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Seems legit. I always held that Kenobi won fair and square in this duel, at least in regards to dueling, and I have never seen evidence that Vader was hindered here, so yes, Vader for at least most of his career has never been on Anakin's level saber wise.

Same applies to Legends imo, where I'm not even sure I have him on Dooku's level in sabers. But that's obviously another story.

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About the SotE accolade, wouldn't that include Yoda? After all, Vader did see Yoda fight against Dooku, so he should be aware of the latter's power level, at least as of AOTC, and for all he knows the Grandmaster could very well be dead already.

That would also be consistent with that sourcebook claiming Vader would win against Yoda, which in turn would be consistent with sources placing Vader as the second most powerful being in the Galaxy. Not just the Empire, the Galaxy, which goes beyond the domain of the Empire (e.g the latter doesn't control the Unknown Regions IIRC).

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Nice, but I must warn you that Wizards of the Coast is not canon to Legends according to Matt Martin.

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Nice job, this guy seems to be a true powerhouse. Definitely would stomp people like Dooku or Vader.

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@shroudofsorrow: Done, fortunately I still had the cropped scans saved on my computer, so it didn't take long.

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@insanity_: Neither was Sidious, I'd wager. And yet, Rebels Vader was clearly stated by Filoni to be not far above Rebels Maul, who is past his prime. Given that there is no other contradictory evidence to that notion, other than a list that, IIRC, according to Matt Martin should not necessarily be taken seriously, I don't see how he can be above Sidious, who stomped prime Maul. Vader, on the other hand, is unable to do the same to even Rebels Maul.

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@dawn_of_ages: I don't take that list seriously, as Sidious displayed equal or better feats while holding back.

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Ooh, nice. Krayt is a beast. Not sure where I'd rank him, though. He's probably a top 5 Sith, though.