix what was broken...but if they do so...what will they awaken to?

3 Everyone loves talking about kids in the future. Why not do something like that, especially if you want RYV being your main plot. In the farfarfar future, Mephisto will enact a prophecy on a certain day where he is able to take hold of the human realm and make it his domain. Luckily, he is thwarted by several young heroes who make the prophecy not come to pass. Mephisto will now have to wait another million years for the stars to align and blah blah blah. But he is a devil and devils are known to be cheaters with another ace up their sleeve. Mephisto crafts a weapon that when it strikes an opponent, it erases their existence. He manages to emerge into the human realm again and uses it against the heroes who defeated him. Though they do great in battle, one is struck...the daughter of Spider-Man. Franklin Richard's hold his friend as she slowly vanishes from existance. Without her, they would never be able to beat Mephisto and thus their reality warps.

Franklin uses his powers to take whatever is left of May and hide her in her very own pocket dimension. Before the world fully changes and he forgets everything, he splits himself apart, letting a remnant of himself carry memories of this history and to go find May.

Fragment Franklin travels universe after universe in search of May but is unable to find the correct one. He decides to go searching for better sources in the past, sending him to present 616. There he learns that not only was May's existance erased, her familie's marriage was destroyed as well, leaving Peter and MJ in a strange contract with Mephisto. He meets the two and though Franklin doesn't get Peter to believe him, Spidey does offer his help to find the May he is looking for. With his assistance they find the RYV realm which holds May's essence. Epic events happen and Fragment Franklin is able to use his powers to fuse the two worlds together, restoring May back to her original self in the future and thus they defeat Mephisto once more. The adventure restores Annie into the 616 as the child from clone saga. the end

We can do this all day guys. So many of us are filled with fun concepts. Heck! These arent all i have

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#15 Posted by ursaber (10375 posts) - - Show Bio

@itsaworld:

A cool story would be about the RYV Universe facing destruction. RYV is somehow tied to 616, anchored to it and dependent upon it. The RYV dimension is beginning to cease to exist. Annie is the first to notice this thanks to her advanced spider sense. She can feel herself fading. As the universe collapses around her, Peter and MJ risk their lives to get Annie to safety. Annie finds sanctum with Madame Webb and Doctor Strange who've identified the cause of the universal collapse. They send Annie to 616 where she learns that she doesn't exist because the Peter and MJ of that world never tied the knot. With Strange and Webb's helps she manages to get in touch with Peter and MJ and explain her situation and that she is their daughter. Strange and Webb both detect that they are under demonic influence and identify its architect as Mephisto.

The five of them travel through space and time to find the root cause in OMD. Peter and MJ are made aware of the deal they made and now their daughter will cease to exist for the third time if they don't undo this. Peter and MJ made the deal to save Aunt May, therefore they have to let her die. Aunt May is also brought into the fold and meets Annie. Aunt May gladly sacrifices herself for this. However Annie begins to fade and tells them she loves them and to save her. Strange and Webb also fade but their combined might allows them to send Peter, MJ and May back to OMD to refuse the deal. Then everything gets fixed with RYV merging into 616 in regards to the Spider Family.

Kinda like the Days of Future Past X Men movie where Mystique alters the future by deciding not to kill Trask (Peter Dinklage). Peter and MJ's decision to not accept Mephisto's deal effectively saves RYV by merging it to 616 saving Annie and rewriting events to accommodate the fact that they refused Mephisto and remained married.

The End/Fin

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#16 Posted by hoicomicbro (51 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber: I just thought I'd take a look at any forums about OMD. This is really well-thought. It could actually be a great Spider-Man story imo.

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#17 Posted by ursaber (10375 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber: I just thought I'd take a look at any forums about OMD. This is really well-thought. It could actually be a great Spider-Man story imo.

Holy damn. You dug all the way to China to bring this old dinosaur back. Did you like my stories or the other ones in the thread?

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#18 Edited by hoicomicbro (51 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber: The other stories are pretty good, but I found yours to be the best (the others had great ideas too, so please don't take this as a sign that I didn't like the others' ideas!) because the story that you created isn't just out there to undo something unpopular; it works wonderfully as a storyline of its own. It digs deep into the marriage between Peter and MJ, who are a wonderful couple.

As for digging my way to the prehistoric ages, that was because I was curious to see what people would have to say about OMD, especially with regards to how they would have ended it or how they would have undone it.

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#19 Posted by ursaber (10375 posts) - - Show Bio

@hoicomicbro:

What do you think of the title, Sins Cleansed? Sure it would work better to retcon Sins Past but I named this OMD ass kicking story because I consider Peter and Mary Jane's deal with the devil to be a sin. An alternate name would have been Spider Man Reborn, Sins of the Spider or One More Chance.

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#20 Posted by hoicomicbro (51 posts) - - Show Bio

@ursaber: It's a very appropriate title because what Peter and MJ did in their deal with Mephisto was a sin indeed. Sins Cleansed is appropriate as Peter and MJ are being cleansed of what they did. One More Chance doesn't sound like a bad title either.

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#21 Posted by ZariusII (5914 posts) - - Show Bio

@hoicomicbro Interestingly enough, the term "One More Chance" was used to promote the Renew Your Vows ongoing when it started.

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#22 Posted by hoicomicbro (51 posts) - - Show Bio

@zariusii: I used to think it was going to bring back the marriage.

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#23 Posted by ursaber (10375 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by HonikerX (218 posts) - - Show Bio

What's happening here... you thought I wouldn't know, what to do... You thought I fell for you Conners, gods, think you're a creator, that you must, be good, must be what? This can't be real, she'll never be here with what you've done... "You Made them" looking at the lab, crocodiles, "you inVented, them... and the time machine that's for This? You sent them BACK?!" and accident, he says it's an accident, he did it, deprive evil of it's sense of satisfaction and now the crocodiles this torture, this carnage was NEVER! GOOD ENOUGH!!... how is this possible? and I won't, mess with a better name? "Spiderman... you're human today... we're in flux, what's happening?" "It's Conners, I know where he's gone... Wi-" "What?" "Hades he made, crocodiles,.. he's sent them back in time, your grandmother's gone, she can't be here?" "it will cost you a day.." "What?" "I'll kill him," shh, "you won't remember. I have to rewind, everything. The son you're having, or, plan to, I know the day, but think about it," "I won't be ready," not anymore, an evolving evil, it's, new? "You'll invent him one day, but the day you thought of it, and you could marry MJ, that's gone, and you won't know this, but yes, I will find him. Yes, I will kill him, and even the Gods, will never know, till the other, dies too.." "Octavius?" "You really wouldn't want to know?" "Do it, please... I'm.." "Please, Hera's bad at it? The invent? You are married to MJ, that's not something that can be, divorced, just because you forget, the magic you feel is real, now, forget.." "That didn't work..." "I know, good luck..." I'll wake up from a nightmare and it will always have been this evil out here? Well like, oh he's gunna- "Do you have a son?" "I will be a father in time.."

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#27 Edited by TheWatcherKing (18622 posts) - - Show Bio

Miles morales shows up venom shocks gg

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#28 Posted by HonikerX (218 posts) - - Show Bio

I think you have no have no idea how dangerous you are. There's a real world for this? What? Don't you dare, call me a troll.

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