Valkaad

I think Batman is smarter and a better speaker so on the surface it would seem Batman would win the debate. That being said, I think Batman is a man on the edge. Punisher could probably point out how many innocent lives have been lost as a result of The Joker alone. Add in all of Batmans other psycho rogues gallery and you are looking at thousands of innocent deaths that could have been prevented by taking the criminals life. In the end I think batman would see Franks side easier than Frank would see his.

Galactus converts them into energy and absorbs them.

How does she hurt superman at all?

Is this comic conan? If so Drogo gets DOMINATED!

@a88378438 said:

the earth is 6,585,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons(21 zero)>>>>>>>>>18 zero

@Valkaad said:

None of them are using strength other than grip power to hold on to the lasso. The pulling is being done by their flight power. Pulling an object and pressing it over head are light years apart in terms of strength. Mark Kirsch pulled a 205,000 lb plane 100ft, but wouldn't come close to military pressing even 600lbs.

Superman pressing 200 quintillion tons is far and away more impressive and he does it with one hand. Its not even a contest, it isn't even in the same leaque, heck it isn't even the same sport.

All Star superman also uses his thumb and index finger to pick up a key that weighs 500,000 tons and he does it with ease.

i will use this"Mark Kirsch pulled a 205,000 lb plane 100ft, but wouldn't come close to military pressing even 600lbs"

even she just lift 1/1000 of the earth ton is 19zero tons,this also > 18 zero,wonder woman and superman Quick move moon

But she isn't lifting anything she didn't lift 1/1000 of the earth she pulled it with her flight power (with superman and manhunter helping her to boot). The point of the airplane pull was to show that pulling an object is nothing compared to pressing it. That being said, a Strongman pulling an object is even more a physical strength feat than Wonder woman pulling the planet because strongmen are using all muscle to pull the plane and wonder woman is using her flight power. The only physical strength she is showing is gripping the rope the rest of it is flight.

All Star Superman was supersaturated with solar energy after a trip to the sun. Like is said, he picked up a 500,000 ton key with two fingers easily.

Wonderwoman isn't in that league and the one strength feat being shown is a flight towing feat in the weightlessness of space. Once their flight locomotion got it moving it would actually drift along, albeit not as fast, by itself.

@Gambit1024: I agree. When cap had the SSS purged from his system he made the statement that Crossbones was as tough a character as he ever faced.

@Morpheus_: Thanks. Is that a pretty good comic?

Also, would you give crossbones 800lb strength like cap? 750 like BP? 650 LIke Kingpin?

Also, would you give crossbones 800lb strength like cap? 750 like BP? 650 LIke Kingpin?

None of them are using strength other than grip power to hold on to the lasso. The pulling is being done by their flight power. Pulling an object and pressing it over head are light years apart in terms of strength. Mark Kirsch pulled a 205,000 lb plane 100ft, but wouldn't come close to military pressing even 600lbs.

Superman pressing 200 quintillion tons is far and away more impressive and he does it with one hand. Its not even a contest, it isn't even in the same leaque, heck it isn't even the same sport.

All Star superman also uses his thumb and index finger to pick up a key that weighs 500,000 tons and he does it with ease.