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Nice job, this guy seems to be a true powerhouse. Definitely would stomp people like Dooku or Vader.

@reaperace: Perhaps a good idea would be to gather all, or almost all, anti-Vader quotes and sources in one thread/blog (even this one), check their date, and scrutinize them one by one to see if and ...

I'd say Mace takes this overall, and he most definitely wins in sabers.Granted, that still wasn't prime Vader, and while you can argue he didn't grow that much after OWK, I don't see why that shouldn'...

@eredin12: There's actually more to it. Now, the quotes don't say in absolutely certain terms that Vader and Luke would beat Sidious, but for Lucas and the SOTE sourcebook to even consider that as a l...

I believe it should remain legal, but also that it should only be reserved for the worst of the worst (e.g. if you want to truly see how much humanity can go off the deep end, check the Junko Furuta m...

@eredin12: Also, Vader being strong enough to kill ROTJ Sidious with Luke's help, (a notion even Lucas himself seemed to support) which would, if we accept it, at least require him to:1. Be a credible...

I believe the answer to that question depends on that to another question: when did Vader reach his prime in Canon, and how much did he grow?

@eredin12: Vader after TFU2, after all his plans for rebellion against Emperor failed with both Galen/ SK clones and artifacts was at his weakest, most depressed, he recovered good deal of his power w...

@eredin12: My problem with all that is: how do you explain him struggling with Kenobi in a lightsabers-only scenario as of ANH? I mean, he should have blitzed him considering he grew more powerful ove...

Vader, should be a decent fight though.

@uhu123: That still doesn't change that Vader was "weaker than he'd ever been" with him being stated as "ignoring" his weakness even after he grabbed the Emperor (i.e. after focusing his energy), some...

@shootingnova:Simple; because it reflects an alternate reality of events, not an alternate reality of power levels. This isn't like KotOR 2 where the dark side version is an entirely different playthr...

@eredin12:? Galen was near equal to him before Onesies, he literally made him desperate in the clash, and this Palpatine would one-shot Yoda like fodderJust saying that even if pre Oneness Galen wasn'...

@shootingnova:Galen advanced because he was ready to lay down his life even before he entered the Oneness. It was a suicide attack that only built in severity because he was willing to give up absolut...