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@thatduderox: correct, hard to argue with that.

But then again he punched the soldier like an average human. The movie just did a poor job of portraying it maybe. These recent years they also put comedy and throwback moments above logic, so him holding SB could have been done just for gags...

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@barelyaverage17: that's assuming if Loki doesn't pull off illusions on them and turn some of them into frogs. His reaction time and environment awareness is really good by how he caught Barton's arrow. If he's got knowledge on the team and enters the fight like a true trickster should, team is in trouble. I can see Loki using a distraction or explosion to its advantage and take a disguise of another team member, while turning anyone's appearance into Loki.

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@sonath: Tony didn't really hold his own in a serious fight. Whedon's team also confirmed in the interview that if Thor got serious iron man is toast. This was pretty apparent if you noticed Thor's body language. his jab could spin the Hulk 360 degrees, but it didn't do jack to iron man, he was obviously holding back. Thor acknowledged him as mortal, and so would never exert his true strength on him. Only to assert dominance.

In Civil war when Rhodey fell, Tony used an exterior mechanism to take off the face armor. But in Avengers, Thor just instantly ripped out Tony's facemask when he thought he was dead. That's how easily he can rip him open if he wanted to.

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@barelyaverage17: what I meant is he can grab him before Thor can even close the distance. He's quicker too, makes the grabbing that much easier and clean

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@vrrzz: There is nothing that puts IW Thor over Endgame Thor. Not in terms of durability or striking. You keep saying Kurse stomped Thor more than Thanos did but if he truly did why wasn't Thor knocked out? Please explain this to me instead of ignoring it. If you can't do this then don't respond back to me.

I keep saying that?? Lol I don't even remember making that comparison to Thanos since he's the only one who knocked him out cold with brute force so quickly. Screenshot that convo if you're so convinced I said it.

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@rajjarsalt: True, although to be fair, Thanos didn't compete with an angrier Hulk, just the base...not that he'll have a problem knocking his teeth out, just won't overpower him so easily..

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@rajjarsalt: there is an 'unstoppable' aspect of Mjolnir shown to us when it's used in certain ways...if Thor was calling Mjolnir back and Hulk catches it, he's going to get dragged along with it like a weightless object. Mjolnir treated Quicksilver and Hulk as the same weight (zero), due to its enchantment. Thor himself said nothing can stop Mjolnir from returning to my hand (except Hela's power over it). So barring magic.

If Thor wants to use that aspect of Mjolnir which treated QS, Hulk, and the fire dragon as essentially nothing, the axe would have hit thanos in under a second..but if that aspect isn't used Mjolnir doesn't seem to be doing anything special with regards to adding its own momentum (unless striking the enemy). Or else Ironmans flight wouldn't have overpowered Thor's flight in the forest fight, and the Frost giant wouldn't have blocked Thor's hand when he swung at him.

Here's what I think happened..

When Thor latched Mjolnir to SB axe head he was being clever. Cuz even if Thanos manages to push the axe handle away, the axe head would still fall directly on him due to physics. And if he doesn't push it away he dies anyway. Thanos was just more clever and experienced at the end to knock the handle down.

Sometimes when Thor flies he doesn't spin the hammer, he calls it from afar and takes him with its momentum in a trajectory that seems to be as long as Thor wishes it to be ( Plus with a sonic boom) ....if Thanos resisted that particular aspect of the hammer that picked up Thor and created a Sonic boom..on top of Thor's two handed strength, that would be ridiculously inconsistent...since he failed to plunge the axe in one hand earlier.

He doesn't need to portrayed stronger than Hulk to do that, since Thanos was using only 1 arm.

Btw In the gladiator battle there was an instance where Thor was portrayed stronger for only a moment but it was subtle. When you're standing still, To block an axe hit from a leaping bigger enemy with a flimsy sword, you have to be much stronger than him, it's physics..

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@rajjarsalt: when you say leverage behind the weapons what exactly do mean.. because some say that Thor used his TK connection to the hammers for doing this...I don't think that's the case since he's not been shown to use TK like that before. Only for calling it back to himself. And with SB he can control it for changing direction which can be helpful here but I doubt it's pointing to that..Now with Thor's constant upgrades it is possible he can do this but if he's using pure strength it's not inconsistent either.. Slow the clip down when Thanos tries to stab Thor with the axe we see that his one hand is not a match for Thor's 2.

He certainly had the better grip advantage to use his strength better for the forward motion I'll give you that..