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@boogie123: Yes it was a speculation that i said was a speculation back then even, what's the problem?

I am not gonna stop speculating, speculating about comics is half the fun and there is no harm in it, since it's SPECULATION, not the word of law.

I don't think i can take accusations of fanboyism seriously from you lol. Don't you have some infinity feat to wank from Superman?

You know you've hit rock bottom when your entire existence on this site from what i have seen is to go around piggy backing off other peoples arguments say 1-2 vapid lines, never engage and also make factually untrue accusation.

My entire argument is that Hulk being the nexus of the multiverse did NOT make him multiversal or anything remotely close to that, just how Yhwach holding 3 dimensions does not make him planetary by proxy, but who cares about that? We gotta build up a strawman of someone we disagree with.

8 pages for 1 being that casually destroys planets, vaporizes billions of beings, some of which more powerful than anything in Bleach vs someone who is none of that yet somehow is UBER HAX despite spending his time struggling and ultimately losing against country level at best Bleach fodder.

Absorbing man isn't the new Red Hulk, he is not even a Hulk. There is nothing to agree or disagree it's just a factually false statement and the only reason you are pushing against it now is because you can't admit you made a slight error.

I don't agree with that assertion, as i've seen nothing to support that claim other than people making their own interpertations of it. Besides i've already shown why holding together something doesn't make you even remotely close to that in any level, mainly Hulk holding the multiverse through him.

I've seen no feats to suggest Sanct Altar will work.

I haven't seen Yhwach make anything lethal to a being of Hulks level.

Hulk already resisted reality warping on a planetary level, Yhwach isn't even on that level, so it's fine.

Yhwach never obliterated molecules of someone on Hulks level.

Because of Almighty he will likely find that nothing will work, except maybe BFR. Which is the one thing that works for weaker opponents against stronger ones.

@heterodoxy: This is the mistake you've been making all this time while thinking feats was the only way to solve this seemingly "NLF". You can't compare Yhwach and Hulk's powers since they work in entirely different ways. Even the context of both situations are totally different, Yhwach wasn't taking any damage from holding the worlds together while Hulk was. Yhwach was using his power (his Reiatsu has I have explained countless times) to keep them in place while Hulk just seems to have been a victim of something.

It's not actually a mistake, the fact that you don't think feats are the answer shows that everything that i have been saying so far is true. You guys work entirely off NLF, you don't need feats, feats are not important because Yhwach can do anything he wants to almost any other character because he did it to some fodder. Shifting the goal post. Yes because Hulk wasn't holding worlds together, he was holding the multiverse.... That is actually completely irrelevant and is a matter of circumstances, Hulk got in a situation he didn't chose but he was in that situation never the less.

Got any other scans of it, doesn't look like a galaxy sized room to me.

I'm not emotional when I say you're a lost cause, unless being tired of denial and deflection is an emotion.

You clearly are, this is getting to you, you are getting frustrated. Especially since everything you are accusing me of here can be easily applied to you. The denial of feats, the deflection of arguments(shifting the goal post) and showing clear frustration.

I mean i can keep this up forever, i have been on these forums for years and i have had heated arguments that have resulted in people actually getting banned, so we can keep going indefinitely if you want, just don't do something you will regret later.

@diydeath: I understand that, but Sanct Altar has no feats of stealing powers of someone on Hulks level.

I pushed back because what you said was literally incorrect and still is. It wasn't Rulk it was Absorbing Man who has his own draining abilities granted by Loki decades ago, amped further by Rulks draining abilities, which is what made him red. Again this was not Red Hulk, this was Absorbing Man AKA Carl Crusher Creel.

That is kind of a moot point since absorbing ANYONES energy would mess them up. But we will see just how messed up Hulk is because with him being drained he is still going to fight a multiversal entity no less.

@heterodoxy: Does this mean Hulk has Multiversal durability? No. Does this apply to Yhwach? No.

Of course he doesn't. It applies in the sense that holding dimensions or universes or whatever isn't the sign of how much damage you can dish out and take in turn.

For that we simply need... FEATS.

Again with the same lame excuse. Not an argument. The galaxy room will absorb the gamma rays since it is galaxy sized, or rather there is a galaxy inside it.

I wanna see this room considering i've seen galaxies that can fit in the palm of ones hand, but sure if it's the real deal, sure Yhwach can finally win via BFR. You can relax now.

Don't project yourself.

Oh no i am too going out for some fresh air, you need to chill out a bit. Not get so emotional over something so meaningless.

If this was regular She-Hulk, i'd give it to Thor.

With current She-Hulk... whose seemingly amped to be around at least pre-core breach Hulk levels.

I'd probably give it to the team.

@heterodoxy: >literally after I finished pointing out how twice

So basically you have nothing here, me just challenging you is you seeing as me ignoring the argument. Perfect way to twist anything to your liking.

Where does it say he tanked or held a Multiverse together?

He was the nexus of the Multiverse, all of it was flowing through him, it's already stated and once it tore him apart the entire multiverse would tear apart, does it need to spoon feed you some more?

This might be easier for you to understand. He'll imagine a galaxy room where his right arm is and close it, then left, then the legs, etc. I'm not even going to bother with the rest, go take some logic classes. Lost cause.

Good he has any feats for doing all that, particularly against a being that constantly busts out an omnidirectional gamma burst powerful enough to decimate a planet. Go... just go, i think you need fresh air.

No he drained Sasquatch in issue 5, most of the feats are before that issue, also he has been human since then for days so either the power went away or it became permanent part of him.

Either way now that Creel has drained most of Hulks power, i can't wait to see the excuses for the number of feats Hulk will rack up in the future, especially seeing as Al promised he will only keep throwing more and more powerful opponents at him.

There's gonna be lots of salt mining in 2019, i can already tell.

@heterodoxy:

LOL

I have already explained that I meant Abstracts are outside space-time in the sense that neither space or time can affect them. They transcend space-time.

That wouldn't be correct either since time and space have affected them in time and space stone have been used to beat a few of them before.

While somehow ignoring it, like I just pointed out above and right below.

How can i simultaneously challenge and ignore what you say, you are not making sense.

You are a lost cause.

Irony strikes again.

Did you read the scan you just posted? It is stated clear as day that Hulk is becoming stronger from receiving all that energy which is why he managed to pull that off.

It's tearing him apart actually, you didn't read the second part? It makes him stronger, not tougher, in fact his durability was at an all time low during that time. He lost a fight to a T-rex, got injured by random missiles which surprised him and everyone else and got stabbed by street signs which also surprised everyone.

If you want i can provide feats for this as well although you can read it all in the context files where it was already explained

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/hulk-187/context-files-hulk-vol1-1577088/?page=1

There's no logical difference whatsoever between him baking a cake and destroying Hulk if he has the power to do both which he has. You really are weak with logic.

There is, anyone can bake a cake if they learn the recipe. Not everyone can destroy the Hulk if they don't already have the power to do so, Yhwach lacks the power to do so. I don't think you want to be talking about logic you just compared beating someone in a fight to watching TV.

Do you have feats of him watching movies? You just contradicted yourself. You say Yhwach can watch movies because he has the power to do it (his eyes) but he can't destroy Hulk when he has the power to do it (his Reiatsu).

LOOOOOOOOOL. Watching movies does not require feats, ANYONE can watch movies as long as they can see. Destroying Hulk is not comparable to this because he doesn't have the feats of destroying ANY being of planetary level. Dude..... What even is this nonsense lol.

Do you know what an analogy is? Analogies are apt comparisons.

Great analogy, comparing things not even remotely similar. Keep it up.

The rift will open where he is, not in front of him where he can punch it because if this can happen Yhwach will see it. If he closes the rift he traps himself inside lol

He... he can punch downwards as well...