Westwood_Trevor

This actually give us an idea about how good the future Boruto's battles are going to be. Just think about the quality behind Kawaki's trailer.

And think about:

---> Kawaki vs Garou/Boruto

---> Team 7 vs Cyber-Ao

---> Naruto vs Delta

---> Naruto & Sasuke vs Jigen

and so on. . .

@miriotogata said:

Some recent infos and other new stuff about Boruto/Naruto:

• Mikio Ikemoto talks about the future of the series, time-skip, anime etc:

• Boruto Anime is ranked 3rd most watched anime worldwide. Also it takes the Asian Crown:

• Naruto/Boruto (and S8) mangas taking W's:

Great results indeed. Looking forward to the Time-Skip!

I'd like to add another great milestone. . .

Naruto & Sasuke vs Momoshiki is the most viewed Anime-Battle ever, with over 37 million views (AMV excluded).

Forgot to stay away from every DBZ (or else) thread. . . damn, I broke my personal rule.

Team Stomps.

Kala's Black Sword that forces transmutation into informations whatever it touches.

Soroken that completely negates regeneration.

World of Death: BFR into a Void Universe, where nothingness lies in it.

Soul Swords and Techniques that work on a sub-atomic level.

BFR to outer space.

Etc.

Again. . . 'verse battles are not allowed.

First of all ---> 'verse battles are not allowed, especially bait-'verse battles that turn out to be mismatches. . .

@el_directo_

Sealing won't actually stop zeref.

Sealing will actually work.

He will just rewind time and undo the seals. Before anyone says zeref can only rewind time of himself, that is not true. When natsu vaporized him, he rewound the time of himself as well as the damaged portion of the guild around him. The seals will get undone with time reversal

The purpose of most Fūinjutsu (a.k.a Sealing Jutsu)is sealingthe powers, energy and soul of the target.

• Rikudo: Chibaku Tensei ---> prolly the most obvious example of this kind of Sealing Jutsu. Used against Kaguya Otsutsuki, in order to completely seal all her powers. . . and her immortality.

• Fūinjutsu: Shiki Fujin ---> a.k.a "Reaper Death Seal", the soul of the target will be sealed by the Death God. Attention! This is not a mere soul stealing power. . . what the Death God does if different from just stealing away a soul.

The souls of the victims will also be devoured by the Death God and sealed inside his belly. --->

Furthermore, in order to prevent any kind of soul-steal resistance, the Death God cuts away the target' soul --->

• Totsuka Blade ---> I guess this doesn't need an explanation. . .

With that being said. . . the Naruto World has plenty of this kind of Fūinjutsuthat I won't list here for common sense. Just think about the Six Paths Sacred Treasures of Hagoromo, like:

• Kohaku no Jōhei
• Benihisago

Bfr to another dimension might also work, but IMO, that's 50/50.

It will 100% work and I'll tell you why.

Zeref explicitly told natsu he had complete control over time-space. We know he wasn't bluffing because he was controlling the time rift

• Zeref has not shown any kind of spatial teleportation nor dimensional travel ---> the easiest counter is also the most obvious one. . . however, this is just the initial point of this whole discussion.
  
  
• Zeref has not control over different time/spaces ---> sure, Zeref said he has control over THAT time/space (the FT world time/space), however we all know that Otsutsuki's dimensions have all their own time/space not related with the common Naruto World's continuum time/space.
  

It's the exact meaning of parallel dimension ---> a different reality with a different continuum time/space aswell.

Same goes to the Kamui's Time Space Dimension, created by Obito Uchiha's Mangekyo Sharingan and unaccessible to everyone else without Obito's eye(s).

---> I made this graphic in order to help y'all understand the difference between FH Zeref's time/space control and Otsutsuki's Dimensions:

Shortly. . . having the control over one time/space (FT World) doesn't mean having the control over every single time/space. Especially 'cause these different worlds don't have any single magic source a.k.a ethernano.

Q: "Would this be different if Zeref said he has control over every single time/space?"

A:Nope. And I'll tell you why.

What are the Ravines of Time and why are related to FH Zeref? ---> The Ravines of Times is a space between FT common world's time, created from the distortions in the time from Anna Heartfilia crossing over 400 years (time travel).

The Ravines of Time are the source of power of FH Zeref, again "a space between FT common world's time". Zeref was planning to reset time before he got cursed and turned into an immortal. . . that was his goal.

In other words ---> FH Zeref's time power can only work in the FT's world, where the Ravines of Times are located. This also connects my first point, the fact that Zeref cannot dimensional travel.

Remember my previous graphic?

tsb? Time rewind.

Actually nope. Gudoudama erase souls of immortal beings like Edo Tensei chars (souls inside fake, indestructible bodies).

Genjutsu is so weak that it can be broken out of just by little energy fluctuation, or an external interference

There are many different types of Genjutsu. The basic ones can be broken by these methods, true. . . however there are several others that cannot be broken in those ways, such as Mangekyo Sharingan Genjutsu.

And of course. . . Mugen Tsukuyomi.

Fodders like BOS laxus, erza, jellal and a few others have resisted and broken out of mind rape just by powering up a little

There are several errors and misconceptions here:

---> Laxus broken out from Mystogan's illusion just by realizing it was a mere illusion. It was similar to Midnight's mirage.

---> Erza was unaffected by Midnight's visual illusion due to her fake eye, that let her see through his mirage.

---> Meanwhile Jellal has simply injured his eyes in order to broke the same type of visual illusion.

Midnight's magic simply affects the eyesight. It's a visual illusion. . . a mirage. It's only based on his refraction ability.
However, the targets of his mirages can freely move(Jellal) and counter it by simply realizing they are watching a mirage.

There's a HUGE difference between Midnight's mirages and Genjutsu.

• Many Genjutsu (even some basic ones) doesn't target the eyesight. They frames all the 5 senses.

The effects of Genjutsu varies:

• Sleep Inducement (Kabuto: Nirvana's Temple)

• (Complete) Mind Control

• Incapacitation, KO and body paralysis/control

The victim won't be able to break from it even if he/she realizes he's trapped inside a Genjutsu. . . like what happened with Naruto (Fake Itachi's "Finger Genjutsu").

There are also Genjutsu that traps the target into an infinite time-loop, impossible to broke unless the target changes his heart (ex: a bad guy becomes a friendly good guy).

• Izanami - Infinite Time-Loop

Keep in mind that Itachi was helping Kabutochimaru to understand how to break Izanami's power. . .

• Now. . . let's just point out that OP created a bait thread, thinking FH Zeref can win. . . without taking into account what a "1 vs Everything & Everyone" means. . .

Zeref will have to deal with every:

Sharingan users

Mangekyo Sharingan (all related powers) users

Izanami users

Fūinjutsu users

Genjutsu(s) users

Dimensional BFR users

Not-Genjutsu Mind Control users (Yamanaka Clan)

Gudoudama users

Soul Absorption/Destruction users

Otsutsuki Clan (Karma Information Manip. to Time Freeze, Future Sight, Time Travel, Power Absorption etc.)

Kaguya's Dimensional Gudoudama

. . . all at once.Let alone their Teamwork. . .

• Bullrushed through a 100% Kurama Avatar. . . effortlesly --->

• 50% Kurama Avatar (EoS) was able to block and tank slashes from EoS Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo. . . with no visible damage --->

• and EoS Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo was able to cut into pieces meteors enough huge that the chunks alone were dwarfing multiple mountain ranges --->

• . . . furthermore an even weaker form of 50% Kurama Avatar (BM Naruto - 4th War ver.) tanked a direct hit from the Juubi, who was able to create an island level shockwave by just moving his hand (notice the huge rocks he lifted aswell) --->

• Easily penetrated Sasuke's Perfect Susanoo with a single kick, sending Sasuke flying away during the process --->

• . . . so far only two things were able to penetrate Sasuke Perfect Susanoo's defense. . . Kaguya and the clash between EoS Naruto's Bijuudama and Sasuke's PS Chidori.

@molt said:

Gamabunta's official height is 17m:

And all Tailed Beasts are of similar size making them 17m

Extremely wrong measure that's also not even comparable with the size of a 100% Bijuu --->

Let alone that Gamabunta' size is only comparable to Kurama's head. . .

Calling Bunta a 17 mt Toad would be pretty hilarious, especially when his size exceedes that number in every panel he was shown. . .

. . . I'm amazed (in a bad way) about all this downplay regarding 2nd Incomplete Juubi's Juubidama. . . let's make it a bit clearer, shall we?

Let's start form the basic:

• Bijuu size ----> The size of a Bijuu depends on the quantity of chakra it has (as demostrated by Minato and Juubito). A Bijuu with its chakra at 100% is as big as a large hill/small mountain(tails included).

In this case Hachibi' size, who is at 100% of his chakra, is around large hill/small mountain aswell.

Here's the size of Hachibi compared with the AoE of his Hachimaki Bijuu a.k.a Eight Twists:

as you can see Hachibi looks like an ant compared with the crater he made, who is a solid mountain to large mountain wide.

• common Bijuudama's AoE ---> the AoE of a common Bijuudama (not Kurama) is slightly bigger than the crater made by the Eight Twists. We are still in the mountain - large mountain area.
  
  
• Combo Bijuudama and its AoE --->as you can clearly see below the 5 Bijuudama dropped by the Bijuu have affected an area enough large to be considered a large island. You can notice how many mountains and mountain ranges the red-delimited area contains.
  The Combo Bijuudama's explosion would fit the large island red-delimited area. Pretty easy to understand. . .
  
  

I'm sure you've noticed that, around the AoE of those 5 Bijuudama and Eight Twists there are even bigger mountains. That's right, since in the world there are mountains with different height (u don't say). You can freely compare 'em with the craters left by those Bijuudama who were already solid mountain to large mountain wide.

• Bee/Naruto Combo Bijuudama and even more evidences ---> if you are still trying to deny what on-panel feats shows the watch this:

Look at the peninsula ^ it is covered by mountain ranges and forests.

Meanwhile the AoE of the Combined Bijuudama, that would completely cover it. That's right. . . 'cause there are even bigger mountain ranges and mountains in the Naruto world. You can see how big some (the closest to the explosion) of 'em are.

• 2nd Incomplete Juubi's Juubidama ---> and here we have a casual Juubidama.

I have delimited the area of the 5 Bijuudama previously dropped by the Bijuu, who is a large island sized area ^

The mountain ranges of that area are now basically impossible to see, however the peninsula gives you a hint about it. Meanwhile you can clealry see how massive the mountain ranges around the Juubi crater and around the Juubidama's explosion are. Not even comparable with the 5 Bijuudama's AoE.

The Distance ---> another important factor you have to take into consideration is the distance perception.In fact the Juubidama would look way bigger if it was closer to out point of view. . . this may be kindergarten stuff but you don't even know how many users do not take the distance perception into consideration. . .

The size of the Juubi ---> pretty sure that some fools will try to downplay the crater left by Naruto/Bee Bijuudama by saying that you can see the Juubi. . . let alone that Juubi is already way bigger than any other Bijuu at 100%. . . this is called off-panel picture, happens all the time in manga. It is used by the artist in order to help the readers to understand where an attack was fired (this case) or else.

In fact, if you're trying to downplay that feat, I can show you this:

In this panel Gajeel, compared with FT folks, would be comparable to a 100% Bijuu. . . and this is incorrect, like saying the Combo Bijuudama crater looks small due to Juubi comparison, don't you think?

Compared with what Natsu did? ---> I dunno how many HP Aldoron had after the destruction of his Seeds and after getting ragdolled by Gajeel. . . I also dunno if that blast of energy happened 'cause Natsu destroyed the Main God Seed (real form of Aldoron) or else. . .
So I'm gonna talk about the AoE of that blast.

Natsu's blast has clealry covered the whole area of one of those cities that Aldoron has on his body, who are comparable to those large mountains (yup, the mountains around Aldoron have different size aswell). We can also take into consideration the height of the city-walls.

Impressive? Yes. Above a Juubidama fired by 2nd Incomplete Juubi? Definitely not.

Regarding its AoE I'd put him around 1st form Juubi's Juubidama --->

I guess you've read my wait I said above so I won't need to explain the different size of mountains and mountains ranges in Naruto World all over again. . .

I agree they are both superior to her 4th War version in some stats, yup.

Let's see how strong Isshiki will be after getting absorbed/devoured by his Juubi and possessing Kawaki's body. I'm definitely hyped!