Batman or Spider-Man - Who's the better hero?

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Posted by Anjales_II (1026 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman or Spider-Man - Who's the better hero?

I don't mean who's the better character or who do you like more, what I mean is who's more heroic? Who has proven his worth as a hero to his city? Who's more necessary to the salvation of his city (let's forget about the Avengers, the FF and JL for a minute)?

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#1 Posted by Master_Thief (1100 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman, let's face it a fifteen year old who lost his uncle and cares for his ill fated aunt still able to defeat evil beats batman a billion are who's able to defeat evil because he has the financial means

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#2 Posted by PaperDemon (685 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man, no question about it.

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#3 Posted by Cloakx14 (9136 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey.

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#4 Posted by linsanel_Doctor (8630 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman....

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#5 Posted by kgb725 (19216 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey

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#6 Posted by Petey_is_Spidey (11674 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman.

He doesn't let innocent people die due to his one "moral code".

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#7 Posted by kgb725 (19216 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman has nothing on Spidey. Spidey is just as smart just as selfless and he keeps being spidey even when he doesnt have the time , money or physical well being to do it. Bruce may have all the same qualities but there's a reason people love Spiderman in NY and in the superhero community. And he inspires people to do great things instead of putting the fear of god in them

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#8 Posted by senglord (2773 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman.

He doesn't let innocent people die due to his one "moral code".

Green Goblin, Carnage, Lizard, and a few dozen other villains would disagree with innocents not dying because Spiderman did not kill them.

@kgb725 said:

Batman has nothing on Spidey. Spidey is just as smart just as selfless and he keeps being spidey even when he doesnt have the time , money or physical well being to do it. Bruce may have all the same qualities but there's a reason people love Spiderman in NY and in the superhero community. And he inspires people to do great things instead of putting the fear of god in them

Bruce Wayne has continued being batman when he was thrown through time with no memory of who he was.

Batman fights on through immense pain in every other story arc, and he does not have a healing factor to help him through it. You may as well say that Wolverine can fight through injuries that would kill Spiderman or Batman a dozen times, so he must be a better hero.

The superheroes of Batman Inc. and the Teen Titans and the Pre 52 Outsiders are clear counters to the lack of inspiration. Since when did Batman terrorize the innocent? This post is both downplaying Batman's talents and defining characteristics and insulting people who bother to read the comics themselves.

Spiderman is the better hero because he believes that most people are good. Batman see the world as being mostly evil with the good in need of protection and inspiration. Batman does inspire a small section of people in Gotham, but the rest see him as being too other to actually love. Even most fans of the best written versions of Batman feel little direct warmth with Batman or Bruce Wayne. Spiderman is more fun because he actually cares about the people he beats up. Batman just makes sure that they live to go to trial.

one wants to be liked and loved, the other just wants to get results and respect.

I honestly feel that Batman is the better hero in terms of results given conditions. Spiderman would have gone insane trying to work with Gotham's broken justice system and systemic institutional corruption.

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#9 Posted by PunyParker (15717 posts) - - Show Bio

WHat the hell with these threads?!.....this is a SPIDER-MAN forum.....move this to the Gen.Discussion one......

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#10 Posted by VeganDiet (1174 posts) - - Show Bio

@senglord said:

I honestly feel that Batman is the better hero in terms of results given conditions. Spiderman would have gone insane trying to work with Gotham's broken justice system and systemic institutional corruption.

I severely doubt this.

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#11 Posted by magnetic_eye (1739 posts) - - Show Bio

I've been reading Spider-Man far longer but I can't really pick who the better hero is.

They're both unique in their own way, but right now, IMO, I could definitely pick the better book.

I'm enjoying "Batman" & "Detective Comics" immensely better than "ASM". The Batman books are light years ahead in terms of good quality mature storytelling and artwork.

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#16 Posted by senglord (2773 posts) - - Show Bio

@vegandiet: Spiderman does not need to deal with a system that will flat out release hardened killers onto the street to make a point. That is a regular occurrence in Gotham.

The police in Marvel New York do not conceal evidence from police on cop killings.

Spiderman does not need to deal with mass break outs of prisons in every other story arc, which would make an average stay for a prisoner about two weeks comic book time.

Spider-man's biggest enemies are the criminals that try to kill him and innocent people in his city. Batman's biggest enemies are people who manipulate the system to keep violent mass murderers on the street as a distraction for organized crime to continue doing business.

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#17 Posted by XxEdward_KenwayXx (672 posts) - - Show Bio

@master_thief: a fifteen year old with superpowers. With one of the most over powered ones too(spider sense).

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#18 Posted by TheMetalGearZero (1368 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man... Batman's too grim to become a hero in my book.

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#19 Posted by senglord (2773 posts) - - Show Bio

@themetalgearzero: Being a hero is about what you do, not how you look. Both sacrifice their own well being to help others. Both are so dedicated to their cause that they are pretty much insane. Both could do so much more if they were a little more selfish and practical.

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#20 Posted by TheMetalGearZero (1368 posts) - - Show Bio

@senglord said:

@themetalgearzero: Being a hero is about what you do, not how you look. Both sacrifice their own well being to help others. Both are so dedicated to their cause that they are pretty much insane. Both could do so much more if they were a little more selfish and practical.

Yes, but I'm not really sure Bats is the kind of hero who would save a kid from being bullied in the streets or something like that. Spider-Man IS that sort of hero. Sorry if I'm wrong with this, because I've read A TON of Spidey comics and not much of Bats, so I'm not really knowledgeable on Batman.

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#21 Posted by Thor_Parker82 (16369 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man

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#22 Posted by VeganDiet (1174 posts) - - Show Bio

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@vegandiet: Spiderman does not need to deal with a system that will flat out release hardened killers onto the street to make a point. That is a regular occurrence in Gotham.

The police in Marvel New York do not conceal evidence from police on cop killings.

Spiderman does not need to deal with mass break outs of prisons in every other story arc, which would make an average stay for a prisoner about two weeks comic book time.

Spider-man's biggest enemies are the criminals that try to kill him and innocent people in his city. Batman's biggest enemies are people who manipulate the system to keep violent mass murderers on the street as a distraction for organized crime to continue doing business.

It's true he doesn't have to deal with such a thing on a regular basis, but I highly doubt such a thing would really be so much worse for him to deal with than what he already does. And he does frequently deal with hardened killers being released back onto the streets. He's dealt with prison breakouts fairly often. He's dealt with a corrupt system that takes the side of organized crime. I assume you've heard of Kingpin, The Maggia, Hammerhead, and Mister Negative. All people who are capable of manipulating the system, while being formidable super villains at the same time.

So Spider-man deals with pretty much exactly what you've said, in addition to the vastly super powered threats, very often.

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#23 Posted by linsanel_Doctor (8630 posts) - - Show Bio
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#24 Posted by linsanel_Doctor (8630 posts) - - Show Bio

@JetiiMitra: I just have to read the comments below in the link to know how awesome Batman is.

Batman is everywhere, and his comics sell

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#25 Posted by VeganDiet (1174 posts) - - Show Bio

@senglord said:

@vegandiet: Spiderman does not need to deal with a system that will flat out release hardened killers onto the street to make a point. That is a regular occurrence in Gotham.

The police in Marvel New York do not conceal evidence from police on cop killings.

Spiderman does not need to deal with mass break outs of prisons in every other story arc, which would make an average stay for a prisoner about two weeks comic book time.

Spider-man's biggest enemies are the criminals that try to kill him and innocent people in his city. Batman's biggest enemies are people who manipulate the system to keep violent mass murderers on the street as a distraction for organized crime to continue doing business.

It's true he doesn't have to deal with such a thing on a regular basis, but I highly doubt such a thing would really be so much worse for him to deal with than what he already does. And he does frequently deal with hardened killers being released back onto the streets. He's dealt with prison breakouts fairly often. He's dealt with a corrupt system that takes the side of organized crime. I assume you've heard of Kingpin, The Maggia, Hammerhead, and Mister Negative. All people who are capable of manipulating the system, while being formidable super villains at the same time.

So Spider-man deals with pretty much exactly what you've said, in addition to the vastly super powered threats, very often.

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#26 Posted by gdkeen (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-man

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#27 Posted by AmazingSpiderman15 (1929 posts) - - Show Bio

spider - man

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#28 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (18984 posts) - - Show Bio

@JetiiMitra: I just have to read the comments below in the link to know how awesome Batman is.

Batman is everywhere, and his comics sell

So does Micheal Bay.

So i must believe he is awesome and the best movie director right now.

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#29 Edited by senglord (2773 posts) - - Show Bio

@vegandiet: Batman deals with superhuman threats on a regular basis as well, though they are not on the same scale of lethality as Spider-man's powered rogues. He has also dealt with international criminal organizations like the Black Hand, league of assassins, league of shadows, supernatural threats, global gangs and the like. Pre 52 2000s was more global than any time since the Raa's arcs of the 1970s.

Not to say that Batman's enemies have not devised ways to kill hundreds of thousands of people, but their methods require large amounts of resources and time. This makes it more easily thwarted by a very skilled detective. Spider-man's enemies threaten the city as a whole through their powers like Electro, or through their plans like GG and Hydra. Planners goals are mostly the same for both characters.

P.S. It is a bit misleading to compare the disfunction of marvel NYC and DC Gotham

@themetalgearzero: Batman as Batman and as Bruce Wayne has stepped up to defend people that are being attacked. That was part of the character's appeal. That his actions have a basis in civic duty.

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#30 Posted by MiniSaladFresh (521 posts) - - Show Bio

Before I answer this question I want to point out that as a DC/Batman fan my answer is completely unbiased.

Spider-Man is a far better hero by my definition of the word. Peter does what he does because it's the right thing to do, and because he believes that with his powers he has an obligation to use them for the good of the people.

Batman does what he does mostly because he can't get over his parents' death and is now taking revenge on every criminal in the city. Unlike Spider-Man he doesn't do it for the good of the city, he does it because of his own personal vendetta. While that does make for a fascinating read it's not particularly heroic.

I'm not saying that Batman's not heroic at all, he is, but he doesn't really compare to Spider-Man in the heroism department if you ask me.

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#31 Edited by DeathpooltheT1000 (18984 posts) - - Show Bio

@minisaladfresh said:

Before I answer this question I want to point out that as a DC/Batman fan my answer is completely unbiased.

Spider-Man is a far better hero by my definition of the word. Peter does what he does because it's the right thing to do, and because he believes that with his powers he has an obligation to use them for the good of the people.

Batman does what he does mostly because he can't get over his parents' death and is now taking revenge on every criminal in the city. Unlike Spider-Man he doesn't do it for the good of the city, he does it because of his own personal vendetta. While that does make for a fascinating read it's not particularly heroic.

I'm not saying that Batman's not heroic at all, he is, but he doesn't really compare to Spider-Man in the heroism department if you ask me.

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And that is why i dont like current Batman writing, it fails to make Batman heroic anymore.

They want so hard to make Batman the ultra harcore badadd that is the best at everything, he isnt that heroic anymore.

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#32 Posted by Avenging-X-Bolt (18058 posts) - - Show Bio

Bats and Spidey are equals but they both excel in certain areas that others dont.

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#33 Posted by Spidey_Jackson (6359 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman. No contest.

Batman is vengeance.

Spiderman is justice.

Beata

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#34 Edited by Jimishim12 (1554 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman is a better protector. Spidey is a better role model

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#35 Edited by angelalfonso (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

@spidey_jackson: spidey is pain, regret and responsibility

and yes he is a better hero

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#36 Posted by Spidey_Jackson (6359 posts) - - Show Bio

@angelalfonso: Yeah. Justice just sounded cooler to say. Lawl.

Beata

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#37 Posted by Bezza (5019 posts) - - Show Bio

Interestingly, they did the same poll on the Batman Forum and Spiderman still won!

Seems even some Batman fans concede Spidey is the better hero.

They are both brilliant characters and yes, the Batman comics are currently another league to the Spiderman ones and I think most "top 10" graphic novel polls would have more Batman books than spiderman ones in them.

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#38 Edited by devosles (6 posts) - - Show Bio

What defines a hero? Do I think that Spiderman is generally more liked in his community? Duh.

I think that Batman is the better hero overall since he's more valuable to the Justice League then most of it's members, while Spiderman was lucky enough to be part of the Avengers B team. Batman being significantly smarter than Spiderman in every category just adds to how effective he is in protecting DC Universe than Spiderman for Marvel.

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#39 Edited by DeathpooltheT1000 (18984 posts) - - Show Bio

@devosles said:

What defines a hero? Do I think that Spiderman is generally more liked in his community? Duh.

I think that Batman is the better hero overall since he's more valuable to the Justice League then most of it's members, while Spiderman was lucky enough to be part of the Avengers B team. Batman being significantly smarter than Spiderman in every category just adds to how effective he is in protecting DC Universe than Spiderman for Marvel.

Did i hear PIS!!!!

Fanboy force dont make you a better heroe, it does the contrary.

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#40 Posted by NorrinBoltagonPrime21 (6868 posts) - - Show Bio

Its really just anybody's opinion, there's no way to prove or justify it.

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#41 Posted by Jimishim12 (1554 posts) - - Show Bio

IMO even if I don'tlike Batman that much, him and Spidey areequals in altruistic service to the innocent and masses against evil and corruption. Batman seems more alpha because he's wealthy and yet he leads and commands future investments in young children to carry on his legacy and work. I mean Dick is already gonna be the next best thing not only for gotham but the entire DC pantheon of heroes as the leader. Spider-Man in comparison only has his clones, Anya, and probably Alpha and who knows how that guy will end up. Spider-Man also has to defer to other heroes instead of being a leader amongst men and is constantly in over his head instead of control like Batman, but Spidey does have more investments in saving individuals and changing there lifes personally like Reptil, Franklin Richards, Deadpool(sorta) and much more.

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#42 Posted by oskese (1 posts) - - Show Bio

@devosles said:

What defines a hero? Do I think that Spiderman is generally more liked in his community? Duh.

I think that Batman is the better hero overall since he's more valuable to the Justice League then most of it's members, while Spiderman was lucky enough to be part of the Avengers B team. Batman being significantly smarter than Spiderman in every category just adds to how effective he is in protecting DC Universe than Spiderman for Marvel.

Did i hear PIS!!!!

Fanboy force dont make you a better heroe, it does the contrary.

It isn't PIS, Batman is a valuable member of the Justice League mainly because of his intellect, not because he can fist fight Superman level characters.

Not too smart are you? Then again you're named after one of the worst characters in comics so I'm hardly surprised

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#43 Posted by DeathpooltheT1000 (18984 posts) - - Show Bio

@oskese said:

@deathpoolthet1000 said:

@devosles said:

What defines a hero? Do I think that Spiderman is generally more liked in his community? Duh.

I think that Batman is the better hero overall since he's more valuable to the Justice League then most of it's members, while Spiderman was lucky enough to be part of the Avengers B team. Batman being significantly smarter than Spiderman in every category just adds to how effective he is in protecting DC Universe than Spiderman for Marvel.

Did i hear PIS!!!!

Fanboy force dont make you a better heroe, it does the contrary.

It isn't PIS, Batman is a valuable member of the Justice League mainly because of his intellect, not because he can fist fight Superman level characters.

Not too smart are you? Then again you're named after one of the worst characters in comics so I'm hardly surprised

Hahahaha obvious troll its obvious.

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#44 Edited by Homifred (361 posts) - - Show Bio

Arguments for Spider-man:

Spider-man attempts to save everyone, even the criminals unless one's existence is catastrophic to his own life (Morlun).

Batman, however, is more than willing to kill a crook as he has proven to do several times (junkyards anyone?) though, suspiciously, the Joker still lives (joking).

Not only does Spider-man use his intellect to defeat criminals but he also uses his genius to benefit mankind.

Though Batman also betters the living of mankind through Wade Industries, miraculous inventions such as his teleporter are withheld from the populace.

Spider-man never gives up.

Batman has a history of mental breakdowns (Pre-52).

Spider-man's powers make him more efficient to an extent.

Batman's mortality has made him more vulnerable to supervillains.

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#45 Posted by Anzid (17 posts) - - Show Bio

Batman, definitely. The only reason he exists is for the good of Gotham. He doesn't care if Gotham City doesn't want him but he thinks that it needs him.

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#46 Posted by Kanen (265 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman. The people of Gotham are greatful to have batman around because their city was always a mess. The only people who hate batman are crooks and crooked cops. With spiderman you have a city where most cops hate him or at least always raise a gun at him. Not mention the daily bugle constantly publishing lies about him and even when his family or friends hate him because of something spiderman was responsible for he still continues to be spiderman and is always their to save them

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#47 Posted by donmeca2020 (1420 posts) - - Show Bio

This is a tough one These guys are both my FAVORITES from the big 2.... they both will do what they have to save the city. both would risk their own lives to save someone from dieing. Bats sometimes can take things personal when it comes to his baddies, spidey doesn't like baddies but try to always be a funny with them prior to whipping their asses...

It's definitely a toss up but i think their about even in my book.

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#48 Posted by HollowMode (56 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey no doubt

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#49 Posted by Manwhohaseverything (3818 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh..I always think of Batman as more of an "anti-hero"

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#50 Posted by Dalwih (66 posts) - - Show Bio

I gotta go with Spider-Man. They both beat the baddies, stop bank robberies, have dealt with Organized crime on multiple occasions, psychopaths, blah blah blah. But Spider-Man is more of a friend and inspiration to the people, so much to the point that he's seen as the heart of New York. Spider-Man is the kind of hero who would save a kid from bullies, help an arguing married couple come to terms, he's there for the people and spreads a kind of warmth Batman doesn't.

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