@lvenger: I really don't see why they have a problem with more than one universe. It's not difficult for the fans to get either old or new. IMO I think they're doing it more for them than us.

Trouble is sales are still good, no matter what they do to the character or have that character do to others sales are good, which means they can keep right on laughing at any complaints that they see on the net.

That's what DC and Marvel have succumbed to nowadays, decisions and changes made for their benefit, not the fans and consumers who buy their products. Getting rid of the multiverse and ignoring continuity is lazy and unimaginative if I'm honest.

OMD is one the most badly written comics ever.

Okay so Peter is married. This cannot be the main focus of the book. Who reads a comic book about people arguing over the right way to install a toilet paper roll? If it's not the main focus then why try to make that the selling point?

Here's what Slott had to say

“This is the Pete & MJ you knew and loved in late 80’s and early 90’s of [AMAZING SPIDER-MAN],” Slott asserts. “Well, if they’d had a baby. And if Venom and all of Spidey's greatest enemies were—Ah. Sorry. Got ahead of myself there for a second. Just forget I said that.”

The biggest change of all, of course, comes from the reality of Peter and Mary Jane’s new role: parents. For Peter in particular, it represents a tremendous challenging of his values.

“[He’s a] father,” Slott explains. “Husband. Hero. In that order. With great power must also come great responsibility. But what happens when you have the greatest responsibility of them all? Having a great power is something you have to share with the world. But what if two people become your whole world? What then?”

http://marvel.com/news/comics/24269/secret_wars_correspondence_renew_your_vows

@lvenger: Secret Wars will reboot him again....

But what if Peter gets rebooted back to puberty to coincide with the Civil War film?

Ultimate Peter is alive and well.....

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@mav: i just watched about 30mins of that. it certainly was interesting. now i know where all of the spidey fans get their "opinion" that peter is written like a child and that that is inherently flawed.

With Marvel Studios aiming for a younger Spider-Man, wouldn't post-Secret Wars just bring him back to high school?

Spider-man is a character DEFINED by his life as Peter Parker. He was one of the first characters to have a real, 3 dimensional life tied to his night time trips as a masked vigilante. For spider-fans, his personal life has ALWAYS been as important as that of his masked alter ego. Hell, the Ditko Sr years were pretty much 60%romance novel, 40% superheroics. His well established personal life and "soap lite" stories help give the action part of his novel much more meaning, especially when we care so much about the character.

my theory is that marvel will bring Miles into the main universe and have 2 separate main stream spider series, one involving miles as a teen spider-man and one with peter and his familial role.

I mean that wouldn't Marvel just reboot Peter as a teenager in high school, because that is what they are probably going with in the movies. Post-secret wars gives them a chance to bend over for the movies.

i could go with that as long as he doesn't go back to being broke. parker really had grown before that retcon. he had new powers and wasn't a charlie brown type loser. if he goes back to that, i might just drop the series all together.

One More Day was silly. What always irked me about Spider-man is that they tend to torture the people around him to make him interesting (Gwen, May, Mary Jane). So, rather than giving her dignity, they tossed Mary Jane out coldly and replaced her with a silly fit-for-vegas superheroine that was teased as being her (& ended up not being, then disappearing). It was just shameful. Mary Jane was never just "the girlfriend", she was a good character and they treated her like an inconvenience.

Nice to see her and Gwen are legitimized now rather than being used as devices. Remember Sins Past? EVEN WORSE.

I agree, Gwen deserved better than Sins Past. To be fair, JMS wanted to undo that (in a scenario very much like the one people theorize will happen with Secret Wars...with everyone back to at least college level), but editorial were stubborn about it. Hell even Slott says the marriage remains very much a "locked toybox" at Marvel and it takes events like this to break it open. This indicates they really are not going to commit to a full-on return of the marriage...at least not yet. Bendis said in an interview with CBR yesterday a lot of things they're going with in SW will have legs depending strongly on fan demand. At best, Renew Your Vows will "test the waters" for a married family man Peter and if it sells well, then when they return to 616 they'll probably think about addressing and undoing OMD, or make Peter and MJ at least AWARE they were once married and then give us emotional closure.

During Civil War, did'nt the one-above-all even show Peter that he'd end up with MJ and have kids anyway? Presuming "all stories still count" with or without the marriage, that far-off future will still come to pass.

The newspaper comics will probably keep them married regardless anyway

Im excited for it...MJ has become as big apart of Spiderman as much as peter...I like to get a chance to see how a hero works out fighting crime and keeping a family life in correlation of eachother...it humanizes the character, which i feel peter is the biggest fit for this type of situation...

Should be canon...

@captainmarvel4ever No, the fans never wanted them broken up, and they never wanted Peter to go back to being a high-schooler who never takes responsibility for anything. It's just sh*tty idiot hack writers like Joe Quesada who wanted that. The fans wanted Peter to grow up as a character and settle down, not go BACKWARD! If writers wanted a Peter Parker who was single, that's what they had BEN REILLY for! Honestly, people like Joe Quesada and anyone who agrees with the deal with Mephisto deserves to be forced out of the comic industry and never allowed to work there. One More Day completely goes against what Spider-man's about and every single character was completely Out of Character in it. Another reason the story was retarded? Peter went to every single powerful person (Science-wise or Magic-wise) in the Marvel Universe, and the story claimed not a single one of them could treat and heal something as simple as a bullet wound? What complete bullsh*t, and anyone who defends this story is a hack moron.