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Those last few pages are really intriguing.

I read in some article that that Maya girl is the daughter of nobody and she first appeared in Robin: son of batman which i never read, wonder how she knows Jon's identity.

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@jphulk26 said:
@nerevarine_11 said:

Pray to whatever Gods that are left and write my will and testament.

Seconded and cry a lot and try and get some last pussy cause it's over for me. :)

Lol. Same.

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Came across that article, never read it but thought Supes and Lois should be no.1 :)

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The last made me utter the most weird squeal of delight i've ever squealed. It literally gave me goosebumps and made me happy :) All in all a great issue!

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How about a story where the multiverse was created by the sword by accident and it has spent all this time trying to repair the damage it caused.

Superman created the sword in the previous universe but being indestructible it survived the end of his universe and destabilized the next one in the cycle of big bang, big crunch, entropy field, repeat. When superman rejected the sword, off panel it broke apart. its hilt becoming what has kept Kamandi's timeline from vanishing like all the others. Each separate universe has a fragment of the original sword blade. Collect each of these and go back to the entropy field, use the sword's power to stop the big bang. "Tomorrow has been cancelled!"

Originally, before the 1937 comic books started, when the sword showed up in the entropy field the quantum vibrations that go through space were stopped. What had been an almost infinitely complex pattern was stopped dead. The universe that came from it was now overly simplistic. Add a simple time-travel paradox and it explodes into equally simplistic universes with simple waveform vibrations to separate them. Vibrate at a frequency of 1 hertz, 2 Hertz, 3 billion megahertz, etc. and there you have your dimensional walls. Every 'crisis' event after that was the universe trying to recover the original waveform pattern.

Now, with superman stopping every vibration at the big bang, it never happens and he simply waits for "the presence' to do what needs to be done. "Just listen" is the answer and as He is told to hold the sword and point it at the entropy field, letting the swords power flow through his mind and into the field. He then hears 'music' for lack of a better word and the energy makes the entropy field match this waveform. It is far too complex for even his mind to grasp, yet it becomes the vibrational pattern for the multiverse. When it is done, the sword's power is used up and it disintegrates.

A new multiverse with new rules. Earth Prime is a perfect copy of our earth, all the other DC comics are there, a gateway to the Marvel universe's dimension with their copy of the earlier DC multiverse. Even the simplistic Pre-crisis Earth is represented - for those who just can't live without that 1950's type storytelling. Even a universe where they know they are represented by a comic book. But it is perfectly clear - the comics DO NOT control the multiverse - they are just parallel. The comics will always tell the stories perfectly accurately from now on - but they don't control the outcomes. Neither do the universes control the comics. Perfectly parallel.

This is a seriously out there idea. Maybe in 15-20 years if and when DC reboots they can not have the FLash be at the centre of that change and use something like this, I'd be down for it. Although i don't even think kids today would like 50's type storytelling, they might go for the insane imagination though.

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Post zero hour power levels.

Ideally though,

Strength- Pushing the moon, possibly being able to bench that weight and more without Sun dip, which amps him. l'd be comfortable with his levels in all star before his strength tripled. (he was benching 200 quintillion tons with one hand with that power up, even not tripled that strength is insane)

Speed- Flying I think he should top out at light speed seeing as that's the universal speed limit(i know it's comics but still) & he doesn't have access to extra dimensional energies like the speed force and such. Unless an argument can be made for his flight power working like a warp drive which then could facilitate him moving ftl.

Heat vision - At full intensity should burn upto little more than surface of the sun temperatures comfortably hot enough to melt through anything on earth.

Not thought enough about other super sensory powers but comfortable with levels so far, no more no less.

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@jphulk26: *Thumbs up*

Apart from that clip, a good reference is Superman birthright, in the Smallville days where he's so intelligent, he comes across insane and weird and is therefore ostracized.

Yeah his motive is repeated a lot, it's basically to prove the 'oldest lie' that power can be innocent, formed by his existential crisis and world view shaped by his experiences.

Performance wise could he have done with less twitching? Sure, still liked a lot of what he did and imo and as you said he is one of the best written villains.

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Solid issue!

@lvenger said:

I was hoping Superman would get to see Lana as Superwoman and it was neat for Jurgens to touch upon what was happening in Superwoman. Acknowledging in universe continuity threads amongst other comics is a treat for continuity fans like myself. Although I'm still sceptical about the age difference between Pre Flashpoint Lois and New 52 Lois, I guess it has to be overlooked now Lois is going back to work at The Daily Planet. It shouldn't take away from Lois' motherly moments with Jon and keeping Lois solely as a housewife isn't Lois' style. Lastly, it's pretty obvious Jon beating Clark in a race is nothing game changing in terms of power levels. Clark wasn't seriously racing anyway and he was probably expressing surprise that Jon may have been faster than he was at Jon's age. Not to mention that Jon was running and Kryptonians move faster when flying. Plus adult Kryptonians tend to be more powerful than younger Kryptonians.

My one gripe with this book otherwise, really digging what Jurgens is doing. Felt the same with the acknowledgement of the events of Superwoman.

Really liked the interaction between Clark, Lois and Lana and Jon and Clark. (And Clark and Lana didn't start fighting! this really is DC comics! :P)

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.....According to SA, Superman is limitless and Doomsday has killed him....Ok.

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You can't compare who's more heroic.

The same way you can't compare who's more heroic between a fireman or a soldier and Cap or Superman. They're all doing the same job Cap and Superman just do more because they can.