VanTesla

What caused the Dreaming Celestial to be controlled by Sinister?... With the Celestials background, how could they not know about this until now? The only way this could make sense is it is some sort of test or experiment they are conducting. Anything else could make the comic look dumb to me...

The only problem I still have is with the costume... She needs shorter hair as well in my opinion. Also no high heels for dang sake...

Rather they just do another kind of X-Men: Evolution or Wolverine and the X-Men... I wish they did not cancle it. :(

America is not the land of the free.

Every State should have the death penalty and not cost so much.

Certain unions need more regulations, but every State should have the right to have a union (right to work can kiss my toosh).

Smoking and alcohol should be wiped from existence.

Harsher food regulations.

Religion needs to be seperate from State like it is suppose to be.

Woman deserve all the equality men receive, but jobs that require certain physical requirements like Firefighters on field should not be changed when it comes to life and death situations.

Affirmative Action is the wrong way of creating worker equallity and people better suited get denied constantly.

Having bases in most countries around the world cause hate towards America and gives enemies support by the people.

The forced immigration laws are too extreme in certain states and cause more problems than solution.

Thats it for now.

@Erik said:

@VanTesla said:

I was talking about the patch of black ice, not the speeding...

Fine. Say your speeding and crash because you are just a terrible driver. Are you then a murderer?

Going by logic the person should not be driving then...

@Erik said:

@eatmore_payless said:

I think you are not getting my point. what Im trying to say is whenever the kids die from a villain attack or something stupid, Bat's is all to blame, know why? Because he has the full responsibility for the kids and he would go to jail weather he like it or not

Irrelevant.

@VanTesla said:

It is not irrelevant and it is a bad comparison. One has a human element as the main factor for the cause of death and the other has nature as the main cause of death.

You can't compare a humans actions to natural occurrences.

Actually, it is irrelevant and is just a stupid a comparison as the ones you have been trying to force feed me. Driving at unsafe velocities is a human action, not natural occurrence.

@VanTesla said:

Batman could have said no and keep them from doing so. He is a control freak and has done things to people before, little success though.

Wrong. He could have said no but he could not have stopped anyone. If not for Batman, Jason would have starved to death or been killed in a hobo knife fight. Dick probably would have committed suicide. Tim would probably have tried to become a crime fighter without any kind of training and would have immediately been killed and so on.

I was talking about the patch of black ice, not the speeding... He could have still adopt both Dick and Jason and cared for them like a good father. He could have taugh Tim to be patient and wait till he was older, teach him how to investigate without brining him, and tell him how he would miss his childhood like he did because of what he went through.

I am not trying to force feed you anything, I am giving you my opinion on the matter as you are to me.

@Erik said:

@VanTesla said:

If you neglect your child and they die under your care it can be considered murder, not feeding them, taking them to a know place that people get killed in, sending them into places that will likely get them killed, and etc.

This is not neglect. I do not think you know what neglect is. A parent living in detroit cannot be charged with neglect and murder because they allow their kid to walk to school in a city where it is very likely that they will be gunned down in a drive by.

If that is not abuse and neglect than I wish to know what you believe those to be... A parent can't be charged for such and should not be, but that is still no comparison to what Batman does and thinking so is a bit silly in my opinion. Also if I was a parent I would not live in that pile and have my kid take a bus or drive them to school if it is far and depending on the age of the child and if he or she has other people with them.

@eatmore_payless said:

@Erik said:

@VanTesla said:

@eatmore_payless said:

@Erik said:

@VanTesla said:

@Erik: In the movies he has killed, in the JLU he has killed Black Manta (he was possessed by Dead Man though), He killed Darksied, he has killed in alternate versions of himself, his creations of AI have killed humans though he did not want that, having young teenagers like Jason fight with him and dieing is his fault, no sane person would have a kid risk their life and witness such vile.

Movies are not canon to the comics. He did not kill Darksied. He shot him to weaken him. He did endanger the lives of his Robins but he did not kill them.

what he mean is that lives of his Robins lies in his fateful hands, if im not mistaken

Exactly. It can be considered as abuse and endangerment. Those are considered in court as murder.

No they are not. If you endanger someone's life by taking them on some dangerous endeavor, you might get charged with manslaughter at worse if they die.

Dude the Robins joined the Batman on his crime fighting knowing that they might get killed, So as a responsible adult Batman took all the responsibilities including the safety of their lives

Batman could have said no and keep them from doing so. He is a control freak and has done things to people before, little success though.

@Erik said:

@VanTesla said:

@Erik said:

@VanTesla said:

@Erik: But like I said before, comics have almost zero canon and he has killed in alternate comics. Also I believe if you put people in danger and they die you are as much to blame for their death.

Alternate reality comics are unimportant. So when you take your sister on a drive on the freeway and you hit a patch of black ice and crash, you think you are responsible for her death? You knowingly endangered her life by letting her get into your car that you knew would be driving at an excess of 50mph after all.

That is not the same and is a bad comparison. You can't blame the driver for outside elements that are out of his control, but you can blame him for recluse driving by breaking the speed limit and chasing after violent people that is knowingly putting other people in danger.

It is not a bad comparison. It is just as irrelevant as your comparison, which is the point.

It is not irrelevant and it is a bad comparison. One has a human element as the main factor for the cause of death and the other has nature as the main cause of death.

You can't compare a humans actions to natural occurrences.

@Erik said:

@VanTesla said:

@eatmore_payless said:

@Erik said:

@VanTesla said:

@Erik: In the movies he has killed, in the JLU he has killed Black Manta (he was possessed by Dead Man though), He killed Darksied, he has killed in alternate versions of himself, his creations of AI have killed humans though he did not want that, having young teenagers like Jason fight with him and dieing is his fault, no sane person would have a kid risk their life and witness such vile.

Movies are not canon to the comics. He did not kill Darksied. He shot him to weaken him. He did endanger the lives of his Robins but he did not kill them.

what he mean is that lives of his Robins lies in his fateful hands, if im not mistaken

Exactly. It can be considered as abuse and endangerment. Those are considered in court as murder.

No they are not. If you endanger someone's life by taking them on some dangerous endeavor, you might get charged with manslaughter at worse if they die.

If you neglect your child and they die under your care it can be considered murder, not feeding them, taking them to a know place that people get killed in, sending them into places that will likely get them killed, and etc.