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@morningstar999: @supersonictl:

1- my friends, the thing is, Flash had to prepare for the incalculable speed to happen. He asked everyone on earth to start running as fast as they can and Wally, with his ability to steal kinetic energy, borrowed the energy from everyone and managed to be faster than instant movement.

2- if they are using one time feat for anyone, how about when Goku moved during stopped time? And how Goku black was still faster than him at the time...

now the speed force is ridiculous so I can see why RF would win... but if all things considered, it’s much much closer than most believe.

3- phasing. Goku showed the ability to phase in Super, it was really short and it was through bullets. But still it should count. And phasing is vibrating at the exact same frequency of the person being attacked. So it can be countered easily if one is fast enough.

DC, GB is much more potent. Speed, probably RF. I still believe RF wins... but GB will put up a decent fight

@comicvamp: If I remember correctly, he is practicing. He starts training in the hospital... trying to move a cup of water.

Then as he is out of his casts and bandages, he gets here and moves .... either one of these pyramids or a chunk of a mountain and destroys it with TK

@comicvamp: this scene is from Goku training after the Saiyan arc as he was healing from his fight with. Vegeta.

It’s an anime only scene. So it counts for dbs as well. And I believe the scene was removed from the current run of original dbz as well.

Chapter looks better than anticipated

I mean.... if it’s Goku off guard again.... it’s really getting annoying... but if it’s some op time manipulation... then yeah I can stomach that

@zenkai234: highly unlikely

@dbzfan44: I agree these are not durability inconsistencies, but they are when it comes to speed. The bullet and even the laser ray?, should be moving in slow motion to Goku as he is much much faster than light. He should be able to use the Ki shield or even dodge very casually.

@dbzfan44: for the time being I can care less about amping up the feats, I just wish for the so claimed “anti-feats” to stop. Like needing teleportation to go from point A to point B on earth... when they should be able to reach point B faster than Goku’s concentration time.

Or Goku being injured by a bullet 🤦🏻‍♂️ wth was that?!

And as mentioned above, the oxygen thing and interstellar travel

@gelato_exotic: @gelato_exotic: Yeah I agree.

Beeing faster than space ships is old news even in dbz... anime canon proves Goku faster than his ship even as a ssj1.

No questions there.

Yeah I do appreciate the writers for giving us entertainment for years. But I wish they can endorse a hardcore fan or two as employees to eliminate inconsistencies and improve the plot and power scale.

@gelato_exotic: @gelato_exotic: It was stated multiple times that they can not.

I can only remember a couple of times.

Resurrection of Frieza.

When they said vegeta is gonna die because he is in space, while frieza survived earth’s destruction.

And beginning of moro arc when vegeta stated that they won’t be able to assist Buu because saiyans are “useless” in space.

To be honest, this is very stupid.

oxygen is needed for energy... they have Ki. They should be able to live off of ki for years without breathing. Even the Z warriors like krillin and yamacha should be do that.

And vegeta already showed absomute zero resisting feats.

Space should be a piece of cold cake for Goku and Vegeta