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New Avengers #25 - What Happened When the World Woke Up

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The future is an unkind place for what remains of the Illuminati, both new and old.

The Good

Last issue took us forward eight months to show us a world where the sinister Cabal, made up of some of the most heinous characters in the Marvel Universe, was halting Incursions with a brutal effectiveness. We got to see Namor beseech Doom for help, but his pleas fell on deaf ears and now we catch up with what Reed Richards, Beast and Hulk, along with a newly joined up Captain Britain. While they duck, dodge, dip, dive and...dodge a vastly expanded S.H.I.E.L.D., we also get to see what happened with Amadeus Cho from a couple of issues back. Jonathan Hickman’s vision for the future is a fascinating, fearful one and apparently we’ve got quite a bit more time before we discover every secret behind it. The most compelling part, surely, is Susan Richards on an opposing side from her husband and while this has happened before, it’s never gone quite like this.

Kev Walker’s art is truly great, hitting a new high of detail and facial expressions communicating a wide range of emotion. From Cho’s snide smirk to Beast’s wide-eyed concern and everything in between, Walker is proving that his run on AVENGERS ARENA and UNDERCOVER was only the beginning of what we were seeing from him. Frank Martin and David Curiel’s colors are likewise suited to the dingy, dark and ultimately grim future they’re coloring. The colors in this book are almost always dark, even when lit by the blinding fluorescents of the Helicarrier’s overhead lighting. There’s something sharp and sinister about even that brightness.

The Bad

Here’s the thing that's always been consistent about Hickman’s storytelling: even when it's baffling or not all the information is being made explicit there's been a reasonable expectation that things will become clear, and until they do there's still an emotional core to connect with in the characters. That is, unfortunately, not the case in this issue specifically. It’s unclear how these characters got here, why some of them ARE here and while that could make for an intriguing, interesting mystery, the central conflict that split these two factions is neither made clear nor even hinted at. It likely has something to do with the secrets of the Incursions and reformation of the Illuminati, but Hulk is running with them. The guy they conked on the noggin and shot into space. Apparently the Capt. Britain Corps is gone, and S.H.I.E.L.D. has expanded ridiculously. Last issue was confusing, but ultimately the spectacle of the Cabal’s slaughter coupled with the contempt of Doom for Namor was a solid core. Here, we have the conflict of Sue and Reed, but since it lacks a solid core, it comes off as emotionally hollow.

The Verdict

This will all likely make sense by the end of the arc, or even series, but this issue as it now stands is merely good. This is still a story arc with an absolute tone of potential still excited for what may be coming in this title, but I’d also be lying if I said I wasn’t disappointed after how stellar the last issue was that this one backslid on both emotional impact and the sense of time and place. The art is still amazing and the concepts are, at the very least, interesting enough to keep me coming back, but this is a definite bump in the road.

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jaybefre

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You just gotta be patient. You know how Hickman tells his stories, he thinks long term. I like how this story filled in the gaps of what was taking place with Cho's adventure in Avengers and Black Panther's covert affair in the last New Avengers issue. We all just gotta sit back and enjoy the ride. Everything will be made clear in due time.

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Will pick up

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Have to wait to after work!!! I think 10 years from now ppl will be saying that Hickmans run will be among Marvels/Avengers best runs easily up there with Kree-Skrull War and the Korvac/Dark Phoenix sagas.

Time will tell, it always does - The Doctor

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Hulk got over what the Illuminati did to him. It's not like he hasn't been working with it's members since then.

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Yeah, Hulk has been working with Reed and Tony many times since then, so the getting-shot-into-space stuff really isn't an issue. This issue is probably a perfect example of Hickman's complete lack of any sense of pacing; one issue pushes the plot forward and the next just spins the wheels and does nothing.

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Hickman Avengers feels like DC stuff. Too much multiverse, time travel etc. I love Avengers in Marvel Cinematic Universe but not in the comics. Rick Remender Uncanny Avengers is character driven story which I prefer more.

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After everything the heroes have done I'm hoping the marvel universe just ends.

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Hickman Avengers feels like DC stuff. Too much multiverse, time travel etc. I love Avengers in Marvel Cinematic Universe but not in the comics. Rick Remender Uncanny Avengers is character driven story which I prefer more.

You do realize Uncanny Avengers dealt with time travel, celestial gods, psychic manifestation dream monsters, and alternate realities, right????

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Not a bad issue, I just wish it pushed the story forward instead of bridging the gap between the last issue of avengers and new avengers

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It's not Hulk. He's Doc Green now, you know.

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@jaybefre: enjoy the ride?. For me Hickman avengers is about enjoying the destination and just skip the ride. I started with issue #1 of both Avengers and New Avengers. Left avengers in issue 3 and NA in 6. Then, read Infinity (enjoyed it). after that i only read a couple issues ,the one where they fight the JLA clones and last month's New Avengers, enjoyed both.

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Hickman hasn't let me down so far,I'm patient with his work

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@dondave: Yea and all those peole who died on Hulkworld and the army that followed him to Earth for vengeance didn't matter all that much to him anyway. He's a marvel character and they don't have loyalty or good memories.

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Haven't read this yet.

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I wish this had better art

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So many characters rocking beards. Thor, Hyperion and now Captain Britain rocking a new beard.

So looks like the Captain Britain Corps didn't have much success stopping the incursion like we saw in the last ASM issue.

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Also, with the world/worlds coming to an end. I would think that Banner/Hulk/Doc Green would put aside his personal grudge with the New Avengers and help save the world.

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I really liked this issue and felt that the Cho and Susan convo was amazing. Can't wait to see what happens when husband and wife meet. (How are they still married though?)

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I really liked this issue and felt that the Cho and Susan convo was amazing. Can't wait to see what happens when husband and wife meet. (How are they still married though?)

whatever happened to that girl who was reeds first love in high school or was it unniversary to split them up?????

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It could have been done a little more clearly. There's nothing wrong with mystery or playing around with expectations but this could have used a sentence or two of explication. When you've got something as complicated as this, and you're (I think) also running the storyline through another comic (Avengers? at lest that's my impression although I haven't been reading it), it's hard to have 2 issues come right after each other and seem to have almost nothing to do with each other. I mean there are connections, but it only takes one or two narration boxes to make everything way easier and not dilute the storytelling.

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This was great. It's been way too long since we saw Amadeus' brand of smart ass.

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@hopesummersforthefuture: If you're referring to the character I think you're talking about: She became a brain and died in Hickman's arc.

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damn what happened this issue haha

New Avengers was rockin' 4 to 5 stars consistently for while there
as far as the critics on Hickman's writing style, if y'all just wait around and keep reading im sure it will be worth it, as per usual.

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I can't understand how can Hickman have such great ideas and big plots up his sleeve but sometimes he just makes things look so boring and slowly paced that you can literally die reading the issue.

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@maccyd said:

@hopesummersforthefuture: If you're referring to the character I think you're talking about: She became a brain and died in Hickman's arc.

what was her name?

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Have to wait to after work!!! I think 10 years from now ppl will be saying that Hickmans run will be among Marvels/Avengers best runs easily up there with Kree-Skrull War and the Korvac/Dark Phoenix sagas.

Time will tell, it always does - The Doctor

no hes going to reboot the whole marvel comics

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