The Liefeld Bandwagon

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Posted by DStrokeWilson (6 posts) - - Show Bio

I still don't understand anyone who says its some kind of contest to hate the guy. Its like saying you're on a bandwagon to hate Hitler. Sure, he did help Germany somewhat, but there are absolutely substantial reasons to call him a blasted Nutjob. Now, I don't know about his ENTIRE career, but I can tell you: He did do a horrible job on Deathstroke and Lobo. Yes, its a rant.

Was reading that article about him getting fired, even the comments. I like how he derails the obvious problems with excuses. "I was told not to draw Lobo with Leather and chains.." Yeah? Were you instructed to give him that Vegeta due? Or make his "Costume" as simple as a tank top and blue jeans? Throughout The New 52, we've seen a LOT of variations and creative changes to the uniforms worn by heroes and villains alike. Hell, Deathstroke had a "Ninja/Militia" thing going on before Kyle Higgins run. Suddenly he has this Spartan (Halo) kind of get-up. I thought it was an AMAZING change, and clearly relevant to the character for many reasons. Yes, maybe we wanted a funny, leather covered Lobo. But honestly? There's no excuse for making a poor-man's Lobo, when so many other titles and changes are made so sufficiently. What's the first thing you noticed about Lobo in Deathstroke #9? I'm pretty sure it was everything BUT his weekend attire. How about the fact he barely spoke, and when he did it was random boasts about taking over the world and destroying it in the same issue.

Rob Liefeld doesn't belong in any industry that pays. His quality of work isn't worth the dime. Only person I know who likes Rob Liefeld is some Hippster who hates DC and MARVEL (True story.) "Image is creative and free thinking!", he tells me. "They're original." And then I look at Cabbot from Bloodstrike and I'm like.. Really? You're calling the guy based on Cable & Deadpool original? Deadpool, who was ALREADY based off of Deathstroke? I think most of Rob's career is just copy and paste from another book. Almost instantly, you can look through Youngblood and Bloodstrike and see constant generic characters. "Supreme " Shaft, Vogue. If I looked, I'm sure I could go on forever. Those are off the top of my head. But seriously, how did this guy get put in charge of a SERIOUS character? Let alone intelligent characters.

Hey, Rob? Those editors who somehow ignored your cluster of inconsistencies in your drawings notice or cause the sheer idiocy of the line "He's a Bezerker. All rage. You have to fight him head on"? Master Tactician, and he can't think of a way to fight a guy that's "All blind rage"? Issue, 12 I believe it is.. Trades blows with LOBO head on and the best he can do to escape is a nadshot? Are you KIDDING US? I'd review the books right now, but honestly that would mean I'd have to re-read and ORGANIZE the huge list of flaws with the issues. Let's face it, Rob's using excuses. I see these people crying "Oh, poor Rob has no job because the mean editors decided to finally start doing their job." Clearly he needed editors. I also see it said that the books would be the same, regardless of the writer. Explain how both Grifter and Deathstroke turn horribly random and stupid overnight while Liefeld took over? Or, did you forget that the books were O.K before he got them? The Writer DOES make a difference. Editors just stop them from making a stupid difference. (Sometimes, anyway.)

The editors probably saw the TONS of complaints one place or another about Rob's random direction with each book he got. Can you imagine that?

Editor:"Rob, we gotta talk. I've noticed you've made changes to Deathstroke's costume.."

Rob:"Yeah? Who says I have to go with that BORING look that everybody apparently hated, because my take is that amazing."

Editor:"Well, you also changed Deathstroke's attire at least three times in the first book.. Even on the same page you somehow change--"


I bet Rob changed Deathstroke's look because he COULDN'T hack the fine detail done by the one's he got the book from. He can barely draw feet in slippers, let alone thick steel-toed boots. He's an amateur artist that thinks he's God for selling an X-Men title with actual conflict, and less mellow drama.

I could go on more, but I think I'm good for now. New to comicvine, so don't even know where this will be distributed per-say. But, I liked it. Hope if anyone sees they enjoy.

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#1 Posted by vance_astro (90047 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea..rob sucks.

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#2 Posted by laflux (24177 posts) - - Show Bio

@DStrokeWilson: Welcome to the vine. Hope you enjoy it here. I generally agree with what you have to say, although I would say Rob's work has improved slightly over the years. I'm just wondering what he gets up to now- in fact I stated this on my own Liefeld rant/post which i think is just below yours. But the general view on CV is that he should stay retired, and perhaps take a few weekend art classes ;-p

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#3 Posted by LifePool (143 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, hate that dude.

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