I think that it just shows Wanda's not as all-powerful as she thought. There will be an explanation eventually.
Something I'd like to see is Apocalypse trying to recruit her as a Horeseman. With three words, she did what Apocalypse had been trying to do for years - winnowed the mutant population down to a strong few.
Scarlet Witch
Character » Scarlet Witch appears in 4412 issues.
The world knows Wanda Maximoff as the Scarlet Witch, with probability manipulation and reality-warping abilities. The twin sister of Quicksilver, mother to Wiccan and Speed, and ex-wife of the Vision; Wanda has taken on many roles throughout her life but will forever be known for causing the Decimation.
Off My Mind: How Did Scarlet Witch Mess Up "No More Mutants"?
It looks like one of the alternate futures from Avengers #2 actually had Wanda as a Horsemen of Apocalypse, I think the others were Wolverine, Spider-Man and what looked like Rulk?
Didn't they have some aborbing mutant get tagged with energies that have force sources in space release it all on earth again that's how magneto got his back. The witch just got rid of mutants on earth but those who were feeding from the streams in space like antena taking radio waves or whatever were not effected by her power. As it was out of her spell range.
First, I actually like the fact there has been a reduction in the number of mutants, regardless how it came about. There simply were too many to keep track of plus having a reduced number really makes mutants ostracized, which is a key story component of the X-Men universe.
However, you bring up a good point, G-Man. I do wonder if the 198 remaining are somehow different than the other mutants? Is there any key factor connecting them? What saved them from having their abilities removed? While I'm simply just adding more questions, it is enough to do some research, and I think some Viners may know the answers. Unless of course, it's all just sloppy writing--which I hope is not the case.
yeah, she messed up everything. But if she is that powerful, why can't she bring the old reality back. If she can or does, what will happen to Hope and the new mutants who were born? Will there be any effect? Would Hope still exist?
... I SMELL NO-PRIZE! : P
No, the writer's job is to write a good story. And while you can be a good writer and having plot threads dangling for awhile (see Chris Claremot). As a writer, you cannot have a plot hole the size of an 18 wheeler and that is what Marvel is doing a lot of right now.
Many of the proposed explanations sound good, but for all we know she may simply have not been able to entirely pull it off. I don't remember Wanda being all-powerful after all.
This is not Wanda's fault. This is whoever said at the freaking staff meeting "We have to many mutants, I think we should completely clear the mutant board. And only have 100 or so."
Is it possible that she had some sort of... whats the word..... subconscious. Thats it. Subconscious side of her that didn't want to rid the world of all mutants, so she accidentally saved some? Also, I find it amazing how even though there were only 198 mutants left in the world, most of them happened to already be in the X men. That was pretty lucky
Obviously, this act was purely editorial.
Morrison put some pressure on Marvel co. by writing that in 5-6 generations, there would be no more humans. Quesada and the guys panicked and realized that since Marvel status quo has been the same for 40 years, they sure as hell couldn't change it now. So they basically "reset" the mutant progress bar putting them back in square one. X-Men's extended friend and foes cease to exist, where as just about every x-man retained their powers. Makes sense right? 198 out of billions and billions of mutants thoughout various timelines/universes, and 616 x-men retain their powers.
Quality writing and highly feasible.
The X-Gene may be with someone at birth but it manifest itself at Puberty
@The Impersonator:
What new mutants Hope was the only one unless your counting Astonishing X-men in which an explanation for this has yet to be given
As far as I know the Scarlet Witch has always had some problems controling her powers. Maybe the remaining mutants is a result of that. Also she was not in her right mind at the time so that could of contributed to that as well.
Don't expect answers. We already got them. Obviously, this was an attempt to wash away the stink of the unpopular mutants. The only character that could give you that answer is Deadpool, and that's only because he can break the fourth wall.
Some characters draw their powers from rifts in space, for example Galactus, Captain Universe, Silver Surfer, Nova, Sentry all dipped into the cosmic force it's explained some when they made cosmic hulk, how the intelligentsia figured it out, also its explained in a sentry book. Others have force powers for elements that's everything from freezing to boiling, some have light powers, like fire star with microwaves, or Dazzler, and then there are the electric and electro-magnetic powers like magneto, they picked up on these power sources the way a plant uses sunlight, they're just genetically able to tap into these energies and manifest them the way they do. The Scarlet Witch removed all of these but could not destroy them, she relocated them, but as I posted before the absorbing mutant became an agent for a new being as the energies combined made an intelligence and consciousness of itself, Ms Marvel absorbed portions of it, and those spread out from her, and Magneto was restored by it. So apparently those mutants who had powers based on genes lost it all, but those mutants who genes were interacting with outside powers, which would be all the most powerful ones, were left on earth powers intact. Then separate from that all the removed energies returned, but they could just be absorbed back into bodies, other than magneto. Apparently the energy as a whole system knew how to return its power back to magneto but after dividing itself, it was no longer a living thing and the energies just dissipated back to ambient forms including into the dead things around it thus creating living dead to rise, this was taken care of as Shield nuked the area.
Well, perhaps Wanda's "spell" didn't instantaneously effect every mutant. The 198 could have been those that the spell hadn't gotten to before it got to Wanda. If she was depowered, perhaps that also caused her spell to fizzle out before it was completed. Or perhaps it was just sloppy writing...
" Wanda's spell was an attempt by Marvel to reduce the number of mutants because there were too many. Obviously Marvel wasn't thinking of completely eradicating mutants because we wouldn't be talking about the X-Men right now. As for an in-universe explanation, maybe someone interfered with Wanda's spell. Someone like the Phoenix Force. Because if you think of it, Hope was born almost immediately after the Decimation and we all know that Hope has a connection with the Phoenix Force. "this is why. so many writers had added so many mutants that they needed a way to bring the number down. i look at this like AoA.
I think she messed up on a lot of things. She didn't bring back Vision, nor Magda or Anya. I don't think Magneto would have tried to get Wanda to change reality back if he saw his dead wife and daughter. She is not God, but just a mad confused and depresed woman who needs help in many ways. I don't think she ment to realy hurt anyone, she was kind of doing the "I hate you dad, I wish you were dead" thing. Isn't her powers basied on probability as well? That also could be a reason why not everyone was depowered.
she forgot to add the word " ever " at the end.
she was tired, she had a long alternate reality just then.
THANK YOU! I have always said that about DC. Every few years its clears up its plot holes and inconsistencies by teling you "everything you read didnt happen really. Heres the new timeline so it all makes sense."Think for joining. Even if it was only to Marvel bash. Could you please justify DC's constant continuity reboots for me? Thanks :D XXX "
Marvel may get a little brazen with their liberal use of resurrections and convenient ret-cons but at least its still all one timeline!
As for Wanda's mistakes...I think it wasnt so much another power preventing her spell from being complete. I think it has something to do with the strength of the mutations. Not really a ton of people with boring powers D-list powers kept them. Mostly Alphas and Omegas kept their powers so it could be as simple as saying that their mutations were as strong as hers and able to resist. I think people like Professor X, Magneto and Quicksilver lost theirs because in her subconscious they were deemed seriously unworthy of their gifts so she really pushed and forced the issue with them.
marvel isn't crazy to throw away the x-men titles lol
Strangely enough, they sort of did, when the entire company was going/heading to be bankrupt and one way to dig back out was to sell X-Men to Fox. So the comic fan theory goes, that why should Marvel invest so much into maintaining X-Books as their premier franchise when pushing Avengers that bit more can lead to not just profits comic wise, but movie wise as well. Or, Marvel editors could really think that X-Men stories really were best and most popular in the 60's when was the last time mutant numbers were so low.
@lykopis said:
It was a mutant culling. The whole House of M was a joke - and even now, I still don't get it.
Somewhere a Marvel X-Men Editor had a wet dream about Cyclops saving the entire mutant race from the brink of oblivion and since all the higher ups stop caring about X-Men and started to focus on Avengers he was given total impunity in realizing his fantasy - but they needed Cyclops feat to sound more dramatic so they culled al the mutants that weren't Wolverine and Storm (and of course Cyclops) so this is all you need to get, Storm = lazy, hypocrite, bad leader, and Cyclops unsung hero, savior of all just like Johnny 5 (the robot, not the Koala)
The powers that be needed a way to reverse everything Grant Morrison had done (i.e. the extinction gene, exploding numbers of mutants, mutant culture, etc.), and Scarlet Witch provided the most easy way to do it.
@moywar700 said:
Yep, the mutant population was beginning to become a sizeable population which took away their minority angst, an the powers that be desperately wanted to hit the reset button since most writers have no idea what the X-Men's relevance is witout this story angle. I was very annoyed that the "Children's Crusade" had so many characters acting WIS/PIS. Scarlet Witch could have, for example, tweaked her spell so that only mutants who liked their powers would get them back. Instead they had Patriot act out of character, made Dr. Doom look stupid and had a bunch of heroes standing around gawking.
Well Hello everyone, I came here to answer the puzzling question about why not all has begone by her evocation. The reason why is because she said "No more mutants" but she did not evoke the words "No more Mutates" which would be the end of mankind if she did evoke on mutates because mutates are not born Earth x mutants, they are just normal humans that got caught up in some bio goo granting them powers instead of life threatening cancer but even normal humans...the entire planet have some type of genetic mutated cells like tumors, cancer, ringworm's, chicken pops etc and so she would have destroyed us all.
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