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How is Super Goku not multiversal???? SSJ2 is universal and SSJ3 is universal+, Super scales completely above

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@userthatisme: fyi she didn’t create him. Lucifer getting oneshot in his realm by arranged magic and contain by death of the endless proves he lost to the Basanos who didn’t lift a finger. Which proves that a little foresight can be effective. Dr.m is above the concept of time, death, and magic ! He can be in the same spot where the Basanos first saw the vision of Lucifer fall, and speed up the process or/and be at the spot the basanos setup up Lucifer to get destroyed. Or dr.m can recreate a replica of Lucifer blowing up and put that scenario in his face.

...he never got oneshot in his realm at all. And it wasn't magic they used to harm him. Basanos lifted more than a finger to harm him you illiterate clown, literally was stated they needed help to find the best outcome to kill him AND still failed you blind? Dr m is above no concept, in fact he can be erased and he is still limited to time. Lucifer also doesn't die the way you think he does, lucifer dies by being erased. Basanos also are fodder to wingless lucifer, it is outright stated. They literally cannot do anything to lucifer without finding infinite possibilities to kill him and getting izanami's to help with such. Lucifer cannot die as easily as you assume, DR M cannot do anything above universal. You really are brainless if you think DR M is above that of 1 of the basanos.

Not only have you said nonsense, you are clearly a sladeracer alt. You cannot think and just beg for people who prob think DR M is omnipotent to give you all your shit. Again, Lucifer blinks. A single endless is enough to already spitestomp fodder

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BASANOS NEVER ONE SHOT SHIT LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Lucifer literally was nearly killed by infinite possibilities of his death. BASANOS HAD HELP. A brainless turd like SladerAcer is either illiterate or gets his info from a 3rd source

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I remember Etrigan punking Lucifer and Etrigan was a teenager! Lol, but I guess it was a different version of Lucifer.

It was N52, where every char had such horrible antifeats

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How do you even come to the conclusion that Basanos> Lucifer? Its been consistently shown in the comics that Lucifer is above them. In fact when Basanos enter to take over Lucifer's creation it was a culmination of two or so years of prep for them and they had to wait for Lucifer to exit the Creation. In fact when they use their power on him it does absolutely nothing. Also, simplifying his defeat as just "put 2 feathers inside him" his an understatement. Izanami wove a magic with feathers from Lucifer's own wings that took years to be completed. The magic made Morningstar power attack him from the inside out. It was Lucifer's own power that beat him not the Basanos. And nothing suggests Destiny of the Endless is above him.

I came to that conclusion when i saw basanos killed lucifer in his realm. They used their foresight powers and magic of izanami to achieve it. consistenly lucifer showed he can't tag the basanos head on, and needs to prep himself to fight them. Lucifer challenged destiny if he can do something outside his book, and lost. if he was truly above destiny he would of made his precidtions false. Basanos dethroned him and took over an entire cosmos. Its true that they waited to strike, but so what. mission accomplished. lucifer is a prisoner to predestination. my point exactly.

lucifer wasn't depowered when he got killed and noema is only a fraction of basanos still could of killed him if she wanted to.

They didn't kill Lucifer. It was Lucifer's own power that beat him told in the scan that you intentionally cropped out. This is what happens when Basanos face Lucifer.

Lucifer is a prisoner to predestination of The Presence like everyone including the Destiny himself. And the book is in no way representation of Destiny of the Endless's power. Destiny isn't freed from the book either. And Lucifer escapes predestination eitherway so the whole point is moot. And lol at Noema being able to kill non depowered Lucifer anyway. When she attacks Lucifer he was facing the consequences of just fighting Michael and the Presence leaving. She attacks him when he is bound by his words. The moment he is freed from his word when she plots against him.

Ignore slade, he's an actual idiot

He legit can't think

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@puresan said:
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How do you even come to the conclusion that Basanos> Lucifer? Its been consistently shown in the comics that Lucifer is above them. In fact when Basanos enter to take over Lucifer's creation it was a culmination of two or so years of prep for them and they had to wait for Lucifer to exit the Creation. In fact when they use their power on him it does absolutely nothing. Also, simplifying his defeat as just "put 2 feathers inside him" his an understatement. Izanami wove a magic with feathers from Lucifer's own wings that took years to be completed. The magic made Morningstar power attack him from the inside out. It was Lucifer's own power that beat him not the Basanos. And nothing suggests Destiny of the Endless is above him.

I came to that conclusion when i saw basanos killed lucifer in his realm. They used their foresight powers and magic of izanami to achieve it. consistenly lucifer showed he can't tag the basanos head on, and needs to prep himself to fight them. Lucifer challenged destiny if he can do something outside his book, and lost. if he was truly above destiny he would of made his precidtions false. Basanos dethroned him and took over an entire cosmos. Its true that they waited to strike, but so what. mission accomplished. lucifer is a prisoner to predestination. my point exactly.

lucifer wasn't depowered when he got killed and noema is only a fraction of basanos still could of killed him if she wanted to.

They didn't kill Lucifer. It was Lucifer's own power that beat him told in the scan that you intentionally cropped out. This is what happens when Basanos face Lucifer.

Lucifer is a prisoner to predestination of The Presence like everyone including the Destiny himself. And the book is in no way representation of Destiny of the Endless's power. Destiny isn't freed from the book either. And Lucifer escapes predestination eitherway so the whole point is moot. And lol at Noema being able to kill non depowered Lucifer anyway. When she attacks Lucifer he was facing the consequences of just fighting Michael and the Presence leaving. She attacks him when he is bound by his words. The moment he is freed from his word when she plots against him.

Ignore slade, he's an actual idiot

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@yaroa said:

@userthatisme: Perpetua Created dr.m ?...lmao. If anything she created Yggdrasil which birthed the presence.

In a way she did, she created the resources for earth to use such power for dr m

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@userthatisme: I think vertigo lucifer is more the main luci and the dc versions of Lucifer are forms and aspects too