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Civil War II #1

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There is a divide coming within the Marvel Universe.

Minor spoilers have been blocked out.

Stop me if you've heard this one before. Actually, don't stop me. Hear me out. The Marvel Universe is about to be faced with a choice that will draw a line down the middle. Heroes will have to, once again, choose a side. This may sound like what happened before in the 2006 Civil War arc, but this time it's a little different. Brian Michael Bendis is no stranger to the big events at Marvel Comics. You can bet the stakes have been raised, and there will be some shocks and twists.

The choices that will be presented upon the heroes are, "Change the future" or "Protect the future." If they can suddenly gain a way to find out if something really bad is about to happen, should something be done to try to change that event? It soon becomes a matter of where to draw the line, or how far do you go in an attempt to stop something before it can happen. Should action be taken against an individual if they haven't done anything just yet? Is the future set in stone, or could there still be a chance things will happen differently?

While the decision seems to have been put on hold, a faction of the Marvel Universe decides to act upon information given to them. This has some fatal results. It's an unexpected surprise. Unfortunately the death of a character isn't actually seen immediately. We find out who and then are shown a flashback of the event. This does allow for a bigger impact when the news is first revealed. The outcome is we get to focus more on the reaction of the death instead of the actual events leading up to the death. To escalate the impact of the story further, this isn't even the only casualty that occurs. Because of how it's handled, it almost feels like the two casualties are more for shock value at the expense of the characters.

David Marquez's art and Justin Ponsor's colors are fantastic. The story hits the ground running and the visuals immediately suck you into the story. There is something pretty exciting when seeing an enormous amount of characters on the same page. Marvel is making this out to be their big event of the year and Marquez and Ponsor are completely on board in making that happen.

While plenty does happen in this oversized issue, there is a fast pace to it all. This keeps readers enthralled in the story, but you also get the feeling this is still just set up for the bigger story. This issue obviously is setting the stage for the event/crossover. It's not immediately clear how this one decision and the repercussions will pull in the rest of the Marvel Universe. The deaths don't involve characters who are the center of the Marvel U.

If you think you've seen a civil war in the Marvel Universe before, think again. Brian Michael Bendis is making this a bigger decision with much more on the line. There is a big decision to be made. Because some characters acted before everyone could agree, there's a price to be paid. David Marquez's art and Justin Ponsor's colors are amazing and this is a really good start to Marvel's next big event. This is just the beginning, and you won't want to miss out on what happens here. Be sure to read the issue before you see spoilers. The Marvel Universe is about to explode. The next big event is here, and there will be casualties.

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Posted By Gotham331

*sigh*

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Posted By werst9

Im just here for marquez art.if the storys any good thats a bonus.

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Posted By ianbareilles

My only complaint is how quickly she hulk switched sides in zero she was clearly against punishment before the crime and punishment should not be given to individuals who are clearly innocent and did not commit the crime....

And to just switch in issue one from having the stance she had issue zero to being in favor of punishing individuals before they even commit the crime who are clearly innocent until proven otherwise.....

Perhaps her encounter with thanos and on her last moments it's possible she had a change of heart but who knows.....

At least it humanizes Carol to take this stance she lost both her boyfriend (Rhodes) and her friend (Jennifer)......

Until proven otherwise I think as it stands Carol is very much justified in taking this stance I really hope bendis will be smart and will try and humanize both Tony and Carol's side opposed to making one side more extreme than the other as they did with Tony in the first civil war.

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Posted By Lvenger

Only 1 issue in and I already know I'm going to hate this more than the original Civil War. And the original had some incredibly frustrating and stupid moments in the story.

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Posted By CobraCommander

@lvenger said:

Only 1 issue in and I already know I'm going to hate this more than the original Civil War. And the original had some incredibly frustrating and stupid moments in the story.

Did you buy it?

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Posted By AtheistKnowledge

@lvenger said:

Only 1 issue in and I already know I'm going to hate this more than the original Civil War. And the original had some incredibly frustrating and stupid moments in the story.

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Posted By Rubear

Stark is such a jerk here.

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Edited By amazingfantasy

This was just as bad as I expected it.

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Posted By dondave

@rubear said:

Stark is such a jerk here.

Is he? Carol got his best friend killed, I don't know how else he'd act.

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Posted By amazingfantasy
@lvenger said:

Only 1 issue in and I already know I'm going to hate this more than the original Civil War. And the original had some incredibly frustrating and stupid moments in the story.

My feelings exactly.

@werst9 said:

Im just here for marquez art.if the storys any good thats a bonus.

For me the only good thing about this is Marquez... At the very least we get top quality eye candy. It's nice to see him work with so many characters, I don't think he ever did before.

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Edited By the_stegman

Won't be buying this. I'm tired of events from Marvel, and this is the only way to show them.

But this will sell like gangbusters, like always.

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Posted By Rubear

@dondave said:
@rubear said:

Stark is such a jerk here.

Is he? Carol got his best friend killed, I don't know how else he'd act.

He is. You would like to have bloody Thanos of Titan, guy who killed half of universe once, running around with Cosmic Cube? Or whole Earth destroyed by this huge celectial thing?

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Posted By JTMac005

Like others here, I will basically buy this for David Marquez art.

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Posted By dondave

@rubear said:
@dondave said:
@rubear said:

Stark is such a jerk here.

Is he? Carol got his best friend killed, I don't know how else he'd act.

He is. You would like to have bloody Thanos of Titan, guy who killed half of universe once, running around with Cosmic Cube? Or whole Earth destroyed by this huge celectial thing?

And how did that help exactly? In an effort to prove that her plan worked, Carol didn't even bother to call for backup from the various superheroes and that led to two deaths. There was nothing wrong is using Uysesse but knowing the caliber of threat that Thanos is, the first thing she should have done was call for backup.

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Posted By Rubear

@dondave said:
@rubear said:
@dondave said:
@rubear said:

Stark is such a jerk here.

Is he? Carol got his best friend killed, I don't know how else he'd act.

He is. You would like to have bloody Thanos of Titan, guy who killed half of universe once, running around with Cosmic Cube? Or whole Earth destroyed by this huge celectial thing?

And how did that help exactly? In an effort to prove that her plan worked, Carol didn't even bother to call for backup from the various superheroes and that led to two deaths. There was nothing wrong is using Uysesse but knowing the caliber of threat that Thanos is, the first thing she should have done was call for backup.

It helps with Thanos in cell without any Cosmic Cube and Earth not broken. I'm speaking not about him angry on Carol. I'm speaking of him totally against changing of future, against using Uysesse at all and going to invade Atillan in next issues.

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Posted By ianbareilles

@dondave: Carol is t at fault here thanos is the one who killed Rhodes,

James was obviously just as important and meant a lot to Carol as much as he did to Tony.

With that said Tony's response is very much human as is carols they both lost someone they deeply cared about and meant a lot to them and on top of that Carol lost her best friend Jennifer I think if she knew that either Jennifer or James would die by confronting thanos she would done things differently honestly I don't think Carol is in the wrong here I think Tony is reacting the way he is because he lost his best friend and blames Carol for not doing enough but the truth is she did nothing wrong this is all thanos doing.

And she's clearly hurting both Tony and Carol are hurting bendis has a tendency to humanize both sides which is great.

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Posted By Rubear

@dondave: By the way you can find FCBD Civil War issue and look on said fight yourself.
You'll see that:
1) Coming of Warmachine was not expected or called.
2) She-Hulk suffered this mortal wound from... Warmachine missle.
3) Thanos punched him when he was distracted after this friendly fire.
How this is "Carol got him killed?"

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Edited By ianbareilles

What I'm really hoping with this civil war ii that unlike the first civil war I'm hoping bendis will continue to do what he did perfectly I think in this issue which is instead of making one side the villain and the more extreme side Like Tony was portrayed as and written as in the first civil war is I'm hoping they legitimize and justify and humanize the positions both sides are taking and try and show each characters point of view and why they're taking the positions they're taking instead of making one side worse than the other.

I think as it stands Carol and Tony's sides and positions are both very much human and justified they're obviously both hurt from the loss of Jennifer and James and they'll be taking the positions and sides they're on based on this tragedy.

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Posted By Lvenger
@lvenger said:

Only 1 issue in and I already know I'm going to hate this more than the original Civil War. And the original had some incredibly frustrating and stupid moments in the story.

Did you buy it?

No, I found another way to find out what was happening.

@lvenger said:

Only 1 issue in and I already know I'm going to hate this more than the original Civil War. And the original had some incredibly frustrating and stupid moments in the story.

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LOL, the meme I sent you has come full circle I see.

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Posted By tensor

Lots of characters are going to die.The thing is they will not stay dead by the end of this arc. The question is how are they going to write it this time to bring them back.

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Posted By dondave

@rubear said:

@dondave: By the way you can find FCBD Civil War issue and look on said fight yourself.

You'll see that:

1) Coming of Warmachine was not expected or called.

2) She-Hulk suffered this mortal wound from... Warmachine missle.

3) Thanos punched him when he was distracted after this friendly fire.

How this is "Carol got him killed?"

She got him killed because in trying to prove Ulysses worked she neglected to get backup to take on one of the most powerful Marvel villains. Characters such as Thor, Hyperion, Starbrand, Dr Strange, Scarlet Witch etc should have been called on to take on a threat such as Thanos.

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Posted By Rubear

@dondave: *Sigh*
And just what gave you that impression?

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Posted By Goellterator

Not bad for the start.

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Posted By dondave

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@dondave: *Sigh*

And just what gave you that impression?

What else? You're going up against the most powerful marvel villain and you don't call in your top guns?

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Posted By Rubear

@dondave: Blue Marvel and Spectrum are top guns, you know. For example Blue Marvel took down King Hyperion and Spectrum stood against kinda Beyounder "Defiler" or something. If not coming of Warmachine and that stupid mistake of him with missle there'd be no casualities. There were no casualities before this missle and there were no casualities after during fight. What puzzles me so is that for some reason they called Dazzler of all people. xD

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Posted By Lvenger
@dondave said:
@rubear said:

@dondave: *Sigh*

And just what gave you that impression?

What else? You're going up against the most powerful marvel villain and you don't call in your top guns?

^ Exactly.

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@rubear said:

@dondave: Blue Marvel and Spectrum are top guns, you know. For example Blue Marvel took down King Hyperion and Spectrum stood against kinda Beyounder "Defiler" or something. If not coming of Warmachine and that stupid mistake of him with missle there'd be no casualities. There were no casualities before this missle and there were no casualities after during fight. What puzzles me so is that for some reason they called Dazzler of all people. xD

Neither of them are powerful enough to take on Thanos and even in the FCBD issue they were only able to defeat Thanos because he was already weakened before he came to Earth. If that hadn't happened there may have been even more causalities. There's no excuse for her not calling help when facing Thanos.

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Posted By D9000

Gotta say this sounds pretty cool. I don't think I can pick it up monthly but I'll definitely read a collected version later on. Hopefully it keeps up the quality.

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Posted By phillip33

@dondave: true... Honestly can't wait for the next issue of ultimates to expand on this.

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Posted By micah007123

@rubear said:

@dondave: Blue Marvel and Spectrum are top guns, you know. For example Blue Marvel took down King Hyperion and Spectrum stood against kinda Beyounder "Defiler" or something. If not coming of Warmachine and that stupid mistake of him with missle there'd be no casualities. There were no casualities before this missle and there were no casualities after during fight. What puzzles me so is that for some reason they called Dazzler of all people. xD

^^^Sadly Blue Marvels reputation on the Battle Forums is so far down the toilet people think She-Hulk could one shot him. Meanwhile Spectrum not being A-List automatically reduces her standings, despite her feats.

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Posted By dondave

@rubear said:

@dondave: Blue Marvel and Spectrum are top guns, you know. For example Blue Marvel took down King Hyperion and Spectrum stood against kinda Beyounder "Defiler" or something. If not coming of Warmachine and that stupid mistake of him with missle there'd be no casualities. There were no casualities before this missle and there were no casualities after during fight. What puzzles me so is that for some reason they called Dazzler of all people. xD

^^^Sadly Blue Marvels reputation on the Battle Forums is so far down the toilet people think She-Hulk could one shot him. Meanwhile Spectrum not being A-List automatically reduces her standings, despite her feats.

It has nothing to do with their reputations. Replacing Blue Marvel and Spectrum with Thor and Hyperion wouldn't have led to them defeating Thanos but having the extra backup greatly reduces the risk of casualties.

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Posted By micah007123

@dondave said:
@micah007123 said:
@rubear said:

@dondave: Blue Marvel and Spectrum are top guns, you know. For example Blue Marvel took down King Hyperion and Spectrum stood against kinda Beyounder "Defiler" or something. If not coming of Warmachine and that stupid mistake of him with missle there'd be no casualities. There were no casualities before this missle and there were no casualities after during fight. What puzzles me so is that for some reason they called Dazzler of all people. xD

^^^Sadly Blue Marvels reputation on the Battle Forums is so far down the toilet people think She-Hulk could one shot him. Meanwhile Spectrum not being A-List automatically reduces her standings, despite her feats.

It has nothing to do with their reputations. Replacing Blue Marvel and Spectrum with Thor and Hyperion wouldn't have led to them defeating Thanos but having the extra backup greatly reduces the risk of casualties.

I agree with that, just that Blue Marvel and Spectrum by many aren't considered top guns when they are in fact top guns. I'm still waiting for Blue Marvel to cut loose like what was said would happen in the Ultimates.

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Posted By illmatic4177

This first issue was great, there are those on here that will decide they don't like this without reading it, but the art was great, and it was a fun read with a interesting concept.

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Posted By oldwasher

not sure if I should read this or not. Part of me likes the concept and thinks it will be fun but the other part doesn't want to pay $5.99 for an issue i'm not even sure i'll like

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Posted By Mark_Stephen

Why is anyone worried about friends dying? What is this Jennifer's 3rd death? For that matter how many times has Thanos died? As to characterization this is Bendis after all, these characters will act as they need to act for the story to move forward, past characterization, past motivation... none of that matters. Be thankful if he spells the name correctly.

But as pointed out above it will probably sell.

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Posted By JamesSpiring

Not bad for the start.

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You can shade in "copy and pasted panels" too - Carol screaming and cradling Rhodey's unconscious body is taken straight from the FCBD issue.

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Posted By Anjon

I'm kind of afraid to ask this, but how does this event fit in with other on-going books in the Marvel Universe? I've been enjoying Ultimates, A-Force, and the standalone Captain Marvel series, and those seem to run outside of this continuity. Is Civil War basically stealing characters away from those books, or will they continue outside of it?

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Posted By CaptainMarvel4Ever

Not a fan of seeing so many heroes drinking

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Not bad for the start.

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You can shade in "copy and pasted panels" too - Carol screaming and cradling Rhodey's unconscious body is taken straight from the FCBD issue.

Don't forget eating and talking about life

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Posted By Mark_Stephen

Well with any luck they'll all kill each other and the villains will take over.

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Posted By nfareed71024

people hate bendis before giving him a chance lol. Okay

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Posted By nappystr8

I was never going to buy this obvious cash-grab of an event as it was, but after hearing what happens in this issue, I really wish there was someway that I could give Marvel and Bendis negative money. Maybe I will stop reading the other books that I do buy by Bendis? Spider-Man has been garbage anyway.

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Posted By greenlucario

I tried to avoid the zero issue, but the fact that this doesn't seem to have gotten better since what happened to War Machine, easy pass for me.

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Posted By Anjon

people hate bendis before giving him a chance lol. Okay

Um... he's not exactly a young upstart. We've given him plenty of chances.

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