Mighty Thor #6 - The Strongest Viking There Is Part One

So the real Thor is in this one?

Yep

Yea, just in time to get stomped by some random Viking Hulk.

Makes sense to focus on Loki and the Odinson - Jane can't be in two places at once and the present day scenes in this probably take place at the same time as Standoff, which would explain her non-involvement. This week's other titles affected by Standoff, Captain America is a direct tie-in, while Nova clearly takes place beforehand (as it ends an arc that's been going on for half a dozen issues).

Nah, the real Thor wasn't in this comic at all, only Loki and Odinson. This issue is pretty boring, too much information dump with no real progress.

Well, Jason Aaron using any type of Hulk can only lead to harming both the Hulk and the Thor name.

Exactly.

@poeticwarrior:

The real Thor? The Norse god of lighting is the real thor. Too much information in a comic? That's incredibly sad, poetic warrior

@supervalley: Right? Its a comic book, none of these characters are real.

I just want them to return Odinson to his rightful place as Thor. Having Jane as Thor goes against so much previously established Thor canon. When Mjolnir was broken it was bonded to Thor's life force so it would only obey him. What happened to that?

Nice.

Art looked terrible. I'll be back for #8 when dauterman is back

Best ANAD Thor so far, because Vaginthor wasnt shown.

@goellterator: that's a little narrow-minded

@jtmac005:

And why? This book is horrible and female Thor is not nearly as much fun as Odinson. If they want to make a women strong like Thor, then give her a new idenity.

Nah, too much useless stuffs, the entire books could have been narrate in 2 pages and focus on developing the story. I honestly could give a crap about something happened to Odinson in the past, they should just focus on the real Thor.

@poeticwarrior: have fun with your 'real thor'. It is a sad gimmick and it will be done soon

It's sad when you have to keep convincing yourself that. Thor is selling really well, they're not gonna replace the real Thor with Odinson anytime soon. :)

I would laugh if they replace Thor on films as well, I could just see the look on your face.

@poeticwarrior:

A lot of people support trump; doesn't mean that it's not a gimmick based in ignorance, right? Maybe the licensed physicians at marvel will cure Jane's cancer with super hero will power. So inspiring and misleading and a gimmick to get money!

Considering how Marvel cure Superheroes deaths every year, I don't see why cancer is an exception. This is not an election, this is simply business so of course they want to make money, Jane is selling really well, they won't replace her because people like Jane as Thor. A few people complain about it online don't change the sale number.

@poeticwarrior: cancer is real. Super hero deaths are not real. They are exploiting weakness and fear for money. Marvel just let me know that projected sales are down for shethor because me and a few people online made everyone realize how poorly of an idea it 'was'. They said sorry for the identity theft and they will try to think of new characters to satisfy the Politically annoying

The sales are slightly down, it happens to almost every series as the book accumulated more issues, some may lose interests or pick up some other books. It has nothing to do with people disliking Jane. A few whiners on the internet don't speak for everyone who buys a Thor book.

@poeticwarrior:

A few whiners on the Internet get garbage like this made. It will be canceled very soon (Before the next Thor movie)

Yeah, because Thor is selling so poorly that it will get canceled. lol. They're not gonna cancel something that is making them a lot of money.

@supervalley

Some people find in Aaron's current creative decisions on Thor a way to try to provoke Thor/Asgard fan base, most of them don't actually care for the story and everything else, its just the nature of this site and how some users view their preferences and what is perceived as threat to that same preferences, in the end this people can't understand that this comic was designed to bring new audiences to the franchise that also includes other comics like JIM, The Fearless, Loki and more recently Angela, but here was where marvel failed completely their goal, most of Thor/Asgard established readers rejected this creative decisions to a point where all the mentioned spins were cancelled including Angela new comic, comic book sales are a lot more than just a number from one specific comic, and this huge Pr comic never even sold like JMS run and currently is basically on par with TgoT (that was coming from the poor Fraction take on Thor and never had the now popular Loki in the narrative) the people that still read this comic clearly don't have interest in other comics since for example the Avengers (fits Thordis) new comic sales are just bad. This specific comic (changes) had main stream attention/rejection, but marvel pressed the ideology button (and keeps doing it) and for that still has some appeal that is not based on the catastrophic execution or narrative, and that makes it very fragile beyond the Ragnarok movie where all this creative decisions will have to revert back! I think Sam is still is Cap with Steve's return (just in time for his movie) but again with Aaron current execution that will not happen with Jane, because she is just the hammer's host... Without it she is just Jane... And what i said also makes almost impossible to translate to live action, (sentient Mjolnir?) at least with the current Mcu/Marvel Studios credibility/brand...

If marvel comics doesn't want to lose most of the established Thor/Asgard readership definitely and make the franchise grow again with Asgardian content in the spins (Loki for President is not Asgardian at all), they will have to announce something for at least the next November regarding Thor and Aaron will not be able to sell the comic at least by himself... From at least November of 2016 to November of 2017 you will see Marvel pander Thor/Asgard fan base like never before, i will not read any of it but by November 2017 (Ragnarok movie) the vibe has to be completely different, its not a question of if, its just how powerful the movie medium is, and how it needs the comic book fans happy and creating hype in the social media regarding their fav. characters movies...

Define bad, All New All Different Avengers is selling over 50,000 copies, more than Justice League of America.

@poeticwarrior:

Define bad, All New All Different Avengers is selling over 50,000 copies, more than Justice League of America.

Wait... You didn't know that the All New All different Marvel is a total flop? With several comics near cancellation and some already canceled? Yet you give the impression you know about comic book sales?

Bad means lose almost half of the readership from the last relaunch! The Justice League numbers are irrelevant... We are speaking of Marvel two last relaunches! Without a total reboot Marvel comics will not be able to appeal again to all this lost readers...

Marvel Now (2012)

Avengers 1 $3.99 Marvel 186,989

Avengers 2 $3.99 Marvel 93,894

Avengers 3 $3.99 Marvel 92,165

Avengers 4 $3.99 Marvel 83,088

Avengers 5 $3.99 Marvel 82,452

Avengers 6 $3.99 Marvel 84,868

Avengers 7 $3.99 Marvel 78,278

Avengers 8 $3.99 Marvel 82,691

All New/Different Marvel (2015)

All New All Different Avengers 1 $4.99 Marvel 128,570

All New All Different Avengers 2 $3.99 Marvel 67,154

All New All Different Avengers 3 $3.99 Marvel 57,584

All New All Different Avengers 4 $3.99 Marvel 57,114

All New All Different Avengers 5 $3.99 Marvel 51,740

All New All Different Avengers 6 $3.99 Marvel 48,022

All New All Different Avengers 7 $3.99 Marvel 52,631

All New All Different Avengers 8 $3.99 Marvel ??,???

There are so many Avengers titles out nowadays. It's a new relaunch people checking out the changes. There are also many other titles to compete with it. You can't really prove that if they have kept it the same way, they would have higher readership. I don't read Avengers because I hate Sam Wilson and Miss Marvel. I'm not sure why an ensemble book fail has to be because of Thor.

@poeticwarrior:

There are so many Avengers titles out nowadays. It's a new relaunch people checking out the changes. There are also many other titles to compete with it. You can't really prove that if they have kept it the same way, they would have higher readership. I don't read Avengers because I hate Sam Wilson and Miss Marvel. I'm not sure why an ensemble book fail has to be because of Thor.

Nope Avengers have the same titles from 2012 (Marvel now) here are some other numbers from the other Avengers titles...

Marvel Now New Avengers 7 $3.99 Marvel 60,138

All New All Different New Avengers 7 $3.99 Marvel 18,520

Marvel Now Uncanny Avengers 5 $3.99 Marvel 84,382

All New All Different Uncanny Avengers 5 $3.99 Marvel 43,618

Weren't you claiming (in past posts) that Thordis potential is huge (even translate for live action and replace Thor, lol), Batman and Spider-Man are the biggest comic book franchises because the readership is so big that can support several titles at the same time, and Thordis appeal is very limited, is that simple ... besides use everything build by other character her appeal is mixed regarding casual readers and terrible regarding Asgardian readers, like i said in the other post every single other Asgardian comic was cancelled since that whisper, she has new readers but is galaxies away from Thor's potential, because the old readers dislike everything about the creative decisions around her, did you ever check JMS/Thor sales? If Thor was relaunched without Aaron and his current creative decisions it would have incredible sales, because The All New All different is just a disguised way for marvel create Hype for the Mcu most popular characters return, diversity was just a pr/excuse, the problem is that Aaron is also Star Wars writer and will not be easy for marvel push him away from Thor's title, and Aaron is naive enough to think he still can appeal to Thor/Asgard fan base, he just can't because he basically destroyed Asgard... Either Way most of the last decisions by marvel editorial have big risks for the future, maybe Image Comics Publisher, Eric Stephenson, can make you understand why in the end, scenarios like the All New All Different stuff is actually hurting the comics industry! link

He went on to explain that this is short-term thinking and won't help the industry, as a whole, down the road. He continues with the idea that everyone is doomed to repeat history unless change happens and soon.

We've gone back to gimmicks, to variant covers and relaunches and reboots and more of the same old stunts disguised as events, when really all our readers want are good stories.

We're giving them great jumping on points over and over again, but it's becoming so commonplace our audience instead sees them as opportunities to cut and run. We are misinterpreting sales spikes for long-term success, and worst of all, we are spending so much time looking at how to keep going that we've lost sight of where we were heading in the first place.

Where did I claim Thor's potential is huge? I said it would be funny if she replaced Odinson and see how many people cry over it. At the moment, Marvel is trying to reach out to new readers because the white male readers may already reach the plateau point, and it may just stagnate or go down from here, by reaching out to different audience, it may increase sales and bring in new demographic into comics, the same way video games have more female gamers now than ever due to video games industry catering more to them. It's a self fulfilling prophecy to cater to the same group because they believe they're the only ones buying, but then, they're the only ones buying because they're the only ones being catered to.

@poeticwarrior:

Where did I claim Thor's potential is huge? I said it would be funny if she replaced Odinson and see how many people cry over it.

You keep saying that this creative decisions will never revert back in any scenario, but what will you think if Jane dies in the comics and right in the beginning of the Ragnarok movie (without Marvel Studios even need of Natalie Portman)? Better what do you think the people that will potentially cry will think/act in my described scenario?

At the moment, Marvel is trying to reach out to new readers because the white male readers may already reach the plateau point, and it may just stagnate or go down from here, by reaching out to different audience, it may increase sales and bring in new demographic into comics, the same way video games have more female gamers now than ever due to video games industry catering more to them. It's a self fulfilling prophecy to cater to the same group because they believe they're the only ones buying, but then, they're the only ones buying because they're the only ones being catered to.

That is what marvel comics editorial want people think about the All New All ... But in the end they are only reinforcing some brands and in Thor's case sacrificing Jane for it, if what you said was really their goal they would press different buttons once they acknowledged all the negative feed back, (that has to do with the creative decisions/execution not genders, i am a huge Sif fan) people that like this comic can spin it in many ways, but in the end they dislike that so many people hate this creative decisions/execution, marvel should explore a pacific appeal regarding new and established readers but no... They actually want all this .... around this comic because keeps some new (ideology) readers and has potential for other/new antagonized readers by some current plots for Thor's return, after we explore all the variables regarding this comic the conclusion is that this is not how you should expand your brand because the appeal range was not well build, its just exploring extremes, with the current creative decisions has this readers and when they revert back will have those readers! And some of the new readers could actually identify/like of Sif, Val or Angela but its everything about Thor and a sacrificed character for his own brand...

I don't actually mind if Jane is Thor or not, I just wish the writing is better.

Well this issue o.k.

Agreed.

@the_titan_lord: @katanalauncher: Guys i'm telling you there is going to be TWO Thor's.

GIve us the real Thor.

@stormphoenix: is this Thor going to continue on with cancer like that it's some kind of cold forever? I am actually really hoping she gets cured in Pleasent Hill.

@redwingx Nigh

Bring back real Thor, Jane is bastardizing his lore

Aaron didn't read that issue.

So? Thors are awesome.

Why you so defensive "So?" sheesh lol was only saying what's going to happen.

I don't mind it although it could get annoying after while not knowing which on I should call Thor in all, but it's an interesting concept.

If this comic's existence riles up the white male population this badly, I hope Jane Foster's cancer gets cured and she remains Thor forever. These comments are fantastic.

Good issue, I like anytime Loki gets the spotlight and I love tales of "Young Thor". The art was interesting and added to the old time feel.

1. Loki is ruined. They made Loki look like Tom.

2. Why Odin is such a d@ck? Odin is not behaving himself lately. Odin being a-hole has no reason being here.

3. This series panders to feminists. It's not about telling a good story.

I'm tired of diversity in comics. We have Doctor Vodoo,Blade,Blue Marvel,Black Panther, and tons of female characters.Which Marvel never uses. How about create new characters.

I have an idea. Why not make Nighthawk black? I really enjoyed him in Max series.

So,the Loki that told this tale and stabbed Freya is the same as the god of stories Loki? Or not?

@lokigodofevil: this

I would like to say that art in this and next issue is utterly disgusting. Looks like someone came out of the cave, proud of his skill in cave drawings, and now wanting to show it to the whole world.

The coloring looks like someone took the brush and united all the colors in one mass of mud. All the faces like a love child of Quasimodo and creepiest shouting Yōkai. One panel with Thor`s face could even creep out a Void to leave Reynold`s body and mind forever.