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LOL I love it.

I accept your concession because that's all this tragic attempt at a rebuttal was.

In conclusion. You proved what we have always known. You are a DC low-baller who can't even properly defend your stance. You discredit superior feats, misrepresent the ones you can't discredit, and ignore the ones you can't argue against lol.

You repeat arguments and post a feat and desperately hype it in hopes that it saves you. It doesn't lol.

HOM Wanda is rivaled by meta-humans, vastly outclassed by Mxy, Batmite, and any other high level Imp via feats of not only destroying universes casually, but treating the entire multiverse as the lower dimensional play thing that it is.

LMAO! You entertained me! Thank you for that.

OT: Team DC sweeps. Wanda would die here from the collateral damage.

Which concession ?

That's a pathetic answer when I clearly didn't concede anything.

You are trying to argue with your opinion against what's in the story and writer's words.

You are using fallacious arguments and like I've said to the other user, if the writer's words makes you salty, go complain to him.

I don't care about how does that makes you feel.

OT:

Team Marvel stomps.

DC high tier standards are ridiculously low when they can't even equal a Marvel character with a random power-up.

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I accept your concession because that's all this tragic attempt at a rebuttal was.

In conclusion. You proved what we have always known. You are a DC low-baller who can't even properly defend your stance. You discredit superior feats, misrepresent the ones you can't discredit, and ignore the ones you can't argue against lol.

You repeat arguments and post a feat and desperately hype it in hopes that it saves you. It doesn't lol.

HOM Wanda is rivaled by meta-humans, vastly outclassed by Mxy, Batmite, and any other high level Imp via feats of not only destroying universes casually, but treating the entire multiverse as the lower dimensional play thing that it is.

LMAO! You entertained me! Thank you for that.

OT: Team DC sweeps. Wanda would die here from the collateral damage.

It's not my opinion. It's a fact.

You didn't show me anything. You posted a tweet that is outdated and no longer applicable, misrepresented a statement to try to make it support your argument, then you pretended to know what you were talking about by using Hypertime to dismiss the Elseworlds story (WF) when:

A) Convergence canonizes EVERY arc and reality of DC past, including Elseworlds, which is where World's Funniest took place.

B) Mxy and other high level Imps are not even subject to Hypertime as they travel through it and manipulate it freely (easily multiversal). So even if a reality isn't canon to Hypertime, Mxy himself exists beyond Hypertime, and is canon to ALL his iterations, meaning he doesn't need it to make WF canon anyway.

C) Again, Dan Didio already overrode Evan Dorkin's statement and made all of Elseworlds canon. World's funniest is an Elseworlds story. He confirms this in this interview I already linked you.

http://www.multiversitycomics.com/interviews/dan-didio-2017/

Ignore it all you want, but it isn't going anywhere. Everyone can see it for themselves too. Pretending like feats aren't real, or acting like they don't count isn't helping you anymore. You've hit a wall. WF Mxy is canon to both DC Convergence and Mxy himself. Still waiting on you to show me ANYONE in Marvel doing anything close to obliderating their multiverse and bringing it back casually. You know you can't, so now you go back to pretending to know anything about what is "canon" and what isn't in a desperate attempt to ignore superior feats that crush your stance.

It doesn't matter how much you want it to be "real", the whole story, put in the continuity or not, is a "dream sequence".

It's said on the first panel, it is confirmed twice by the writter...

So no, Dan Didio making the Elseworlds canon doesn't negate the nature of the story which isn't real.

Next.

*Yawn*

You know you're being wrecked in a debate of this sort when you try to find low showings (with no context mind you) for characters in an attempt to dismiss their best consistent showings LMBO! Did it make you feel better to sift through google images desperately trying to find Mxy low showings? You think that's going to stop his high ends feats for crapping all over HOM Wanda?

Wow ! That absolutely countered every single defeat that Mxy got, I mean, lost to an amped Superboy Prime, even after recovering his full power, thus Mxy being weaker than Monarch, lost to Gog, got his ass burned to crisp by Trigon.

Yet you acknowledged that all of his feats are canon to him. Too bad, isn't it ?

Oh and yeah, his best feat doesn't exist because it's made-up/a dream sequence.

What's funny here, is that HOM Wanda isn't even her standard self as she never displays that sort of power consistently. Everybody has low showings, and since Mxy is one with all his iterations, even his standard feats makes HOM Wanda unimpressive whereas her standard feats gets blown out of the verse by Mxy's lol. You tried it lol.

Yeah and that's the point, even a character with a so random power-up like HOM Wanda is beyond the like of Mr Mxy and your little Humans with Wings <3

HOM Wanda remade the reality to the point it was impossible to make the difference between what the reality used to be and what she changed in it.

Mxy "at base" casually creates universes out of thin air. This is Franklin Richard levels worth of power displayed just as casually.

He can also manipulate the universe on a whim. Joker with 99% of his power reshaped and rewrote the Universe.

He can also destroy the universe, and casually remake it.

And with that 99% of power, EJ was going to indeed destroy all Universes, past, present, and future, everything.

Viewing and playing with the multiverse and it's heroes as a 3-D plaything, while also confirming that his kind are beyond Hypertime.

Even more higher dimensional shenanigans...playing with beings of the 3-d multiverse likes toys while shaping 3-d space/time as a 2-d boardgame.

Kid Franklin Richards did better than that...

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Regarding his destructive power. He can indeed destroy the entire multiverse.

He cannot one-shot the multiverse which is the point.

His fight with Bat-mite from Rebirth was slooooowly unraveling the reality, nothing to boast about.

And this is confirmed in his most recent JL appearance. Mxy is literally un-imagining EVERYTHING in EXISTENCE.

Yeah,

ultra slowly. HOM Wanda did better with just the Chaos Wave. <3

And none of these are from World's Funnest. So I don't know where you get of with saying things like:

I don't care World's Funnest doesn't count.

Wanda doesn't stand a chance against any 5-d imp and again, you know that. Her feat of reshaping the Marvel Universe is something metahumans can do in DC. Jenny Fractural was destroying every dimensions in the New 52 multiverse. Mxy would utterly destory Wanda while he treats her like a origami.

*Sighs* I don't care HOW MANY times you try to insult or low ball or taunt these DC characters, it will never put your favs in their league and it will certainly NEVER be an argument.

Michael and Lucifer alone have feats that surpass the Beyonder, let alone Wanda. There are several threads that prove this. In Marvel, everyone aside from TOAA himself would get wrecked via feats.

*ouch ouch ouch*

My abs are starting to hurt under the pressure of my constant laughter...

There are beings vastly less powerful than the angels with better feats than everyone on team Marvel. If you want to disagree, I can simply list feats that you would need to find a character replicating to the same degree.

LMAO! If you see them as merely two humans with wings, that just makes your favorite universe even worse because if a human with wings has the feats to wreck a guy who wrecked the entire Marvel cosmic hierarchy, you're in trouble lol.

Mxy treating his multiverse like paper is >>>>>>>>> anything HOM Wanda did and him actually un-imagining existence is >>>>>>> HOM Wanda could ever hope to do. Mxy decreating the multiverse and recreating it is >>>>>>>>>>>anyone in Marvel.

And again, Mxy is admittedly below these guys. If you want to argue...POST THE FEATS that are superior. Find me anyone in marvel who did what WF Mxy did. Find me anyone who did what Lucifer and Michael and even the Endless have done to the entirety of their respective verses. No more of your insults or your low balls or your sad attempts to discredit canons. I'm calling your bluff.

Just Wanda's feat is above and beyond them.

I'm cool with that...

I don't even need to go deep into Marvel's cosmology or reality warping characters vastly above HOM Wanda.

WF Mxy is canon and I've provided you with up to date evidence and resources as well as on panel confirmations that it is. Stop using that argument because you know he murders Wanda. And low showings aren't "true power levels" because if they are, HOM Wanda doesn't even exist. Try again.

Also, Mxy being a "gag" character doesn't mean his feat don't count. That's ridiculous. Why on earth would the current Mxy not count??? Where in the JL comics did it say he was a Gag, and therefore we can't use his showings??? What volume and what page did you read this? Evidence? Or is this just you doing what you always do? PROOF PLEASE?

I didn't talk about the nature of Mxy, I was talking about the nature of the story.

Really now, all that you've got is using a strawman...

The whole World's Funnest is a dream sequence. It doesn't count.

Try to follow the conversation a little bit more, using such tactics is a bit obvious.

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@theanimal666: TBH HOM Wanda wasn't as impressive as WF Mxy and she couldn't even control her power.

She completely changed the reality and affected all realities as a side effect.

WF Mxy was a gag, even in the new edition (2019) so it doesn't count, it doesn't reflect the true power of the character as I posted several examples above.

WF Mxy is canon and I've provided you with up to date evidence and resources as well as on panel confirmations that it is. Stop using that argument because you know he murders Wanda. And low showings aren't "true power levels" because if they are, HOM Wanda doesn't even exist. Try again.

Also, Mxy being a "gag" character doesn't mean his feat don't count. That's ridiculous. Why on earth would the current Mxy not count??? Where in the JL comics did it say he was a Gag, and therefore we can't use his showings??? What volume and what page did you read this? Evidence? Or is this just you doing what you always do? PROOF PLEASE?

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@theanimal666:

1) That still doesn't count. I have already shown WHY that particular story isn't considered canon and the writer confirmed it so I don't care about your opinion.

It's not my opinion. It's a fact.

You didn't show me anything. You posted a tweet that is outdated and no longer applicable, misrepresented a statement to try to make it support your argument, then you pretended to know what you were talking about by using Hypertime to dismiss the Elseworlds story (WF) when:

A) Convergence canonizes EVERY arc and reality of DC past, including Elseworlds, which is where World's Funniest took place.

B) Mxy and other high level Imps are not even subject to Hypertime as they travel through it and manipulate it freely (easily multiversal). So even if a reality isn't canon to Hypertime, Mxy himself exists beyond Hypertime, and is canon to ALL his iterations, meaning he doesn't need it to make WF canon anyway.

C) Again, Dan Didio already overrode Evan Dorkin's statement and made all of Elseworlds canon. World's funniest is an Elseworlds story. He confirms this in this interview I already linked you.

http://www.multiversitycomics.com/interviews/dan-didio-2017/

Ignore it all you want, but it isn't going anywhere. Everyone can see it for themselves too. Pretending like feats aren't real, or acting like they don't count isn't helping you anymore. You've hit a wall. WF Mxy is canon to both DC Convergence and Mxy himself. Still waiting on you to show me ANYONE in Marvel doing anything close to obliderating their multiverse and bringing it back casually. You know you can't, so now you go back to pretending to know anything about what is "canon" and what isn't in a desperate attempt to ignore superior feats that crush your stance.

2) If you want to use that weakling as Mxy, be my guest...

*Yawn*

You know you're being wrecked in a debate of this sort when you try to find low showings (with no context mind you) for characters in an attempt to dismiss their best consistent showings LMBO! Did it make you feel better to sift through google images desperately trying to find Mxy low showings? You think that's going to stop his high ends feats for crapping all over HOM Wanda?

What's funny here, is that HOM Wanda isn't even her standard self as she never displays that sort of power consistently. Everybody has low showings, and since Mxy is one with all his iterations, even his standard feats makes HOM Wanda unimpressive whereas her standard feats gets blown out of the verse by Mxy's lol. You tried it lol.

Mxy "at base" casually creates universes out of thin air. This is Franklin Richard levels worth of power displayed just as casually.

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He can also manipulate the universe on a whim. Joker with 99% of his power reshaped and rewrote the Universe.

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He can also destroy the universe, and casually remake it.

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And with that 99% of power, EJ was going to indeed destroy all Universes, past, present, and future, everything.

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Viewing and playing with the multiverse and it's heroes as a 3-D plaything, while also confirming that his kind are beyond Hypertime.

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Even more higher dimensional shenanigans...playing with beings of the 3-d multiverse likes toys while shaping 3-d space/time as a 2-d boardgame.

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Regarding his destructive power. He can indeed destroy the entire multiverse.

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And this is confirmed in his most recent JL appearance. Mxy is literally un-imagining EVERYTHING in EXISTENCE.

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And none of these are from World's Funnest. So I don't know where you get of with saying things like:

Lucifer & Michael aren't even high tier to Marvel, they are just humans with wings.

HOM Wanda would stomp Mxy and them too

Wanda doesn't stand a chance against any 5-d imp and again, you know that. Her feat of reshaping the Marvel Universe is something metahumans can do in DC. Jenny Fractural was destroying every dimensions in the New 52 multiverse. Mxy would utterly destory Wanda while he treats her like a origami.

*Sighs* I don't care HOW MANY times you try to insult or low ball or taunt these DC characters, it will never put your favs in their league and it will certainly NEVER be an argument.

Michael and Lucifer alone have feats that surpass the Beyonder, let alone Wanda. There are several threads that prove this. In Marvel, everyone aside from TOAA himself would get wrecked via feats.

There are beings vastly less powerful than the angels with better feats than everyone on team Marvel. If you want to disagree, I can simply list feats that you would need to find a character replicating to the same degree.

LMAO! If you see them as merely two humans with wings, that just makes your favorite universe even worse because if a human with wings has the feats to wreck a guy who wrecked the entire Marvel cosmic hierarchy, you're in trouble lol.

Mxy treating his multiverse like paper is >>>>>>>>> anything HOM Wanda did and him actually un-imagining existence is >>>>>>> HOM Wanda could ever hope to do. Mxy decreating the multiverse and recreating it is >>>>>>>>>>>anyone in Marvel.

And again, Mxy is admittedly below these guys. If you want to argue...POST THE FEATS that are superior. Find me anyone in marvel who did what WF Mxy did. Find me anyone who did what Lucifer and Michael and even the Endless have done to the entirety of their respective verses. No more of your insults or your low balls or your sad attempts to discredit canons. I'm calling your bluff.

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@theanimal666:

The story didn't count.

Nice try bringing it anyways.

I'm glad you thought you did something. It's cute.

KMC member Mr Master stalking the writer to get the answer he wants was sad, The writer was telling him all comics are made up, when weirdos stalk them and press them on hypernerd crap, this is their response.

Evan Dorkins doesn't have a say in this anymore, no matter what his intention was, later writers has made it canon.

There are on panel ACTUAL evidences, from ACTUAL comics, which canonizes each and every appearance Mxy has EVER made... Across ALL forms of media.

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""I was part of it from the beginning, the comics, the toys, I was on the cartoon show, this thing between me and your pop, it spans realities. what's life and death in this world are pages in a coloring book one dimension over. I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES THE BIG PICTURE. THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN POP FROM WORLD TO WORLD. "

There are plethora of evidences of all Mxy appearances being canon actually.

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And about Hypertime, if you believe that the main editor, Dan Didio, was thinking about that particular story when he made the side stories canon, you're dead wrong.

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Mxy freely travels through Hypertime as the 5 dimension is not bound by it. So I don't even need to use it to connect the WF arc lol. Both Didio and Covergence and Mxy himself canonizes it.

Using your wog logic against you. Dan Didio already overrode Evan Dorkin's statement and made all of Elseworlds canon. World's funniest is an Elseworlds story.

http://www.multiversitycomics.com/interviews/dan-didio-2017/

Nice try though.

I've already posted HOM Wanda. That's enough

LMBO! HOM Wanda wouldn't even tickle anyone on Team DC. Reshaping the Marvel multiverse? That's the best you got? That puts her at EJ level lol. And even then, EJ whooped Spectre so Wanda doesn't even have that luxury.

Mxy would slaughter Wanda via feats and you know that. The Endless would slaughter Wanda via feats and give the Marvel team up there Hell. Death alone has superior feats that anyone on that list and none of them are on the level of the archangels.

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So much hype for DC when a LOT of Marvel characters already did better and they aren't even top tier...

Not to be rude, but are you ever going to post feats, or are you just going to keep passive aggressively posting on these threads?

You do know that Mxy has better feats that all of Marvel top tiers especially since he is a single entity right? And not even he is as powerful as the Endless, and he is admittedly less powerful than Perpetua's children. His WF feats, which are canon to him, blow anything anyone in Marvel has done. Wiping out the whole multiverse and all alternate timelines and realities, then bringing it back with a snap, is something no one in Marvel has ever done. Aside from that, he has insane multiversal manipulation feats still. If Marvel did that or anything better...SHOW US.

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Strange has EoA and knows what Castiel is.

Cas is aware of how powerful Strange is.

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Thor has Stormbreaker and is aware of Legion's abilities.

Both are bloodlusted.

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THOR

  • StormBreaker and all combat feats to date.

KRYPTONIANS

  • Superman (JL)
  • Faora
  • Zod
  • Nam-Ek
  • DoomsDay

All Kryptonians are in sync and completely adapted. Superman has taught Faora and Nam-Ek how to fly and utilize their extra abilities (Heat Vision, Ice Breath etc...) while Foara and Zod have taught Superman, Nam-Ek, and DD their battle tactics and h2h strategies. Speed, strength, and durability between the Kryptonians is equalized. Who wins? All feats to date apply.

Bonus Round: Hulk, Hulk Buster IM, Loki, and Hela come to aid Thor.

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@cocoussybreaker said:
@useyourname said:
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@omriamar said:
@useyourname said:

Daaang yall. I just did some research.

Thanos with IG > MCU but...

SB tanked IG blast that could wipe out the universe so Thor with SB > Thanos who is > MCU

But Thanos tanked SB to the chest so he is > SB.

But IM made Thanos bleed with bare punches so IM > Thanos and Thor with SB.

But SK staggered Thanos with face strikes so SK = Thanos.

Spidey staggered Thanos too so Spidey = SK = Thanos.

Dang guys, its official. Everyone in Marvel in a universe buster. DCEU is done.

This Post Is So On Point For Real

Tony made Thanos bleed over time which is not a feat. Otherwise, MCU Ghost Rider is as strong as the Hulk for escaping a cage design to hold the Hulk after multiple punches. Also Thanos was not really fighting back against him.

Spiderman didn't even hurt Thanos. Wonder Woman punched Superman a lot and that doesn't make her as strong as him. Smh.

No.

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"Thanos was cut by Tony Stark's swords for crying out loud."

Feat for Tony, not Anti-feat for Thanos. Boi.

You have to make your mind up. It's either a feat or not. If it's a feat for Tony, then yes, the MCU tiering is clusterscrewed and the logic you're trying to discredit above is actually justified. If it is a low showing for Thanos, which is consistent by the way, then it is also a testament to his limited durability, meaning he can't be scaled anywhere near Superman. Let me know when you decide.

Is a feat for Tony's new armor since Vibranium blades couldn't cut Thanos, and Vibranium is very hard to break. It took Tony's lazer, Thor's thunder and Vision's mind stone to break through Ultron new vibranium body.

Yet Scarlette Witch in her debut ripped Ultron's core right through his shell...interesting.