@zgtfreak: Well that is exactly what NLF stands for. NLF meaning that a ability has never shown effectivness against beings higher than the user himself when it comes to stats only. If a character with wall level stats only ever fought against wall level opponents there is not a single reason to say that it can or can not affect someone who is planetary. As long as this is not indicated or shown in any way it is and stays NLF for that time.
I'm only caught up on the manga, and from what I've seen so far Rimuru can't even beat King Piccolo. I'm sure he gets much stronger in the light novel, but SSG level?
PREMISE: I will use debate my last resort arguement today & prove SS4 Goku is 7D Arguement:
Argument 1: The Universe is as you know. Garlic & Goku have demonstrated 4D aspects of power via creation & devastation of 4D. Both Goku & Buuhan demonstrated as well such as Boohan's Vice Shout potency scales to his ap. Super Boo's Vice Shout had the potential to make a small window size hole. Boohan's Vice Shout according to the anime scale exclusive guide states his Vice Shout has Universe Potency thus . We already know Goku shook Hell but I'll leave the video here anyways. Also Hell is the equator of the Macrocosm thus making it another feat as well.
https://youtu.be/WBN_v7pxzEo
Baby surpassed Instantaneous Movement by halting it with mere shockwaves alone. Mass × Acceleration = Force Mass × Acceleration = Force Mass × Instant Acceleration(0 seconds) = above Force Because 0 seconds is above linear seconds as their is an amount of time between 1 & 0.0000....1 seconds. Mass × Acceleration(less than 0 seconds) = above above Force Because faster than 0 seconds is more speed. So we have 3 Amps. Super Saiyan 4 surpasses that thus giving 3 Amps when used. So he goes from 4D to 5D to 5D to 6D. Goku is stronger than that Super Saiyan 4 in Base as he became on par if not greater than Omega Shenron's Minus Karma Power Ball. This makes Goku 6D. Super Saiyan 4 Goku goes up by 3 Amps thus goes from 6D to 6d to 7D to 7D.
Arguement: 2 He says it was FORCE that stopped him. We know he was halted directly from the Revenge Death Ball itself. There is no evidence of "hax" used as this is just a giant terrorist bomb made of Ki. While it's true teleportation isn't real neither of us could breakdown the science to the atom but rather use logic about how it would realistically work; in Dragon Ball however when teleporting you exit your Dimension and enter the dimension of your destination by traveling through Dimensions. This is seen here as Kabito Kai is traveling through "Between Space"(i got the name from transformers, cool huh)on his way to the Realm Of The Kai's. Between Space is basically the space between Dimensions & this is mentioned by the Toonoki, shown by the God Of Creation's travel, & shown when Goku is floating there. In M7 we see Instantaneous Movement used & we see Goku & Cooler TRAVELING
PREMISE: I will use debate my last resort arguement today & prove SS4 Goku is 7D Arguement:
Argument 1: The Universe is as you know. Garlic & Goku have demonstrated 4D aspects of power via creation & devastation of 4D. Both Goku & Buuhan demonstrated as well such as Boohan's Vice Shout potency scales to his ap. Super Boo's Vice Shout had the potential to make a small window size hole. Boohan's Vice Shout according to the anime scale exclusive guide states his Vice Shout has Universe Potency thus . We already know Goku shook Hell but I'll leave the video here anyways. Also Hell is the equator of the Macrocosm thus making it another feat as well.
Baby surpassed Instantaneous Movement by halting it with mere shockwaves alone. Mass × Acceleration = Force Mass × Acceleration = Force Mass × Instant Acceleration(0 seconds) = above Force Because 0 seconds is above linear seconds as their is an amount of time between 1 & 0.0000....1 seconds. Mass × Acceleration(less than 0 seconds) = above above Force Because faster than 0 seconds is more speed. So we have 3 Amps. Super Saiyan 4 surpasses that thus giving 3 Amps when used. So he goes from 4D to 5D to 5D to 6D. Goku is stronger than that Super Saiyan 4 in Base as he became on par if not greater than Omega Shenron's Minus Karma Power Ball. This makes Goku 6D. Super Saiyan 4 Goku goes up by 3 Amps thus goes from 6D to 6d to 7D to 7D.
Arguement: 2 He says it was FORCE that stopped him. We know he was halted directly from the Revenge Death Ball itself. There is no evidence of "hax" used as this is just a giant terrorist bomb made of Ki. While it's true teleportation isn't real neither of us could breakdown the science to the atom but rather use logic about how it would realistically work; in Dragon Ball however when teleporting you exit your Dimension and enter the dimension of your destination by traveling through Dimensions. This is seen here as Kabito Kai is traveling through "Between Space"(i got the name from transformers, cool huh)on his way to the Realm Of The Kai's. Between Space is basically the space between Dimensions & this is mentioned by the Toonoki, shown by the God Of Creation's travel, & shown when Goku is floating there. In M7 we see Instantaneous Movement used & we see Goku & Cooler TRAVELING
@theanimal666: corection; u debated in your thread and called the mods for no reason and flamed another user who disagreed with the nature of the battle thread, you called him incoherent just because he was validating your arguments.
@juiceboks@morpheus_@jedixman: the OP is flaming and toxic and seem to have a winner in mind and is debating in his/her own battle thread plz close this thread cheers.
@theanimal666: So the reason why you called the moderators into the thread is because @merulezall disagreed with the fact that put two shit characters together into a fight and you putting characters that have inconsistent feats, so you call the mods into this thread?
Sounds legit.
Showing bias towards a characters' feats isn't breaking the rules, your flaming and tagging mods for no reason is in-fact breaking rules.
Anyone with brain can tell you're an alt. You're convincing no one, so I don't need to hear anymore of this. You called me toxic as well, any proof of this?
i say that baph was toxic not u llel cuz he brang out that u are a cas wanker when you never supprot tr you only say that he stops a x number
anway i say that sleepjypsy was toxic and also the other 3 accs that was wanking tr was the same people
not u lol and i am no alt, i just see that there are lot of tr or cas threads but i hve here that milk man was strongest superman bcuz he sees cas and overvoid as fiction
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