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Avengers Vs. X-Men #11 - Round 11

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The fighting cranks up and the overall war takes a turn that will result in big repercussions in the Marvel Universe.

The Good

The comic starts off with Captain America asking an unlikely person to join their side. I have to admit, that first page where Cap's trying to sell his offer had me on the edge of my seat. I would love to see more of this character in this fight but we only have this and the next issue. It does seem that this alliance will play a big role in the Marvel NOW! atmosphere.

How long can the fighting go on? Ever since we saw the Phoenix Force bestowed upon the Phoenix Five, the instability of those in power was evident. The X-Men siding with Cyclops appeared to be following him blindly. Finally we're seeing some of the members actually thinking over what is going on. Seeing some of the characters admit they were wrong is a great way to show the characterization or humanization of them. Throughout, many of the choices were washed over. Suddenly, mutants siding with Wolverine causally jumped over to join Cyclops without much of a mention. Throw in the fact that there was so much fighting going on with random characters, these events were lost in the shuffle.

As seen on the cover, the power of the Phoenix Force is split between Cyclops and Emma Frost. That means they are each one person away from possessing the full scope of the power. If something happens to one, the last remaining will control it all.

Of course, you may have heard the big spoiler for this issue. Marvel has released the fate of one of the characters.

We get a great fight with the heroes trying to put a stop to the Phoenix Force. Seeing a final confrontation between Cyclops and Professor X was fitting. It's a great build up as they're trying to talk things out while the other heroes are around. Thankfully I got to read this before seeing the spoiler.

Even though you sort of see where this issue is going, the final pages were still a bit of a surprise. It is common sense but maybe I just never actually envisioned what it would look like. Alll of this makes you wonder how everyone is going to react to this in the Marvel Universe once this is over and Marvel NOW! begins.

The Bad

It's hard to believe it took eleven issues to get to this point. There has been great moments during this series but the series has been trying to do too many things. It comes across as a little strange when we get big action scenes and then pauses with long bouts of dialogue. The dialogue is important as this series shouldn't be random fight after fight (that's what AVX:VS. is for). Seeing a two page spread loaded with a conversation between Scott and Emma kept the suspense going a bit but you would think with so much at stake, they would get down to the action. The same goes with the attempt to talk down Cyclops.

Having so many characters involved makes the fight feel more intense and gives a sense of the importance in the Marvel Universe but unfortunately there are those fights we only get glimpses of. The action might be continued in AVX: VS or in a tie-in but by that point, we'll already know the outcome. Less characters with a closer look at the great match ups would have been preferable.

What's odd is I was fully aware that a death occurred since Cyclops attacked Emma and she turned out to still be alive. I had no idea Professor X was actually dead and didn't just get his ass kicked big time. I suppose Cyclops' reaction should make it clear but I didn't feel it fully expressed what happened.

The Verdict

For those complaining that we haven't been seeing any big outcomes or repercussions, this is the issue you've been waiting for. With only one issue left after this, the action is heating up and you can see the end is near. With the bits of information we've seen about the changes happening once Marvel NOW! begins, you can get a sense of how this series is leading up to that. There are still some unknowns that will make you want to come back for the conclusion here. Bendis is great at delivering dialogue so you know there's going to be plenty for the characters to say and Olivier Coipel's art makes this a visual treat. You can't have a comic book event like this without casualties. It's unfortunate that Marvel released a spoiler on the death but chances are word would get out regardless. The stakes have been raised. The fighting in AVENGERS VS. X-MEN just got real. You'll want to see the full battle to appreciate how it all went down.

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Can we PLEASE just put Cyclops out of his (and my) misery? And why is it another three week wait for the conclusion?

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this story just sucks. I hate it. Avengers vs X-Men should have been so much more and it fell flat in my opinion. The last 3 big events have all sucked donkey dick. The Seige, Fear Itself, and this crap. I hate events. It takes 6 months away of regular stories. just crap. Marvel needs to stop it.

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@evilvegeta74 said:

Marvel just turned Cyclops into one of the biggest villains of the decade. Everybody at Marvel should be fired to hell for all of the craziness going on in Marvel comics period over the last 10 yrs.

This.

The only purpose of AvX seems to be to demonize Cyclops and marginalize the X franchises, it's such bullshit. So all his allies and team-mates who've been basically family hate his guts and try to kill him then he casually MURDERS Professor X?? Really?!?! I guess Marvel has to sabotage the X books so they can continue to shove The Avengers down our throats.

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@tchalla3000 said:

Nope to all who call Cyclops a douche. Cyclops did what needed to be done in regards to his leadership. Can't blame him for the phoenix influence. Been an X-Men fan for years, read there stories, and the worst thing he's ever done was leave his wife and child (later on helping to raise his child, Cable, in the future with Jean. Not excusing it, just saying). His militaristic style has been praised by Cap., Namor, Magneto, Xavier, his own team, and...Wolverine(!) throughout the years, but new writers forget this. Messed up he killed Prof. X, but seriously, how is he a douche?

EXACTLY!!!!!!! Im tired of people saying he is a douche for SAVING what is left of mutantkind. It was sad to have his fellow X-Men who have fought with him for years against countless threats; The Phoenix included just turn on him without hesitation. The only argument anyone could have is that he didnt restore the mutant population, however my rebuttal to this would be how can one restore the mutant population when he is constantly be attacked from the so called 'protectors' of Earth for nothing more than doing what they (The Avengers) could not do.

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@JamDamage said:

this story just sucks. I hate it. Avengers vs X-Men should have been so much more and it fell flat in my opinion. The last 3 big events have all sucked donkey dick. The Seige, Fear Itself, and this crap. I hate events. It takes 6 months away of regular stories. just crap. Marvel needs to stop it.

ever notice how all those events were Avengers events. The X-Men events are more self contained are so much better and very well written.

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Wow, lotta hate for one side or the other. I personally think the story's gotten a lot better since it started, and would say the fallout from Cyclops's killing of Charles will contain some great story possibilities for him. He was made into a crazy person for this story, and I think we'll see some major opportunities for his character to show that this wasn't all for naught.

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Dear Marvel,

When will you stop shitting on Scott Summers?

Sincerely,

Ramier

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@tchalla3000: let me say 1000% agreed

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Ok, can I just say WOW! I love the storyline and the art. Coipel's use of space, frame and depth is just amazing! I love his art! I am so glad he penciled the 2nd half of this arc. Wish he could have done the whole series though. Ok, I am a big fan of The X-Men, hate for them to be trashed by The Avengers, but human's fate sure couldn't be decided by one dictator, especially a corrupted one. I just can't wait to see the conclusion of this arc. I hope Cyclops will redeem himself. Maybe Jean Gray will be back to save him? I would love to see her come back to the Marvel universe.

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That issue was EPIC. Just really really good. It makes me smile knowing so many people whine and gripe over this series on this website but they will still be purchasing issue 12 next month and the following issues of the epilogue series just so they can whine and gripe about it some more. Keep funding the terrible 'man' you little rebels you! I will continue to sit back and enjoy.

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Was anybody else reminded of X-Men: The Last Stand when reading the death scene?

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@X_Titans said:

I liked the issue but I can't help Xavier really thinking that Xavier served no purpose in this event but to die and even that was somewhat underwhelming. In recent years he's been made obsolete by Cyclop's superior leadership and coupled with the fact he came out of nowhere and criticised Cyclops at every turn for things he's had no part in and continues to 'warn' him to stop his 'reign of terror' makes for a death that - unlike Cable's and Nightcrawler's in Second Coming - stirred little emotion.

Also the death scene was confusing. Xavier's bottom half just glowed on then he was dead.

Agreed. Xavier has been a bit of a moral hypocrite to Scott for the better part of a decade. Quite frankly, he deserved to die. Cyclops has become a better character thanks to stepping out of everyone's shadow, and Xavier as a character can only grow after death (much like Jean's has).

The only thing I have to say on the issue of this issue is, WE STILL DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT HOPE SUMMERS.

How is she connected to some red headed randomer Bendis brought into New Avengers? Why did she have powers when she was born? How did she survive Rogue's death touch? How is she connected to the Phoenix Force? How did her defeating Bastion awaken five new mutants? How can she feel the Phoenix which was galaxies away? Why can she wield the power of the Iron Fist? WHO IS SHE?!

I thought Avengers vs. X-Men would shed some light on her. Turns out I couldn't be more wrong.

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whew!!

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lol, the big death of a character was Prof. X!?! I've been reading X-Men since the 70's and I've lost count how many times he has died, or thought to have died. Is there an official number?

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The more I think about this issue, the more annoyed I get.  First, Prof X has died a million times.  Second, Prof X has been saying over and over how he could stop Cyke, but he can't bring himself around to do it.  Turns out he can't do it.  This breaks the classic playwright law of, don't show a gun if you're not going to use it, worse than I've seen in a long time.  Third, while Cyke and the other P5 have been somewhat losing control recently, they've mostly been doing so because they've been constantly attacked.  So I don't really blame them.  Fourth, Cap is worried about Cyke losing control, but is apparently not worried about Hope losing control (since clearly their goal is for her to take the power from Cyke)?  Fifth, most of this issue was back and forth name calling and no backing it up.  Sixth, why does Cap feel the need to ask the Hulk for help in such an obeisant way?  And for that matter, why would the Hulk make much of a difference in a fight against such a foe?  Strength vs Phoenix?  Why make such a big deal out of this?  Seventh, dark Phoenix is such a boring way to deal with this.  It's so predictable I wouldn't even have predicted it.  Eighth, as I've been saying time and again, Rachel dealt with being the Phoenix perfectly fine, why can't Scott?
 
The only interesting thing I can see come out of this would be for Scott to kill himself, as Jean did.  He never really forgave her for that (even if it was really not her, just the Phoenix's clone of her), so it would be interesting if he found himself having to do the same thing.  He's been through such a wringer over the past years that dying may be the only thing that can rehabilitate him.

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