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Batman #14 - Funny Bones; Men of Worship

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The Joker is back and is on a mission to rid Batman of all the excess allies in his life. This isn't the Joker you've seen before. He's not holding back.

The Good

Some say Batman can defeat anyone. Just because Joker is back, you would think it wouldn't be a problem for Batman. He's fought him many many times. But this isn't the Joker as we've seen him before. He is more focused than ever before. More calculating than ever. This is Joker at his most deadly state. And of course it's Scott Snyder that's bringing this hell to Batman.

From the opening pages, you see Batman take part in one of Joker's schemes. He has a lot of them going, many at the same time. Finding himself trapped in a vat of the same chemicals that turned Joker into...the Joker is haunting and also shows that Batman might not be fully up to this coming battle against the Joker. Will he get out in time? Well, what do you think. The fact is he fell for one of Joker's traps. That's not a good way to start this encounter against Joker.

The overall chill of the issue is the fact that this story is called "Death of the Family." With death in the title, you would think someone would die. Joker has targeted pretty much everyone around Batman. They all might be skilled in their own ways but they might not be prepared for this level of Joker-madness. As you read the issue, you can't help but wonder who might fall next and if they'll be able to survive. Remember how last issue ended? No matter how prepared Batman might be, there are times when he's just a tad too late. There is one page in particular that really stands out. It's a full page spread that is amazing. Great work by Greg Capullo, Jonathan Glapion and FCO Plascencia.

Not only do we get a chilling and amazing story, it is also wrapped up in an amazing package. Everyone involved with this issue should be proud. It's a great read and is an extreme joy to look at.

One of the big questions carrying over from last issue is does he or doesn't know Batman's secret? This has been discussed before and now it's coming full steam. It's a deadly piece of information that would make Joker even more of a threat. The suspense and the way the issue ends will have you immediately craving the next issue. This is how you end an issue.

The Bad

Clearly I loved the issue. It is a five out of five. But I do have to note that the backup didn't blow me away as much as the Joker/Harley one last issue. It is building up more of the story but perhaps it's because of my lackluster opinion on Penguin that reduced some of my excitement.

The Verdict

Make sure you're in a happy place when you read this issue. We've seen many incarnations of the Joker over the years. We've seen many battles between Batman and Joker. None of that can prepare you for what Scott Snyder and Greg Capullo deliver in this issue. Joker is a beast as his plans against Batman unfold. This is a cold and calculating Joker that wants one thing, to rid Batman of all his excess baggage. He wants Batman all to himself. With that notion stuck in his head, he has targeted pretty much everyone around Batman. Throw in the question of whether or not he knows Batman's secret, it's a deadly game on any levels. I don't know how Synder and Capullo (and Glapion and Plascencia) do it month after month. I don't need to know how. Just as long as it keeps happening, I'll be happy. The Joker is a vicious bastard and you'll love every minute of it.

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I may have a skewed perspective since I have heard the many interviews with Snyder prior to this story arc but I believe that the fact that Batman is falling for all of Joker's traps just goes to prove his point about how weak and dependent Batman has become on his family. His skills are dull and Joker is there to make Batman sharper than ever. It's supposed to take time for him to understand what Joker keeps telling him. Snyder said that all along Joker had a point to prove. If Batman could see it all coming than what would the point be?

I think what happened to Alfred is only the beginning. Did we forget what was on that cassette? The nameless and faceless death's at the hands of Joker will become all too real to someone in the family. Also, based on the little bit of Harley so far and what happens with her and Joker in Suicide Squad #14, it might not be safe for anyone close to Joker either!

That said, I agree that is someone major doesn't meet a grisly fate after explaining the Joker never went away he has been plotting this for over a year, then this story wouldn't mean much of anything. Snyder and Capullo are doing a great job. This is issue 2 not a one-shot. By what I have seen so far I have faith they'll pull off something much bigger than anyone expects.

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While I like REALLY like the new Joker, I find Scott Snyders writting a little slobish here and there , I dunno :P. I actually enjoyed more Batgirl and Suicide squad when it comes to the Death of the family story arc:P , well dialoge wise anyway....

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@MuyJingo said:

Sure. I'm saying the problem isn't that batman fell for a trip, it's that he didn't even suspect something was already amiss, He should have given his prior experience.

Isn't that exactly what he did by bringing along the coagulant? He basically saved Gordon's life because he was the boyscout he is, always prepared. He didn't know Gordon was the target until it was already too late and he had the coagulant just in case it was a case of slow acting poison. I don't see how it's lazy writing if Batman did exactly what you said he should have done?

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@MonkeyToe said:

@MuyJingo said:

Sure. I'm saying the problem isn't that batman fell for a trip, it's that he didn't even suspect something was already amiss, He should have given his prior experience.

Isn't that exactly what he did by bringing along the coagulant? He basically saved Gordon's life because he was the boyscout he is, always prepared. He didn't know Gordon was the target until it was already too late and he had the coagulant just in case it was a case of slow acting poison. I don't see how it's lazy writing if Batman did exactly what you said he should have done?

That was blind luck, not batman being batman. He has the coagulant because it si useful in a variety of situations, not because he anticipated needing it because joker would do something where it was necessary.

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@MuyJingo said:

@MonkeyToe said:

@MuyJingo said:

Sure. I'm saying the problem isn't that batman fell for a trip, it's that he didn't even suspect something was already amiss, He should have given his prior experience.

Isn't that exactly what he did by bringing along the coagulant? He basically saved Gordon's life because he was the boyscout he is, always prepared. He didn't know Gordon was the target until it was already too late and he had the coagulant just in case it was a case of slow acting poison. I don't see how it's lazy writing if Batman did exactly what you said he should have done?

That was blind luck, not batman being batman. He has the coagulant because it si useful in a variety of situations, not because he anticipated needing it because joker would do something where it was necessary.

Blind luck? Seems like true blind luck would be "Oh Hai! Jim Gordon is bleeding but has coagulant medicine in his vanity mirror! Phew!" He carries coagulant BECAUSE its useful. That IS Batman being Batman isn't it? I'm not sure I understand what the complaint is here. You say Batman should have been more prepared, but he was and he reacted to the situation as fast as he could once he knew Gordon was the target. The complain is that Batman planned on bringing him to a safe house? What would you suggest he have done?

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@Mediumflyer7 said:

Don't want to make people angry by spoiling this but the February solicits reveal

Jason Todd is probably going to die. Which really upsets me and confuses me. What does this mean for the title. Will it become 'The Outlaws'

>:(

While that could happen,i'm not sure that's enough to call this Arc Death of the family.But it is possible that multiple people could die like Alfred,Gordon,etc more side characters than anything else,but side characters that are important to the the Bat Family as a Whole.

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This issue was awesome!

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Nobody needs to die for the title "Death of the Family" to ring true.

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@MonkeyToe said:

Blind luck? Seems like true blind luck would be "Oh Hai! Jim Gordon is bleeding but has coagulant medicine in his vanity mirror! Phew!" He carries coagulant BECAUSE its useful. That IS Batman being Batman isn't it? I'm not sure I understand what the complaint is here. You say Batman should have been more prepared, but he was and he reacted to the situation as fast as he could once he knew Gordon was the target. The complain is that Batman planned on bringing him to a safe house? What would you suggest he have done?

If you don't understand, it is because you didn't bother to read.

Batman carries many things with him. The fact that he had a coagulant, was lucky. What if it had been a poison, as in the man who laughs? He would have been screwed, and he didn't even consider that as a possibility. Very UN-batman like.

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@MuyJingo said:

If you don't understand, it is because you didn't bother to read.

Batman carries many things with him. The fact that he had a coagulant, was lucky. What if it had been a poison, as in the man who laughs? He would have been screwed, and he didn't even consider that as a possibility. Very UN-batman like.

The problem is that you made a very general complaint about 'lazy' writing. The problem is, you have no idea WHAT Batman had considered. You say that Batman should have anticipated it because he had dealings with the Joker and that 'putting him in a safe house' was lazy writing. First of all, He found out Gordon was the next Target only hours, if not minutes, before he showed up at Gordon's home. What does that have to do with anticipating poison? His first instinct is to get Gordon that is safe by Batman's standards because they had already failed to stop the joker on his previous outing. That's a logical leap and it's the first thing ANY law enforcement agency would do when they KNOW the next target of a crazy person.

Furthermore, there is nothing to indicate that he HASN'T considered poison! Snyder's writing isn't showing how incapable Batman is, it's showcasing how maniacal the Joker is. You don't think that Batman had an antidote for the Joker poison in his belt? Most likely he did. And it being a BATMAN safe house means that it is likely just as equipped to deal with medical emergencies as the batcave. Obviously the first thing Batman would do is run a series of diagnostics ONCE GORDON WAS SAFE.

The premise of the comic is pointed out in the comic itself. Detectives have to DETECT before they can accomplish anything and you can't DETECT what hasn't happened yet which only leaves Batman the choice of reacting to the Jokers psychopathic series of clues. His plans are already largely in place at this point, balls have already been set in motion, and Batman's only choice is to REACT as best he can, but he is only finding himself a step behind the Joker because he is a cold irrational killer. The Joker is always playing some kind of angle and Batman can't stop him until he figures out what that angle is. He's too late in #14.

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@DarkKnightDetective said:

It looks like as if Dick is smiling.
It looks like as if Dick is smiling.

The only problem that I really had with this issue is this panel.

Besides that I really like it.

Him smiling wouldn't be that bad if you think that he's smiling while saying that last bubble

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Wow. This kept me at the edge of my seat. 5/5

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@SmashBrawler: I noticed this as well in the Black Mirror arc. He just seems different. I love the underlying Joker in Snyder's story, but his actual appearance threw me off. His dialogue seems like he's trying to be witty but it just ins't. That's how I like my Joker, immoral, calculating, and funny. I don't think Snyder has presented his funny side well, even though he's trying.

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@SuperJedi17 said:

@Mediumflyer7 said:

Don't want to make people angry by spoiling this but the February solicits reveal

Jason Todd is probably going to die. Which really upsets me and confuses me. What does this mean for the title. Will it become 'The Outlaws'

>:(

While that could happen,i'm not sure that's enough to call this Arc Death of the family.But it is possible that multiple people could die like Alfred,Gordon,etc more side characters than anything else,but side characters that are important to the the Bat Family as a Whole.

Red Hood 17 solicit says:

• In the wake of “DEATH OF THE FAMILY,” Bruce Wayne confronts Jason Todd!

• You DO NOT want to miss this!

So, either he is dead, and it's like a funeral, or he lives and just meets Bruce, and DC is just hyping the fact that two characters are crossing over in a Batbook other than Batman.

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Are you being deliberately obtuse? I made a fairly specific complaint about why I thought it was lazy writing, and justified it with examples several times.

We can see what Batman considered by his dialogue and his actions. When he found out Gordon was the next target, even if it were minutes or hours before he turned up, his response should he been to test his blood, to stop him from taking the medication, to check the water, SOMETHING. Given his experience in The Man Who Laughs, combined with the fact that Joker is reenacting old crimes, means he should have been much more on edge, suspecting than he was.

From what we have seen, he didn't even consider any of that. It's as though he forgot everything that happened in TMWL. To ignore all of that, to just suggest a safehouse and then have Gordon only been given a blood thinner, which was conveniently neutralized...yes, it is lazy writing. Ignoring past stories which are key to the current story while not bothering to write the character in an accurate way....lazy writing. Ask yourself, it Joker had gotten to Gordon with a time release poison, what would Batman have done? Nothing, because he didn't even consider it as a possibility.

Batman wouldn't have a antidote in his belt. Have you even read any Batman comics? He isn't a magical wizard with a batspray for everything, sharks on onwards. He has practical utilities and gadgets. If there was a poison, he would have had to come up with an antidote for it. It should have been his priority, ignoring it makes him seem inept.

You're trying to say maybe he considered it and we don't know about it. Sorry, but that's a BS argument. We can't imagine if's, we go only by what we see in the comics, and we did not see him consider at all. Given what we did see it seems unlikely he did consider it, or it WOULD HAVE BEEN MENTIONED.

Detectives don't ignore past experience. If a serial killer was reenacting old crimes, they would not ignore and dismiss the methods used to commit those old crimes. They would be on high alert, anticipating those methods being used again. Batman, as the worlds greatest detective, failed to do that. Again, it's lazy writing.

Feel free to disagree and continue fanwanking away an explanation, but the pages in the comic don't lie.

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i've heard you say this a few times on the podcast and again here...what's your deal with Penguin? Why the hate?

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@Funrush:

Honestly I think after this story they will have no place for the Joker for a while so I believe ether Jason kills the Joker and has to go on the run with his team. I do not why Dc would give a character a book that has become popular just to kill him off in a Batman story that will be forgotten in 2 years

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