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#1 Posted by Wowlock (907 posts) - - Show Bio

@zwm210 said:

I don't get why marvel so desperately wants to return to the era of the clone saga. Doesn't everyone agree that it's the worst era in Spider-Man's history?

Well OMD is universally hated too and we see how Marvel handled that. So yea, Universally hated ? Marvel LOVE IT ! Thats why DC is getting the upperhand for me. I seem to read more of DC than Marvel these days and the number of titles to drop from Marvel is growing with each stupid decision.

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#2 Posted by Wowlock (907 posts) - - Show Bio

@wowlock: Does that mean that Harvey can no longer be admitted to Arkham since there's no chance for him being reformed/re-adjusted?

I honestly don't know. At this point, putting him out of his misery is a mercy.

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#3 Posted by Wowlock (907 posts) - - Show Bio

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AAAND...this is where I drop this shit... Not gonna sit here and watch Cage family get ruined like this.

At this point Marvel should just call themselves '' Marvel : No Happy Family Allowed! ''

Yeah me too. I'm no knocking Bendis' writing in this book. I'm sure he's in his element here. But, I do feel that the Cage family is one of the few positive contributions he made to the MU. There is probably a good reason why Jessica went all psycho-loner not telling the man the fate of his own baby, but I'm just unfortunately not convinced that this mystery's payoff will be worth buying this book for me. We'll see.

I mean, why would he try to ruin one of the few GOOD things he gave to MU. ''Burn everything to the ground'' plan or something ? We saw how bad he is with big events and how many characters he ruined and now he turns to his own creations and regress their growth.

Mark my words, the same '' edgy/loser Jessica Jones'' will not feel as good as the first book because all the growth she had getting wasted like this will ruin the book, at least for me.

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#4 Posted by Wowlock (907 posts) - - Show Bio

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I just can't forgive King for ruining Catwoman's character like that, no matter the justification. Just because 237 people were ''terrorists'' doesn't make is any less of a MASS MURDER. Not to mention how she acts towards the killings, as if she is relishing it which she NEVER DID in her history. I mean even against Black Mask who wanted to destroy everything and everyone she cared about, when she killed him, she was feeling freaking guilt over it. And now we are, not to mention BATMAN himself who is all about not killing , expected to go and say '' oh yea, you mass murdered 237 people but they were terrorists so I guess it is fine ''. Not to mention this whole deal with make it impossible for me to take her ''care-free'' attitude seriously other than her being turned into more like a female-Joker because Selina I know would be far more serious about such things and couldn't go on the same way as we see here. She shouldn't be another mentally-damaged murderer. Batman has enough psycos as it is. What made Catwoman iconic was that she had that redemptive part and that what made her / her relationship interesting with Batman. But after knowing this ? I cannot honestly believe Bruce truly loving a mass murderer...no matter what, and IT PAINS ME to think that because Selina and Bruce is one of my top relationships other than Peter and Mary Jane and now both are in the ruin.

Even more insult to injury, Harley Quinn is now supposedly a ''hero'' while Selina is a Mass Murderer.... Rebirth was going soo well until this crap happened that , honestly, make me wanna not read this crap anymore because I can't stand the idea of a Mass Murderer Catwoman, acting like normal and Batman ignoring that fact like normal too. Why did they had to ruin her so...Why....

First time posting here and still new to comics, but what the hell was King thinking? I don't even know if I want to continue reading.

"I'll break his/your damn back"--It sounds so stupid and cheesy. It was weird at first and laughable by the end. Also, what's the point of making Catwoman a murderer? Honestly, is King doing this just for shock value or trying to put a new "edgy" layer onto their relationship? I don't think Batman could ever forgive/understand her now. Does Tom King hope for readers to understand/empathize with Selina because some terrorist bombed an orphanage? "Let's reintroduce Catwoman for Rebirth; however, let's portray her as a mass murderer and villain even though her pre-Flashpoint characterization and backstory was perfectly fine."

''but it is terrorists, Man ! '' Everyone hates terrorists so that makes it okay , right ? RIGHT ? Why are you looking at me like a bloodthirsty - crazy person ? LETS PUT A SMILE ON THAT FACE ! .... is what I think of King right now. I mean with Joker sidelined, I guess they want take that road with Catwoman ? They had to have a mass murderer, heavily involved with Batman to show how ''edgy'' it is. History and Iconic character be damned !

You know what is the worst part ? She doesn't feel the guilt or effects of those murders. She is still as non-chalant about it as her robberies. And by the end, she turns into a pessimist by saying '' Oh Bruce, you fight for a better world but there is no such thing...and when you come to think of like me, we can be together that way '' which is BULLSHIT. No matter what, Selina was always upbeat with her struggles. That is what keeps her going, not this emo '' everything is bad and can't be better '' crap. How the hell Batman is the more optimistic guy in this relationship ?! HOW ?!

It should be the opposite that Catwoman coming to the light to make the relationship work, rather than Batman diving into darkness....THAT IS TALIA'S BACKGROUND, NOT SELINA ! How can they do this to Bruce's True love. and knowing this info, how can Selina be Bruce's true love now, where she IS a mass murderer, no matter what the circumstance might be.

I cannot believe the Mob-boss Selina I hated looks and sounds more reasonable than this Selina we get.

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#5 Posted by Wowlock (907 posts) - - Show Bio

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@dark_stranger: What?! Other than she's NOT nor will EVER be Thor?!! I mean "ODINSON" was not his birth name.

You say she isn't. But last I checked she is currently Thor. ;)

Okay so fine the circumstances that led to this was sh*tty. But past that, Jane Thor has been rather interesting a take. An I know you won't see that or ever like it, and that's fine. Either way it's not as horrible as you an others make it seem.

Again, Thor is not a damn title or mantle , no matter how much Marvel tries to pass it on too. You cannot take someone's name and claim it that '' I am you now and your name is mine, you cannot use it anymore''. Doesn't that sound stupid as hell ? You can't go to Peter Parker and say '' Oh I am Peter Parker now, I took your name so you cannot call yourself that anymore...You are now Richardsson ! ''. And don't start with me about the whole ''Mjollnir was a cosmic Storm goddess that chose Jane...for some reason'' thing. I mean this is how far they go to try and justify the whole thing and ever since the change, I've been waiting something redeeming, only to be disappointed in every turn. Having almost all Asgardian characters that doesn't support Jane turn into one-dimensional villains...because they don't have any VALID points or anything but questioning Jane's legitimacy and IDENTITY THEFT, is a crime appearantly.

And I don't think Jane as Thor was interesting to say the least. She is more headstrong and reckless than Thor ever was. I mean everytime she showed up in a book as a cameo, she barged in, accusing stuff, throwing her weight around until realizing her mistake but move past it quickly. And other than her cancer ( which she refuse to find a treatment ...from GODS because ..REASONS ! ), I didn't find anything interesting about her character and the most interesting things happened around her, which her acting like a wall the events bounce off of. I mean Roxxon's rivalry with other evil corporations was 10 times more interesting than Jane. Also I am pissed Odin had to become a bad-guy in a sense to make Jane look good, even though he had every right to get the hammer of his son back from a stranger who has the GALL to use his name and hammer without permission nor blessing.

I can go on and on but everything about this have already been said. I just ignore Jane and her Thor, despite how hard it can get since they put her in EVERY BOOK nowadays.

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#6 Posted by Wowlock (907 posts) - - Show Bio

I just can't forgive King for ruining Catwoman's character like that, no matter the justification. Just because 237 people were ''terrorists'' doesn't make is any less of a MASS MURDER. Not to mention how she acts towards the killings, as if she is relishing it which she NEVER DID in her history. I mean even against Black Mask who wanted to destroy everything and everyone she cared about, when she killed him, she was feeling freaking guilt over it. And now we are, not to mention BATMAN himself who is all about not killing , expected to go and say '' oh yea, you mass murdered 237 people but they were terrorists so I guess it is fine ''. Not to mention this whole deal with make it impossible for me to take her ''care-free'' attitude seriously other than her being turned into more like a female-Joker because Selina I know would be far more serious about such things and couldn't go on the same way as we see here. She shouldn't be another mentally-damaged murderer. Batman has enough psycos as it is. What made Catwoman iconic was that she had that redemptive part and that what made her / her relationship interesting with Batman. But after knowing this ? I cannot honestly believe Bruce truly loving a mass murderer...no matter what, and IT PAINS ME to think that because Selina and Bruce is one of my top relationships other than Peter and Mary Jane and now both are in the ruin.

Even more insult to injury, Harley Quinn is now supposedly a ''hero'' while Selina is a Mass Murderer.... Rebirth was going soo well until this crap happened that , honestly, make me wanna not read this crap anymore because I can't stand the idea of a Mass Murderer Catwoman, acting like normal and Batman ignoring that fact like normal too. Why did they had to ruin her so...Why....

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#7 Posted by Wowlock (907 posts) - - Show Bio

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Soo how does killing Bruce Banner and walking away with MURDER doesn't make Clint Barton Privileged Superhero 'class' ? That whole premisis sounds stupid as hell.

Did you read the Accused? The defense pretty easily shows that from Clint's point of view that he killed Banner in defense for the lives of his friends, the lives of a ton of innocent people, and for his own life. That was only heightened by Bruce Banner coming to him and asking Clint to kill him if he tries to Hulk out. Honestly that story made it pretty easy to identify with both sides of the trial.

And yet, The Hand already stole Banner's body and resurrected the Hulk but in their control...So GREAT JOB CLINT.

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#8 Posted by Wowlock (907 posts) - - Show Bio

There is someone wrong with that profile for Selina. Feels like she got setup again. What is more suprising is how Batman let her stay in Arkham for this long. I mean Selina would NEVER kill 237 people and she barely killed anyone who didn't deserve it.

There must be some explaination. Otherwise it will be one of the worst things that would come with Rebirth...which have been doing great.

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#9 Posted by Wowlock (907 posts) - - Show Bio

@mizerous said:

@wowlock: If anything Black Cat going back to jail would make her more nuts.

At least we would be rid of her for a while instead of seeing her in every spider-book, ruining it.

I mean when she went '' I don't even know him but I hate him '' during Miles' book, I knew there was no hope for her character and that she had become a shallow Spider-hate villain.

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#10 Posted by Wowlock (907 posts) - - Show Bio

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Soo she locked up wade to torture him to learn about her mother...but in the meantime...took the mantle of Deadpool for somereason ? Why would you take the mantle of the father you hate so much ?

Also, knowing how Marvel is setting Shiklah up to be the future Monster event bad-guy, she will not like what she learns even if Wade remembers or worse she might even agree with her mother.

I am wondering who will the Zenpool be though. I mean the obvious choice would be Ellie but that would be too predictable.

Aww, so Deadpool's marriage with her isn't going to last?

Well it highly depends on what the writer is feeling. One book, he and Shiklah are their loveable self the way they met and made them great ....on the other book, Shiklah gets a group of consorts to satisfy herself while Wade is away...not to mention the foreshadowing of ''Oh monsters should be ruling the surface ! '' narrative they keep her repeating. Soo I am scared for it really.