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@ninjarizer said:
@wanderez said:

Oh, and yes. Nobody is saying that Senjumaru is universal as far as I'm aware. Shaking a universe doesn't require nowhere near the energy it'd take to destroy it.

Literally I’ve only seen one person say this.

People get scared so I‘ve been using cosmology, but it simply shows a level of power that is beyond what is generally thought of Bleach

It is a tangible and observable feat, and the simple fact that galaxies weren’t shown is used as a crutch to downplay the most accurate interpretation, essentially pedalling VS > Narrative

The copium is simply crazy. The statement translates nothing else but ONLY to "everything in existence" and considering that multiple people I asked that can read and translate Japanese and a person who can kinda do Chinese say that THERE IS NO other interpretation to it just speaks volumes. And then Senjumaru proceeds to shake a planet across two spacetimes and all of a sudden it's all that she shook, completely ignoring logic and the very statement itself, because the anime didn't meticulously go through every single of the trollions of galaxies that exist in the observable universe, every star, planet, moon, etc that exist in them showing them shake.

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@zxc6 said:

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I am not saying their energy cant shaking those realms, just that it has nothing to do with their actual power or durability . it simple a display of their reiatsu . for example if you say they are multi-solar my point is that they dont have multi-solar durability or raw power .

That's the entire point though. If she didn't have the power - she wouldn't be shaking them and vice versa.

I'm genuinely speechless...

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Oh, and yes. Nobody is saying that Senjumaru is universal as far as I'm aware. Shaking a universe doesn't require nowhere near the energy it'd take to destroy it.

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The unfortunate fact that I find a reason to use this in 95% of the threads I participate in is just sad.

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There is no conflicting here, the confusion come from your part since as a powerscaler you associate power with actual AP (like Saitama serious punch) and durability . those statments of squad zero show their energy and reiatsu are huge and have effect on the realms . This is very different from claiming they can destroy universe or whatsoever with a strike of their swords

Hmm, that's weird. Very weird indeed. I could've sworn that Kirinji explicitly told Senjumaru not to overdo it. I wonder why, hmm. Perhaps he was showing mercy to the Quincies? Yeah, that must be it! Surely it has nothing to do with the fact that the moment Senjumaru used Bankai, the realms began to shake? Surely it has nothing to do with endangering the realms if she did "overdo it"?

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But nah. That'd be wank. It's all just her range, right?

You heard it here, folks. All universal characters in any fictional work have just been officially debunked.

Destroying a hydrogen atom (for example) as in converting it into energy takes 0.0015 Joules.

All those guys/gals that destroyed universes only got universal range but have infinitesimal power compared to an ordinary human. They merely destroyed a universe by converting each atom into energy. Who would've thought, huh.

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@sixpathsofcapra said:

Is Ichibei's full power sealed too? Or him going full power doesn't endanger the 3 realms because he's transcendent?

He wasn't a part of the blood pact as there were only four candles. As of now you can only speculate. Chances are since he is over a million years old, he has gotten a much better hold of his power. But again, that's merely a speculation.

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@zxc6 said:

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It work very well ,that not conflict each other. the purpose is to show they are powerful and have big pp , nowhere is was stated they can destroy a universe or whatsoever with their AP

No, no, no. Those are very conflicting statements. Which is it? Was the power boost meant to:

  1. Show the unsealed power of Squad Zero?
  2. Show the range of the energy of Squad Zero?

It's a simple question to answer. Go on.

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@zxc6 said:

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The worlds were shaking(and not "violently", otherwise there were tsunamis and earthquakes all over earth) bc it was simply in order to display that they have lot of power and energy , that pretty much it . that not meant to take as actual AP feat because that has nothing to do with AP, if anything it simple range of energy .

Nah, that doesn't work. Which one? Which is it?

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I'll just re-post the following:

Our power can cause the three realms heavens and the earth to tremble just by a flick of our sleeves.
Our power can cause the three realms heavens and the earth to tremble just by a flick of our sleeves.

The kanji used by Senjumaru for "heaven and earth" is tenchi. Tenchi is used figuratively, it does not literally mean "the planet and the atmosphere". The kanji means "everything in existence". And even though it's supposed to be used figuratively, Senjumaru just so happens to reaffirm what she said a bit later. I guess I could also add that in Buddhism, the kanji in question is correlated to the entire universe and Buddhism is so relevant in Bleach that PhD students write academic works about its symbolism in the series. So, yes, she did shake the entire universe there.

But saying that after her true power was unsealed, it just hopscotched through all the space and meticulously just shook one planet is quite ridiculous to say the least.

Yeah, I don't see how it gets any clearer than this.

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Once more, just to make it clear: the kanji "tenchi" doesn't mean "planet and atmosphere" or heaven as in Soul Society planet and earth as in World of the Living planet. That's taking it literally when it's used figuratively. The kanji explicitly means "all of creation"/"everything in existence". Furthermore, Senjumaru uses "sangai tenchi" which is used to refer to the three realms of existence in Buddhism which form the universe.

Sorry, not sorry. Bleach is just built like that. I've been saying universal god tiers for years now. It seems as though the anime will finally do me justice.

For the billionth time, probably.

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Yhwach murderstomps the HST including Boruto. Been doing so for about 8 years now.