Rachel Summers is the daughter of Cyclops and Jean Grey from the alternate "Days of Future Past" timeline. She was forced to become a mutant "hound" and track other mutants before escaping to the present. Rachel has immense telekinetic and telepathic powers. Rachel was also a longtime host to the Phoenix Force.
Collaborating with a group of knowledgeable Users to get some Respect Threads for Mutant Telepaths up. And since this particular character is quite possibly my favorite as well as the reason I started reading comics. I thought I'd be the best one to take on the challenge of this thread.
Rachel Grey-Summers is the daughter of Scott Summers and Jean Grey from the Days of Future Past timeline. After attempting to use her time base psychic powers to alter the past, Rachel traveled from the future to our present to find out what went wrong. Losing memories in the process, the teenaged Rachel would be taken in by the X-Men who would make use of her psychic talents extensively while Professor X was unavailable. During a confrontation with the Beyonder Rachel was eventually revealed to be the host of the Phoenix Force and one of the most powerful mutants in existence. Founding the mutant team Excalibur she would have many adventures and face cosmic threats before time traveling to a far off future where Apocalypse ruled. She would lose the Phoenix Force and found the X-Men inspired resistance group "Clan Askani" and utilize her mutant powers over time and space to save the life of her younger brother Nathan Summers (Cable) by bringing him into the future. As "Mother Askani", Rachel would repeatedly reach through time and manipulate events even in death to orchestrate Apocalypse's defeat long before he came to power. With the Askani timeline erased, a seemingly younger Rachel was rescued by Cable from the timestream and returned to the present where she would later rejoin the X-Men. As a child of Scott Summers & Jean Grey, Rachel possesses virtually unlimited telepathic & telekinetic abilities and has repeatedly been referred to as both one of the most power minds and most powerful mutants, on the planet.
POWERS and Abilities- (While Rachel often displays a Phoenix Raptor, Energy Field, Eye Emblem and even uniform. She has only had the Phoenix Force during specific periods in her life. As such unless otherwise stated in my description I will NOT be including Phoenix Force Feats for her TK and TP abilities.)
1.Telepathy
2.Telekinesis
3.Psionic Power (Overall)
4.Time Manipulation
5.Phoenix Feats
6.Mother Askani
1. Telepathy-
Rachel Grey has been stated to possess virtually unlimited telepathic potential. Capable of scanning minds around the planet, reading, controlling and manipulating thoughts, as well as shielding minds from other powerful telepaths. She can also astral project, send messages across great distances and enter and do battle on the Astral Plane.
Raw Power - Rachel Summers has repeatedly been considered among the most powerful telepaths on Earth. During the Avengers VS X-Men conflict she commented to Charles Xavier that they were the 2 most powerful telepaths on the planet. The Shiar classified her a "9-tau-9 on the Kiatna Psi scale" shortly after the War of Kings story arc. Emma Frost implied during their battle that Rachel was more powerful then her and a psychic out burst as a teen lead Charles Xavier to compare her mental attacks to his own in power. S.H.I.E.L.D. and O*N*E files classify her threat level to be "SEVERE" and the Avengers launched a large scale operation to remove her telepathic powers from play during AvX. Following a recent confrontation with nano-sentinels and a subsequent coma, Rachel's psychic powers grew immensely, increasing her power levels to far greater heights then ever before.
O*N*E and S.H.I.E.L.D. files during the Decimation refer to her as having virtually unlimited Telepathic powers - X-Men: The 198 FilesClaims to be one of the 2 most powerful telepaths on the planet during AvX. - Wolverine and the X-Men V1 #15Compares raw strength to Emma Frost, stating that her power levels are off the charts- Uncanny X-Men v1 #452After waking from her coma Storm says that Rachel's power has increased to the point it radiates off of her and that people can feel her in their mind - X-Men Gold v1 #27A recorded message left by Xavier after his death implies Rachel to have at some point in the past (likely following New X-Men) have been the strongest telepath within the X-Men - Uncanny X-Men v3 #25Considered one of the most powerful telepaths in the world by Wolverine - Wolverine and the X-men - V1 #3
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Sense the Beyonder approaching the X-Mansion and psionically commands the X-Men and New Mutants to attack him despite their training and resistances to psychics - Secret Wars II #7Despite 100's of Betsy Braddock's in the Lavender Keep, only with Rachel's help are they able to create a circuit powerful enough to reach 616 from Otherworld - Knights of X #2Controls the minds of everyone in a 3 NYC block radius and orders them to go home - X-Men Gold #13
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When Gaunt, "the most dangerous criminal in human history" attacks Cable in his dreams using telepathic machines, Rachel is able to destroy them and free Cable despite the futuristic mutant dampeners in the area and her own additional power restraints - Cable v1 #86
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On multiple occasions has been able to penetrate Magneto's helmet to varying degrees, even implying that she can project images into Magneto's mind to guide him with only a slight decrease in his helmets defenses - X-Men Civil War II #4 / X-Men Legacy v1 #255-258
Psychic Offense: - Rachel consistently employs high level uses of her psychic powers in combat, often utilizing Psi Bolts and devastating showings of displays of raw power to overwhelm her opponents often with one attack.
Against Psychics:
Shortly after arriving in the 616 timeline a 16yr old enraged Rachel could unleash psi bolts Prof. X claimed to be as powerful as his own - Uncanny X-Men V1 #188Exchanges enough telepathic power in battle with Xavier to send debris flying - Avengers 2010 #29Able to one-shot Omega Level Mutant Telepath Quentin Quire and leave him a bloody mess for trying to penetrate her defenses. - Wolverine and the X-Men v1 #12Tanks a surprise attack from Friendless, a telepath capable of controlling and influencing 2 armies on a space colony that holds 2 billion and downs him with her own attack- X-Men Legacy 256Oneshots Psylocke shortly after downing Storm and Magik despite her being on guard.- X-Men Gold #32Charles Xavier Jr, a telepath capable of dominating multiple telepaths, while producing Psionic Constructs, controlling his teammates and combatting Teenage Jean Grey is overwhelmed by Rachel in one shot during Astral combat - X-Men: Battle of the AtomBreaks into the mind of Apocalypse and restrains him attacking Healer, forcing him to rip open his own chest in order to get her out of his head.- X of Swords part 2, X-Factor #4After being awoken by her Future self an angry Rachel overpowers and stomps teenage Omega-Level Mutant Stryfe - X-Force v5 #9
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Tortures Stryfe and nearly kills him before Cable convinces her to stop - X-Force v5 #9Resist Selenes corruption and control and defeats her with her raw psychic power - Uncanny X-Men v1 #452A young Rachel resist Selenes mind control then Psibolts Selene into a wall- Uncanny X-Men #184Prior to over extending her power, casually defeats Mesmero - X-Men: Gold #3
NON- Psychics-
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Breaks into the mind of the death god Morrigan in order to free Siryn - X-Factor v4 #8After tapping into her full power for the first time Rachel is able to destroy an entire city worth of Nano Sentinels when previously just 4 were crippling planetary telepathsDestruction of the nano sentinels - X-Men: Gold #6Able to penetrate the mental defenses of a Stormcaster enhanced Storm and make her experience her DoFP death- X-Men Gold #32Despite his psi shields having previous been impenetrable to both Jean Grey and Cable during the Revolution Era, Rachel is able to instantly mind control the D'bari Starhammer and force him to drop his dimensional device - X-Men Gold v2 Annual #1Takes out the Shiar Death Commandos around the city sent to kill her- Uncanny X-Men v1 #471Mindblast a room filled with genetically engineered Aliens from the most dangerous species in the universe while talking to her teammates - X-Men v3 #20
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Breaks through the psi-shields put into Lydia Nance's head by Sentinel Prime - X-Men Gold v2 #27Psylocke states Rachel attacks with the speed of thought - Uncanny X-Men v1 #473KO's Quicksilver with a mind blast before he can blitz her Avengers vs X-Men #2
TELEPATHIC SKILLS-
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Despite previously being stated by Emma Frost to be unable to match her do to a lack of skill, Professor Xavier notes that by AvX Rachel has improved and grown substantially as a telepath after being able to see through his illusion of Hope Summers- Avengers (2010) #29
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While battling Emma Frost, Rachel manages to reverse and counter many of her attacks despite eventually losing - Uncanny X-Men v1 #452
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With Exodus claiming to be more powerful then ever before, Rachel is still able to enter his mind to track his teleportation, shield her team from his powers, battle him on 5 different psychic fronts and eventually place mental blocks on him to block his access to his powers. - X-Men Legacy v1 #262-263Was able to engage and temporarily manipulate an above Omega-Level Mutant when a Cerebro boosted Exodus was killed attempting to read his mind - Uncanny X-Men v3 #28Projects images into reality warper Matthew Malloys mind. Uncanny X-Men v3 #28After splitting her powers with Rogue, is able to pull Friendless (a stronger telepath mindcontrolling the armies of a space station housing 2 billion people) onto the astral plane and force him to function as a supercomputer to make calculations. -X-Men Legacy V1 #258Bypasses Storm's consciousness and takes over her powers. - Uncanny X-Men v1 #459She is able pull Cyclops onto the astral plane and have a conversation in between one second and the next - Uncanny X-Men v1 #468Is instantly able to free Iceman from the mind control of Thanos' general Supergiant - New Avengers v3 #9Penetrates Xavier Jr's psychic defenses without his knowledge - X-Men: Battle of the Atom
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After Betsy is unable to reach Rogue's consciousness, Gambit recruits Rachel who is able to guide Rogue out safely despite Rachel being on Krakoa and Rogue in England - Excalibur v4 #5Senses Aurora's approach and switches the dominant personality inside her mind with one of her alternates. (Aurora at the time is able to move faster then Sound) - X-Men/Alpha Flight (1985) #1
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Despite giving Rogue a portion of her power to deal with a confused and possessed Betsy Braddock, Rachel is able to casually enter Polaris' mind and free her from the Morrigan's hypnosis - X-Factor v4 #7
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After finding out Storm has been arrested, Rachel locates Storm and projects her consciousness to the X-Mansion to communicate with her. - Storm #10Translates and Projects a mental message that Kitty was receiving from Magik - Uncanny X-Men #195After being brainwashed by Saurians she blocks Bishop and Nightcrawler from accessing their powers despite Bishop being able to absorb psychic energy- Uncanny X-Men v1 #458
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With encouragement from Teen Cyclops, Rachel is able to break free of Mesmero's influence. - X-Men Gold #32
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Rachel Breaks free of Selene's mindcontrol and then uses the link with her to travel into Magma's mind and help to free her from Selene's control as well. - Uncanny X-Men v1 #189
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After a surprise attack she breaks free of Selene's control and frees Paul, Selene's puppet- Uncanny X-Men v1 #452
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Helps to rebuild Wolverine's mental defenses and teaches him new ways of blocking mental attacks. - Wolverine v2 #304
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Teaches Teenage Jean Grey to put up defenses that can block Xavier Jr and Xorna's attacks and also presumably how to block Xavier Jr's Future Cerebro - X-Men v4 #5
Cloaking/Illusions
A young Rachel is able to shield herself from Xavier's Psi-scans - Uncanny X-Men V1 #188Able to block Charles Xavier from sensing Phoenix Namor presence, despite not knowing he was assisting the Avengers. Xavier warns that Rachel is as much of a threat as he is - Avengers 2010 #29After Emma downloads the knowledge into her mind, Rachel is able to totally block the perceptions of a gala so that none can see or hear her. - Uncanny X-Men v1 #452Helped create new mental barriers in Wolverine's mind that block him from being tracked by telepaths. - Wolverine v2 #305Alters perceptions of a crowded nightclub to disguise the X-Men as police officers Uncanny X-Men 453Blocks the perceptions of a large mass of people to make the X-Men appear to have vanished - Uncanny X-Men v1 #200
Sensing/Tracking:
As a former hound Rachel is especially adept at searching for and tracking psionic signals.Was considered to be the best of all the hounds at tracking mutants- Uncanny X-Men V1- #189While in Nevada, tracks Colossus' mind to Antarctica over 9000miles away - X-Men Gold v2 #27Can track Nightcrawlers mind even as he teleports despite him crossing through dimensions as he does. - X-Men/Alpha Flight v1 #2
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Is able to sense Darwin's consciousness hidden in energy form deep inside of Vulcan and separate them - X-Men Deadly Genesis #4Scans for organic energy signatures of the Fenris twins - Uncanny X-Men #200Tracks Wolverines teleports by scanning for people reacting to him- Wolverine v3 #25Tracks Wolverine from Madripor through his anger and can sense remnants of his dreams on his pillow - Wolverine and the X-Men v1 #13
TELEPATHIC RANGE
Astral Projects self from Shiar space to Earth- X-Men Legacy #248
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Despite hundreds of versions of Betsy Braddock from across the multiverse being available, only with Rachel's help can the Captain Britain Corps reach 616 Krakoa from Otherworld - Knights of X #2Scans the entire planet for the Hellfire Club counting and categorizing them by activity....cataloging almost 3 billion separate minds - Wolverine and the X-Men v1 #32From her couch on Krakoa, Rachel scans the entire planet for Stryfe - Cable V4 #9Communicates with Iceman on Wundagore mountain from Wakanda - Wolverine and the X-Men #10Reads the mind of a Shiar Captain on a ship in Earths orbit. - Uncanny X-Men v1 #471Astral projects from the X-Mansion in NY to her therapist in Chicago - Uncanny X-Men v1 #472
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From the Mansion in Salem, New York; Rachel senses a mutants cries as they are being hunted and killed in Virginia despite being asleep. - Marvel Knights: X-Men #1Projects images from Iceman's mind into her teammate's minds from hundreds of miles away - X-Men Gold #27
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Casually scans Philadelphia and locates the mutant cult that kidnapped 6 mutant babies despite it's members having psi-shields installed by Stryfe - Cable v4 #7
2. Telekinesis-
Rachel is stated to have unlimited telekinetic abilities with many molecular level telekinetic feats as well as many powerful shielding, Energy blast, lifting and crushing feats. While recent depictions showcase her using Telepathy and Psi weapons, she has favored raw power and short shows of strength when angered or spurred into quick actions.
Raw Strength:
O.N.E. and SHEILD files from the Decimation Era describe her as having virtually unlimited Telekinetic powers - X-Men: The 198 Files #1While her brother Cable is fighting the Silver Surfer his floating city Providence begins to fall and Rachel catches it with her TK. - Cable & Deadpool v1 #1oThe City Providence.To contain the Fury and stop it from regenerating she crushes the molecules around it in order to create a micro blackhole. - Uncanny X-Men v1 #447Able to block a hit and then floor Thor while also attempting to enter his mind -Wolverine and the X-Men V1 #12Kills Black Cloak, the leader of the Shiar Death Commandos who was strong enough to toss around and defeat a Bloodlusted Gladiator, by blowing up his head. War of Kings #5After being mind controlled by Cassandra Nova, a rage amped Rachel punches her hard enough to break through her TK shield...Nova's shield has taken hits from Gladiator - X-Men Red v1 #9Restrains Terrax so that Storm and attack him-X-Men Gold V2 #1KO's Black Cloak, a Death Commando strong enough to over power Gladiator Uncanny X-Men v1 468
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By adding the psychic energy of a wounded Psylocke and Monet to her own she lifts an entire underground cave system above ground - X-Men v3 #25 - #26Despite Phoenix Blade enhanced Korvus being able to deflect and counter attacks from Polaris and Havok, Rachel is able to blast him off of his feet and across the room. - Uncanny X-Men v1 #479
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Knocks out Terrax the Tamer- X-Men Gold v2 #1A young Rachel rips apart Days of future past Reed Richards and Thing - X-Men Days of Future Past- Doomsday #3KO's 2 Wendigo's beings that were giving Colossus and Sasquatch trouble- Amazing X-Men v2 #12After freeing her self from her own mind, Rachel wakes up and incinerates Stryfe's psychics as well as most of his lab - X-Force v5 #9
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Repeatedly defeats the Warskrull Flaw sent by the Shiar Death Commando's to kill her, despite him giving difficulty to Psylocke, Bishop, Colosus, Havok and Hope Summers at various points. - Uncanny X-Men v1 #469Nearly kills War Skrull Flaw - Wolverine and the X-Men v1 #13Destroys a tree taking out Bishop and several Savagelanders despite Bishop's ability to absorb psychic energy- Uncanny X-Men v1 #458Rips apart several Brood SuperSkrull hybrids that were overwhelming her team. - X-Men v4 #22 Despite being exhausted from fighting a town of people turned into Wendigo she restrains and disables 3 of them- Amazing X-Men v2#12After Snowbird runs in fear of her, a rage amped Rachel attacks Alpha Flight, restraining Shaman and turning his medicine pack against them- X-Men / Alpha Flight (1985) # 1Catches a falling building - Cable & Deadpool v1 #10
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After Black Tom knocks a building down on a crowd of people a young Rachel destroys the falling rubble - Marvel Team-Up (1972) #150Collapses a construction building on top of the X-Men, Nimrod and Juggernaut while shielding the X-Men from the debris - Uncanny X-Men v1 # 194
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Lifts over 20ft of debris into the sky in order to help rescue buried civilians - Civil War (2006) #1After Bishop puts his hands into a possessed Rachel's phased form, Rachel overloads and overpowers him despite his ability to drain psychic energy- X-treme X-Men v1 #44One-Shots Mojo's army - X-factor v3 #2Young Rachel lashes out with TK after a psychic attack and destroy Xavier's office sending him and Magneto throught the roof and putting multiple holes in the room. - Uncanny X-Men v1 #196Disperses Morgan Le Fay's astral form a TK punch - Betsy Braddock Captain Britain #2Blast Wolverine through the armored doors of Cerebro - Wolverine v3 #23
Molecular+ Telekinesis: Rachel has been established since she entered the 616 to be a molecular level telekinetic able to rearrange, dismantle and manipulate molecules at will. Something even the strongest telekinetics can't do. She's been shown to sometimes consciously and subconsciously change her clothing and appearance. She has also been shown to weaponize this ability into a powerful blast.
After being manipulated into believing she was a Saurian, she subconsciously alters her own DNA with telekinesis eventually taking on a full reptilian appearance- Uncanny X-Men v1 #457Uses molecular level telekinesis to defeat a Warskrull in a single shot despite Havok's blast previously having super charged it's forcefield. - Uncanny X-Men v1 #478Phases her hand into the skull of Gambit- X-Treme X-Men v1 #42While corrupted by Bogan, Rachel cross polarized her molecular valences to disrupt Kitty's phasing - X-Treme X-Men V1 #44Locks onto the molecules of a phasing Kitty Pryde- X-Treme X-Men v3 #5Changes her and Psylocke's clothing - Uncanny X-Men v1 #463Senses Kitty being attacked and subconsciously changes from her street clothes to her Hound uniform for the first time. - Uncanny X-Men v1#196After saving Kitty she changes back. - Uncanny X-Men v1#196Changes the X-Men's Uniforms into their Civilian clothes - Uncanny X-Men v1#189Transforms her civilian clothes into her new costume - X-Men Gold v2, Annual #1Phases to avoid an attack from a super charged Bishop - X-treme X-Men v1 #41
Shields: Rachel can create powerful Psi-Shields that can withstand explosives, energy blast and even orbital bombardment.
Resist Jovian Atmospheric pressure with TK shield- Uncanny X-Men v1#449Blocks Thor's Hammer. - Avengers (2010) #29Links TK with Psylocke's in order shield Chicago from a Shiar orbital strike. They then reflect the energy beam back into orbit to destroy the ship. - Uncanny X-Men v1#471Power of the blast estimated to wipe out everything within 100miles - Uncanny X-Men 471
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Together with Psylocke, shields her team from Omega Sentinel's blast that was channeling the power of all Sentienls in the area. The damage was so great it destroyed a large portion of Captain Britains kingdom despite being miles away- Uncanny X-Men 465Passive TK shields take surprise attack from Mojo's sentinels - X-Men Blue #13Blocks a surprise attack from a Wendigo enhanced Sasquatch who has brawled with Hulk in the past - Amazing X-Men v2 #12Telekinetic field protects her from a hit that sent her over fly over 300miles from the Braddock Manor in Maldon England to the Indian Ocean. - Uncanny X-Men v1 #445Supports the weight of a cave-in that destroyed an underground village - X-Men/Alpha Flight (1985) #2- Quickly creates a shield to protect civilians from an airships weapons- Uncanny X-Men v1 -444
Speed:
Stops bullet fired at point blank range. - X-Men: Gold #7-X-Men: Gold #7Turns bullet fired at her and sends it back at the shooter. - Uncanny X-Men v1 - 196Able to react to Magneto's attacks when he began targeting speedsters Quicksilver and Northstar - Trial of Magneto #2Stops a bloodlusted Deathbird mid strike - X-Men v4 #21Redirects Teen Cyclops' Optic Blast and restrains him before he can tag her - X-Men Gold v2 #32
OTHER:
As a young teen, Rachel completely dismantles the armor of DoFP Iron Monger - X-Men: Days of Future Past - Doomsday #1 Seals a hole ripped in a space station by a missile - X-Men Legacy v1 #256Reflects Captain America's shield with enough force to send him flying over Giant-Man - Wolverine and the X-Men v1 #12
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Seals the tear in reality caused by the Scarlet Witch's Chaos Wave during House of M - Uncanny X-Men 465Pushes aliens back with Tk wall. - X-Men v4 #21Lifts up and then dismantles a tank telekinetically - Uncanny X-Men v1 #475After reading Reed Richard's mind, She telekinetically dismantles a Terraforming device Wolverine was using as a bomb. - Wolverine v3 #25
3. Psionic Power (Overall):
Rachel from a young age possessed incredible psychic powers and at several points has been stated by herself or others to be one of Earth's most power psionics and mutants in general.
O*N*E & S.H.I.E.L.D. files state that Rachel has virtually unlimited telepathic powers. A phrase usually reserved for Omega Level Mutants of the time.- X-Men: The 198Raw Power: Data books from the Early 2000's state that the upper limits of Rachel's telepathic and telekinetic powers are unknown.Raw Power: Rachel considers herself to be one of the most powerful Mutants on the planet - Wolverine (2003) #30RAW POWER: Shiar sensors can detect her presence because of how powerful her psionic energy registers - X-Men Legacy v1 #254
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Raw Power- After repeated encounters with the Beyonder where she is able to sense his presence and even link minds with him, the Beyonder begins to observe her powers and states that she is potentially the closest person on the planet to what he is. - Secret Wars II #1, New Mutants v1 #30, Uncanny X-Men v1 #196Despite Rachel being severely weakened and malnourished Selene senses more power in her then she's sensed since the dawn of her existence (Selene was born more then 17,000 years ago) - Uncanny X-Men v1 184Raw Power: After extending her powers and later falling into a brief coma, Rachel states that all of her psycic powers and senses have increased - X-Men Gold v2 #21RAW POWER- Sanzu, who has the ability to absorb souls, powers and life force is instantly overwhelmed when trying to absorb the powers of a distracted Rachel - X-Treme X-Men v3 #3
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Raw Power- During AvX the Avengers declared her a major target, dedicating a team including Thor, Ironman, Quicksilver, Wolverine and Professor X among others to an ambush in order to capture or otherwise remove her from the conflict - Avengers v4 #29Raw Power: Cuts Mojo's creatures off from the mental energy of his viewership, and then uses the power to attack them.- X-Men Blue #15
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RAW POWER- Expunges the astral ghost of Ogun from existence - X-treme X-Men v3 #5
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Raw Power: After sensing Cyclops in danger, Rachel receives a Psi-Flash that causes her to lose control of her powers, subconsciously taking over the danger rooms systems and recreating images and situations from her past. Even after Kitty destroys the computer Rachel's abilities force the simulation to continue until Xavier intervenes and directs her thoughts. - X-Men/Alpha Flight (1985) #1
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Weapons: Can create and generate Psionic weapons, some of these powerful enough to knock down Thor.
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Psionic Awareness- Repeatedly able to sense and detect the presence of reality warper Jamie Braddock as he formed an unknown link between her and the newly resurrected Psylocke - Uncanny X-Men 444, 464
Various Psionic Abilities-
Psionic Illusions: Reveals that she is almost constantly psychically masking all or most of her Hound marks. They only reveal themselves when she is critically wounded or enraged - X-Men SchismPsychometry/Tracking: Tracks Wolverine to Madripor and senses his dreams and thoughts from a pillow he had slept on -Wolverine and the X-Men V1 #12
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Psychometry: Uses Aunt May's wedding ring to help Spider-man find out what happened to her and who may have taken her. Manages to find out things about May's personality and last moments just from connecting to the ring. - Marvel Knights Spider-man #6Psionic Constructs: Leaves a psionic message behind for Wolverine in Harry's hideaway that triggered when he approached itPsychometry / Telekinesis: Reconstructs a 2000 year old castle from rubble based on the grounds memories of the original timeline. - Uncanny X-Men: House of M.
Psychic Links
Rachel forged a mindlink with Cable when she first met him as a baby so she would always know when he was in danger. - Excalibur v1 #6
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Rachel's Psi Link with Cable goes both ways and she is able to even connect to the A.I. in his arm. Their connection is so strong that they could feel it even when Cable's mind was considered out of reach of the other telepaths of the era - Excalibur v1 #71 / Cable v1 #9Psychic Links- Rachel has on occasion been able to link to and connect to with Cyclops when he is in extreme danger- X-Men/ Alpha Flight #1
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Rachel possess a psychic link with the older Kate Pryde from Earth 811 who took care of her following the death of the X-Men - Excalibur v1 #67
4. Time Manipulation-
Since her first appearance Rachel has displayed the ability to send minds forwards and backwards through time. While this ability has not been used in some time, it has most commonly been shown through her Chronoskimming ability. Rachel has stated that without the Phoenix force to protect them it's difficult to bring bodies through time, but after learning to "manuever through time" from the Phoenix Force she was able to travel with herself and Cable across time without restriction.
TIME / DIMENSIONAL TRAVEL-
A post hypnotic suggestion put into her mind by DoFP Kitty and the Phoenix force triggers her powers and sends her to the 616 - Uncanny X-Men v1 #192In her first meeting with Cable she avoids a rock slide by traveling 10 seconds into the future. (Has Phoenix at this point) - Excalibur v1 #71Travels from 2 billion years in the future back to the Present by going further into the future first. (Despite the costume and flaming hair, it's explained that she has lost the Phoenix at this point.) - Cable v1 #86
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From outside time and space, Rachel teleports the X-Men from the past of a destroyed timeline back to the White Hot Room. - Dead X-Men v1 #1Uses her powers to open a portal too and from Jamie Braddocks pocket dimension - Betsy Braddock Captain Britain #5
CHRONOSKIMMING- Rachel has the ability to pull minds forward and backwards through time as well as send messages and view events along the timestream.
Sends Adult DoFP Kitty's mind back in time to 14 year old 616 Kitty Pryde's body - X-Men v1 #141Sends a call for help to Cable from 2 Billion years in the future - Cable v1 #82As Mother Askani, Rachel pulls Scott and Jean's minds 2000 years into the future to raise and train a baby Cable. - The Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix #1Scans the entire multiverse for an untested variant of Betsy Braddock that may possess the potential to become a Captain Britain - Betsy Braddock: Captain Britain #2
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Rachel connects to and views the timelines of multiple versions of Gambit from around the multiverse in order to track down 616 Gambit within the Siege Perilous - Knights of X #5
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Uses chronoskimming to Astral Project from Earth 811 to Earth 616 and learns that she had sent Kate Pryde to the wrong past. - Excalibur v1 #52
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Rachel travel's through "Rockslide's" personal timeline to see whether or not he is the real Rockslide. - X-Factor v3 #5
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Rachel telepathically observes Aurora's last moments using her chronoskimming ability, combining it with psychometry to ensure she zeroes in on the right moment. - X-Factor v3 #1
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Uses chronoskimming to observe the moments leading up to the Scarlet Witch's death - X-Men Trial of MagnetoUses Chronoskimming to scan the multiverse for Morgan Le Fay- Betsy Braddock: Captain Britain v1 #3
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From outside of time and space, Rachel communicates with the X-Men in the White Hot Room using the image of a burning bush- Dead X-Men v1 #1
THE SACRED TIMELINE-
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Rachel can use her chronoskimming to access the Sacred Library. A place where she has/will gather the individual memories/ experiences of everyone in the multiverse. - Betsy Braddock Captain Britain v1 #4
4th Dimensional Pulse: Rachel emits a Fourth Dimensional Temporal Shield that makes her an sometimes those around her resistant or completely immune to alterations to reality and the timeline.
When the multiverse begins to compress into one, Rachel learns that when not using the Phoenix force, she subconsciously emits a 4th dimensional pulse that protects herself and Excalibur from being effected by the anomalies as reality collapses around them. - Excalibur v1 #50
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When the Scarlet Witch warped reality during House of M Rachel is initially unaffected by the spell as reality is warped around her. Only later after Jamie Braddock again warps reality and pulls her out of the White Hot Room to assist with the Chaos Wave is she effected by the shift - Uncanny X-Men v1 #462
Temporal Uniqueness: Do to some unknown ability (possibly her connection to Phoenix or her own Time Related abilities) Rachel is unique in the multi-verse.
During House of M. Rachel's uniqueness allowed her to be shifted into the White Hot Room where all realities intersect. She however is only able to see versions of her from different points in her life instead of alternate universe variations. - Uncanny X-Men v1 #462Rachel is considered unique in the multiverse even among Phoenix Host. - Excalibur: XX Crossing
Other Temporal Powers: On at least 2 occasions with and without the Phoenix Force Rachel has been pulled into the White Hot Room outside of time.
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During House of M, Rachel is pulled into the White Hot Room in order to avoid the spell and is only later pulled out by Jamie Braddock. - Uncanny X-Men 462Rachel can use her temporal powers to pull Phoenix Fire from the multiverse powerful enough to destroy a Fury. - Betsy Braddock: Captain Britain #1After being poisoned and dying 2000 years in the Future. Rachel meets with her Past and Future selves before using the Phoenix Force to Resurrect herself. - X-Men: Phoenix #3
5. PHOENIX FORCE-
Rachel is a former, and one of the longest lasting, host of the Phoenix Force. Having found her time traveling astral form after the events of DoFP the Phoenix would follow and lay dormant inside of Rachel for a time. After bringing her to this world the Force's power would be ignited by Rachel coming into contact with the essence of Phoenix Jean Grey. Rachel's power as Phoenix would continue to grow during encounters with Shadow King, Galactus and the Beyonder. After a battle with the sorcerer Necrom and his ancient fragment of the Phoenix Force Rachel would die and be resurrected by the Force and given access to it's full power.
With the power of the Phoenix Rachel can fly through space, open portals across vast distances, manipulate cosmic energy, and sense the fundamental powers of the multiverse. The Force also increases her natural mutant powers allowing her even stronger telepathy and telekinesis, while ampifying her Time Traveling abilities to the point she can traverse realities as well as time and space unaided.
Awakens the power of the Phoenix Force by bonding with Jean's essence left behind in the Grey's holo empathetic crystal - Uncanny X-Men v1 201After awakening the power of the Phoenix Force, she tracks down and unleashes an immense crash of power in an attempt to kill the Beyonder - Uncanny X-Men v1 #202Gathers the life essence of the X-Men and the Starjammers to unleash a Neutron Blackhole in the M'Krann Crystal - Uncanny X-Men v1 #203The Beyonder attempts to retake the powers he gave to Rachel but is overwhelmed by her. - Uncanny X-Men v1 #203After her psychic blocks are blown, she is able to hear the entire world's pain - Heroes for Hope #1
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After sensing Earth- 597 Xavier's experiments that drained and merged psychic essences Phoenix Rachel subconsciously merges Earth 616 and Earth 597 into one reality. - Excalibur Weird War III
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Rachel forges a mental link with Excalibur that frees them Earth 597 Red Skull's control and then uses the team to destroy 597 Xavier's mind. - Weird War IIIDestroys the mind of Earth 597 Red Skull - Weird War IIIAfter Mastermind tricks her into letting him tap into the Phoenix Force by pretending to be Franklin Richards Rachel lashes out at him. - Excalibur v1 #26Steals back the Phoenix power Mastermind was given and leaves him in a coma. - Excalibur v1 #26
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Overwhelms and kills Tral, an Inhuman who had ruled his version of Earth for over 600 years using mind control - ClanDestine v2 #5
Telekinesis / Phoenix Cloak-
Stops a speeding subway train - Excalibur v1 #2Restrains Captain Britain against his will - Excalibur v1 #4The merged Earth 616 and Earth 597 Psylocke is overwhelmed by Phoenix's mind before Rachel oneshots her- Excalibur: Weird War III
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Senses her baby brother Cable's fear during the Inferno arc and flies from England to New York to save him - Excalibur v1 #6Shields Excalibur from a mini nuke before being teleported away by a device feeding on her powers - Excalibur v1 #11Despite powering multiple trips across dimensions Rachel returns home to the 616 to find Galactus and his Herald waiting for her - Excalibur v1 #25When Nova returns from the moon at Full speed, Rachel catches her and throws her at Galactus knocking him down despite her power levels being depleted from powering Excalibur's return to the 616 universe - Excalibur v1 #25Opens a Stargate during her fight with Necron (who is in control of a dark version of the Phoenix Force) to a dead part of the Universe. - Excalibur v1 #50Hits Necron deep into a Planet and then takes Magma from the planets core. - Exaclibur v1 #50
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Battles Necrom throughout a dead solar system, throwing asteroids and moons at eachother. Rachel eventually tanks the creation of a sun in front of her and then the destruction of said sun. - Excalibur v1 #50Overloads Necron by giving him the full power of the Phoenix while reuniting the Phoenix Force with the Anti-Phoenix for the first time in thousands of years - Excalibur v1 #50
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The newly reunited Phoenix Force, in control of Rachel's body battles and defeats Galactus destroying a planet in the process - Excalibur v1 #61The Phoenix Force gives up it's consciousness leaving Rachel with all of it's full power.- Excalibur v1 #64
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Uses the Phoenix to boost her powers and bring Excalibur to the DoFP timeline after hearing a cry from Earth - 811 Kate Pryde. - Excalibur v1 #66KO's Cable with a Psiblast despite his defenses and senses their connection. - Excalibur v1 #71
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Overwhelms an elemental being attempting to transform her into a demon by soaking through her skin. Destroys part of a castle in the process.- Excalibur v1 #12
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Shields Excalibur from the remains of a collapsing Castle - Excalibur v1 #12
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Despite being drained by Widget to travel across realities Rachel creates Phoenix Cocoons to protect Excalibur from a thousand foot tidal wave and put them into stasis. - Excalibur v2 #14While awakening from her cocoon Rachel pverloads and destroys the stasis fields of an alternate Reed Richards, destroying the top floors of the Baxter building in the process. - Excalibur v1 #14Stops Excalibur's train from falling out of a building after it enters a new reality despite having her energy drained by Widget whenever Excalibur crosses realities- Excalibur v1 #23After being recharged by their universes version Betsy Braddock, Rachel is able to overwhelm an alternate universe version of Magik's Darkchylde persona and strip her of her demonic powers. - Excalibur v1 #23Opal Luna Saturnyne considers the Phoenix's powers to be a threat to all of reality - Excalibur v1 #24
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Tosses around Alfie O'Meagan, a reality warper who had created his own world and given himself the powers of Galactus - Excalibur v1 #27Nearly kills the reality warper Alfie Omeagan and destroys all of his universes Washington DC before the universe is erased and she is returned home - Excalibur v1 #27
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Contains the energy of a nuclear power cell that had been damaged in a fight- Excalibur v1 #36
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While battling D'Spayre after he'd drained a city Rachel is initially drained for her "cosmic level despair" before having her hope reignited by a young girl and uses it to free herself and defeat him- Excalibur v1 #35
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After Dr. Doom splits the heart of Otherplace with the Soulsword, Rachel uses telekinesis to hold the heart and the entire dimension together - Excalibur v1 #39
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Drains Sienna Blaze's powers to recharge the Phoenix force after Rachel had exhausted herself repairing the planets ecosystem from all the damage Blaze had done to it with her powers. - Excalibur v1 #74One-Shots Captain Britain with a mindblast - Excalibur v1 #20
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Clashes on equal footing with Adult Franklin Richards and overpowers him despite him having been draining her powers since he arrived in the 616 timeline. - Days of Future Present #1
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Quickly overpowers and restrains Selene, nearly killing her before Wolverine intervenes - Uncanny X-Men v1 #207Reconstructs Cyclops and Sue Storm on a genetic level after Ahab had their genes and minds altered and twisted into hounds using instinct and a story she once heard about Jean- Days of Future PresentRachel turns Sienna Blaze's electromagnetic energy to Phoenix energy - Excalibur v1 #74Reverses Mojo's body modifications to Rita Wayword that turned her into his interdimensional hunter - Excalibur Mojo Mayhem
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During an encounter with Mordered the Mystic, Rachel is controlled and commanded to rip open a hole in reality so that Mordred can break through from his side. During repeated attempts to stop her Quasar is overwhelmed by Rachel's power levels. - Quasar #11
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Overwhelms the mind of the Ironman of Earth 2122 who had spent years preparing to face the Shadow King and his universes Jean Grey - Excalibur v1 #22Drains powers from the Days of Future Past Sentinels containment field in order to escape - Excalibur v1 #67
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Breaks through the mental defenses of the Hierarchy, the lead sentinel program in the DoFP timeline and uses it to reprogram all of the sentinels linked to it to protect all life - Excalibur v1 #67After using her powers to switch places with a time lost Captain Britain, Rachel emerges 2000 years in the future and immediately destroys a group of Apocalypse' soldiers - X-Men: Phoenix #1Can sense the latent Telepathy in a young Blaquesmith despite technology 2000 years in the future reading him as normal - X-Men Phoenix #1The Plague, a mutant who releases a poisonous disease is purified by Rachel - X-Men Phoenix #3After being overwhelmed by poison, uses the Phoenix's power to resurrect herself - X-Men Phoenix v1 #3While fighting Nero (Apocalypse's second in command and power stealing vampire) Rachel has a vision of the future and sends all of the Phoenix Force into Nero and overloads her before Rachel saves her by setting the Phoenix Force free. - X-Men Phoenix # 4Rachel reveals that while she was releasing the Phoenix Force she used it's power to turn Nero human- X-Men Phoenix #4
PHOENIX ECHO: While in space pursuing the Omega Level mutant Vulcan, Rachel encounters a Echo of the Phoenix Force trapped in the weapon of a former Phoenix Force Host. After gaining it's power Rachel notes that it's less powerful, but easier to control then the Fully Powered Phoenix Force. She would eventually lose this power when the Phoenix began recalling it's pieces to the White Hot Room.
Blocks the Phoenix blade. And absorbs it's powers do to the Phoenix's affinity for her.- Uncanny X-Men v1 #479Takes a surprise attack from Gladiator- X-Men: Emperor Vulcan #5Fights Gladiator to a standstill - X-Men: Emperor Vulcan #5 After Korvus is injured Rachel races toward him knocking Gladiator back in the process - X-Men: Emperor Vulcan #5Outruns Gladiator while carrying Lilandra- X-Men Kingbreaker #2Wipes out the Shiar Death Commandos instantly when they come between her and the Shiar leader responsible for the death of the entire Grey family - X-Men: Emperor Vulcan #3Takes out a fleets worth of missiles that were targeting the Starjammer- X-Men: Kingbreaker #1Destroys several ships in the Shiar orbital fleet- X-Men Kingbreaker #1Shields from defense ships while Lilandra and Rook'shir make their escape- X-Men Kingbreaker #1Astral Projects across a solar system to communicate with enemies of the Shiar - X-Men: Emperor Vulcan #2Destroys a fleet of Starships- X-Men Kingbreaker #1Dismantles the Shiar implant in Korvus' brain that was designed to explode if he disobeyed the Shiar- Uncanny X-Men v1 #479Rips apart several Shiar soldiers with a gesture. - Uncanny X-Men v1 484Uses molecular telekinesis to move the atmosphere surrounding Vulcan's attack - Uncanny X-Men v1 #486Blitzes Xenith, Gladiators cousin who is his equal in strength- X-Men King Breaker #2
Mother Askani is a future version of Rachel Summers. In order to save the life of Brian Braddock who was lost outside of time, Rachel used her ability to travel through time along with the powers of the Phoenix in order to switch places with the lost Brian. Rachel would be lost in the time stream for sometime before arriving 2000 years in the future where Apocalypse had taken over the planet. Rachel would begin a rebel movement based around the teachings of the X-Men which would become known as Clan Askani. After giving up the Phoenix Force in battle with one of Apocalypse's Generals, Rachel would have a vision of her brother Nathan Summers one day defeating Apocalypse. To help this future come to pass Rachel took the mantle of Mother Askani and prepared her forces for the arrival of Cable over 100 years later.
After bringing baby Nathan to the future to cure his techno-organic virus and then bringing the minds of Scott & Jean Summers to the future to raise and protect him, Mother Askani fell into a 12 year coma do to injuries suffered fighting Apocalypse's forces. Despite her coma Rachel was able to keep Scott & Jean linked to the future for over 10 years until her death.
Despite her death Mother Askani continued to exist outside of time & space. She would frequently respond to the calls of Cable and members of the Askani clan in both the past and future and continue to shape the events of Cable's life and the battle against Apocalypse from outside of time.
With Apocalypse's death and failure to gain the power of "The 12" in the present that would allow him to conquer the world, the future timeline was erased and Rachel would become lost in the timestream. Cable would rescue the now teenage Rachel and return her to the present with only vague memories of her life in the erased future as Mother Askani.
Rachel of the current time would eventually encounter Mother Askani who hinted that Rachel's destiny may still be to one day become a version of her. Something which Rachel eventually does as she begins to embrace her temporal powers and takes on the name Askani.
Telekinesis-
Despite suffering a massive wound from a surprise attack, Mother Askani utterly destroys Apocalypse's elite forces with a wave of her hand. - Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix #1Breaks free of Sanctity's psychic restraints. - Uncanny X-Men v1 #-1
Telepathy-
While in a coma Reaches out to a 12 year old Cable to let him know about his powers and destiny to fight Apocalypse - Adventure of Cyclops and Phoenix #4
Phoenix Residue-
Despite losing the Phoenix force 80 years prior, Mother Askani possessed some residue of it before her *death*. She uses up the last of it to turn Cyclops and Jean Grey's borrowed human bodies into mutants with their original powers, though the effort causes her to slip into a coma from her injuries.
Uses the last traces of the Phoenix in her to turn Scott and Jean's human bodies into mutants. - Adventures of Cyclops & Phoenix #1
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Taps into her Phoenix residue to create psychic fire - Uncanny X-Men v1 #-1States that with a fully powered Cable they would be able to defeat the future version of Apocalypse that had conquered the world - Adventures of Cyclops and Phoenix v1 #1
Various Psionic/Temporal/Spiritual/Reality Warping Powers-
Mother Askani possessed incredible psionic abilities able to telepathically reach out across time and space. She also could send the physical bodies of herself and other through time. After her death she repeatedly refers to herself as existing on "another plane of existence" and appears to be unrestricted by time and space as well as having a spiritual connection to her followers across even the multiverse.
Cloaks her presence from Sanctity while locking down her fathers mind. Sanctity reveals that Rachel trained her in both psionics and chronal abilities and that she doesn't stand a chance in a fight against her.- Uncanny X-Men v1 #-1Returns herself and Sanctity 2 thousand years into the future - Uncanny X-Men v1 #-1Despite having died in the future long before this point, Blaquesmith and other Askani followers are able to reach out to her spirit despite being over 2000yrs in the past - Cable v1 #23
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Appears to her brother Cable in the present as an "astral ghost" and gives him knowledge from the future of who Apocalypse's "12" are. - Cable v1 #65Returns to the past in astral form to prepare Cable for his coming fight with Apocalypse - Cable v1 #71Tells Cable she can't help him because she no longer belongs to the same plane of existence - Cable v1 #71Pulls Cable through time and space to the Days of Future past timeline so that he can see how the alternate version of X-Force died and steel his resolve for the coming fight. - Cable v1 #71
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After Rachel is pulled into the future and is mind controlled by Stryfe's Cronen in order to lure out the Askani Clan; Mother Askani's spirit reaches out to help her fight back and free herself. - X-Force v5 #9Mother Askani reveals to Rachel Grey that as long as the Askani Clan survives so will she. She also hints that Rachel will still one day become her, despite changes in the timeline that should've prevented it.- X-Force v5 #9
@cattlebattle: You know Cattle. As someone else who I know on some level appreciates Rachel. You'd think you'd be more supportive of my attempts at celebrating her and trying to give some insight into her character.
@cattlebattle: @koays: He doesn’t always have something to contribute. It’s either post a comment similar to the one he just posted, or just say moo every hour or so.
Although I would not call the interaction with Quire as a one-shot, they were clearly going through stuff that we were just not shown. Not that it makes it any less impressive, just would not call it a one-shot haha.
@marvelfan1992: The first scan is TP bolts to me because it's the only time that issue we get those lines during her attack. She's not damaging anyone physically or pushing anyone back. But she is grabbing her head in a TP pose.
Quire....meh whatever she was doing he couldnt stop her. Not a one shot though...technically...."technically".
I wanna that's WatXmen somewhere in the mid 20s but I really do need to check.
Didnt even realize what you said to Marvelfan. Congrats Pyrofn.....YOUR ON THE SHIT LIST!!! IM MARKING MY TERRITORY NOW!!! EVERYWHERE YOU GO IM DROPPING TURDS!!! DEATH TO THE HEATHEN!!
@pyrofn: 1. No. It means it's from the second issue of WatX-Men when the Hellfire Club attacks the school on the first day. Issue 12 is where she goes on a curbstomping spree against the avengers and she KOs Quire
@koays didn't notice it on here, but Rachel shut down the powers of Bishop and Kurt when she was a dinosaur. I could have just missed it though, if it's here just ignore
@koays here's the scan of when Rachel put blocks in Bishop's and Kurt's minds that prevented them from using their powers
Also didn't see the Exodus stuff. Not sure if you wanted to included them or not
Can't read his mind but can keep him out of their's. Can't penetrate his defenses but can skim his surface thoughts, which allowed her to pinpoint where he would appear (teleportation). Stalemating him telepathically while he fought the x-men IRL. Installing mental blocks to prevent him from using his powers, although he was already down at this point.
I would like to say Rachel is a very powerful telepath and Telekinetic but some of the feats like oneshoting Psylocke and the other Telepaths are considered P.I.S when they have better feats like tanking telepathic attacks form far greater telepaths (BTW great respect thread)
@marvelfan1992: Yea i have to add then as well as a feat of reversing mind control or Thanos' telepath Supergiant.
@Psy-Scarlet Quires been shown to be effected by Emma and the Cuckoos telepathic offense as well, his high ends may say he can strain to defend against higher attacks but it doesnt change Rachel's feats since every one of his higher defense feats has left him bloody.
Psylocke also doesn't have the feats to claim PIS, you can argue not being fully prepared, but Psylockes best defense feats are based around the Astral plane and resisting possession. Rachel KOing her with a Psi bolt after shes recieved a power up, when shes already been capable of generating Xavier level Psi bolts since she was a kid doesnt make that PIS.
Xavier Jr. Hit Rachel at least 2 times and was able to damage her, the first one being unexpected. She hit him once and shattered his Astral form and left him bloody....PIS that is not.
@koays: she wasn't fully prepared but Rachel is still being a more powerful telepath makes it kinda possible but wasn't she weakened or depressed because of the hole body switching thing stated by kitty that Jean has been working with her or something...BTW I think they're kinda similar it's just Besty kinda lacks feats against other Telepaths unlike Rachel who has fought characters like Emma frost ect...
@psy-scarlet: Idk on the specifics of Psylocke at that point, she appears to still be in her Asian body so I'm not sure what you mean. The thing is that there is multiple levels of power Psylocke would have to argue past to prove she's on Rachel's level of power and Psylocke seems knowledgeable but doesn't have many skill feats to say she's up their either though that gap seems drastically smaller. I'd argue that while Psylocke is written more effectively with cool showings of her abilities, Rachel's showings highlight her against other telepaths and have consistently enforced her strength and standing.
@darthphoenix: Ah, you finally arrive. Come! We have been making respect threads for Jean, Rachel, Madelyne, Emma, the Cuckoos, and plan on more in the future. Tell us what you think.
Reminder that Excalibur vol.1 (1989) is essentially one giant Rachel Grey respect thread. Thus this thread doesn't really need to be a thing.
Clobbers powerful enemies with little effort?? Yes.
Has to have ridiculous circumstances occur so she doesn't just defeat everything and end the story in 3 pages?? Bingo
Even when powers are stripped she still is a physical turbo warrior?? Yup
After a while it becomes clear that everything is so pathetically wrecked by her power that the writers are forced to come up with something derivative like"The Anti-Phoenix" just to give her a challenge?? This happened.
Defeats Galactus?? Why not.
Still a good series though. I always thought it was supposed to be more of a satiric comedy series though and not taken super seriously (specifically Claremont and Davis run), but, in the world of comics, there is apparently "feats!!" and "mawr feats!!" and room for very little else, so, who knows??
@cattlebattle: Lol a interesting point about the satire in the series is that I'm not always sure how serious were supposed to take it.
I mean on the one hand we have the war wolves just flatout murdering people and wearing their skin. And in another those same War wolves are in the zoo smoking cigars and reading newspapers.
I mean the Galactus arc has him show up on a world the team just left and devour it because it doesnt belong and then Jim Jaspers (or whoever the hell it was) just snaps it back into existence for the luls.
I mean it stands out at least up until it just becomes 90s X-Men in Europe, for having it's own very unique blend of comedy and action....but it's tones are always weird to sort out in some arcs and kinda make it a chore(especially the long dimension hopping arc)
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As for Rachel in Excalibur.....shes kinda a big reason I did the RT to begin with.
There is a period in Marvel where shes pretty much the strongest character in print but most people are unfamiliar with it because it's so far removed from even X-Men stories.
I mean Excalibur shows up in Inferno just for Rachel to get eaten by a building so that she cant solve the event in a issue.
Necron threw a moon at her, she backhanded a herald of Galactus into the moon.
And long before all of that her solution to the Beyonder simply existing was for her to try to destroy the universe.
Hell even in Claremonts last Uncanny shes making blackholes, shielding cities and just generally being awesome.
Shes older, stronger and has been involved in more plots then some A & B list X-Men and yet her C list status basically ensures that her existence could be swept under the rug without casuals even noticing
@cattlebattle: Lol a interesting point about the satire in the series is that I'm not always sure how serious were supposed to take it.
I mean on the one hand we have the war wolves just flatout murdering people and wearing their skin. And in another those same War wolves are in the zoo smoking cigars and reading newspapers.
I mean the Galactus arc has him show up on a world the team just left and devour it because it doesnt belong and then Jim Jaspers (or whoever the hell it was) just snaps it back into existence for the luls.
I mean it stands out at least up until it just becomes 90s X-Men in Europe, for having it's own very unique blend of comedy and action....but it's tones are always weird to sort out in some arcs and kinda make it a chore(especially the long dimension hopping arc)
Yeah, it's supposed to be like a sitcom. I think Claremont even said it's "AbFab with superheroes" (AbFab is a short for the British comedy series, Absolutely Fabulous). There is instances where the team will be facing down some serious situation and you will see Rachel in the background using her molecular control to change her outfits. Then the Excalibur team is comprised of three powerful beings and is able to be taken down by The Crazy Gang and Arcade. It reads like an episode of The Simpsons if it were meant to be about super heroes.
Then The Cross Time Caper arc is just basically the writers parodying other kinds of comics, like there is an issue that makes fun of the ridiculousness of super hero comics, with 500 of them running around punching 500 super villains and wrecking the planet in the process, then there is one that parodies manga, and one that parodies British comics like Judge Dredd. So, I don't know, I have always assumed the series is supposed to be taken as seriously as something like NEXTWAVE or X-Statix, I mean, it's technically part of continuity but sort of not at the same time.
As for Rachel in Excalibur.....shes kinda a big reason I did the RT to begin with.
There is a period in Marvel where shes pretty much the strongest character in print but most people are unfamiliar with it because it's so far removed from even X-Men stories.
I mean Excalibur shows up in Inferno just for Rachel to get eaten by a building so that she cant solve the event in a issue.
Necron threw a moon at her, she backhanded a herald of Galactus into the moon.
And long before all of that her solution to the Beyonder simply existing was for her to try to destroy the universe.
Hell even in Claremonts last Uncanny shes making blackholes, shielding cities and just generally being awesome.
Shes older, stronger and has been involved in more plots then some A & B list X-Men and yet her C list status basically ensures that her existence could be swept under the rug without casuals even noticing
Whenever I have seen people debate Rachel I have always seen them use Excalibur, because it is her best showings, sometimes to the point of ridiculousness. So, while it was never the premiere X-Men spinoff people are still very aware of it I think.
She's a really underrated character her telekinesis is very powerful while she's also a high tier telepath (I really wish she would get a solo book or join the Excalibur when Tini Howard leaves because she's just bad at writing X-MEN characters)
@koays I am curious as to the point in which Rachel Summers aka Prestige aka Marvel Girl II aka Phoenix II was declared an Omega level mutant and why it is not included in your thread?
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