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Batman #10 - Assault on the Court; The Fall of the House of Wayne, Part 2 of 3

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Since the "New 52" began, we've been wondering what the answers were about the Court of Owls. This issue has massive revelations that will change everything you thought you knew about Bruce Wayne.

This is the big one. This is the issue that will have a huge reveal. This review will be SPOILER FREE for the most part.

The Good

Holy Crap! Scott Snyder takes a huge leap of faith in this issue in terms of what he has added to the Batman mythos. I can't tell you how many times I have read this issue since getting my hands on a copy. I've even gone back and re-read certain issues throughout the series while reading this to see if everything lined up and to catch all the clues that were there from the beginning. There may be some that question the decision Snyder took with the big reveal of who has been behind the chaos Batman has been going through but it all fits and makes sense. It even ties into Batman's previous continuity.

Let's go back to the beginning of the issue. I will not go into the actual detail of the big reveal. You can see Snyder's thoughts on that in our interview posted on the news page here. Batman is back with a vengeance here. He's is determined to put this battle against the Court of Owls to an end. If you've seen the preview images or have read the issue, you see he has gotten to the bottom of who they are. Or at least some of them. This is Batman as we know him. He's a detective and he is also capable of intimidating the $#!& out of you. Even when it appears he may have reached a dead end, his mind keeps working to figure it all out. You can't help but be in awe of the Batman that exists in Snyder's world.

When it gets close to the big confrontation, you get chills with the setting and dread what Batman might find out. As I mentioned, it all makes sense. (I go more in depth with the history and ties to the previous continuity here. There are spoilers at that link so beware). Throughout this series, Batman thought he knew everything. There's always that hint of doubt, even when answers are being laid out. That's what has made this a great run. Snyder is telling us things but we can never be absolutely sure. How can Batman be wrong or misinformed? I understand that there may be some not satisfied with the reveal here. I don't know how that could be possible but everyone is entitled to their own opinion. This issue simply blew my mind.

Greg Capullo's art, Jonathan Glapion's inks and FCO Plascencia's colors are almost enough to bring tears to your eyes. We have a variety of settings and even see Bruce in the early morning with the sun coming up. The details pouring off each page are spectacular.

The back up by Snyder, James Tynion IV and Rafael Albuquerque continues to add elements to the main story. Seeing the pieces fit together is a blast. I have to say I love Albuquerque's rendition of Martha. She's never looked better or more feisty.

The Bad

Nothing.

The Verdict

Scott Snyder continues to deliver the insane levels of storytelling he is now known for. Reading this will open your eyes to how the entire series (since the "New 52" started) has been laid out. Whenever Snyder lays his cards out on the table, you can see and appreciate how far back the story elements go. Snyder doesn't do things for shock value or on the fly. You can really see the intricate details he puts into his stories.

Everyone involved in this issue, Greg Capullo, Jonathan Glapion, FCO Plascencia, James Tynion IV and Rafael Albuquerque deserve a round of applause. It's been a blast seeing this explosive resolution to a big mystery but of course the story isn't over yet. There still is more to come and who knows what Snyder will throw at us next.

I've enjoyed this series from the beginning. Snyder may be taking a bit of a risk with this issue but it's all brilliantly laid out and executed, I couldn't be prouder to be a Batman fan. I often get asked if I could only read one comic book each month, what would it be. No doubt it would be Scott Snyder's BATMAN.

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This is the first thing in this week's stack I'm reading. All the early reviews have been astounding.

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The twist is genius.

For once, Snyder actually uses continuity right. Indeed, the Silver Age Batman had a crazy brother AND in Morrison's JLA Earth II, OWLman was Thomas Wayne Jr.

The craziest thing is, on April's Fool, the N°1 French Comic book website revealed exactly this but as a prank.

At the time, I knew it was a prank but I thought it did make sense and that it actually would make a good reveal.

http://www.mdcu.fr/news-006971-grosse-revelation-sur-la-court-of-owl.html#45980

This is just insane.

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"...if I could only read one comic book each month, what would it be. No doubt it would be Scott Snyder's BATMAN."

Yea I totally agree with you...it took me a while to figure out exactly what I wanted to read when the New 52 began because well...there were 52 series that i had to sift through and not just their first issues, I wanted to see what each series that was of interest to me would have by issue 3. Once I got there I was able to narrow it down and slowly but surely BATMAN was the victor...now, I can't bring myself to read just one comic a month though, after missing out on a couple of issues I'm going to go get my Red Hood and the Outlaws comics again....then, come September, I will be picking up Talon for sure. But BATMAN still reigns supreme.

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@DarthShap: For once? Really? He used it pretty damn well in his Tec run. Uses it pretty well in his Swamp Thing. How do you think he's misused it in his post reboot Batman? I know some have complained about how the Court's nests don't line up with the prior continuity because of No Man's Land but I think people need to realize that this is a NEW UNIVERSE/TIME LINE/CONTINUITY and just accept that and move on. Those comics don't apply to present stories as a base anymore. Some of the elements have been used and it's nice to see that but I don't think the writers of the New 52 should be beholden to the preboot stories. Continuity's one of the best/worst things about cape comics because it adds weight/history to the world, but also chains the best writers stories to the worsts'. In my opinion continuity should always take a back seat to storytelling. And in a reboot like this, continuity should be left behind with the old numbering. I think DC shot themselves in the foot by not going with a clean, hard reboot across the board and that has pissed off old fans/continuity nuts to no end.

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@JonesDeini said:

@DarthShap: For once? Really? He used it pretty damn well in his Tec run. Uses it pretty well in his Swamp Thing. How do you think he's misused it in his post reboot Batman? I know some have complained about how the Court's nests don't line up with the prior continuity because of No Man's Land but I think people need to realize that this is a NEW UNIVERSE/TIME LINE/CONTINUITY and just accept that and move on. Those comics don't apply to present stories as a base anymore. Some of the elements have been used and it's nice to see that but I don't think the writers of the New 52 should be beholden to the preboot stories. Continuity's one of the best/worst things about cape comics because it adds weight/history to the world, but also chains the best writers stories to the worsts'. In my opinion continuity should always take a back seat to storytelling. And in a reboot like this, continuity should be left behind with the old numbering. I think DC shot themselves in the foot by not going with a clean, hard reboot across the board and that has pissed off old fans/continuity nuts to no end.

I meant in his Batman run.

As I explained before:

Dick Grayson is supposed to mirror Bruce Wayne. Him actually being part of a secret organization of assassins does not work with that basic idea, the coincidence is just stupid and it makes absolutely no sense that the almighty court of owls did not kill Bruce and take Dick then and even less that they would not kill Zucco the moment he started to extort from their front.

As for James Gordon Jr, it just feels like bad soap opera. I loved the comic book but again, the father is the police commissioner, the daughter is Batgirl and we are supposed to believe that the son was born a psychopath? They are supposed to be normal people, that is the point of Year One. It would make sense that James Jr would become a crazy supervillain, as a result of growing up in Gotham, as a rippling effect from Batman and other supervillains but that is not the case. He was born this way.

The Gordons, the Graysons and the Pennyworths and the Waynes are supposed to be normal families. Joe Chill killing the Waynes is just a mugging gone wrong in a city of crime, corruption and a few dark secrets but nothing more. What makes Batman so exceptional is the moment right after that. He decides to fight against Crime itself and then everything changes. Supervillains and superheroes start appearing as a response to what he is doing. In Year One, he is just fighting the mob. Catwoman makes her appearance because she is inspired by him and The Joker takes this form because he was traumatized by Batman when he fell into these chemicals and so on...

That is why it does not work to have Gotham always filled with supervillains. It works against the entire mythos.

This element was organic, it worked and it made Batman special. After Snyder's run, all of that will have been destroyed and for what? One good arc with surprising twists but this essential part of Batman's mythos will be gone.

And I don't "need to accept that", especially considering how much he uses continuity with this new twist. This is 100% for those "old fans/continuity nuts" that you seem to hate.

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2 hours till my shop opens

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As I said on twitter:

If you don't buy and read Batman 10, I become more powerful of a being. You don't want to make me more powerful, trust me.
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@DarthShap said:

@JonesDeini said:

@DarthShap: For once? Really? He used it pretty damn well in his Tec run. Uses it pretty well in his Swamp Thing. How do you think he's misused it in his post reboot Batman? I know some have complained about how the Court's nests don't line up with the prior continuity because of No Man's Land but I think people need to realize that this is a NEW UNIVERSE/TIME LINE/CONTINUITY and just accept that and move on. Those comics don't apply to present stories as a base anymore. Some of the elements have been used and it's nice to see that but I don't think the writers of the New 52 should be beholden to the preboot stories. Continuity's one of the best/worst things about cape comics because it adds weight/history to the world, but also chains the best writers stories to the worsts'. In my opinion continuity should always take a back seat to storytelling. And in a reboot like this, continuity should be left behind with the old numbering. I think DC shot themselves in the foot by not going with a clean, hard reboot across the board and that has pissed off old fans/continuity nuts to no end.

I meant in his Batman run.

As I explained before:

Dick Grayson is supposed to mirror Bruce Wayne. Him actually being part of a secret organization of assassins does not work with that basic idea, the coincidence is just stupid and it makes absolutely no sense that the almighty court of owls did not kill Bruce and take Dick then and even less that they would not kill Zucco the moment he started to extort from their front.

As for James Gordon Jr, it just feels like bad soap opera. I loved the comic book but again, the father is the police commissioner, the daughter is Batgirl and we are supposed to believe that the son was born a psychopath? They are supposed to be normal people, that is the point of Year One. It would make sense that James Jr would become a crazy supervillain, as a result of growing up in Gotham, as a rippling effect from Batman and other supervillains but that is not the case. He was born this way.

The Gordons, the Graysons and the Pennyworths and the Waynes are supposed to be normal families. Joe Chill killing the Waynes is just a mugging gone wrong in a city of crime, corruption and a few dark secrets but nothing more. What makes Batman so exceptional is the moment right after that. He decides to fight against Crime itself and then everything changes. Supervillains and superheroes start appearing as a response to what he is doing. In Year One, he is just fighting the mob. Catwoman makes her appearance because she is inspired by him and The Joker takes this form because he was traumatized by Batman when he fell into these chemicals and so on...

That is why it does not work to have Gotham always filled with supervillains. It works against the entire mythos.

This element was organic, it worked and it made Batman special. After Snyder's run, all of that will have been destroyed and for what? One good arc with surprising twists but this essential part of Batman's mythos will be gone.

And I don't "need to accept that", especially considering how much he uses continuity with this new twist. This is 100% for those "old fans/continuity nuts" that you seem to hate.

I don't agree with, but nor am I wholly opposed to your view on Grayson as a character. I do agree that the court not coming after Bruce when he takes their chosen one does standout as odd.

Disagree with the James Jr. thing, but then maybe I haven't seen enough soaps in my day. I thought Snyder's take on the character was great and made sense within the context of the world and it was very realistic take on the character and his psychology. Normal people give birth to criminals/psycho/sociopaths in our everyday world. Some people are simply born psychologically disturbed and it's a combination of nature and nurture that ultimately shapes us, Intrinsic and externals factors coalescing. As a psych major I appreciated his take on James. And the scenes with James/Jim were some of the best written I've read in a cape comic.

I don't think Snyder has drastically altered any of this thus far in his run. All these people/families you've listed have always been ordinary (by comic book standard) people caught up in extraordinary situations. Nothing about them as people have been broken by that.

As Snyder has not addressed the origins of Batman's career in this world I won't argue speculative claims. We don't know if his Batman's career did or didn't follow Miller's layout. Knowing his respect for Miller's work and it being one of his two favorite Batman stories I'm sure we can assume it's informed by it (like his Tec run), but nevertheless we don't know.

Once again speculative, folk. I don't see things playing out that way though. If you do, so be it.

I don't have time to dedicate to hating people I never have, nor likely will ever have, met. Particularly if it's over our disparate views of fictional characters. I love the medium and understand that we all have different levels of attachment/appreciation/understanding of it. And it's that very thing that I love about it. I'm as big a fanboy/continuity nut as anybody else depending on the context. When it comes to my X-Men comics I'm more than guilty of trying to fit everything into one plausible continuum, but even then I know that's a fool's errand, but it is nonetheless, a bit fun in a masochistic sense of the term. When it comes to the New 52, however, continuity is infinitely less important to me. I'm just letting the stories unfold, divorcing them from old ones and enjoying what's offered and judging them off their own merits. I get that stuff like Batman/Green Lantern are definitely written for longtime fans, but at the same time I'm still viewing them in the context of this new world that's being built. I appreciate the nods to old stories, but view them as altered continuations at best. I'm less concerned about the pasts of these New 52 titles and how present stories line up with them than how the present stories progress into the future. accept my philosophy or don't, end of the day both of us will sleep the sleep of the just.

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@JonesDeini said:

I don't think Snyder has drastically altered any of this thus far in his run. All these people/families you've listed have always been ordinary (by comic book standard) people caught up in extraordinary situations. Nothing about them as people have been broken by that.

As Snyder has not addressed the origins of Batman's career in this world I won't argue speculative claims. We don't know if his Batman's career did or didn't follow Miller's layout. Knowing his respect for Miller's work and it being one of his two favorite Batman stories I'm sure we can assume it's informed by it (like his Tec run), but nevertheless we don't know.

Once again speculative, folk. I don't see things playing out that way though. If you do, so be it.

What is speculative? According to Snyder, there WERE supervillains in Gotham prior to Batman's first appearance. That in itself works again this fundamental element of the mythos.

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I don't have time to dedicate to hating people I never have, nor likely will ever have, met. Particularly if it's over our disparate views of fictional characters. I love the medium and understand that we all have different levels of attachment/appreciation/understanding of it. And it's that very thing that I love about it. I'm as big a fanboy/continuity nut as anybody else depending on the context. When it comes to my X-Men comics I'm more than guilty of trying to fit everything into one plausible continuum, but even then I know that's a fool's errand, but it is nonetheless, a bit fun in a masochistic sense of the term. When it comes to the New 52, however, continuity is infinitely less important to me. I'm just letting the stories unfold, divorcing them from old ones and enjoying what's offered and judging them off their own merits. I get that stuff like Batman/Green Lantern are definitely written for longtime fans, but at the same time I'm still viewing them in the context of this new world that's being built. I appreciate the nods to old stories, but view them as altered continuations at best. I'm less concerned about the pasts of these New 52 titles and how present stories line up with them than how the present stories progress into the future. accept my philosophy or don't, end of the day both of us will sleep the sleep of the just.

I see your point. I am not really talking about past stories here. RetCons happen all the time, that is not the problem.

When I am talking about continuity here, it is mostly about the mythos and the essence of the characters.

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Man! that reveal is as huge as the one in Fight Club or Memento (as I just tweeted a couple minutes ago) What makes it the best? It's actually a double-twist! When yoou see what happens you'll be mad/happy that Snyder mucked around with your idea of who the bad guy was. Man, he's such a good writer!

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I will not spoil anything here...all I will say is...holy crap. This is why Scott Snyder is currently my favorite writer in comics. The twist was brilliant, and I can't wait to see how he ends this next month.

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@DarthShap said:

As for James Gordon Jr, it just feels like bad soap opera. I loved the comic book but again, the father is the police commissioner, the daughter is Batgirl and we are supposed to believe that the son was born a psychopath? They are supposed to be normal people, that is the point of Year One. It would make sense that James Jr would become a crazy supervillain, as a result of growing up in Gotham, as a rippling effect from Batman and other supervillains but that is not the case. He was born this way.

Re-read Detective Comics.

They said that "the fall" from Year One also could have somehow caused it.

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@InnerVenom123 said:

@DarthShap said:

As for James Gordon Jr, it just feels like bad soap opera. I loved the comic book but again, the father is the police commissioner, the daughter is Batgirl and we are supposed to believe that the son was born a psychopath? They are supposed to be normal people, that is the point of Year One. It would make sense that James Jr would become a crazy supervillain, as a result of growing up in Gotham, as a rippling effect from Batman and other supervillains but that is not the case. He was born this way.

Re-read Detective Comics.

They said that "the fall" from Year One also could have somehow caused it.

I will have to re-read my HC. However, from what you tell me, "somehow" is key here.

I can get behind enormous suspension of disbelief. Hell, I love the "one bad day" concept. But in Year One, he was just a baby.

This is just as stupid as Leia remembering how beautiful and kind but sad her mother was. ^^

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I am so glad that I managed to avoid spoilers for this....amazing issue!

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Oh my........ Oh my....... was astonishing wow wow WOW I was like "Dude he can't do that" "Oh yes he can and it's awesome" woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow

And make so much sense, this is incredibly beautiful

I love you Snyder :D

PD. MAN Bruce looks so cute as kid ^3^

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Snyder is tied with Geoff Johns as my favorite DC writer. Ingenious the way he strings you along with tiny hints along the way, and then just socks it to you all at once, making you slap your head and say "Now why didn't I see that before in that previous issue?" True genius.

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heres my reaction to reading this

a couple pages in: Oh wow..seriously..Lincoln march!? really!/ the OBVIOUS guy...laaaammmeee..

then a couple pages more: ohhhhh kkkk i did NOT see that comming.

lol

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I love twists. Certainly a change in the works.

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This issue was a brilliant, Scott Snyder proves that he's amazing.

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fantastic issue. Love the twist!

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Amazing issue, can't wait for next month!

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I never trusted "Lincoln March". But I sure didn't expect all that.

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Batman has a brother!! No way!! I hope he lives after this! I would love for him to be an occurring villain! But if he is younger than Bruce why is Bruce not Thomas Wayne Jr? Since the first born sons are typically named after the father. Oh well. Scott Snyder is da man!!

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This issue was just full of mindf###
 
Hats off to Snyder, damn brilliant.

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@mattwing87: You should use the spoiler feature man! But anyway this will make one of the coolest hardcover collected editions ever.

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So, I finally figured out the spoiler thing (took me long enough) but if you've read the issue and could help out with my last paragraph (yeah, i write too much) I'd be super psyched.

I gotta say, I wasn't exactly jazzed that they went with the whole long-lost, evil brother angle. Also, and maybe this is just because I've just become accustomed to thinking 'In Snyder We Trust', I thought the fact it was Lincoln March was also a bit predictable. Or maybe just not as surprising as I would have liked.

This isn't me exactly bashing on it. Every issue has been some of the best Batman I have ever read and I think Snyder handles it masterfully, but that's why I was a little letdown. During Hush when you found out it was Tommy Elliot, who had also been "killed," was the bad guy no one was surprised. It just gets a bit irking that whenever a new character gets panel-time, they instantly have to be the villain.

I'm not mad or anything that Bruce has a brother, it's just something I believe someone would've brought up or remembered at one point considering in the back-up story she looks to be talking to a reporter and is showing to be pregnant. Maybe that letter never makes it to Alfred, but his dad does mention it. I just feel like someone from those years ago may have said to Bruce at one time or another, "hey, did you know you were supposed to have a brother too?"

Makes so much more sense now why Capullo chose to draw him so similar to Bruce.

And again, last thing, if anyone could answer this for me I'd greatly appreciate it, I've read it a few times but I can't seem to grasp how he could have survived even a little if he was a baby in the womb (has to be at least five months in utero) in a car crash had any chance. I know, I know: comics, but still! Is that something we get more detail on next issue or what?

It's pretty ridiculous that more than half of my comment is just spoiler-heavy. Sorry, anybody who I screw things up for.

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*Spoilers* I suspected Lincoln was involved with the Court from the beginning, but then after #9 I thought he was legitimately dead, and I changed my mind about him and was sad they had killed off a potentially BAMF character so early. Then in this issue I was pretty surprised as I wasn't expecting Snyder to do a Jeph Loeb. The evil long-lost brother thing typically sounds pretty cliche and corny but I actually thought it worked well here and I've loved this arc. I'm betting that Snyder is going to do something similar to what Morrison did with Doctor Hurt and show March's likely origin but won't really confirm if it's true or not so there's still some doubt.

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SUCH AWESOMENESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It was a good issue. I don't like the idea of Bruce having a brother long term and hope the guy just turns out to be crazy. 
 
Did anyone else kinda feel robbed that Batman didn't get to confront the Court of Owls?

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I have pretty much lost interest in this story, it has gone on forever and this twist was pretty ridiculous. I love Snyder's work on Batman but it was time to move on from the Owls 4 months ago. I really hope there is another twist and the guy is just a maniac. I do love the pacing on individual scenes but this story has dragged on for almost a year and doesn't seem like it's going to end any time soon. I want to see Snyder take on other characters and situations.

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I'm a little uneasy about this.

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Still haven't read this issue yet. Will probably need to aviod this week's podcast from spoilers until I've read it.