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Qite franky, it didn't suck as much as I thought it would, but no way is it worth the $3.99 cover price. Copiel's artwork kicked major ass, which was awesome!
I liked the conversation with the two of you guys...
It reads like a typical first issue. It didn't help that out of the 22 pages, 6 were re-printed including showing how Norman and Loki cooked up a reason to invade Asgard. Never mind the battle we never see. I'm a little disappointed for $4.
Three more issues still have me curious, which Avenger dies in issue #2?
I really like the duel review. It reminds me of the discussion that was done for Blackest Night. Though, I thought Babs was a little hard to hear at times.
I find the literal check list a bit presumptuous. They even have little boxes next to each title. As if they expect someone to actually buy every single title and check them off with that list.
I have a theory about why Osborn would think it's a good idea to attack Asgard, but I want to avoid some overcomplicated analysis. Long story short. I think that Osborn believes that the American people need to be reminded how much they need him. He sees that they need a 'reminder'. If a lot of people have to die. He thinks that is an 'acceptable loss' for what he sees as the greater good. At least the greater good as a psychopath sees it. Think that sounds too off base?
Hopefully they pull out some crazy sh-t in the next issue, because that's the only way I'm going to buy it. Insane predictability and sloppy continuity should not wear a $4 price tag. How you give this a 4/5 is beyond me, especially considering how confused you both are during your own review of the issue.
" Was G-Man drinking bourbon in that mug? I'm pretty sure he's drunk. I've seen drunk podcasts and this looks a lot like a drunk podcast. "It's begging to be problem isn't it?
"I think that Osborn believes that the American people need to be reminded how much they need him. He sees that they need a 'reminder'. If a lot of people have to die. He thinks that is an 'acceptable loss' for what he sees as the greater good. At least the greater good as a psychopath sees it. Think that sounds too off base? "No, I think it sounds allegorical.
The only thing I didn't like was the Hulk preview, I like the book don't get me wrong, it just felt like it souldn't of been here.
" @Grendel said:paying attention pays. Loki says that they disapeared, leaving Vols alone in a massively decimated field. the cameras are all poined twords the game, and all the people who may have been looking up in that direction are dead." " And why did the same d-listers from the Hood posse who incited the Volstagg incident (which was captured on film), later show up to help out Osborn on camera?' " Because it’s a stupid, stupid comic." "I thought I was the only one who noticed that. "
Everything that happened in this issue has been building for awhile. I felt like it was everything I wanted, we had a full size story with TONS of relevant bonus stuff like the transcripts which really did help explain things. Personally it's my fav first issue to an event since CW, as long as it doesn't have classic Miller Bull Crap in it, I'm digging it....And the chick is a concubine which is typical of the Norse.
Norm is crazy so doing something like this.......is normal for him.
Hulk shouldn't even be brought up, it's never in line with anything. Lol that book makes little since ever
The iron man stuff will be explained, you need to remember everything from the next and last 2 books is taking place in like 1 day, from what I understand Iron Man book 1 of this arc is taking place right before this, but you're right it's kinda funky gman
I talked to Tom not long ago and Gman don;t worry, the line wide story stuff will be over in just a few months.
I loved it, would have given it a 5 if it had another few pages. but as it was 4.5, good read, had me flipping through pages faster then any other book for a loooong time
I hope this is the Last EVENT... and ahhh... Norman does have a plan... u cant find out on the 1st issue... tho... it will be slowly shown to us...
i think
i like how BABS started gettin' all existential at the end of this! ;)
on a serious note, instead of hatin' on Marvel & DC for trying to streamline their universes into a more organic & fluid web of creativity, shouldn't we just read & revel in the aspects we appreciate? SURE, event after event after EVENT may seem like overkill at times... & they are MOST certainly taxin' our collective coin cases... BUT, no one is holding any hellfire imbued sawed-off shotguns to your heads forcing u to by the comics! pick up what u need. drop what u cant carry. the name of the game is survival & these are our rations people!!!
ahem, that being said, i have a feeling most fans would miss these events if comics went back to existing in their own little worlds with stories that ultimately go nowhere fast... maybe u will have an opportunity to test this notion soon enough... somehow, i doubt it though... :)
I agree. There are too many event driven books lately. It's sort of making comic reading... harder? I dunno. Maybe that doesn't make any sense, but I feel like if you miss out on anything anymore then you miss a big chunk of information.
As for this book, I wasn't crazy about the art. You guys said that you liked it, which is valid, but it was, in my opinion, just okay. I guess I'm spoiled or something, too used to Detective Comics or whatever. But anyway, the art was fine, not great, but just fine.
Norman's pretty wild. I like seeing him go out and just being an idiot with stuff. I think Marvel's been making him too "smart" lately, and he really isn't that smart. I mean, yeah, he is a genious and stuff but frankly, he's crazy now so he's not smart anymore. He should be more crazy... less smart, and I think that's what we get here.
But like I said, events are not my favorite things. Don't get me wrong. Civil War was awsome. Secret Invasion, well that was meh'. Dark Reign was nice, just because it had a lot of potential and unlike some of the other events, I think the writers used that potential really well. But I really just want a good self contained story. I don't care what happens in the greater Marvel Universe if I can just get a solid story. That's what makes books like Captain America so good (well, with the exception of the recent "Reborn" issues, which have a lot to do with Dark Reign). Ed Brubaker's Captain America is very self contained, usually not relying on the events in the greater Marvel Universe to tell the story.
That's just my opinion. Oh and one more thing, I almost forgot! There should be more Thor! Afterall, this is a book about Asgardians so where is Thor?
"I think that Osborn believes that the American people need to be reminded how much they need him. He sees that they need a 'reminder'. If a lot of people have to die. He thinks that is an 'acceptable loss' for what he sees as the greater good. At least the greater good as a psychopath sees it. Think that sounds too off base? "
So does this mean you two will team-up for the beginning of every major event, I hope thats what it means.
I've been waiting for this review in like...forever LOL XD. Thanks for another AWESOME Dule review Babs and G-man ^_^
What does this have to do with Osborn using D-listers to take down Thor, instead of say... I don't know, the Avengers he brought with him? Thor one-shots the Sentry, and then Osborn and the U-Foes take out Thor. The U-Foes aren't even part of The Hood's outfit. They are an Initiative team. It's piss-poor writing."paying attention pays. Loki says that they disapeared, leaving Vols alone in a massively decimated field. the cameras are all poined twords the game, and all the people who may have been looking up in that direction are dead."
This issue rooted my hatred of Sentry.... Oh and regrading how Steve is dressed. I think he was just in that outfit so people could recognize him. Oliver Coipel's Steve doesn't "reek" Steve Rogers, you know?
I like this dual review.... Too I haven't read Siege because I have to literally go to another country to get my comics... and I am not going to get to go to the Comic store until Monday....
So... I will give my input until Monday!
Still great REVIEW... at least you didn't make me not buy Siege.. like how G-Man did on Jackpot!
Only problem I had with this issue was it felt very rushed. We went from the 'incident' to immediately launching the attack on Asgard and it all happened in the space of a few pages. For something as big as launching an attack on what is essentially the home of an entire pantheon of Norse Gods and deity figures, you'd think a little more planning or suspense and build up would have occurred.
Other than the odd issue with the mics and sound dropping and raising, this was a great video. Would be good to see more videos with the pair of you on the couch discussing comics. Just sort out the microphones so you both have equal levels of clear voice instead of it going up and down a little :)
" @Grim said:
What does this have to do with Osborn using D-listers to take down Thor, instead of say... I don't know, the Avengers he brought with him? Thor one-shots the Sentry, and then Osborn and the U-Foes take out Thor. The U-Foes aren't even part of The Hood's outfit. They are an Initiative team. It's piss-poor writing. ""paying attention pays. Loki says that they disapeared, leaving Vols alone in a massively decimated field. the cameras are all poined twords the game, and all the people who may have been looking up in that direction are dead."
They don't. Unless you are arguing that each member of the U-Foes is almost as powerful as the Sentry (possibly more powerful). Volstagg deflected their combined attacks in the beginning of the book without being scathed. The same people then take out Thor? Yeah, that's just bad writing." apparently the U-Foes have the power to blow the hell out of Thor."
No, they aren't. They are simply reasonable. If you read Siege #1, you'll see Bullseye explain why they don't want to assault Asgard."And if you notice, the Avenger's themselves are all pussies."
You don't have to tell me anything, I have already identified this as a continuity error." as for them not being in Hood's Outfit, idk what to tell you. "
" @Korg: man, you guys always call me judgmental"This has simply never happened.
" @Korg: Bullseye didnt explain much of anything. He said he didnt wana, NOrman said they would be square, and he stopped talking. "You should read the transcript in the back of the issue.
15 pages of comic, off-panel fights, and the destruction of Soldier Field. You know, a number of Chicago fans thanked Bendis for putting the team out of their misery. Haha! Osborn is doomed to fail, and messing with Asgard is not going to end pretty.
I feel the same way Babs does.I feel like I already know what's going to happen from having read this.
I enjoyed it, can't really say anything better that hasn't already been said above, Though i must say that i did feel that the whole retaliation did seem to kick off way to fast.
" @Korg said:It still defies logic. They were purposely chosen to incite Volstagg because they were known criminals." @Grendel said:paying attention pays. Loki says that they disapeared, leaving Vols alone in a massively decimated field. the cameras are all poined twords the game, and all the people who may have been looking up in that direction are dead. this was actually epic to me. I loved seeing Thor smash in like that. Im just pissed that they really went out of their way to avoid the Sentry/Thor fight. "" " And why did the same d-listers from the Hood posse who incited the Volstagg incident (which was captured on film), later show up to help out Osborn on camera?' " Because it’s a stupid, stupid comic." "I thought I was the only one who noticed that. "
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