Xerolot

Wow, nice. I never insulted you (if you're talking about me as "asgardianbrony alt"). Only mentioned some feats and now you are escaping with locking thread? I only want a discussion with arguments in good atmosphere is that so much?

@sirfizzwhizz "So... where was all this in the movie? Oh thats right, this is BS and not applicable to the movies. Though killing a foe is a KO anyway.". Second movie, Eru Iluvatar sends Gandalf to Middleearth from Valinor after his "death". They dont have much feats, becouse Eru send wizards to inspire and lead people instead of give them full Maiar power. The weakest version (movie) of Gandalf deafeated full power, corrupted angel who was almost equal to him in magic (its from the books). If they have Full power of maiar we need to look into the books for they potential: full power maiar like Sauron was able to: Survive without his body, manipulate the shape of his physical form, shifting between multiple forms without much difficulty, creating multiple ilussions and mind manipulation, they can manipulate entire earth and weather, Sauron burned Gil-Galad with only one touch, Drain the life of living beings just by being close to them, telekinesis, powerfull magic shields, they can tank magic shots which were able to destroy entire stone buildings and much, much more. We can call them low level reality warpers at least. How can Ghost Rider will kill him? His attacks will not penetrate Gandalf's magic shields and Gandalf can bfr him into the sun

Fair enough, but I'm still thinking Gandalf with potential of his full not limited power will stomp Ghost Rider.

And Ghostrider can't kill any maiar, becouse they will simply go back to Eru Iluvatar and he will send them again, so whats the point

"The wizards aren't holding back and will use their full power", ok so he stops at Gandalf the Grey I dare to say. Question @xtreme1, if they can use their full power can they go into full maiar form instead of human?

That depends on that if he have limits. You know that limits what Eru Iluvatar put on him when he send him to Middleearth.

@leo-343: We must remember that Dumbledore beat Grindelwald with Elder Wand. That most impressive feat. Is Voldemort stronger than Grindelwald? We know Grindelwald after years in prison without wand, still was able to block his mind from Voldemort who was stated as grandmaster of legilimency.

I have so many characters I like, its impossible to choose top5. I'll just pick random five and see what happens.

Count Dooku, Emiel Regis, Discord, Fox Quicksilver, Ice King vs Ramsey Bolton, Mcu Warmachine, Dolores Umbridge, Joffrey Baratheon, Jar Jar Binks. Hmm dream team curbstomp in 2 seconds.

Powerfull sith lord, powerfull high vampire, trolling reality warper, mr. gotta go fast and creazy ice mage vs Normal human, mr. I stole Iron man suit to be pro, witch who is very weak at casting spells, Joffrey.. and annoying gungan.

I cant even change dream team to be more fair for nightmare team, because the rest of my favourite characters (Mcu Thor & Loki, Fox Magneto, Geralt of Rivia, Dettlaff, Vilgefortz, Gandalf the Grey, Billy from Adventure Time, the Lich from Adventure Time, General Grievous) will rekt nightmare team in any combination. Most of fav. characters would solo.

Sauron just destroy their's wands with one move of his hand.

Tag me, this gonna be good